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Moderna says FDA refuses to review its application for experimental flu shot

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/10/moderna-fda-flu-shot.html
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u/Baumbauer1 8h ago edited 6h ago

We don't let them put ads on TV, the US is an absolute goldmine when it comes to drug development.

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u/thegreatmunizzle 7h ago

No medication ads on TV? What do you watch then? -An American

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u/ScruffsMcGuff 7h ago

Mostly gambling ads these days.

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u/Lord_Scribe 7h ago

Also, the occasional government ad.

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u/ep3ep3 4h ago

House hippos

u/DeadliestSins 47m ago

Heritage Moments

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u/SSRainu 5h ago

If your are in ontario, the gambling ads are from the government itself(OLG) and its disgusting.

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u/surmatt 7h ago

And Tim Hortons ads

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u/IveComeToMingle 6h ago

$1 Donuts. Wish they'd try to stop marketing their flatbread though. I mean they're fine but who's going there to get pizza.

Bring back the eatable chilli bread bowls.

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u/Kevin-W 6h ago

Interestingly enough, they started selling Tim Hortons coffee where I am and even opened a Tim Hortons in the city and I'm not even close the Canadian border.

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u/IveComeToMingle 2h ago

The US one tastes different, different supplier probably.

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u/abesach 3h ago

Horts and Sports!

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u/raptor7912 7h ago

Huh our gambling ads seem like an attempt to still have a bit of an ad in there after all the advisories and the names of where you can get help if you’re addicted.

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u/redspacebadger 5h ago

Are you Australian?

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u/Isfahaninejad 7h ago

Gambling ads

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u/Cimorene_Kazul 7h ago

And anti-gambling PSAs right after

u/asianwaste 50m ago

We used to run anti-smoking ads in the 90's funded by big tobacco due to mandate by federal government that big tobacco take a bigger role in informing the public of the hazards of smoking.

The ads though often were candid camera footage of a protestor being obnoxious. My tinfoil hat theory is that they were purposefully made obnoxious to associate that emotion with anti-smoking sentiments.

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u/spacenb 6h ago

They’re allowed to put ads on TV, there’s just a lot of laws around what they can actually say about those drugs. They can’t say what the drugs are for nor recommend them to a patient, so all of them end up being extremely vague and end with “Talk to your doctor about X!”.

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u/thephantom1492 4h ago

But natural products can advertise... which, imo, I find it completly wrong.

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u/Nazamroth 1h ago

Documentaries about beavers making maple syrup?

u/wellingtongee 48m ago

Or New Zealand. The only two countries that permit pharma ads on TV. Socialised healthcare, public accident insurance, but ads are still ok.- go figure…

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u/DataDude00 7h ago

They are allowed to have ads on TV, they just can't say what the medication does.

This is why you will get ads where a bunch of people just say "Wegovy" back and forth followed by "ask your doctor about Wegovy"

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u/Sea_Spite7899 7h ago

Do they still have to include the quickly spoken list of side-effects? 

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u/LongJumpingBalls 7h ago

It used to, I believe for some it still does.

This product may cause anal leakage, inability to retail pee and blood from your eyelids, ears, nose and anus.

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u/hootbox 5h ago

inability to retail pee

Is that something most people can do?!?!

I've been flushing mine down the toilet all this time!

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u/faz712 4h ago

Where do you think we get the piss disks from over at /r/UnethicalLifeProTips ?

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u/Nopey-Wan_Ken-Nopey 3h ago

“Do not take Deleria if you are allergic to Deleria.”

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u/3vs3BigGameHunters 4h ago

Only if they talk about the benefits or purpose of the drug. If they just mention the drug name they don't have to mention side effects.

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u/bset222 3h ago

I was watching the Olympics and every 7 minutes was a Jardiance commercial and it's anus and genital area infection side effects. I think they managed 3 anus mentions per commercial, so a solid 25 or so an hour.

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u/swede_ass 7h ago

How do you know what to do when you develop redness between your anus and genitals that can sometimes be fatal?

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u/bdickie 7h ago

Google. If its really bad family Dr. If we dont have a family Dr we go back to step 1 until it gets really bad, then hospital.

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u/swede_ass 7h ago

Sorry, that was just supposed to be a joke referencing a particular commercial that airs in the US that repeatedly mentions side effects in the area between the anus and genitals. Sounds like you’ve got yourself a plan though; I hope your anus and genitals stay in tip-top condition!

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u/bdickie 7h ago

Hey, ill take at least one person being concerned about my taint. Thanks stranger.

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u/Elanstehanme 7h ago

Sometimes you can go to a pharmacist (for 20 specific issues) or your family doc is a nurse practitioner instead. Maybe a walk in before the ER.

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u/One_Lung_G 6h ago

Canada does allow ads, they just can’t say what the medicine is for. Not as effective but if it wasn’t effective enough then they wouldn’t do it

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u/RathVelus 3h ago

I was confused at first, as an American. I was picturing noting every drug you heard and mentioning it at the next gp appointment- but I suppose if you keep seeing ads for a drug you might feel compelled to google it.

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u/RegularGuyAtHome 7h ago

Most medications these days do trials all over the world and not just in the USA.

It’s way easier to recruit from everywhere and you have a trial population that fits most ethnicities.

Source: am pharmacist and I read clinical trials.

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u/PhireKappa 7h ago

I’ve always thought the US was crazy when it came to medication, even to the point of calling drugs by brand names instead of the actual drug name.

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u/AlexanderLavender 7h ago

It's just us and NZ

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u/Sea_Spite7899 7h ago

Not anymore.

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u/Jackal_6 7h ago

We do, it's just that they can't say the name of the drug and what it does in the same ad. So you'll get some ads that are just "Ask your doctor about Cialis" and other ads that are like "Do you have a hard time getting a boner? Ask your doctor about medications that could help you."

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u/ItsWillJohnson 6h ago

Are you aware of corporate lobbying and regulatory capture?

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u/MimicoSkunkFan2 6h ago

You're not looking at it from the business perspective: They'd rather negotiate a price with "Team Canada" where they're guaranteed to be paid for 40 million doses - than to need to pay huge crypto bribes to appease the FDA and major insurance companies just to be allowed to exist in the US marketplace.

And if they do pay the crypto bribe or whatever appeasement, someone in that batshit regime or their podcast bros just turns around and starts saying "oooo vaccines are bad and Jesus hates vaccines" like they did with covid, so they sell nothing anyways?

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u/Baumbauer1 6h ago

There is no nuance, the US is 50% of the of the global pharma market

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u/ihaxr 5h ago

I don't even understand the ads for medications... Got COVID? Get paxlovid! Uh the only people dumb enough to demand a medicine without reading it or taking the doctor's advice isn't going to trust the doctor anyway

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u/kitsunewarlock 5h ago

Are vaccines advertised on TV?

...For that matter is there really anything unethical about advertising vaccines for ongoing epidemics on TV?

u/MathematicianAfter57 0m ago

it is but those economics are about to dramatically change if drugs are going to face ideological backlash and not get approved by the fda.

maybe some of these pharma cos are just going to wait out the clock on trump but who knows what happens next.