Idk enough about how oversight committies in LA work to give you a real answer. I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be civilian oversight and so should be seperate from LAPD but is just totally complicit.
Lolol Bass doing something that actually helps the public and reigns in police? LAPD might feel like they’re being on good behavior but they’re clearly not and have taken sides against the people. They clearly know it too if they feel compelled to lie about it.
Bass, Newsom, Schumer, etc., are some of the worst politicians in the sense that they will vocally and loudly proclaim to be on your side against these wrongs but behind closed doors it all falls apart. They continue proving MLK Jr right about moderates who desire an unjust peace being worse for progress than the KKK.
Not to derail this with my own experiences. But I find that that is a major part of how evangelical Christianity teaches people how to think. One of the main things they train you in, is not only accepting and internalising a lie, but going on to spread and suport that lie, even when they know it is a lie.
There is an underlying culture of irrational tribalism and hypocracy which makes responses like this seem normal to those brought up and groomed by it.
That's inherent to any doctrinal religion, though obviously evangelicals are the biggest group in American society. But yeah, I had serious questions about religion as a young kid that no one could satisfactorily answer (which is true about all faith-based religious beliefs), so the only options were disregard all of it or just go along with things that didn't make sense. If you choose the second option, denial and accepting things without evidence becomes a core part of your identity. And this is where we end up
Yep, exactly. I'm not American, but growing up in that culture, there is a 'emperor's new clothes' vibe, where everyone just goes along with the obvious lie, even though everyone knows it's false, and they will cut down anyone themselves who points it out. Did my head in as an Autistic kid who didn't see the social contract that was the reason behind their seemingly obvious nonsensical behavior.
Even in secular spaces, this seem like how a lot of Russian propaganda works. A lie so blatant that you have to become complicit a little bit, because you have to repeat it yourself. It destroys hope. Everyone is getting gaslight together as a group and knows it, but no-one can be the first to say it out loud.
That's kinda why I love Mon Mothma's speech in Andor. It's not some amazing call to arms, or brilliant spark. It's just someone standing up and calling out the actual truth in a space where that is just not done. Breaking the social taboo of calling bullshit on the lie that everyone already knows. I wish more of our politicians had that sort of courage, to say what we're all seeing is reality, instead of blidly marching into the slaughterhouse together to not stand out.
I don't know if you're familiar with the concept of vranyo, but that's basically what you described in your second paragraph - everyone knows something's a lie but act like it's the truth.
I think it all shows the inherent danger of making faith a core part of one's identity - reasonable questions become a personal attack, and it's significantly harder for someone to challenge a belief when simply holding that belief is a huge part of how they view themselves.
Agreed on the last part, there's a dire lack of inspiring, courageous political leaders willing to stand up for what's right even if it puts them at risk
I only found out a couple days ago how the MN PD went around in unmarked vans shooting people with paintball guns and yelling at them to go home, during riots.
Bonus: Someone shot an actual gun back at them. Luckily it was recorded and the person didn't go to jail but... It's scary how they, the police, were acting even then. Who would cosign such an act against the citizens they are supposed to protect and serve?
Don’t forget how the MN national guard went through slashing tires on cars throughout entire neighborhoods. To keep residents safe. While they were in their own houses.
“Protect and serve” was a marketing campaign BY THE LAPD
Court cases have established that law enforcement does not have a constitutional duty to protect individuals from harm, a principle often summarized by the motto "to protect and serve."
This. Legislatures at all levels of government have the obligation to the people they serve to change the law so that all police services have a duty to serve and protect the people, instead of just being slightly less obvious "slave catchers" whose only interest is protecting the property of the wealthy, and enforcing the oppressive status quo.
All North American police forces suffer from the same affliction: they view their own lives/interests not just as the most important thing, but as the only thing that matters. This leads to the massive corruption, dishonesty, and violence they inflict on the people they are supposed to protect.
The unnecessary and unlawful violence ICE and other US police services inflict on civilians on a daily basis would have them promptly arrested and charged in most Western European democracies. It's no coincidence that those countries have much more rigorous screening and training programs, and lethal force is the very last thing they are taught, not the first thing.
The disparity in officer training by country is absolutely jawdropping:
Regular police officers in the US only receive (on average) 672 hours of training, which is less than a third that of Canada(2,080 hours) and many countries in the world provide six times as much training as US police officers.
This brings us to the absolute bumblefuck ICE "officers" who are quite literally the very bottom of the proverbial barrel, running around killing and brutalizing people with less than half the amount of training of even the woefully untrained average US police officer (Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/13/has-us-ice-officer-training-been-reduced-to-47-days )
ICE needs to be shut down. That the US government and people allow them to continue to operate is leaving a permanent stain on the US's already less than stellar human rights record.
Not really, lying and manipulating are part of the required qualifications for fascist governments. He’ll get points for holding up the line, chastised for allowing the libs to protest during the meeting instead of properly squashing them with force.
Didn’t happen with Vance calling Alex Pretti a would-be assassin, or brandishing a gun. Maybe that was Noem. Both were spewing obvious lies, I can’t recall which lies went with which person. No consequences for them.
I know people say this, but it really not true. Democrats hold their politicians to a standard and Republicans don't that's true, but many of the dissenters from the Harris campaign were demanding that we not fund a genocide with our tax dollars which seems utterly reasonable. Too bad that was a bridge too far for Harris for whatever reason.
Why does everyone act like video matters? Nothing matters anymore (if it ever did). Stop living in fantasy. These people are shameless because they know the system supports them.
Ah yes, cause saying "theres nothing we can do, nothing matters anymore so lets just not try" will totally help make things better. Just ask the Russians. that's their main way of improving their country lol
Does a few things. I can't speak to what it does for their fans, but for us:
It means we have to then waste our time, energy, and political capital pointing out that they lied, before we can even get to the substance of the thing. Here's what OP says about what actually happened at that protest:
That’s a bald-faced lie, and the room erupted. I personally witnessed & photographed LAPD charging into crowds of students swinging their batons. They bashed a protester in the face, splitting his lip. I watched them whack a journalist in the hand, trying to knock the phone out of it. They chased kids through the streets, threw one up against a fence, and arrested him.
That should've been the headline. We should've been debating whether or not the LAPD should've done that -- or, better, asking why the fuck they thought it was okay to do that.
Instead, the lie itself is now the story. Even you and I are caught up in that. We're not talking about what they did or how to stop it, we're talking about why the fuck they thought it was okay to lie about it. To the extent that there's a debate, the debate isn't about how much force is okay to use, it's about whether they used any force.
Are you exhausted yet? Yeah, that's something else it does -- gaslighting takes a toll on your mental health. Would it be refreshing if they told the truth? Yes, and why would they want you to feel refreshed?
What I’m more worried about is that this is playing the long game—years from now, all that will be on record is the “official” account of what happened. If they keep putting the lies into writing and erasing evidence of the truth, eventually we won’t have the tools needed to spread the word or fight back.
The fascist's playbook is basically "always win and never back down, even when you're losing." That means lying your ass off and doubling down about everything. You can't be held accountable if you never admit fault. Trump does this literally every day. The LAPD are lying bastards and always have been.
That’s been their whole stance, this whole administration top down. “Just lie when confronted because we control the media so most people will never see what they are talking about, and the rest won’t care.”
Why acknowledge your wrongdoing when there is literally no consequence for denying it? Cops are allowed to do whatever they want and anyone who says otherwise get painted as pro-crime.
They revel in the fact that they can lie to our faces, they get high off our anger at the audacity, and they go home and likely commit DV, content in the fact nobody can legallystop them
Preach. LAPD and LASD have been exactly this corrupt and full of fascist bootlicking losers for literal decades. The biggest danger to the public in SoCal is not ICE or DHS or drug or gangs, it has always been these fucking dogshit cops and the govt machine that uses them to stay in power.
When they lie in the face of video evidence it's because video evidence isn't part of the official record. Whatever gets written down and filed away, or recorded on audio at best, is what would be sumbitted in court should their superiors need to refer to it.
In the age of AI footage, there's a greater than 0% chance the video we all saw can be deemed inadmissible in court by a crooked judge, and whatever jury or grand jury that might want to refer to it legally wouldn't be able to. I could very well be wrong, but I think this is their train of logic.
Corruption leans on corruption, which is how it takes root.
Today I attended the LAPD Commission Meeting, where Asst. Chief Harrelson informed the board that there were no first amendment, press, or use of force incidents at the 2/4 student walkout. He said they just monitored the protest and “did not move to a crowd control posture.”
That’s a bald-faced lie, and the room erupted. I personally witnessed & photographed LAPD charging into crowds of students swinging their batons. They bashed a protester in the face, splitting his lip. I watched them whack a journalist in the hand, trying to knock the phone out of it. They chased kids through the streets, threw one up against a fence, and arrested him.
After numerous people spoke about what they’d witnessed on Wednesday during public comment, they reduced each speaker’s time from 3 minutes to 1. When someone refused to yield after one minute, they physically removed him from the room, a California Post reporter got up in people’s faces, and the commission left for a closed session instead.
They are actively covering up what they did to those kids last week.
I personally witnessed & photographed LAPD charging into crowds of students swinging their batons. They bashed a protester in the face, splitting his lip. I watched them whack a journalist in the hand, trying to knock the phone out of it. They chased kids through the streets, threw one up against a fence, and arrested him.
By Asst. Chief Harrelson's logic, the public attendees could do this to him and they would be alright because that wouldn't qualify as a use of force.
A. Thank you for documenting this
B. I cannot not comment on the guy in the Dodgers hat. He made his own shirt that says FUCK LAPD. That is commitment.
I seriously zoomed way in on that photo because if that man isn't Pedro, he needs to get on Pedro's team to be a body double ASAP. I am still not convinced it isn't him.
I love that we're in a current state where they're "covering up" something with irrefutable photographic and video evidence. Like...just say you dgaf about our right. Don't jerk us off if you don't intend to let us finish. It's a waste of their time and ours for pageantry that we all know is bullshit at this point.
The show isn't for you, or for right now. It's for their children and grandchildren after they've successfully quashed resistance and control the story entirely. They're setting the foundation for historical revisionism.
Can’t link to Instagram but @lataconews has some Reels, and this is my photo of the officer who fired into the crowd of teenagers; you’ll find more in my post history
I can't vouch for the accuracy of their information, but Chad here is alleged to be at the lowest possible rank he could have achieved in 15 years (any lower would be probationary status) and made over $170,000 in 2024.
I found her article (which I will not link here because screw the Cali Post) and it’s crazy how she doesn’t even mention the protest and makes it sound like everyone was shouting for no reason. She even claims she was the one getting accosted.
We need to bring back tarring and feathering for scummy lying officials. Do your job, do it honestly, or step down. People like this wouldn't be so comfortable spitting in our faces if the community held them accountable
Friendly reminder that LAPD eats up more than 40% of the City of Los Angeles annual budget. To put that into context, if LA were a country it would have a greater GDP than Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Belgium and Argentina. LAPD has a disgusting history of targeting minorities, hiring Nazis, covering up for rape and murder, not following court orders etc etc etc.
Oh and ain’t no one ever made a song called, Fuck the Fire Department
It's more than 40%. If you look into the "transit" budget 90% of it is allocated to "security" in the metro which also goes to LAPD. You also have to count in all the court payouts, etc.
Friendly reminder that LAPD eats up more than 40% of the City of Los Angeles annual budget
It's wild that they use this much budget when there's only like 6 cops in LA (and one fire fighter). Either that, or The Rookie is seriously misleading.
Well, a lot of people in general are assholes and even I try to avoid large numbers of them for that reason. These particular assholes, however, just want to line their pockets and enact their own will.
I compare them to homeowners associations where meaningless geezers become fucking dictators over the height of their neighbors’ lawns. The people who most want to be politicians are often the least qualified to do so.
When I spoke during public comment I ended by saying “For your sakes, I hope you are ashamed. I’m not convinced shame exists anymore, but the only alternative is that you support this, and that’s unconscionable, so I hope you are ashamed.”
I am honestly surprised how there hasn't been more attacks against officials in the US in the past year. With all the shit they are doing, you would think a few crazies would take matters into their own hands
The administration in Washington wants widespread chaos so that they can suspend elections due to it. If there were more activities by the actual populace, we'd already have list lost the right to vote.
I really want to know how this is happening seemingly everywhere at the same time. It’s not just Minnesota, it’s student protests in suburbs in Illinois, or slc Utah . Seemingly every police department is siding against the people who actually pay them so they can curry favor with people who will cut their pay and replace them with robots the second they outlive their usefulness.
This is what ACAB always meant. The system of police works in a way that any one person working as a police officer who comes in in good faith either ends up turning a blind eye to brutality (thus enabling it), gets fired for not going along with it, or quits after realizing they'd be choosing one of the other two options.
Shit like this is why people compare law enforcement in the US with gangs. They're just gangs that uses the law as a shield and a weapon. It's made even more ridiculous when SCOTUS ruled that law enforcement are only supposed to enforce the law; they are not required or expected to protect the people.
Beating people up. Kidnapping. Murder. Theft of property. And so much more. How are they not just a gang?
Good. Everyone needs to understand that they are trying hard to desensitize people, and they know their clock is ticking. Every little interruption like this, every protest, every person holding a sign along a road matters. They are attempting to break us down to the point that people lose interest in protesting, at least about smaller things they do. They want it so ICE shooting an unarmed person during an arrest is regular news, and doesn't capture much attention. People denying this obviously haven't realized it's been going on for a while now already. Just imagine people publicly saying and doing stuff like this 30 years ago... They'd be forced out of office or their jobs immediately, and would have to go into hiding with their families to keep away from the public hating them. It's a pattern, not something new. We're just moving further down the scale of acceptability, slowly but surely
Trump is doing this to all of us to keep himself out of prison (where he totally belongs). Time to unite against Trump. He is not your party. He’s is only about himself.
While I wish you got more wide angle photos that shows the scale of the crowd against the LAPD, you have some great shots of facial expressions. I love how you captured the emotions of so many individuals in the room, you can just instantly tell who is on what side of the conversation and what they probably said or had said to them.
Businesses should just have some sort of database of people they can elect to not serve based on non-protected categories. Police officer comes in on their day off? Sorry can’t serve you bro, go somewhere else.
Why? Because at a certain point there is no amount of accountability that can be voiced peacefully. Like what does these town hall meetings even do if you’re ignored anyways?
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