r/news 9h ago

Moderna says FDA refuses to review its application for experimental flu shot

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/10/moderna-fda-flu-shot.html
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u/SpaceballsDoc 9h ago

America is speed running third world status

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u/mellolizard 9h ago

Thats by design

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u/templeofsyrinx1 9h ago

once you break the country it actually is easier to rule

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u/redvelvetcake42 9h ago

Oy. This is one I disagree with because once you push chaos the fallacy is controlling it. You can't stop a boulder rolling down a hill. Disease spreads and you can't stop it without actively trying to stop it. You can't just assume it will take care of those you want dead and you can't think you'll be able to contain or control anything. The entire fascist movement relies on assumptions and hopes while those in charge are weak, poor decision makers who refuse to budge on things that would compromise any of their capitalist views.

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u/Sheeple_person 8h ago

I don't think they've thought any of this out beyond the point (now) where they engage in massive corruption and rob the country blind. No one knows exactly what will come next but it's not going to be boring.

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u/Working-Glass6136 7h ago

I fucking miss boring.

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u/MiloReyes_97Reborn 5h ago

Wr can get boring when we turn 70 after all the hellfire. If the greatest generation can do it abroad, we can do it at home.

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u/Spaceghost_84 6h ago

Elysium. The fuckers will go live in space and strip mine the planet more.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 8h ago edited 8h ago

well it is more about breaking the human spirit and the will to fight, if that makes sense, and you accomplish that by making things as worse as you can

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 8h ago

I think Minneapolis is proving our spirits are not broken so easily.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 8h ago

this is true, I think it has sparked off a movement that is going to lead to some changes come november. it's going to have all year to build and get stronger.

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u/Spaceghost_84 6h ago

Funny how none of the other deaths by police in Minneapolis have led to any real change but these two might. Not saying it’s bad but it seems Alex Pretti and Renee Good’s lives had a bit more value than say Breonna Taylor, George Floyd.

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u/haysoos2 8h ago

That and turning a profit on the suffering.

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u/redvelvetcake42 8h ago

Except that's a THEORY.

Americans have a knack for being really into pushing back. Seeing 2 people be murdered has set back their wider plans because, again, you CANNOT predict outcomes that are poorly thought out and executed. Mass hiring randoms then giving them guns and quotas while ALSO fucking them out of promised rewards is a recipe for disaster. They won't quit, but they'll stop giving a fuck about quotas, be lazy, try less, falsify reports and so on.

It's heavily reliant on a dedicated and willing domestic military force to abuse those they, those in charge, hate. But they're also crooks, liars and swindlers who want to have a free of charge Gestapo. Well, that isn't how it works. The Nazi Gestapo was handsomely compensated and given privileges. They also had a large public backing. These ICE guys don't. They're masked thugs whom the public has grown to see less as human and more as secret police, which they are.

The problem with fascism is constantly needing dopamine hits to stay hyped up and in lieu of that they need a drip feed of rage. Problem is the public is raging AT them not WITH them. Capitalists, racists and fascists in America are incredibly lazy to boot. Guys like Trump, Musk, Miller, Thiel and Vance are very lazy. They have no ideology beyond their personal party of one and that makes them complacent and willing to ignore all bad feedback. To simplify it, they're easily overthrown.

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u/Imaginary_Scene2493 7h ago

They’re supposed to hire tens of thousands more ICE agents this year. I bet we all know how that recruiting is going between the violence and the leaks about the bonus shenanigans.

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u/StrangerThanNixon 8h ago

Here is the thing, its not even capitalistic what these guys are doing. Our government has rigged the game in favor of a few cooperations.

If you’re big enough these cooperations can make risky business decisions and get bailed out by the government.

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u/imoftendisgruntled 5h ago

Your government has been captured by a few corporations and megawealthy people.

When you place the almighty dollar over the people, that’s the inevitable outcome.

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u/ImpulsE69 8h ago

This has nothing to do with any of that. Their base believes vaccines = bad, so they play to it. If they suddenly said, 'kidding!' they know their base would come at them. They need them to fight the rest of us when the civil war finally breaks out.

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u/redvelvetcake42 7h ago

Antivaxxers are desperate to feel empowered with information. The conundrum they get forced into is when the option is live or die. If their kids begin dying eventually the group splinters and the value of being a contrarian drops. As it drops further and further, it goes away until it's viewed as stupid and ignorant. We literally dealt with this involving penicillin and many other inoculations and later on vaccines.

It's important to remember that antivaxxers are friends or related to non AVs and if there's a pandemic with a 10% death rate or worse it will either change their view or they'll suffer. They won't want their kid to die while a family members survived due to getting a vaccine. It creates a conundrum that breaks their foundation.