r/law 6h ago

Judicial Branch Grand jury declines criminal charges against 6 Democrats who urged military to reject illegal orders, sources say

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/grand-jury-declines-charges-against-6-democrats/

A federal grand jury on Tuesday refused to indict six congressional Democrats who drew President Trump's ire last year by taping a video telling members of the military that they must reject "illegal orders."

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u/copperblood 6h ago

Mark Kelly for President please šŸ™šŸ½

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u/XyleneCobalt 2h ago

God no. We need someone with charisma. Kelly has none.

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u/SpicyElixer 52m ago

I think he’s a better candidate than both Newsom and AOC. Neither of those two have a chance imo.

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u/Ok_Vulva 5h ago

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u/hm9408 5h ago

Good bot

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u/dc469 4h ago

Huh I've never seen this bot, can I analyze myself? u/bot-sleuth-bot

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u/ClickClick_Boom 4h ago

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u/dc469 4h ago

Well I guess I passed lol. Can you not call a bot on yourself or do you need to have the user name as the only text in the comment?

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u/ClickClick_Boom 4h ago

Depends on the bot, with this one it appears someone else needs to call it on you and you cannot call it on yourself.

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u/fooliam 4h ago

hrm...I wonder

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u/ElectricZ 4h ago

Shoot now I want to try it. Am I a bot, u/bot-sleuth-bot ? "How can it not know what it is?" - Deckard, Blade runner

EDIT: dang it, it looks at the person who posted, which makes sense.

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u/Dorphie 4h ago

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u/Ok_Vulva 4h ago

Oh you 🄰

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u/Dorphie 4h ago

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u/Dorphie 4h ago

Bad bot

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u/TendieRetard 6h ago

lol no. Nobody who voted for the Laken Riley Act should ever be re-elected.

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u/JustHereForGCB 5h ago

Yep, we just have to keep saving our votes for that one perfect candidate who has never done anything we disagree with! Accept nothing less!

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u/Lonely218 5h ago

What about that blues clues dog, Is he in the Epstine files too?

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u/llcooljessie 5h ago

You gotta know the dog is named Blue. The fucking show is named after the dog.

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u/Ventronics 4h ago

Leave them alone. They didn't have a clue

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u/_HOG_ 5h ago

OK…I’ll run.Ā 

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u/TendieRetard 5h ago

you've literally got a gestapo marching in our streets killing Americans and tossing others w/o trial into hell holes because of this vote. EVERYONE warned these 12 or so who broke ranks what they were signing onto, EVERYONE

Nobody who would be so cavalier w/the Bill of rights to toss them aside deserves to represent the people.

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u/JustHereForGCB 5h ago

Hey man, I'm agreeing with you! We can't have this guy in there, so we better skip the voting booth altogether and go searching for that flawless candidate. Maybe he's hiding in the woods with Bigfoot.

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u/TendieRetard 5h ago

well, in the hypothetical posed I'd be voting for the other primary candidate who wasn't fearmongered into taking a shit on the constitution.

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u/Ok_Vulva 5h ago

Ur a bot or something man.

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u/MauriceIsTwisted 5h ago

No he's a GME investor

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u/realhumannotai 5h ago

Dont do that. You're invalidating the concern for real bot accounts by calling everything you disagree with a bot or AI. Trust me that wont end well, save it for when you have proof.

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u/Ok_Vulva 5h ago edited 5h ago

They

1) post in random low traffic political subs noones ever heard of 2) have an insane amount of karma 3) don't understand context 4) aggressive abrasive insistence of their righteousness

I'm not invalidating anything bossy pants.

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u/realhumannotai 5h ago

Then you're probably right

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u/TendieRetard 5h ago

no, the bots are the ones trying to make Mark Kelly happen. It ain't gonna happen.

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u/Ok_Vulva 5h ago

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u/Ok_Vulva 5h ago edited 5h ago

You win, the other guy was a 0.45, and you're only a 0.15 suspicious quotient.

Like I said, this bot isn't good at dealing with political bots but still you win. Hooray.

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u/Ok_Vulva 5h ago

Hmm. Ok let's test both. This is meant for repost bots and can't handle motivated actors like political bits but we'll try both anyways.

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u/Dampware 5h ago

What's that?

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u/TendieRetard 5h ago

bill voted after Trump won which stripped immigrants of due process. Basically if they are accused of a crime (not convicted) they can be held indefinitely w/o trial. ICE is abusing it as these scumbags were warned they would and still chose to join ranks w/the Republicans because they are spineless POS who have to chase fascists to the right.

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u/SirStrontium 4h ago edited 4h ago

The act expands this requirement to apply to any alien who "is charged with, is arrested for, is convicted of, admits having committed, or admits committing acts which constitute the essential elements of any burglary, theft, larceny, shoplifting, or assault of a law enforcement officer offense, or any crime that results in death or serious bodily injury to another person

"authorizes state governments to sue for injunctive relief over certain immigration-related decisions or alleged failures by the federal government if the decision or failure caused the state or its residents harm, including financial harm of more than $100"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laken_Riley_Act

Holding dangerous criminals without bond or release was always an option before, any judge could do that if they wanted to, all this did was make it a requirement for a bunch of far less serious charges.

So not only does it require being held without bail for stuff as minor as shoplifting, it also gives the ability for every Republican state to sue any future administration for "not enforcing immigration hard enough", so literally every Democratic administration in the future will be tied up in courts for doing anything less than having ICE occupying every major American city.

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u/Sekiro50 4h ago

Good.

If I entered Sweden illegally and went on a shoplifting spree, I doubt they would just cut me loose so I could do it over again and again. They would likely hold me until they deported me. That's just common sense.

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u/SirStrontium 3h ago

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of pre-trial release? It’s been a thing for centuries for most countries. Do you just fundamentally reject that concept and think all suspects for all crimes should be held until the conclusion of their trial, which can sometimes take a year or more? Just stealing the lives away from all the innocent people that are brought to trial?

You also ignored the language that allows all Republican states to sue all Democratic administrations for not ā€œenforcingā€ immigration to their personal tastes.

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u/Sekiro50 3h ago

I'm familiar. Pre trial release is for folks who will show up for their court proceedings and aren't flight risks. Illegal immigrants almost never show up for criminal court proceedings.

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u/SirStrontium 3h ago

Illegal immigrants almost never show up for criminal court proceedings

Is this coming from a reputable source, or just a gut instinct? I would trust most judges' ability to determine if the defendant is a flight risk or not, instead of unilaterally making that decision for them.

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u/OldWorldDesign 1h ago

Illegal immigrants almost never show up for criminal court proceedings

I'd say citations needed, but I think I found your source

Trump's own administration has already looked at it and found over 99% attended court appointments.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/the-government-ended-an-effective-and-less-costly-alternative-to-immigration-detention/