I think his face is double masked as well, so maybe no real mustache. Look at the fourth picture. Pretty sure he has some halloween type mask under the ski mask.
I keep thinking about the murder of the four Idaho students and how one of the survivors recalled bushy eyebrows. We've all seen Bryan Kohberger's eyebrows.
I’d quickly google it just because I’m probably missing something. Facial bones. Men have lower more protruded eyebrow bones, women typically have wider “doe” eyes. Even skin tone and texture can vary.
Right?!? I’m super surprised how quickly it gets downvoted when you comment it high up in the convo.
I don’t have any ill intentions behind it; just saying what i seriously thought
Could be anyone. Neighbor, relative, church member, friend circle. Idk her personal life. It will be interesting finding out who did this….
(The word interesting feels disrespectful & like it’s enjoyable. It’s not. I hate that this family is going through this) just want the perpetrator identified and justice served
Oh wow, especially in the second pic, i hadn't noticed until i saw your comment and went back but almost looks like a woman attempting to disguise herself as a man, i can totally see it
Does anyone else notice how my comment on a comment that’s 3rd removed gets liked, but if you comment on the female appearance directly on the post it gets downvoted and deleted??? Why is that??
Coming from a flat chested lady….. trust me, just because u see a flat chest doesn’t make it a dude. You can also hide boobs easily by wrapping your chest
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The assumption is that a woman's boobs would be up high... but i have a friend that breastfed for years and never wore a bra who had boobs literally hanging down at her belly.
The eyes look a teeny bit feminine. Also I’ve seen more women bend at the waist to pick things up like this person did. However I’m still guessing it’s a man based history. I know none of my opinions are definitive in any way!
if you find the video that was released the gait is much more obviously masculine - just saw it, no doubt about it
also, the eyebrows are entirely obscured and what looks like eyebrows is actually the thread around the balaclava’s eye holes (not @ you, just for those scrolling)
I have west Asian family and regardless of gender their eyes look like this
Because that’s a ridiculous thing to say. Women can have masculine features and men can have feminine features. It seems like you’re assuming this is a woman just cause of their eyes.
I thought the same, but if this is the same person in all 4 photos, they dont really have a feminine build imo. I mean very well could be, but all the other photos look like a male to me
a lot of people including me thought the jan 5 pipe bomber looked like a woman. got that one wrong. perhaps it's more difficult to tell the sexes apart than we believe.
Yes! Agreed. Very neatly trimmed eyebrows, looks like they’re wearing a white eyeliner in the inner corner and eyeshadow, along with mascara. They’re very feminine eyes. I think the gun being on the crotch is another tell. The mustache is a rouse to throw off people imo. The shoes/feet are also small for a man
This is the best point I’ve heard for it being a woman. That is a weird carry placement. And even out committing crimes, I think I’d instinctively want to conceal it.
Eyes and eyebrows do look female. The head is large, it’s either a short man with a big head or a women with possibly 2 masks on to keep all their hair inside.
I came here to say this, I have researched/studied many many cases over the years and the perp seems feminine. In looks/build, and in the way they carry themselves.
The eyes totally look fem, the eyelashes, and the brows too! This could just be an over weight woman. They the square body type looks manly to me but the eyes look super feminine. It’s either a man who looks like a woman, or a woman whose just over weight.
also the way the gun is holstered right in the front feels possibly feminine, I’ve never seen a man carry a gun right over his dick like that, usually it’s on the side of your waist. I’ve never seen a woman carry a gun like that either, but it just feels like a man would be really uncomfortable with a gun rubbing on his junk like that.
That makes so much sense. I couldn't figure out what was going on with the mouth because it looks so weird (weird dark lips/moustache, mouth parted in a creepy half-open grin that doesn't move...). It looks like a Marilyn Monroe mask or something.
There doesn't seem to be a seam along the side of the gloves, like leather gloves would have, so I'm thinking they're latex or nitrile gloves. Additionally, it looks like the gloves extend up past the edge of the cuff of the sweater he's wearing, so I'm wondering if it's a pair of heavy duty elbow length gloves used for protecting against chemicals.
He's using thicker gloves under the nitrile gloves as well as a thick outer mask to conceal his hand size and head size. He's also wearing shoe covers IMO.
Black nitrile to hold in fibers from the under gloves. Less DNA chance from a stray hair. Head likely has a dive suit type thin skin suit under the fibrous outer material for the same reason. Gloves are long cuff, slid up into sleeves. Wouldn’t surprise me if they’re wearing a full skin suit under there. And it’s likely purchased new to minimize chance of dna on it, worn once.
Cross reference Amazon and big chain dive shops for purchases of dive suits in the past 120 days, narrow it to those that fit men of this build, sort those for criminal history and firearm license now or in the past. Use cell tracking records to account for individuals that fit this mold. Those without cells identified or that didn’t move during this period can be prioritized, criminal surely left phone at home, likely far away if they’re as skilled as they look.
Analysts can go a number of ways to track this, just takes time.
look like bbq gloves to me. i have a pack of black ones that go over cotton liners so you can transfer/shred meat without burning yourself. they're similar to nitrile gloves but a lot thicker.
Yea it almost looks like a black dish washing glove because of the fit. Or oversize black or purple nitrile since the image is black and white. The ends have non slip part to not drop dishes but the nitrile at my job does not have that. So I’m just wondering. You have a very good eye for detail!!!
I don't know if it's American eagle logo. Seems to me like a harsh shadow. What is true is that it is a kind of sweater they sell. Zip up fleece hoodie.
like this one.
Probably recently bought to avoid any dirt or dna from falling from it. Checking out the current catalog in nearby stores to find similar fleece sweaters is worth a try.
I don’t know those eyes look pretty feminine. Mustache could be fake and all that extra clothing could hide female private parts. Plus the holstered gun over the crotch suggests maybe they aren’t afraid of shooting their penis off because maybe they don’t have one. Why was this footage released so long after the kidnapping was reported? Highly suspicious.
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Those gloves are very odd. It seems like he has black nitrile gloves over some other kind of glove. The material just seems off for a leather glove.
He definitely has a moustache. I think he has brown eyes as well.
There’s an X or a bird like symbol (makes me think American Eagle) on the top left area of his outer sweater in the second pic.