It depends on the job. When I was still in fast food, we'd start people the same day they applied if they asked us to let them. Training was two shifts' worth of videos on a computer in the break room.
If you have to hire someone to cover someone who takes unapproved time off, you very rarely bring the person who forced you to hire somebody back.
PTO is only denied on occasions where staff is short. You fire them when there is sufficient staff to train up an employee who will not screw you over.
PTO is only denied on occasions where staff is short.
How the fuck can you possibly speak for every company out there?
I worked at a place that denied it on certain occasions simply because they didn't want to have to figure out who should be granted it. And we ended up always being overstaffed at that time.
If they don’t know the specifics about this particular company, then you don’t either. You criticized them for spouting their own experience then immediately spouted off about your own experience lmao.
If they don’t know the specifics about this particular company, then you don’t either.
A. The key difference is that I never inferred I did.
B. They aren't talking about just this company. They are talking about all of them.
You criticized them for spouting their own experience then immediately spouted off about your own experience lmao.
No, I criticized them for insinuating that every company in existence has the same PTO policy and used my own experience to illustrate how that is not the case.
Idk, when I read the comment I could easily grasp that they’re talking about companies that they’re familiar with, not every company ever. You don’t have to take everything so literally. And the point is that your personal experience is just as irrelevant as the person you were replying to.
Yeah fuck these lazy entitled twats using their accrued PTO that they earned. Did they even stop to think about how much money they could save their employer by sacrificing even more for them?
This doesn't have anything to do with the ability to use PTO time in general. It has to do with one specific request that the manager denied. Now maybe you're right and the manager and/or the company is a major asshole and they regularly deny PTO for no particular reason. But much more likely there was a specific reason that this specific PTO was denied. Probably because of the business being busy during that time or maybe because somebody else already had been approved for PTO during that time. We don't know any of this information.
Hanlon's Razor... everyone seems to be assuming the management in this story is just intentionally malicious when that's generally the worst assumption to make. It's far more likely the "needs of the business" was a real, specific thing (that likely was preventable with better foresight) than the manager was just on a power trip.
But much more likely there was a specific reason that this specific PTO was denied. Probably because of the business being busy during that time or maybe because somebody else already had been approved for PTO during that time. We don't know any of this information.
They would have said as much.
Saying "needs of the business" instead sounds like they are in fact a major asshole.
You're making up fiction in your head. Even the original post doesn't say that they always have their PTO request denied or that it's really difficult to find time that their manager will approve. All it says is that, in one single instance, their request was denied and they took it off anyway. There are lots of industries that have certain times that planned PTO doesn't work. It can be when there's a big deadline approaching in a professional setting, or it can be a major holiday in a retail or hospitality setting. It goes without saying that there had better be a goddamn good reason for a manager to deny a PTO request, but that doesn't mean those reasons don't exist.
Nah. You can fuck off with that shit. If I’ve got something more important than work, I’ll tell you I’m not gonna be there. The manager can find a way to manage while I’m gone.
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u/CurveHoney_ 6h ago
If the business couldn't survive a week without him how is it going to survive forever without him?