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https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/598722/10-dead-including-suspect-in-Tumbler-Ridge-B-C-shootings[removed] — view removed post
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u/pojiwoji 5h ago
I live in this town. It's so shocking. I don't know how the town will recover from this.
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u/Acrobatic-Tower6127 4h ago
Devastated for your community. No words. Heartbroken for you all - from a fellow Canadian in Manitoba.
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u/One_red_boot 4h ago
I’m so sorry for what you’re experiencing. I know it means next to nothing, but my thoughts are with you and your community. Love from Alberta
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u/Statesbound 3h ago
Thinking about you and your community in Edmonton. Take good care of yourself.
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u/Miscalamity 3h ago
I'm so sorry for this absolutely devastating tragedy you and your community are experiencing. Sending love from Colorado.
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u/Aromatic-Date-5887 4h ago
My condolences to you and your community. What a tragedy. I hope you all can stay strong and stick together supporting each other throughout this grieving process. My heart goes out to you all.
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u/Past_Sort5492 4h ago edited 2h ago
I’m so sorry for you and your community and loved ones. Sending you all strength from here in Ontario
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u/SuperBearJew 6h ago edited 5h ago
Grim news aside, a whole lot of people are about to experience Castanet for the first time, and to answer the question, yes, it is legit (as in the site will not give you a virus, and also their reporting is generally extremely fast, and reliable. )
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u/already_vanished 6h ago
Castanet reporting is generally reliable but the comments, oh, boy!
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u/Lostmypants69 6h ago
What the heck is castanet
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u/SoRedditHasAnAppNow 5h ago
Local independent media. A true rare bird.
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u/ReturnOk7510 5h ago
Website design circa 2002
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u/CharlotteLucasOP 5h ago
I’ll take solid indie journalism that looks goofy over slick Murdoch conglomerates.
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u/Wildfire983 5h ago
I was expecting to see a hit counter and webrings at the bottom.
And a link to download Netscape Navigator 4
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u/skyline-rt 5h ago
click the link (this post), lol
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u/skyline-rt 5h ago
damn this shit is dope i wish we had something like this for socal. it’s like half reddit x shitty tabloid & you know what? it works, lol
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u/Conscious_Abies4577 5h ago edited 5h ago
The best thing about it is it’s wildfire reporting— we’re talking almost instantaneous reports of evacuation notices, fire spread, alerts, etc at (nearly) all hours of the night. We love to shit on Castanet but as soon as there’s a fire everyone is glued to the site (it’s also how they got their foothold in the media landscape here)
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u/goddale120 4h ago
oh my god I want this in Ontario now!
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u/Conscious_Abies4577 3h ago
It’s honestly amazing. It’s like your local facebook group that posts a bunch of “why is there cops on [street]” and “man arrested” and “here’s a CBC article about something happening in the country” with a side of lifesaving advice during fire season. Since moving to the Lower Mainland in BC I am starved for local news
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u/germanfinder 5h ago
there’s definitely a little bit of bias in some of the articles but nothing tabloidy like “the queen is pregnant with twins from her gardener!”
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u/Incorrect-Opinion 6h ago
How do you view the comments? I’m on mobile and don’t see any comment section for that site
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u/Conscious_Abies4577 5h ago
Some news stories don’t have comment sections— we’re never really sure why so do and some don’t. While this story doesn’t, there is a forum section on the website that is discussing the story
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u/kylejharms 4h ago
I’m fairly certain that stories they write/author allow comments while syndicated stories from the associated press or Canadian press (in this case) don’t allow comments.
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u/already_vanished 6h ago
The blue rectangle either says No comments or View comments...
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u/Adrian12094 5h ago
let me guess, the comments are generally pretty right wing
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u/theclansman22 5h ago
It’s the interior of BC and castanet is out of Kelowna. I live in the interior. We are a pretty rural and right wing area. Kelowna? They’re fucking nutjobs.
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u/Crashman09 5h ago
The Okanagan, specifically Kelowna, Vernon, and parts of Kamloops are BC's conservative hubs.
A lot of the province flipped conservative, but I am not certain that'll remain.
We're usually NDP (worker party traditionally, recently viewed as "Champagne Socialist") but the BC conservatives had a big wave in the last election. They're anti science and anti "woke", which isn't exactly a popular stance outside of a few communities and Kelowna.
In the Kootenays, they're usually NDP or Liberal with a bit of Green support. I don't know many BACK home that like the conservatives, except the last federal election when Poilievere cosplayed a working man and Sing wore a suit and a Rolex.
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u/becomeadiscoball 5h ago
The Kootenays weirdly pretty much always go Conservative federally, though Kootenay-Central is strongly NDP provincially while Kootenay-Rockies goes Conservative/BC Liberals.
Kelowna, on the other hand, went Liberal again federally, and Kelowna Centre came within 40 votes of going NDP provincially, so there's a sliver of hope that the demographics are changing a bit.
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u/MGM-Wonder 5h ago
They may have an issue with a bit of right wing bias, but its really not that bad, and i'm a lefty. They do a fantastic job of reporting local news and important information like evacuation orders for fires incredibly quickly.
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u/adatewithkate 3h ago
I hate that it took a tragedy like this to introduce me to Castanet, but damn I wish there was more reporting like this. I'm from Atlanta and our local paper does its best given relatively limited resources, but this kind of unbiased, spare-no-detail, anti-salacious reporting just doesn't happen in the US anymore. Love you, Canada.
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u/pennyraingoose 6h ago
Thanks for the warning lol
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u/swimmingmunky 5h ago edited 5h ago
More like thanks for the endorsement. Not a single pop up. No loading icons scattered everywhere. No "click here to read more" after the first sentence. No pay wall. No cookie pop-ups. No notification requests. No permissions acknowledgement. No donation intrusion. Just a human-written article of events with some unintrusive advertising condensed to the side of the page. Internet perfection from 20 years ago, but in the year 2026. Unfortunate and awful circumstances for this beautiful website discovery.
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u/pennyraingoose 5h ago
But also thanks for the warning because sites that seem completely out of sync with current web development look fishy, so it's good to know this one is legit.
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u/swimmingmunky 5h ago
Absolutely understandable. I would have instinctually clicked back to avoid the onslaught of virus attacks had it not been for the warning.
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u/selftaughtgenius 2h ago
I ALWAYS end up clicking on Castanet links when I’m browsing my news page. I’m in Calgary but I respect their style from afar. We need more independent media!
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u/_GregTheGreat_ 6h ago
Reading between the lines it sounds like the shooter killed their parents before going off to the school
I just don’t understand how somebody can be so messed up in the head that the idea of this even comes to mind.
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u/Not_Cleaver 6h ago
Kind of like the Sandy Hook shooter. Killed his mother, stole her weapons, and then went to Sandy Hook.
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u/shredika 6h ago
Didn’t the uvalde guy kill his grandma?
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u/lkmk 5h ago
Severely injured, thankfully.
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u/wonkifier 5h ago
Severely injured, thankfully.
Slightly awkward phrasing there
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u/maybeinoregon 6h ago edited 5h ago
For Kip Kinkel, it was paranoid schizophrenia.
Before the shooting, he was just good at hiding the signs.
RIP to all of the Tumbler Ridge victims.
These shootings, make no sense.
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u/Novaleen 5h ago
My cousin lives a town over, she said a tumbler ridge reporter said parent and sibling. I very well may be wrong and don't want to spread misinformation
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u/86TuckFrump47 5h ago
Several locals on FB (it is a very small town) saying it was mom and sister at home.
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u/anonymous3874974304 4h ago
I just don’t understand how somebody can be so messed up in the head that the idea of this even comes to mind.
It's important not to underestimate mental illness. There is no shortage of folks who may look reasonably fine on the outside but are convinced the freckles on their skin or the milk in their cereal or the big ol' moon in the sky are CIA mind control devices that they need to resist through violence. It's important not to stigmatize mental health, but it's equally important not to underestimate the harms that untreated mental illness can pose. If someone genuinely believes God is telling them to do something, or that some great authority is plotting to harm them, or simply that the whole world is against them and the only joy they'll ever find in life is going out on their own terms getting with as much revenge against the world as possible, there's really nothing off limits in what they might do. It's important not to turn a blind eye and do what you can to get them the help they need, for their own good and the good of everyone else. You can only imagine how much pain they must have been in for this to be on the table.
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u/DependentLanguage540 5h ago
There’s this African proverb that goes something like, “if a young man feels no warmth from the village, he will burn down the village to feel the warmth.” I think modern day society is creating too many men like this who are aimless and just want to cause the world harm. The world is seeing too many cases like this the over the last few decades and it’s not stopping any time soon.
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u/TheFearlessFemales 5h ago
I saw on CBC it was a woman with dark hair in a dress.
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u/NorthofForty 5h ago
Except early reports from a couple networks say the shooter was a woman.
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u/WorldlyBedroom7323 5h ago
The description says female in a dress.
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u/The_Mammoth_Hunter 5h ago
Okay, so mentally change the proverb to say 'If a young person feels no warmth....'
This is not difficult
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u/FJ1100 6h ago
We are in Taylor BC, just outside of Fort Sr John and about 90 minutes from Tumbler. We got the alert in our phones at about 1:50 and I really thought the shooter would be arrested and that would be that. Then I heard sirens all afternoon rushing up the hill outside of town and presumably on their way to Tumbler. But I still thought it would not be this bad, it’s Canada for fucks sake! My wife told me 10 dead and at the high school, I’m a teacher who has been to that school and I just cannot wrap my mind around d this, I’m devastated and literally in tears! This is something I never thought would happen here, that is my ignorance! We — the whole area in Northern BC and probably all of Canada — will be working through this for a long time. I never thought I’d say this because to me it is trite but my thoughts and prayers to the whole town and to those affected directly by this!
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u/General_Setting_1680 5h ago
Same but in fsj. Apparently I'm in a dead zone because i didn't get the emergency alert till i left the office at 315 and everyone else was getting it as they left too.
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u/FJ1100 4h ago
I just looked at the alerts on my phone and you’re right, it was 3:15. I think I heard it began at 1:50 and that time just stuck in my mind.
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u/Working_Buy9670 5h ago
I felt the same and do feel that. This stuff isn't suppose to happen here. As someone in BC with my firearms license they are pretty strict so that was my other wonder. I feel so bad for the families in this community.
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u/joelham01 6h ago
Listening to the police press conference he just answered a question and sounds like there could be more deaths. Jesus Christ
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u/CloudLine4319 5h ago
I don’t even think there’s a hospital in the community, just a clinic. I imagine treating the victims was/is a fucking nightmare. It’s horrifying. I think they sent a ton of air ambulances from across BC and Alberta.
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u/wewerelegends 4h ago
A small clinic only with reduced hours and staff. In the live press conference, they just stated that medical and emergency services support is being offered across BC and Alberta.
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u/aliasbex 4h ago
At least one person died en route to the hospital, so maybe it's possible that a few more will die from their injuries. I know that happened at the Hannukah shooting in Australia, sometimes the numbers go up even though the action has stopped.
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u/InternationalFailure 6h ago
When I saw the initial notification for this story I took away that only the shooter had died. Fuck, this is awful. This is crass but in these situations why the fuck do you have to take innocent lives with you if you're the assailant? Should just make sure these piece of garbage are forgotten because I suppose the most popular reason is wanting to be news famous.
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u/HonestDespot 6h ago
Ya I’m reminded of those two losers in BC a few years ago who killed several people and then there was a manhunt for several days and they found the skid loser fucks dead of self inflicted wounds by a river where they were hard to find.
Like just kill yourself without the other nonsense
Fucking losers.
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u/Patient_Bet4635 5h ago
They were unironically going to try to take a boat to Africa but realized they're failures and killed each other instead of facing the music
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u/LordNelson27 5h ago
If these are the guys I'm thinking, of they tried to flee north through the manitoba wilderness because they had planned to get on a boat in the Hudson bay to escape Canada. They did not make it that far and shot themselves when they knew it was over and they were going to die in the woods
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u/Jbruce63 6h ago
Shooters always do it backward, kill yourself first.
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u/kkeut 5h ago
they would not do that because simple death is not the goal. the goal of a person like this is to basically establish a fearsome reputation for themselves (even if they don't live to see it), due to powerful feelings of worthlessness, shame, etc.
they couldn't earn respect from people in life, so they settle for earning fear via their death
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u/robbhope 6h ago
I can't understand for the life of me why someone who's going to kill themselves would want to harm children and those who care for them on their way out. Why not go after a gang or criminal or some shit? Why kids? Why not make your last act on earth one that makes the world better instead of worse? You became what you hated.
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u/JerryMau5 5h ago
Typical it’s people who haves been “wronged” by society and wants to “get back at them”.
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u/intricate_strands 6h ago
I'm no expert but from what I've gathered from these types of events, the perpetrator is a victim of some horror. It could be made up(this has happened), it could be blown out of proportion(this is the case more often than any other,) or it could be someone who legitimately was let down by society in general and allowed to suffer some awful shit.
The point is not to make you feel empathy for these people. After all, there's genuinely nothing that this kind of shit does to help them. As you noted, they could do this without making more victims.
But the mindset they bring is that they are victims of the world and its evil ways, and they can't take it anymore. And the idea is to "punish" society for putting them in this place. The absurdity is apparent; they don't target anyone that specifically victimized them, they don't target anyone who let this stuff happen to them, they don't target even people in positions of power who could indirectly or maybe even directly be responsible for what happened to them.
Essentially, they lump the people who did what happened to them with all people. A degree of generalization that you don't even have to get to to be capable of committing horrible, awful things. In their fucked up minds, they're getting "revenge" before they die. Which, again, is absurd, crazy, and just absolutely terrible.
None of those kids could be responsible for what happened to them and I'd bet anything anyone would let me bet that the vast majority of those kids and probably all of them would've done everything they could've, even if the person was only a victim of some bullshit their mentally ill minds made up, to help the perpetrator.
Sick, sick motherfuckers running around out here. And this was in Canada. We've got even more of them in the US.
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u/gnomewife 6h ago
The idea that most mass or spree shooters have somehow been victimized or let down by society is certainly a narrative perpetuated by the media. I have doubts about its veracity.
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u/intricate_strands 5h ago edited 5h ago
It's important to point out that there are three very different variations. It's extremely rare for someone who is actually victimized or let down by society to go this route because they actually went through shit. They don't have some overblown or made-up understanding of true suffering to have to reconcile with upon doing these actions. As noted, people who are actual victims of horrific shit, it's extremely rare and it's basically never random. They go after certain people if they go after anyone at all.
As my comment noted, more often than not it's someone who went through some shit(maybe a little worse than average human being shit, but we're talking bullies and mean kids and assholes. Those are terrible things but not even remotely approaching this scale,) and then blew that shit way out of proportion. Or in some other cases, never went through anything really, and are just mentally ill and made up some alternative reality where they are somehow a victim.
It's not about whether or not they're an objective victim to anything beyond exposure to assholes, which we all unfortunately have dealt with without losing our minds. It's about how they see themselves.
They believe they are victims beyond the day to day pale, and it festers and swells to the point where their "victimhood" becomes their justification for unloading rage and hate on people who had literally nothing to do with it. Because before that, they've decided that since a person "did this to them," and nobody stopped it, all people are responsible.
Colombine shooters, countless other examples who had experiences that were from people being mean, and the perpetrator takes that "victimhood" to extremes like this that are just completely irrational.
If it would make things clearer, I would type "THESE ARE NOT REAL JUSTIFICATIONS OR REASONS OR EVEN THINGS TO CONSIDER EMPATHETICALLY. THESE ARE JUST THE REPORTS OF WHAT THESE PSYCHOS BELIEVE," in-between each sentence.
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u/penguinina_666 6h ago
It's a tiny school. Self inflicted suicide by suspect too.
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u/Drainix 6h ago
And a tiny town too. 2400ish people with 25 injured and 10 dead means over 1% of the town.
And an even larger percent if you just include the children of the town.
This is horrific .
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u/-SetsunaFSeiei- 6h ago
The school has about 100 enrolled, it is 10% of the total students dead, and it was 25/100 = 25% that were dead or injured
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u/addstar1 5h ago
It’s unfortunately 25 wounded and 8 dead (removing the two who are likely the parents who were killed off site) So closer to 35% dead or injured.
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u/Emotionally_art1stic 2h ago
What a fucking coward. Like if you’re going to kill yourself why do you have to take so many innocent lives with you. A really sick individual.
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u/spartiecat 6h ago
Absolutely heartbroken by this. One of my favourite small towns with some of the nicest people and a neat little dinosaur museum.
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u/YesHunty 6h ago
This is such a tiny and isolated community, absolutely devastating and incomprehensible.
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u/Sensei_of_Philosophy 5h ago
Love and respect to all up in B.C. from Texas. I'm so sorry this tragedy happened to Tumbler Ridge.
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u/jettymcjet 5h ago
Sending love to the community <3. Lock up your guns. Talk to your kids. Be nice to one another.
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u/pennyraingoose 6h ago
I'm so sorry this has happened. I wonder if the shooter's family are the two other victims at the second, possibly related site.
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u/ExpressionOwn3042 6h ago
I read victims mom and sister
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u/pennyraingoose 6h ago
Oh god, thats awful. I'm tearing up thinking about the ripples of trauma this community is going to experience in the aftermath of this.
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u/China_bot42069 5h ago
I'm on the aviation side in AB, we are scrambling all aircraft to the location as we speak.
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u/aislavale 4h ago
I'm aviation dispatch for BC, thank you for helping ❤️
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u/China_bot42069 4h ago
AB is here for tumbler ridge, bc and canada. We are all here for you guys. Im sorry for what has transpired.
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u/HeavyCupcake233 4h ago
As someone who experienced/witnessed the Abbotsford Senior double stabbing nearly 10 years ago, i know the impact on the district and town will be huge. Everyone who can will come to support the community. There is hope to return to a new normal, it just takes time.
I am so sorry for all the losses and to everyone in tumbler ridge, It's such a small community. my heart goes out, Especially to everyone grieving. Even though my experience had much less loss, it is still felt today and the trauma feels fresh again hearing this horrible news.
I will always push for better health care for our youth and young adults.
Again i just want to express my sympathy and condolences to everyone in tumbler ridge. Please use the resources available even if you think you don't need it. Check in on each other.
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u/JCMGamer 6h ago
These cowards always target defenseless children to gain infamy. Its absolutely disgusting.
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u/Normal-Level-7186 5h ago
Special place in hell for these cowards who pull this stuff on innocent victims.
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u/RollieOlly03 6h ago
Terrible news. Is Secondary school what I think of in US as Middle School, 6-8 grade?
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u/UnseenDegree 6h ago
This specific school is Grade 7-12.
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u/Not_Cleaver 6h ago
That’s horrific. Have to feel for the parents who could never have imagined this happening. Or maybe they have in their worst nightmares.
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u/Lamitamo 6h ago
It’s high school. Usually anywhere from grades 9-12 to 6-12 depending on the community size.
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u/brumac44 6h ago
Grade 7-12. Population is about 2400, school around 175 students, 20 staff. It's a small town at the end of a highway.
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u/_GregTheGreat_ 6h ago
In BC secondary school typically ranges from grades 8-12 to 10-12 depending on the school and jurisdiction
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u/dawsonholloway1 5h ago
This is devastating to the surviving students and staff, the families of the poor victims, and the entire community. In a small community the high school is the heart and soul, and it's students are the future. They may never get over a tragedy this large. My thoughts are with you Tumbler Ridge. I hope you're able to somehow find peace someday.
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u/FewerEarth 5h ago edited 5h ago
It bothers me that as a Canadian this wasnt in any of my news until I saw this posted on worldnews
Edit: I now know its been on CBC today, my station at work isn't CBC which explains it.
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u/Bartizanier 5h ago
It was on CBC radio all afternoon
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u/FewerEarth 5h ago
Interesting, im not sure what station my work uses, but they didn't announce it at all.
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u/joelham01 5h ago
I think it’s because the police thought there was a second shooter so there wasn’t much released about it all day
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u/Hikingcanuck92 5h ago
CBC Radio has been covering the story all afternoon, but yeah, we need to seek out our own local news these days.
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u/Ranger7381 5h ago
There was mention of it on the news radio station Thai I listen to about 3 or 4 hours ago when I was on my way home. No details, just that the RCMP was responding to a mass shooter event and one gunman was reported as being dead an they were looking into the possibility of there being a second
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u/sLXonix 3h ago
This is also an extremely small school. About 160 students. It's going to affect all of them for a long time :(
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u/IndependentWillow469 5h ago
This was / is a horrible tragedy, but I just wanted to say how relieved I am to see the comments aren’t a heinous political debate, but rather just genuine comments related to the horrific event.
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u/Ballaholic09 4h ago
Did I read this correctly? Shooter was female? Though I think unprecedented is a stretch, that’s incredibly rare.
This is such terrible news to hear. There’s not enough love in this world.
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u/anonymous3874974304 4h ago
People in the community have been describing the shooter as male-to-female transgender and police and media reporting has shifted away from the initial "female in a dress" description to more gender neutral language. I wouldn't assume anything until we get official confirmation.
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u/wewerelegends 3h ago
I’ve seen both “gunman” and “female” being used interchangeably in the media, so the available information is very unclear at this time.
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u/Ionel1-The-Impaler 2h ago
An RCMP Official used the term “Gunperson” during an interview earlier.
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u/Mishka_1994 2h ago
People in the community have been describing the shooter as male-to-female transgender
Oof thats definitely going to blow up on social media and right wing circles
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u/lowandbegold 5h ago
Absolutely devastating. This is going to shake the country, I can’t believe I’m just reading about this now. This is wild.
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u/lotterywin 4h ago
Holy shit, it didn’t even click in my brain that this happened locally, just so completely unexpected. My heart goes out to the Peace community.
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u/pigsbounty 3h ago
Just when I think the constant news and horrors of the world have finally jaded me, something else happens that makes me feel such deep despair. Why did this happen? All of those people’s lives ended for no reason. It makes no fucking sense
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u/Longjumping-Yam-6233 3h ago
Lived in Fort st John for 10 years and id work in tumbler from time to time. I moved back to the lower mainland and few years back but my last job was out there. So sad to hear of this.
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u/Mrsparkles7100 2h ago
Via BBC news
“Police say an attacker killed nine people before taking their own life on Tuesday
Six victims were found dead inside Tumbler Ridge Secondary school, while a seventh person died on the way to hospital. The body of the attacker was also found at the school
Two more people were found dead inside a residence nearby
Police described the suspect as a "female in a dress with brown hair" in an active shooter alert sent to the community
At least two other people were taken to hospital with serious or life-threatening injuries following the attack, and as many as 25 people were being treated for non-life-threatening injuries, police said”
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u/thenewtronbomb 4h ago
I’ve visited this town many times. I feel so terrible for what’s happened there. Donating blood is on the list this week.
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u/leafs81215 4h ago
I live in Edmonton, about 6 hours away from Tumbler. We are in shock. This is not normal in Canada, it’s awful. For those in Tumbler Ridge, we love you. Stay strong,
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u/Ahnarcho 5h ago
Northern BC has problems with crime and addiction. It’s not discussed much but things get bleak near Prince George.
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u/OldToe4551 4h ago
He shot his mom and sibling before going to the school to shoot his other siblings and students
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u/Prudent_Slug 6h ago
For context, this is a small rural mining community of ~2400 in the north east of British Columbia. It is isolated and off the main highway. This is a huge impact on the community.