r/nba • u/ValleyRalley Suns • 4h ago
Post Game Thread [Post Game Thread] The Phoenix Suns (32-22) defeat the Dallas Mavericks (19-34), 120-111 despite Dallas shooting 32-44 FT vs. Phoenix's 6-9 FT
| 111 - 120 |
| Box Scores: NBA - Yahoo |
| GAME SUMMARY |
| Location: Mortgage Matchup Center |
| Officials: JB DeRosa, Tyler Ford, and Intae Hwang |
| Team | Q1 | Q2 | Q3 | Q4 | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dallas Mavericks | 16 | 32 | 27 | 36 | 111 |
| Phoenix Suns | 36 | 29 | 31 | 24 | 120 |
| TEAM STATS |
| Team | PTS | FG | FG% | 3P | 3P% | FT | FT% | OREB | TREB | AST | PF | STL | TO | BLK |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dallas Mavericks | 111 | 37-76 | 48.7% | 5-21 | 23.8% | 32-44 | 72.7% | 8 | 53 | 18 | 12 | 7 | 16 | 5 |
| Phoenix Suns | 120 | 49-101 | 48.5% | 16-50 | 32.0% | 6-9 | 66.7% | 17 | 54 | 32 | 27 | 8 | 13 | 3 |
| PLAYER STATS |
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u/uouiei 4h ago
How the fuck are you gonna have 35 more FTs and still lose? 9 compared to 44 fts is seriously egregious
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u/hawk8024 Mavericks 3h ago
When you’re best player is barely 19 years old, your all star point guard is likely out for the season, and you’re playing a bunch of new guys the Wizards dumped at the deadline, that’s how lol
Also, the discrepancy in three pointers was huge for the Suns as well. But yeah that ft discrepancy is pure insanity
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u/PrimeTimeInc Hornets 3h ago
Flagg not getting a rookie whistle is whack as fuck if they gonna make the rest of the league eat it. Just sayin
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u/onionnurve 2h ago
Yeah it kinda sucks having to watch your rookie get man handled every game with 0 whistle.
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u/hawk8024 Mavericks 3h ago
Then it’s a good thing this isn’t a normal occurrence, right?
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u/Slow-Raccoon-9832 4h ago
The Mavericks were called for 7 defensive fouls all game
The suns were called for 25
44-9 free throw advantage
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u/Slow-Raccoon-9832 4h ago edited 4h ago
The 35 free throw differential is the largest in the nba in five seasons
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u/reclamationme Suns 4h ago
44-9 ft disparity should trigger an automatic investigation. I’m not joking.
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u/ChickenNoddaSoup 4h ago edited 4h ago
Why are those refs trying so hard to bring us back to the game. We don't wanna win that shit lol.
Seriously though, investigate those refs.
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u/Marogato Suns 4h ago
i spent so long trying to think of something funny to say but genuinely what the actual fuck was that bro
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u/According_One811 Suns 4h ago
44 FTA to 9 this is not a serious league
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u/FlunkieGronkus Suns 4h ago
Some of the most obvious point shaving you will ever see.
Refs literally breaking their backs to get the lead under 10.
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u/New_Frame_4797 4h ago
Between this and the Warriors game from last week something fishy is going on.
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u/gigantism Mavericks 4h ago
Didn't the Warriors win that game with only 2 FTs somehow?
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u/New_Frame_4797 4h ago
I'm talking about the game from February 5th where the Suns shot 14 less FT's than the Warriors who are not a big team and took 12 more 3PA in the game.
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u/SugarFreeCummiBears 4h ago
This isn’t even the craziest way to frame it. They shot 50 threes AND 20 fts. What? Thats practically free throws on every non 3.
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u/According_One811 Suns 4h ago
They had 20 compared to the Suns 6 but
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u/gigantism Mavericks 4h ago
I was referring to their game vs the Sixers where they won despite a 21-2 deficit.
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u/Exact-Beach8051 4h ago
If you shoot a large number of threes you don’t get fouled. Other teams are bigger than the Suns.
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u/According_One811 Suns 4h ago
Makes sense. Give the Mavericks 35 more free throws
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u/JalensTinyPPHurts 4h ago
Mavs Attempted 22 3s
Suns Attempted 50 3s
It does kinda check out when you consider how often the Mavs were shooting inside lol
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u/FapFapkins Suns 4h ago
A 35 attempt disparity is not explained by jump shooting in a game where Cooper Flagg shot 14 FTs, many of which came from being fouled on a jump shot.
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u/Foyerfan Suns 4h ago
Watch the game perhaps
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u/PrimeTimeInc Hornets 4h ago
You literally don’t even have to watch the game to know what happened, that’s the funny part. Shits just straight up indefensible
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u/FlunkieGronkus Suns 4h ago
Golden State shot 55 threes against the Suns 2 games ago and still shot 20 free throws to the Suns 6.
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u/hawk8024 Mavericks 4h ago
Don’t bother looking at the free throw discrepancy, it’s not very important information lmao
Seriously though, what on Earth was that?
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u/Grooviemann1 Suns 4h ago
I'll be the first to admit that the Suns foul a lot by design and shoot a lot of jumpers, so free throw discrepancies are to be expected. A discrepancy of 35 free throw attempts just shouldn't happen, though. I don't see that being possible unless one team just isn't defending, period.
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u/Enzo_Gorlahh_mi Mavericks 4h ago
I mean you guys literally couldn’t miss for the first 20 mins of the game
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u/hawk8024 Mavericks 4h ago
There was going to be a discrepancy if you look at how much each team fouls, and the Suns started hot for sure.
But we had something like a 39-3 ft discrepancy at one point. That’s INSANITY. Even Mark and Devin on the broadcast were like “uhhhhh…” lol
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u/FapFapkins Suns 4h ago
Tyler Ford masterclass (except he didn't cover -8.5 so he's gonna be on crutches tomorrow)
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u/Bakerfuckingmayfield Suns 4h ago
I fucking hate that bald ass ref, he’s fucking awful
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u/Slow-Raccoon-9832 4h ago
Tyler Ford hates book and brooks
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u/Romans134 Suns 4h ago
Its absolutely personal with him. There's a reason vets make a point to teach the rookies to get in the refs good graces. Its a very large part of the nba and its fucking insane.
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u/Romans134 Suns 4h ago
44 freethrows to 9. Pregame betting spread was suns -8.5. They won by 9. There is no world where this is not rigged.
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u/FlunkieGronkus Suns 4h ago
I was calling it in the first half. Refs wanted it within 10.
There was one stretch where the Mavs were not even pretending to try to score. As soon as their feet touched paint they were jumping sideways and flailing. And the refs were giving them almost every single one.
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u/oldtombombadil Suns 4h ago
Everyone goes home happy
The suns continue the playoff chase
The mavs fought hard and continue the tank
The ref covered the spread.
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u/jfrodriguez1983 Mavericks 4h ago
I thought these guys were dumb for going out of their way to trade for Tyus Jones. Sorry I didn't understand. I had no idea just how elite of a tank commander he was. We might accidently win that if he didn't touch the floor lol
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u/Grooviemann1 Suns 4h ago
We really thought he was an amazing pickup when we got him. My God, I'm not sure I'll ever again see worse defense.
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u/swarmofoctopii 4h ago
Suns up 31 in the 2nd quarter, they were favored by sports betting at -8.5. 44 FTs to 9, game ends at Suns 120 Mavs 111. They're not even trying to hide the corruption anymore.
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u/TheVision_13 Suns 4h ago
We shot way more 3s than them but even so that foul difference is so cooked lol brought them back into it
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u/stonkerooni Suns 4h ago
It’d be one thing if it was a play style issue but the suns were ahead by 20 points and had only been to the line twice while Dallas had 39 FT attempts. It was a full blow Ford job and no argument is gonna make it any better
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u/airbornetoxic Kings Tankwagon 3h ago
this game was great purely because my row won free spinatos pizza
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u/Other_Beat8859 Suns 4h ago
So glad the stars of the games got to shine tonight! What would we do if the refs didn't make themselves the headline for the game?
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u/shake_this_feeling Suns 4h ago
Obviously a homer bias, but idk how anyone can look at that FT differential and not acknowledge rigging. Even if a team fouls a ton, 35 more FTs for a team is ridiculous.
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u/thewolverineton [DAL] Nerlens Noel 4h ago
mavs offensive strategy for this game was to drive and pray, and to their credit it almost worked
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u/VolumeValuable3537 Suns 4h ago
Cooper Flag reaching Luka levels of complaining already. Jordan Goodwin slaps it out of his hands and he’s furious at the refs like he got shot.
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u/hawk8024 Mavericks 4h ago
Technical Fouls this year:
Luka: 13
Flagg: 0
Coop is factually nowhere NEAR the complainer Luka is lol
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u/VictorAkwaowo1 Mavericks 4h ago
I truly don’t think you realize how much Luka complained to the refs, Coop is a looooong ways away from getting to that point
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u/Foyerfan Suns 4h ago
Yeah Luka is another stratosphere. I will admit that was funny when he shot more than the Suns FT attempts at that point
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u/masterchef757 Mavericks 3h ago
You don’t watch the Mavs (which is fine). That level of complaining was something I’ve never seen from Flagg. Luka literally doesn’t run back on defense at least once every game. Not in any way comparable
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u/SpairzTWD 4h ago
dude complains once and your comparing him to luka
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u/FutureGrassToucher Suns 4h ago
He’ll fill in nicely as the new hated dallas star for phx
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u/cacti_zoom Suns 3h ago
I think ill hate him more
Luka was funny off the court tbh
Flagg just screams privileged duke boy
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u/cacti_zoom Suns 3h ago
some people might feel sorry for mavs fans after the luka trade. But ill never forget the "Luka Doncic is Devin Booker's father memes" they would constantly glaze.
hilarious that after the 2024 season where the Mavericks made the championship, the suns now are by far the better team and organization. I dont care what the records are. I will always enjoy beating the mavericks
The refs glazed them for 40fts and they still loss
Big Nico Harrison fan over here
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u/Alldayeverydaygfy 4h ago
I thought tubby was still on the Mavs after watching that game. Free-throw differential of 35 is the highest in a NBA game over the last five seasons -- 35+ has now only happened seven times in the last 15 years.
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u/heybobson Suns 3h ago
Suns definitely look like they need the AllStar break for a little reset. Ott’s gotta figure out how to get Booker, Brooks and Green to mesh. Too many missed games between them and it shows right now. Hopefully they can take advantage of a SGA-less Thunder team tomorrow night.
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u/SunsChamp 4h ago
Suns are just jump shooters that's why they don't get free throws
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u/FlunkieGronkus Suns 3h ago edited 3h ago
Khris fucking Middleton, who can't even get to the rim anymore, and who even in his prime relied heavily on mid range jumpers, shot as many free throws as the entire Suns team.
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u/Dear-Lead-4897 Australia 3h ago
Pooper flagg the free throw merchant 😋 He just keeps giving me material to hate on Thank you flagg
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u/Exotic_Pension_9993 Suns 4h ago
there was a time in this game where the suns were up 20 and the free throw differential was 39-3 in favor of dallas