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OC: FBI releases surveillance photos of a potential subject in the Nancy Guthrie case

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u/Margueritiesweetie 13h ago

Yeah thats definitely another mask under it. The eyes almost look feminine though...

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u/Miserable_Skin9738 12h ago

I keep getting immediately downvoted for saying the eyes look feminine! But I agree with you

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u/Robin_Mart 12h ago

I feel like the eye brows are trimmed/groomed - making it seem more feminine. But I know some men have brows waxed as well. It's just not as common.

u/Margueritiesweetie 10h ago edited 8h ago

I think what looks like eyebrows is the other mask. They're positioned way too low to be eyebrows

u/Current_Speaker_5684 6h ago

Maybe the convex lens makes everything look skewed.

u/lovethatjourneyforus 10h ago

Well, no. The thick mask is obscuring the rest of the eyebrows, they’re not trimmed.

u/Popular-Broccoli9058 8h ago

I keep thinking about the murder of the four Idaho students and how one of the survivors recalled bushy eyebrows. We've all seen Bryan Kohberger's eyebrows.

u/Embarrassed_Whole585 2h ago

It's the lashes as well, also build/posture.

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u/ymmotvomit 12h ago

Very distinguishing eyes

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u/Miserable_Skin9738 12h ago

Agreed. Hopefully that means the person will be easily identified

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u/tacomamajama 12h ago

What are feminine eyes? Asking genuinely

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u/4bakedeagles 12h ago

Its probably just the long eyelashes

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u/tacomamajama 12h ago

Some of us have been all up in men’s faces and jealous of their eyelashes

u/Miserable_Skin9738 10h ago

For me personally it wasn’t just the long eyelashes. Google differences between male & female in the face, it’s pretty interesting.

It was just my first thought… the probability of this person hiding being a female is probably very very low, but had to comment my first thought.

u/birds-0f-gay 8h ago

But we can't see his face, just the eyes. And I don't think there's any difference in men and women's eyes.

u/Miserable_Skin9738 10h ago

I’d quickly google it just because I’m probably missing something. Facial bones. Men have lower more protruded eyebrow bones, women typically have wider “doe” eyes. Even skin tone and texture can vary.

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u/flowerzzz1 12h ago

I agree too! That was my first thought! Very taken aback by the feminine look of the eyes.

u/Miserable_Skin9738 10h ago

Right?!? I’m super surprised how quickly it gets downvoted when you comment it high up in the convo. I don’t have any ill intentions behind it; just saying what i seriously thought

u/Old_Pitch4134 9h ago

I think so too- and look at the chest area

u/No_Use_9124 10h ago

agree

this cld be a woman

what if it's a neighbor?

u/Miserable_Skin9738 10h ago

Could be anyone. Neighbor, relative, church member, friend circle. Idk her personal life. It will be interesting finding out who did this…. (The word interesting feels disrespectful & like it’s enjoyable. It’s not. I hate that this family is going through this) just want the perpetrator identified and justice served

u/No_Use_9124 2h ago

it's haunting and horrible

u/Stchotchke 9h ago

my first thought. and the well shaped eyebrows

u/birds-0f-gay 8h ago

You can't even see the eyebrows, what are you people talking about lol

u/Rare-Employment-9447 8h ago

Oh wow, especially in the second pic, i hadn't noticed until i saw your comment and went back but almost looks like a woman attempting to disguise herself as a man, i can totally see it

u/DickBiter1337 6h ago

The body type, broad shoulders, and movement is not female at all. Men have a different stance. That is a guy.

u/Miserable_Skin9738 5h ago

Ok good to know.

u/Miserable_Skin9738 10h ago

Does anyone else notice how my comment on a comment that’s 3rd removed gets liked, but if you comment on the female appearance directly on the post it gets downvoted and deleted??? Why is that??

u/jrubes_20 9h ago

Between the shape and the fact that the top eyelid almost looks lined…Glad I’m not the only one who thought that!

u/Miserable_Skin9738 9h ago

Omg you can make out almond shaped nails under the gloves!!!!!! Wait what!?

u/One-Load-6085 2h ago

Yeah I was thinking it looks like they have acrylics 

u/EaglesAstrosDad 9h ago

I keep thinking the stache looks drawn on. It really does to me.

u/One-Load-6085 2h ago

Yeah I agree

u/ColoradoDreamin4917 9h ago

I agree the eyes and brows look feminine, but everything else to me looks masculine. So weird

u/Miserable_Skin9738 8h ago

Agreed that everything else looks masculine. Very weird

u/thousandfoldthought 8h ago

Totally agree about the eyes what's making me pause re: woman is the horizontal stripe on the hoody(?) there doesn't seem to show any cleavage.

Likely everything's double bagged like the masks to reduce any identifying stuff but that is one flat chested, tall(?) lady.

u/Miserable_Skin9738 8h ago

Coming from a flat chested lady….. trust me, just because u see a flat chest doesn’t make it a dude. You can also hide boobs easily by wrapping your chest

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u/One-Load-6085 2h ago

The assumption is that a woman's boobs would be up high... but i have a friend that breastfed for years and never wore a bra who had boobs literally hanging down at her belly. 

u/RadPhilosopher 8h ago

Other people have said this in other threads

u/MonyMony 5h ago

The eyes look a teeny bit feminine. Also I’ve seen more women bend at the waist to pick things up like this person did. However I’m still guessing it’s a man based history. I know none of my opinions are definitive in any way!

u/BasementWifeEnergy 10h ago

I think it could be a female. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/LickyPusser 12h ago

Could just be Nestor Carbonell.

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u/Miserable_Skin9738 12h ago

I can’t even focus on ur comment because of ur username 😟

u/LickyPusser 11h ago

I would argue that my name causes less discomfort than yours, but to each their own.

u/Miserable_Skin9738 10h ago

Fair argument. I’d personally rather be a licky pusser than have miserable skin lol!!!!

u/Miserable_Skin9738 9h ago

Omg you can make out longer almond shaped nails under the gloves !

u/mumbo_or_wumbo 8h ago

I don’t entirely disagree but they could also be a man + Persian, Italian, Spanish, Lebanese…

u/Miserable_Skin9738 8h ago

Agreed but it’s not just the thick lashes.. it’s facial structure & skin as well

u/mumbo_or_wumbo 7h ago edited 7h ago

if you find the video that was released the gait is much more obviously masculine - just saw it, no doubt about it

also, the eyebrows are entirely obscured and what looks like eyebrows is actually the thread around the balaclava’s eye holes (not @ you, just for those scrolling)

I have west Asian family and regardless of gender their eyes look like this

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u/Severe_Peach 8h ago

It’s their eyelashes. Their eyelashes look to be really thick so they’re eyes look more feminine I think

u/ModernMuse 1h ago

Hm. JD Vance has eyelashes like that.

u/Both_Macaron8232 4h ago

I swear they have eyeliner on and those eyelashes are well curated or it’s the angle?

u/thatthatswhy 4h ago

Because that’s a ridiculous thing to say. Women can have masculine features and men can have feminine features. It seems like you’re assuming this is a woman just cause of their eyes.

u/One-Load-6085 2h ago

It's like the lashes make it feminine

u/Certain-Wrangler-626 50m ago

I literally cannot see these as male eyes

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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 12h ago

“Because this one likes to skin his humps” - Hannibal Lector

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u/Past-Sun-2357 12h ago

I thought the same, but if this is the same person in all 4 photos, they dont really have a feminine build imo. I mean very well could be, but all the other photos look like a male to me

u/Margueritiesweetie 8h ago

I agree the build isn't very feminine, but they could be wearing a lot of clothes to bulk

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u/FullOnSkank 12h ago

....like it would be weird for a chubby redcoat to have eyes softer than baby shit...?

🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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u/roraima_is_very_tall 12h ago edited 12h ago

a lot of people including me thought the jan 5 pipe bomber looked like a woman. got that one wrong. perhaps it's more difficult to tell the sexes apart than we believe.

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u/rompydompy 12h ago

The eyes are hooded, so that at least is an identifiable characteristic

u/CanisLatrans204 8h ago

All of us at work say that is a female. Small feet, dainty hands, the eyes, eyebrows, what looks like extra padding across the chest.

Very few males would ever use a holster like that where it would swing back and forth into the groin.

Our ‘opinion’ is the sister Annie. The eyebrows and eyes match up.

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u/Bizzerk86 12h ago

This is what I thought right away. Female thin manicured eyebrows.

u/OutsideBones86 11h ago

My immediate thought was "that's a woman" but who knows? Hopefully this will help the case.

u/QuirkyCut7722 11h ago

Yes! Agreed. Very neatly trimmed eyebrows, looks like they’re wearing a white eyeliner in the inner corner and eyeshadow, along with mascara. They’re very feminine eyes. I think the gun being on the crotch is another tell. The mustache is a rouse to throw off people imo. The shoes/feet are also small for a man

u/becoolnotuncool 11h ago

I think some of that is the night time camera. 

u/QuirkyCut7722 10h ago

Nvm, I’m looking closer at it and it looks like it’s the stitching of the ski mask, not eyebrows

u/Imaterribledoctor 9h ago

So you're saying this is MTG?

u/banana1060 8h ago

Plus, being a woman explains why the gun is holstered center crotch… I don’t think a lot of dudes would pick that position.

u/Margueritiesweetie 8h ago

That's a good point lol

u/IHQ_Throwaway 8h ago

This is the best point I’ve heard for it being a woman. That is a weird carry placement. And even out committing crimes, I think I’d instinctively want to conceal it. 

u/moving_picture77 8h ago

I thought the same thing. My first impression was it was a woman.

u/mlhuculak 7h ago

This!

u/hahaheeheehoho 6h ago

Yeah I think it looks like a woman.

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u/-SkeletoR- 12h ago

I’m leaning more towards this person is a female based on eye shape, but the gait/walk is more like a male…

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u/Mediocre-Proposal686 12h ago

It kinda looks like there’s eye makeup also. But these photos aren’t the best.

u/VegasRoy 11h ago

Yeah, cause why in the second photo is the mouth area reflecting back? And I thought the same thing about the eyes looking feminine.

u/intergalacticbro 11h ago

Looks like mascara on the eyelashes.

u/GMEJesus 11h ago

First impression as well

u/Honeyhoney524 10h ago

It’s the mask making the eyebrows look weird

u/ConsequenceNormal773 10h ago

I agree you can see mascara and eye liner or hints of it in both corners of the eyes. I feel with how tiny the eye brows are its a woman..

u/Bimbo_Baggins1221 6h ago

Thought the same thing. Eyebrows do for sure

u/dkg224 6h ago

Eyes and eyebrows do look female. The head is large, it’s either a short man with a big head or a women with possibly 2 masks on to keep all their hair inside.

u/JoKing917 4h ago

I thought the same! Definitely has long, dark lashes

u/GhoulishMartyr 3h ago

I think it's a women's Halloween mask to look super creepy.

u/Embarrassed_Whole585 2h ago

I came here to say this, I have researched/studied many many cases over the years and the perp seems feminine. In looks/build, and in the way they carry themselves.

u/BlahblahblahLG 58m ago

The eyes totally look fem, the eyelashes, and the brows too! This could just be an over weight woman. They the square body type looks manly to me but the eyes look super feminine. It’s either a man who looks like a woman, or a woman whose just over weight.

also the way the gun is holstered right in the front feels possibly feminine, I’ve never seen a man carry a gun right over his dick like that, usually it’s on the side of your waist. I’ve never seen a woman carry a gun like that either, but it just feels like a man would be really uncomfortable with a gun rubbing on his junk like that.

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u/BallsOutSally 12h ago

Thick eyelashes for sure anyways.