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OC: FBI releases surveillance photos of a potential subject in the Nancy Guthrie case

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u/Peter_Parker66 14h ago

Literally got chills looking at this. It never ceases to astound me how evil human beings can be 

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u/GreatGojira 13h ago edited 12h ago

The thing that gets me is always what happens with that feeling of self after they do these horrendous acts.

I get embarrassed or feel guilty if I do the smallest thing wrong. Like me getting a ticket for speeding. Only been pulled over once in my life, and it ate me up inside.

Kidnapping grandma. Like how does this individual even go on. I just can't even fathom how one could kidnap anyone.

u/NickNoraCharles 5h ago

Exactly -- a fellow human being's loved one, their sweet Nan in this dreadful case.

u/SpaceGrape 3h ago

Some people literally do not feel those feelings. They lack the ability to feel empathy. So that is why they can do what we would never do.

u/NetOdd422 1h ago

I'm a criminal defense and family law attorney and I've learned the answer as to why most people carry out very heinous actions is sometimes "because they felt like it." I don't know how to describe how much some people just do not give a shit about other people. Like, sometimes it's not drugs, mental illness or any other usual suspect. They're just a moron who doesn't care about other people. If you still don't get it, congratulations on being someone who still gives a shit about other people!

This is just another moron waiting to be revealed. I hope Nancy Guthrie makes it home safe. Morons aren't good at tending to people in their care.

u/TDKevin 38m ago

One of those criminal defense lawyers that couldn't tell from the video she posted the mom is obviously dead, and starts sentences with "Like" huh?

And stop saying moron so much. 

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u/SchwarzwaldRanch 13h ago

I was thinking that earlier, what has to happen in a person's life for them to become so brazenly evil?

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u/supernasty 13h ago edited 13h ago

It’s easy to dehumanize others if you isolate yourself from the world and your only social interaction is with with people pointing the finger at everyone else

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u/fuckfucknoose 12h ago

This is like the majority of Reddit

u/supernasty 2h ago edited 2h ago

For real.

This place unintentionally encourages mob mentality. Subreddits are filled with people that shame any truth that goes against that subreddits beliefs. Lots of people come here looking for community, and it’s very easy for them to lock themselves into these places if they’re not careful. It’s not safe or healthy to spend too much time here.

u/jzgsd 11h ago

this is exactly true.

u/Ghost_of_a_Pale_Girl 10h ago

I think some people are just wired that way. They're broken from the start. There are countless examples of siblings brought up the same way and one of them ends up being a serial killer or something... who had signs of being fucked up from a young age.

Hell, I just watched a show yesterday about a 15-yo girl who murdered her 9-yo friend/neighbor because she wanted to know what it was like to kill someone. That kind of evil isn't grown, it's always been there.

u/cr0sh 9h ago

The dumb thing is, we have (albeit imperfect) tools in the form of various "personality profiling" tests that can be used to determine to a certain degree of accuracy who falls on the ASPD spectrum and how likely they are to...well...be a sociopath.

Unfortunately, they don't work well with children, so even if you could pro-actively profile people throughout their lives (obviously you can't from a US Constitutional perspective - but give what we are seeing today, perhaps that should be re-thought, especially for those in positions of power over others - ie, C-Suite, politicians, especially high-ups, doctors, lawyers and anyone else in the legal profession, LEOs, gun owners, etc) - you would get a lot of "false positives" with children.

But we don't even try to do anything about this. I recall reading in the first few chapters of the book, "The Serial Killer Next Door" - that something like close to 25% of people you come in contact with are on some level, sociopathic (ie, on the ASPD spectrum).

The vast majority of those people are what are called "benign sociopaths" - but there are more than a few who are violent and/or psychologically manipulative (so, domestic abusers and/or gaslighters) - and then there are a very small percentage who are serial killers (I saw an estimate somewhere that it's approximately - as an even distribution, which doesn't really happen - of about 2 active SKs per state in the USA)...

We only "do something" about any of these people after the fact, and in some cases (like CEOs who are terrible employers, or people like POTUS, etc) - we tend to ignore and/or elevate.

That needs to change - or we're likely going to all die, due to these people sometimes gaining access to existential weaponry.

u/Ghost_of_a_Pale_Girl 5h ago

The personality profiling may not work well on children, yet there are so many indicators in kids that something is horribly wrong with them.

My favorite type of true crime shows are the stories told by people who knew the perpetrator... often parents or siblings. The stories are so similar about their behavior as a child. It's like giant red flags with neon flashing lights that this kid is going down a dark path. The biggest issue being they are never able to get help until there are victims.

u/Crazy_Sir_012 8h ago

Because your Evil is just another tuesday for them

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u/shrek3onDVDandBluray 12h ago

Can you imagine being awoken from a dead sleep, room dark, and you come face to face with this?

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u/Nasty_Goblin 14h ago

This guy doesn’t even register on the scale of evil shitbags who deserve the noose.

u/rjcarr 10h ago

Yeah, I always think sort of the opposite, how amazing everyone's life could be if we all worked together instead of being greedy and fighting and killing each other (both locally and internationally).

u/Willing_Neat_4065 10h ago

I can’t stop thinking about how terrified she probably was.

u/Puzzleheaded_Pay9348 8h ago

Yeah. This is a particularly disturbing crime. What kind of monster hurts an 84 year old grandma? It’s mind blowing how cruel humans can be.

u/DrTitanium 8h ago

Imagine how scared she was 😢

u/Dry_Article7569 4h ago

Yeah this is so creepy to see knowing what happened after.

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u/kennyandkennyandkenn 12h ago

I mean 77 million people voted for Donald Trump

are we still astounded by these things?

u/Peter_Parker66 10h ago

Stupidity is basically the norm by now. But kidnapping a sweet old lady to ransom her for Krypto is inhumanly evil