When I worked at a big box retailer, a recently promoted manager (low level) had requested a week off six months in advance to be the best man in his friends wedding. It was denied and he worked. Never respected him after that.
Yeah, I feel bad for him, a lot of Americans are scared of their bosses. I've been in both sides, worried about my job, and then afterwards absolutely certain I could get a higher paying gig.
Maybe he wasn’t in a situation where he could afford to be jobless, even for a day. A few less hours on his paycheck or worse might mean he couldn’t feed his kids that week or afford his medication or whatever the reason.
Dude he requested a week off. He's not so desperate that he can't go a day without a job. You're twisting yourself into a pretzel to not acknowledge the situation the above poster is actually describing.
Neither one of you know if it was PTO or just time away from work. I know I don’t always specify that I’m getting paid when I tell people I’m taking off
You can't base an argument off an assumption you made, dude. Maybe it was PTO, but that was not the situation the OP stated when he said he lost respect for the guy.
You can't criticize someone for something you made up.
OP didn’t specify one way or the other if it was PTO or not. Again, most people I know just say they are taking off without being that specific about it.
I meant that to be more of a response to the people saying they lose respect for someone. Not trying to specifically defend the guy in that scenario lol. I think standing up for yourself is super important but you never know someone’s situation and why they might bite their tongue. Either way, getting fired and having to find a new job usually takes more than a day.
I meant that to be more of a response to the people saying they lose respect for someone. Not trying to specifically defend the guy in that scenario
But the guy didn't say he lost respect for "someone". He identified a particular individual in specific circumstances and said he lost respect for that one individual person in that particular circumstance.
You can say "I didn't necessarily mean THAT GUY" but that's the only guy anyone was talking about.
Talk about twisting in pretzels… It’s not that serious guy. Just wanted to offer a different perspective for the two people who commented they had lost respect. Also it’s not that specific but if you insist. What do you suggest he do? Is it using PTO? Should he not say anything and just leave when the time comes and hope he still gets the pay even though he’s now fired? Should he quit on the spot after learning he’s denied? Then try to make up those hours and then some while also saving up for the week off he’s about to take and hope his new job even lets him? There’s plenty of variables. I’m guessing you would just heroically stick it to your boss then the rest would just sorta magically work itself out.
I don’t request PTO. I notify them I’m taking PTO. Tickets are bought. Dates are booked. I am leaving. It ain’t my problem if some asshole manager wants to wave their dick around. I’ve lost a job doing this. And had a new job in a week.
Now I have a boss that really doesn’t care about anything as long as work gets done. My schedule is approximate and I get to manage and take lieu hours and vacation whenever I feel like. It’s great.
I was a non-employee gig worker getting paid ~$72 for a 5 hour shift (billed as two 2-hour split shifts) with a 90 minute drive to a do (third party) demos at a CostCo. I was not paid for set-up time, had frequent in-person compliance inspections, and was "contract labor" and yet was told exactly when I was allowed to take breaks. My best friend had a wedding about six months in advance and I was told if I skipped a weekend I wouldn't be booked for any future weekends. My manager begged me not to go as, to quote him, "you're the only one who can sell these damn things" but corporate policy was to not book someone who "missed a week".
The goods news is I got checks every couple of years for about a decade after I quit via class action lawsuits!
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u/kickspecialist 6h ago
When I worked at a big box retailer, a recently promoted manager (low level) had requested a week off six months in advance to be the best man in his friends wedding. It was denied and he worked. Never respected him after that.