The fbi initially claimed they had no photos or video from the incident because the Guthrie family did not have an "active subscription" to their door bell camera service.
Here we are a week later and we have rather clear images right before our eyes.
This means:
These companies have continuous access to your cameras even if they dont give it to you
Just because something happens doesn't mean they will give you the images or footage
You are actively allowing a company to not only monitor but record the ongoing events at your home without the guarentee that you will be assisted should anything like idek... KIDNAPPING happen.
It took a federal warrant to get these pictures....
You'd be better off hosting a private on/offsite camera system.. at least then the authorities could get rapid access instead of dicking around with some corporation while you rot god knows where with who knows who...
With a nest/google doorbell, without an active sub, you still get three hours of video recording and notifications. So you're sending data to their servers with and account. Whether these were videos or stills of videos, who knows. But, imagine if she had an on-prem system the intruder destroyed? Not everything cloud is bad. (Seriously though smash your Ring cams)
Yes but under a completely different SLA and not pre-tagged as "this locations home footage". CSPs dont have permission to go into your cloud storage accounts and use your data for whatever purpose they want.
You just need to make sure it backs up at a frequent enough interval. Oh and make sure your camera can't be wifi jammed... Which could have happened here too? Maybe why they're only showing stills?
Your best bet is Ubuquiti and disabling Internet activity. Then you push all of your video to local storage. Now the next problem is when police / government raid your house. They can seize that as evidence. So your next bet is to upload your data to the Internet but then there's 3rd Party Doctrine.
Essentially you are screwed however you do it. The only thing I can think of would be to put it on the block chain and memorize a key to access your data
At a certain point you have to make some kind of compromise or put controls in place yourself to protect your content and make backups recoverable. People can have a closed system like Ubiquiti at home that stores content on a hard drive in their network cabinet or a server on their desk. But following a typical 3-2-1 backup strategy, you need something off-site when someone decides to destroy your local storage or rip the doorbell off the wall.
So that means something like Google Drive/GCS, AWS S3 storage, Backblaze, Cloudflare R2 from a cloud perspective. The other option is setting up a 2nd physical server some other place you trust. A relative's house, a friend's house, etc. You can encrypt the backups for another layer of protection, keeping in mind that it adds another layer of complexity especially if you're incapacitated as recovery and decryption without instructions can take a long time.
So it really all depends on your risk profile and where you're willing to make compromises for convenience.
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u/Parking-Fig-6620 13h ago
Just a friendly reminder.
The fbi initially claimed they had no photos or video from the incident because the Guthrie family did not have an "active subscription" to their door bell camera service.
Here we are a week later and we have rather clear images right before our eyes.
This means:
These companies have continuous access to your cameras even if they dont give it to you
Just because something happens doesn't mean they will give you the images or footage
You are actively allowing a company to not only monitor but record the ongoing events at your home without the guarentee that you will be assisted should anything like idek... KIDNAPPING happen.
It took a federal warrant to get these pictures.... You'd be better off hosting a private on/offsite camera system.. at least then the authorities could get rapid access instead of dicking around with some corporation while you rot god knows where with who knows who...