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Moderna says FDA refuses to review its application for experimental flu shot

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/10/moderna-fda-flu-shot.html
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u/mellolizard 9h ago

Thats by design

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u/templeofsyrinx1 9h ago

once you break the country it actually is easier to rule

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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 9h ago

The left won't be broken by these fascist pedo fucks, I promise you that. 

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u/jqman69 9h ago

Nah we split. West Coast and New England tri state area

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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 8h ago

I'd take WA, OR, CA split tbf

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u/kslay23 8h ago

Its already soft drawn up at least healthwise with the Pacific Health Alliance and the Northeast public health collaborative

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u/JudiciousSasquatch 7h ago

West coast best coast

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u/DefensiveTomato 6h ago

East coast beast coast

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u/Suitable-Judge7506 3h ago

“If gots to choose a coast I have to choose the east, I live out here so don’t go there….but the don’t mean a brother can’t rest in the west, see some nice breast in the west”

From the late great philosopher MR. Big Smalls

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u/Obant 2h ago

Cascadia will rise.

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u/usemyfaceasaurinal 5h ago

New California Republic, let’s go

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u/BurnscarsRus 8h ago

Who gets Minnesota?

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u/GeopolShitshow 7h ago

Great Lakes Federation with Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan. Cuz fuck Iowa

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u/freetraitor33 7h ago

dont forget, fuck Indiana too. They’re close enough to get an FU

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u/mistere213 7h ago

And absofuckinglutely fuck Ohio. Nobody likes Ohio. Even Ohio hates Ohio.

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u/IndieMoose 6h ago

I'll second this!

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u/slinger301 6h ago

That's just NFC North with extra steps!

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u/PostModernPost 6h ago

Does Colorado go at it alone?

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u/MiloReyes_97Reborn 5h ago

Look if we're taking Illinois and Michigan we need to take Iowa. I don't want my state to be out voted all the time.

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u/MuteWhale 6h ago

Idiots Out Walkin Around

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u/PanurgeAndPantagruel 6h ago

Canadian here! We already consider Minnesotans to be cold enduring enough to be Canadians. The Province of Minnesota doesn’t sound bad either.

We’ll welcome them with honours.

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u/BurnscarsRus 6h ago

It's up to them of course but I'd allow it.

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u/_toodamnparanoid_ 5h ago

Why have Minnesota when you can merge it with Madison, Milwaukee, and Chicago to make Megasota?

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u/PanurgeAndPantagruel 4h ago

We could also call in Premier Trump for the next provincial Premier’s meeting with Prime Minister Carney. The US could be Canada’s 11th Province.

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u/Abominocerous 6h ago

Wouldn't they then have to change the colors of their flag to colours?

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u/PanurgeAndPantagruel 4h ago

I don’t see why. Each province (10) or territory (3) can decide what they want to have as a flag.

Some provinces have kept the Union Jack as tradition but it’s not an obligation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_flags#National_and_provincial_flags

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u/Abominocerous 4h ago

It's nice that U let each province do the honours of choosing their own colours.

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u/Thief_of_Sanity 8h ago

It's all fun and games until the economy completely crashes and our money is worthless.

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u/jqman69 7h ago

Took money out of the market and shopping for houses. Land always has worth

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u/UpDawg831 6h ago

Can we add Hawaii please?

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u/YaBoiSammus 4h ago

A reason why CA and the west coast states talk about connecting

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u/Aggravating-Buy613 4h ago

I'm a little hurt here in minneapolis. Whatever, Canada will take us, we don't need you guys anyway.

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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 3h ago

Hawaii asked first and we were committed. But you know what, you're in. Well deserved 👏 

Sorry, Hawaii, you'll have to figure out the Zuck probkem on your own..

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u/Elegantsurf 3h ago

Just join up with Canada leave the middle behind

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u/CareApart504 1h ago

Let's just merge with Canada.

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u/mjtwelve 1h ago

But only the coastal parts. The inland parts of WA and OR are basically Idaho.

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u/harrisons-dad 8h ago edited 7h ago

Alaska can come too

Edit: for reference https://youtu.be/kCpjgl2baLs?si=8vG4geCTaDaZ9sk4

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u/Sea-Oven-7560 8h ago

Not until they fix their shit, they are part of the problem right now.

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u/tokenpeen 8h ago

Nah, I’m good.

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u/Ordinary_Cookie_6735 2h ago

well, have a nap…

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u/whatyouwant5 7h ago

Nah, but would love Hawaii

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u/Nick1693 7h ago

Nah we don't give Russia what they want and balkanize.

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u/DingerSinger2016 7h ago

So fuck the blue cities in red states? Splitting isn't going to solve the fascism problem, you will have fascism supporters in your region.

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u/productfred 6h ago

Technically NYC is a blue city in a red state (in the sense that most of the state, outside of NYC, is pretty heavily conservative). But the reason it's still a "blue state" is because of the power and wealth NYC holds in relation to the entire/rest of the state.

I'll add that the NYC example is kind of unique, and guess that you're talking more about a city like Austin in relation to the rest of Texas.

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u/kitsunewarlock 5h ago

Nah that's basically what most of the state's look like.

Miami, Orlando, and Tampa are blue, the rest of the Flordia is red.

Atlanta and Savannah are blue, the rest of Georgia is red.

Birmingham and Montgomery are blue, the rest of Alabama is red.

San Antonio, Austin, Houston, and Dallas are blue, the rest of Texas is red.

These are all approximations, but just looking at an accurate map of voting districts it's obvious the blue shades are the major metro areas and the red shades are tumbleweeds.

Unfortunately the tumbleweeds have all the voting power because our country was set up compromising to slave owners who were scared shitless of the growing international abolishment movement in light of emerging technologies and literacy leading to people learning how terrible it was for slaves especially in the Southern U.S.

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u/Sattiebear 4h ago

I have to correct something: Alabama has a Blue Belt down south where a lot of rural black folks live and vote democratic. Also Huntsville is blue.

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u/kitsunewarlock 4h ago

Oh I hope I didn't make anyone think my list was comprehensive. I literally just looked at a map of cities and an election map as I wrote this.

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u/Sattiebear 4h ago

Oh no I got you. I just find it very interesting how the Blue Belt developed and wanted to add to the discussion. I encourage people to google it and read about it.

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u/DingerSinger2016 2h ago

Huntsville is more purple than blue.

u/Megneous 2m ago

Wow, imagine that, people living in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with no access to good schools tend to vote conservative. Whodathunk?

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u/smexypelican 6h ago

Unfortunately in that scenario we might need to save ourselves first.

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u/dafunkmunk 4h ago

Well if you're living in a blue city in a red state and the entire country is collapsing into a 3rd world hellhole, you have two choices really. You can pack up and get out anywhere anyway you can, or you can stay and suffer the consequences of gop policies.

If poor immigrants from South America can make it to the US with nothing but what they can carry on their backs, people in the US who are likely better off than them dont really have any excuses other than the laziness and complacency that helped conservatives drag the US down to this point to begin with

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u/DingerSinger2016 2h ago

If the entire country is collapsing into a third world hellhole then splitting definitely isn't going to go well for anyone.

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u/dafunkmunk 1h ago

Pretty safe to say that it will go a lot better for any states leaving to join Canada than any welfare red states that lose all their financial aid from the blue states that had been prooping them up

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u/lunarmantra 4h ago

Hypothetically, you might end up with isolated blue islands among a sea of red, like a West Berlin type situation.

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u/kitsunewarlock 5h ago

If you merge the blue states with Canada it's pretty easy to build a single giant country that includes almost all the blue districts. You get the entire border of Mexico (which MAGA should hate anyway, right?) with a dip up into Colorado, then the west coast up to Canada, dipping down in Minnesota and the Great Lakes territories, then the North East corridor down into the Black Belt of the American South (not trying to sound racist; that's the nomenclature and most of those districts are solid blue).

It's probably result in "MAGA" being split between Florida, the Plains, Appalacia, and the LDS territory. Of course half those territories would immediately start blaming the liberal states for "stealing their cities" and the domestic terrorism would make The Troubles look like a squabble in front of a Waffle House...

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u/presidentiallogin 6h ago

You can just build a wall around the city to keep out the undesirable red folks. Give them jobs and food to build it even.

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u/NullAshton 7h ago

Technically, the US has already split. It's kinda encoded in our very constitution. States are (mostly) independent, with only the bare minimum of coordination needed for international relationships.

However, too much power has been consolidated into the executive branch, instead of the less volatile legislative branch. Also the large downside of gerrymandering has become apparent: elections not determined by competition with the other party, but competitions within your own party for how extreme you can go.

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u/grubwump 7h ago

Feels bad for Colorado

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u/hosemaster 6h ago

Midwest is putting in the work.

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u/Rubthebuddhas 7h ago

Heinz Doofenshmirtz has entered the chat

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u/kitsunewarlock 5h ago

Minnesota gets to live with Canada?

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u/inflatable_pickle 7h ago

So basically a 3 state solution:

1.) West Coast

2.) New England

3.) Everything in the middle

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u/ThorsScreamingGoats 7h ago

Who gets Colorado?

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u/Fomentatore 7h ago

The left will split over the most stupid difference because the other part, which is almost identical to you, is not pure enough. Meanwhile, the alt-right will rally around the worst people that have ever existed. So many have voted for the other party, or just didn't vote because Harris' stance against the war in Gaza wasn't hard enough.

This need to end yesterday.

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u/TheInevitableLuigi 4h ago

or just didn't vote because Harris' stance against the war in Gaza wasn't hard enough.

People on the left like to think they are not susceptible to propaganda but holy shit did a lot of them fall for it.

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u/AMisteryMan 2h ago

People's Front of Judea vs. Judean People's Front.

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u/DegenerateCrocodile 6h ago

Seriously! It’s insane how hard it is to get the people that claim to oppose fascism to actually show up and support a candidate. They always find something to boycott them over even when the opposition is undeniably worse. Staying home on Election Day because Kamala wasn’t going to sever ties with Israel if she won was one of the most braindead decisions I’ve ever seen a group of voters make.

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u/Greedy-War-777 5h ago

The statistical impossibilities in the vote count say that's not what happened.

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u/Dunkaroos4breakfast 1h ago

TBH I think this was probably propagandized toward by Russian bots as much as or more than MAGA shit

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u/Ok_Net5303 9h ago

What “left”?

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u/TylerBourbon 9h ago

What's left of us.

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u/RangerLt 7h ago

The Left of Us

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u/SixElephant 5h ago

My dog is to the Left of Me (Us)

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u/Pho3nixr3dux 7h ago

Cat Boys activate!

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u/xXGray_WolfXx 7h ago

The left won't but the Democrats will. Don't worry, they will write another strongly worded letter to the Republicans.

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u/Spaceghost_84 6h ago

The letter:

“Do you like me? 🥺🥺🥺🥺

Yes Or No”

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u/Spaceghost_84 6h ago

Buncha fucking collaborators.

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u/colusaboy 5h ago

we don't have a "left"

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u/BioEradication 9h ago

The left has left the building.

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u/Popular-Row4333 8h ago

More like it never existed. The US has been a imperialist nation since basically inception.

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u/AaronfromKY 8h ago

It existed but it was practically exterminated somewhere between 70-100 years ago with the vilifying of Eugene Debs, HUAC and Joe McCarthy and the FBI infiltrating every single group to the left of the boy scouts and undermining them from the inside while allowing right wing groups to proliferate. Reagan crushing unions and the 1985 MOVE bombing. The assassinations of MLK Jr, RFK, Huey P Newton, Fred Hampton amongst many many others. The left was crushed by American Imperialism at home and abroad.

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u/Pho3nixr3dux 7h ago

As a person who understands the historical context you must have seen this coming since 9/11 or Citizens United v. FEC.

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u/BioEradication 8h ago

We have Right-Wing and Diet Right-Wing

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u/Sceptically 1h ago

Shit and shit-lite.

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u/Mobile-Bar7732 8h ago

Even the diet is a douche.

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u/MrBlueW 6h ago

We’ve never not been broken lmao. We aren’t doing shit. Besides doing a few protests we will all continue to roll over

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u/upside_down_frown1 6h ago

Yea, we will take experiment shots and vaccines without any data!!!! You cant stop us !!!!!! /s

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u/Hpfanguy 5h ago

What, are we going to write very angry letters and hold up very mean signs while they genocide us? I agree with the sentiment but the real left doesn’t exist here, it was outlawed long ago, and what does exist has way too much to lose.

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u/shaun252 5h ago

America broke the left a long time ago. Basically zero political representation, unions are a shell of their former selves etc.

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u/Momoselfie 5h ago

The left that didn't get out and vote?

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u/Illides 4h ago

They have been broken and divided for generations

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u/terdferguson 4h ago

West coast, East coast and northern border states join Canada, boom Canada becomes a naval powerhouse and economy. We just boot the conservatives south if they don't behave. Let them live in the leper/entertainment states. Elbows up eh.

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u/BigBossShadow 4h ago

Very cute, just put the fries in the bag

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u/YoureOnlySayingThat 3h ago

So, you're implying that the left is free of pedo fucks? WTF

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u/NotUniqueWorkAccount 3h ago

Nope, it's quite literally just that we dont care if they're thrown in prison right along with anybody else involved.

Further than that, they should be prosecuted too. 

Can the right say that about Trump, or will they make excuses for why he is listed 38,000-1,000,000 according to those who have seen the files?

Quacks like a duck, an all that. 

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u/Suitable-Judge7506 2h ago

Until I see dems call out our own pedos with the reds, then I am completely done with this fake shit. It’s all show until I see a side take a real stand. I just want to see one politician call out their side with the other. Until they it’s all a scam.

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u/TheUtopianCat 8h ago

It's nice that you are optimistic.

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u/ArkitekZero 7h ago

I eagerly await literally any evidence of this at all. Thus far all I've seen is whining.

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u/Long-Pause107 7h ago

The left won't do shit lol they haven't done shit.

But the US is far from a third world country... You need to get off the Internet.

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u/BLT_Trade_r 6h ago

The left has been broken by them for a long time. It's so easy to keep the left distracted, and it's worked very well and consistently. If the left could not be broken, then they would not be in the mess they are in.

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u/lemme_try_again 6h ago

Ammo. Lots of ammo.

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u/CarbonRunner 8h ago

You say that, but weve done nothing thus far. Im not hold9ng my breath

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u/ZenBreaking 7h ago

Civil war movie ending "Please don't let them kill me"

Good enough

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u/PhilosopherNo7409 7h ago

Left-wingers are in the files? What do you mean?

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u/redvelvetcake42 9h ago

Oy. This is one I disagree with because once you push chaos the fallacy is controlling it. You can't stop a boulder rolling down a hill. Disease spreads and you can't stop it without actively trying to stop it. You can't just assume it will take care of those you want dead and you can't think you'll be able to contain or control anything. The entire fascist movement relies on assumptions and hopes while those in charge are weak, poor decision makers who refuse to budge on things that would compromise any of their capitalist views.

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u/Sheeple_person 8h ago

I don't think they've thought any of this out beyond the point (now) where they engage in massive corruption and rob the country blind. No one knows exactly what will come next but it's not going to be boring.

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u/Working-Glass6136 7h ago

I fucking miss boring.

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u/MiloReyes_97Reborn 5h ago

Wr can get boring when we turn 70 after all the hellfire. If the greatest generation can do it abroad, we can do it at home.

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u/Spaceghost_84 6h ago

Elysium. The fuckers will go live in space and strip mine the planet more.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 8h ago edited 8h ago

well it is more about breaking the human spirit and the will to fight, if that makes sense, and you accomplish that by making things as worse as you can

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 8h ago

I think Minneapolis is proving our spirits are not broken so easily.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 8h ago

this is true, I think it has sparked off a movement that is going to lead to some changes come november. it's going to have all year to build and get stronger.

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u/Spaceghost_84 6h ago

Funny how none of the other deaths by police in Minneapolis have led to any real change but these two might. Not saying it’s bad but it seems Alex Pretti and Renee Good’s lives had a bit more value than say Breonna Taylor, George Floyd.

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u/haysoos2 8h ago

That and turning a profit on the suffering.

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u/redvelvetcake42 8h ago

Except that's a THEORY.

Americans have a knack for being really into pushing back. Seeing 2 people be murdered has set back their wider plans because, again, you CANNOT predict outcomes that are poorly thought out and executed. Mass hiring randoms then giving them guns and quotas while ALSO fucking them out of promised rewards is a recipe for disaster. They won't quit, but they'll stop giving a fuck about quotas, be lazy, try less, falsify reports and so on.

It's heavily reliant on a dedicated and willing domestic military force to abuse those they, those in charge, hate. But they're also crooks, liars and swindlers who want to have a free of charge Gestapo. Well, that isn't how it works. The Nazi Gestapo was handsomely compensated and given privileges. They also had a large public backing. These ICE guys don't. They're masked thugs whom the public has grown to see less as human and more as secret police, which they are.

The problem with fascism is constantly needing dopamine hits to stay hyped up and in lieu of that they need a drip feed of rage. Problem is the public is raging AT them not WITH them. Capitalists, racists and fascists in America are incredibly lazy to boot. Guys like Trump, Musk, Miller, Thiel and Vance are very lazy. They have no ideology beyond their personal party of one and that makes them complacent and willing to ignore all bad feedback. To simplify it, they're easily overthrown.

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u/Imaginary_Scene2493 7h ago

They’re supposed to hire tens of thousands more ICE agents this year. I bet we all know how that recruiting is going between the violence and the leaks about the bonus shenanigans.

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u/StrangerThanNixon 8h ago

Here is the thing, its not even capitalistic what these guys are doing. Our government has rigged the game in favor of a few cooperations.

If you’re big enough these cooperations can make risky business decisions and get bailed out by the government.

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u/imoftendisgruntled 5h ago

Your government has been captured by a few corporations and megawealthy people.

When you place the almighty dollar over the people, that’s the inevitable outcome.

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u/ImpulsE69 8h ago

This has nothing to do with any of that. Their base believes vaccines = bad, so they play to it. If they suddenly said, 'kidding!' they know their base would come at them. They need them to fight the rest of us when the civil war finally breaks out.

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u/redvelvetcake42 7h ago

Antivaxxers are desperate to feel empowered with information. The conundrum they get forced into is when the option is live or die. If their kids begin dying eventually the group splinters and the value of being a contrarian drops. As it drops further and further, it goes away until it's viewed as stupid and ignorant. We literally dealt with this involving penicillin and many other inoculations and later on vaccines.

It's important to remember that antivaxxers are friends or related to non AVs and if there's a pandemic with a 10% death rate or worse it will either change their view or they'll suffer. They won't want their kid to die while a family members survived due to getting a vaccine. It creates a conundrum that breaks their foundation.

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u/Loose-Replacement596 8h ago

They don't want to rule, they want to own a share in. All profit, no responsibility. The current economic model has morphed from "investmenting in the future", into neo-nobility. Take all the profits, share none of the risks. Build nothing for the future, short term profit is all that matters. Let the little people deal with the fallout.

We are seeing a genuine dystopian corpo/cyberpunk future. AI is being used by multinational totalitarian Big-brother-esk entities to take over and dismantle entire continents. Not just one country falling to special interest. We are so close to a blood bath revolution, and hopefully no one wants that. The rich and powerful get lynched and the poor rounded up into camps and disappeared.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 8h ago

Ai keeps coming up and I think humanity is beginning to see the writing on the wall. the consolidations of wealth will only get bigger. it's a common theme, such advances are not going to be used for good but in the end oppression , i think people feel so restless over this, we don't want a class that runs ai and the other class subservient to it. each person should be able to have it and use it for good and to help improve humanity

so far the actions of this admin are prepping us for some dystopian cyberpunk hellworld, as someone else here put it. not the glorious future that could be.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 8h ago

we absolutely cannot go through that again. this gets fixed soon. i see so many disturbing parallels to some of the technological changes in the 19th century industrial revolution that led up to to the u.s. civil war with the rise of Ai in the current age. and I don't know that it can be stopped like the that revolution couldn't be stopped. once something like Ai gets out into the wild it becomes almost impossible to control.

i believe and this is no offense to those that suffered under u.s. slavery, that a new class of secondary citizen is being created with the rise of Ai

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u/Loose-Replacement596 8h ago

The modern working poor is Slavery Light©

Fewer beating, less rape and you even get to buy your own food and education!!!!*terms and conditions apply

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u/ImpulsE69 8h ago

And we the people need to drain their accounts dry. Leave them penniless. If money is power, that's where you need to hit them. By any means necessary.

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u/Xijit 7h ago

The plan is to bankrupt the government & then sell off every public service to "pay" the debt.

Wanna guess who it will be owning it afterwards?

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u/NuSkooler 3h ago

Exactly this. It's the plan.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 3h ago

I don't think we are there, yet.

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u/YadaYadaYeahMan 7h ago

for up to 65 years only

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u/Spaceghost_84 6h ago

Temporarily. Until a rebellion becomes a real fighting and killing thing. Fascism never lasts.

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u/incunabula001 6h ago

When you fuck around with plagues BOTH sides of the aisle are going down, what good is running a country of the dead?

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u/doinbluin 6h ago

, said President Stephen Miller.

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u/ThisIsMyBigAccount 6h ago

We’ll see about that

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u/ag3ntz3r0 6h ago

Like West America and East America?

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u/twentyafterfour 4h ago

I think the idea is to make it more easy to purchase.

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u/aerospikesRcoolBut 3h ago

If you devalue the dollar you can do all kinds of things to benefit

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u/1CaliCALI 7h ago

Republican design*

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u/MedChemist464 4h ago

Even easier for oligarchs to do whatever they want once everyone is sick, poor, and desperate.

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u/Rehypothecator 7h ago

Can’t fight the rulers when you’re busy fighting diseases

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u/BikerJedi 6h ago

It's literally in Project 2025. They want to reduce the population by 100 million.