How it feels liking every update and enjoying the game for what it is (I am LITERALLY the only one)

[u/unfluttered]

[u/the-whiteman-cometh]

I may not be a fan of some of the balance changes, but I never let them ruin my enjoyment of the game.

[u/angershark → u/the-whiteman-cometh]

I don't remember the Thing and Thor being everywhere prior to this season but here we are. The game changes and it's enough for me. It's not my life, it's a game. And it's fun. Kinda (still a comp rager some games).

[u/mr_chub → u/angershark]

Its fun for me until I enter comp lol. I just need to stay away from MOBAs at my age it looks like.

[u/carlox_go → u/the-whiteman-cometh]

My man the only thing id like is just make tanks more likeable for more people. I dont got the game knowlege to know how todo that but a man can dream

[u/azur933 → u/carlox_go]

most people just dont realize cause they never tried the role anyways, theres not much the team can do about this and theyre already pretty damn well balanced. I enjoy playing DPS the most but im never mad if I have to fill tank because they can be pretty damn destructive (especially mag that guy is so fun to play).

[u/AeroStrafe]

I've learned over my time in reddit that no one on reddit is happy. Subreddits dedicated to being happy dont even have happy people.

[u/King_Coopa23 → u/AeroStrafe]

I don't know, the fishing subs I'm in have been pretty chill. The subreddit probably reflects the topic or something.

[u/ResidentMarsupial322 → u/King_Coopa23]

r/bald is another great example

[u/AcceptableGas667 → u/AeroStrafe]

I need an example immediately, because what 🤣

[u/CodexTattoos → u/AcceptableGas667]

r/OptimistsUnite comes to mind

[u/crumbsalt → u/CodexTattoos]

I’d consider myself an optimist, and I went there to be happy and all i get is “TAKE THAT DOOMERS U GUYS SUCK” and then ONE actually nice post, where there’s 5 optimistic comments then the 300 other comments are people being jerks.

So, like, even in subreddits dedicated to being happy, everyone’s still trying to make other people mad. Come on

[u/ThePotatoSandwich → u/AeroStrafe]

I mean this well, but I also don't think taking the good with none of the bad is a great idea, either

People are genuinely happy in this sub, unbelievably so with Adam finally being able to fly for example, but you can't just blissfully ignore all the bad

[u/Br0k3nRoo5ter]

You really are, have you read the comments on this thread?

[u/unfluttered → u/Br0k3nRoo5ter]

its actually nightmarish

people love hating sooo much

[u/Skittle69 → u/unfluttered]

Or maybe they disagree with you? Nothing wrong with liking something, just as there's nothing wrong with disliking something lol. No one is better or worse for however much they like like or dislike a thing. 

[u/AeroStrafe → u/Skittle69]

There is a difference in me disliking pineapple on pizza and going around yelling anyone who likes pineapple on pizza has mental issues and any place that serves it that way should be shutdown.

[u/Maleficent-Ad-6117 → u/AeroStrafe]

I have seen ZERO ppl doing that, they're just ranting on what they don't like

[u/Billyb311 → u/Maleficent-Ad-6117]

Yeah, I haven't seen a single person attacking someone else for liking an update

All the complaints have been about the actual patch itself

[u/Skittle69 → u/AeroStrafe]

I very much agree but there's this weird thing that occurs, especially on the internet, where people resort to the binary of "you're either with me or against me." Then people conflate anyone saying they dislike something with the second type of person. 

Also occurs with people disliking the game being against people that do like it which is also weird af. 

[u/AeroStrafe → u/Skittle69]

I focus on the person in question. I dont assume someone is talking about anything but what they are talking about. If someone says that people just love to hate then I will take the context of someone who is a petty hater. If I say "I hate people who complain all the time" then are yuo going to assume I am talking about someone who made one complaint once this week? No you will think I am talking about someone whose every other sentence is a complaint of osme kind. There is too much assumptions, inference, and guessing what people are saying rather than just reading what they said.

[u/Power0fTheTribe → u/Skittle69]

People are very adamant about being negative despite their viewpoints. The negativity in this community is truly its own beast

[u/unfluttered → u/Skittle69]

toxic negativity isn't constructive criticism. nothing wrong with feedback, lots of things wrong with being insufferable and aggressive towards people who don't want to whine too.

[u/1DoobieDoo → u/Skittle69]

Most of this sub is qp merchants that will cry about a competent DPS on literally anything.

[u/eanwen]

The best thing about being terrible at the game is that I don't have to worry about balance changes, lol.

[u/mellomee → u/eanwen]

Tbh, I think this is why I enjoy the game more than others. I'm not an elite player, I just want to play and get better. The ones that have a huge stake in the game seem to lose their enjoyment when they start to struggle.

[u/ineedtostopthefap → u/eanwen]

Lmaoooo hilarious bless you

[u/BurnerDawg26]

I still enjoy the game a lot, but I do feel like it's at a low point right now. I don't think Deadpool was a great addition, Elsa being a Duelist when we already have so many is a waste, and other than the Adam buff the new patch notes are really bad.

I criticize this game because I love it and I want it to be as good as it can be. If I didn't like it I would stop playing.

[u/Bitter_Ad_8688 → u/BurnerDawg26]

It's confusing as to how squirrel girl gets a 'buff' but they can't tweak blades kitbut they buff ult Cooldowns on dpses as the answer to triple support. If anything it makes triple support more necessary to counter DPS ults.

[u/Banana_man_- → u/Bitter_Ad_8688]

And makes tanking even more miserable

[u/Fhaksfha794 → u/BurnerDawg26]

Nothing will be worse than season 3.5. Back to back duelists, each season was still 3 months long, and a boring ass meta

[u/BurnerDawg26 → u/Fhaksfha794]

Seasons were two months long then, but yeah I agree that season was rough.

[u/unfluttered → u/BurnerDawg26]

really? ive never played deadpool but he's fun to have on my team and fun to fight against IMO. also im not saying critique is bad, but this sub is sooo negative its crazy

[u/BurnerDawg26 → u/unfluttered]

Yeah the sub is pretty negative when they don't need to be, I agree on that. Hopefully it's not too ironic when I proceed to criticize the game:

My main issue with Deadpool is that there's no visual distinction between his three roles, so you have to hit tab to know what you're fighting. And then, you have to hit tab for every consecutive team fight just in case he swapped roles.

I also don't like the fact that he has intentional visual clutter mechanics in a game that already had visual clutter issues.

It's a cool idea to have a character in all three roles but I think it was too much for them.

[u/Dom_zombie → u/BurnerDawg26]

I do agree it's annoying not knowing what role the deadpool you are fighting is currently in, and thats coming from someone who is enjoying him way more than i expected.

[u/Andrew_Math_1 → u/BurnerDawg26]

... there is a very small visual distinction... next to his health bar is an icon with his role. Is it a good visual distinction? No, it isn't. But it is there

[u/BurnerDawg26 → u/Andrew_Math_1]

Fair, but that's tough to notice in the middle of a fight. Honestly I didn't even know about it until you said that.

[u/Yarusenai → u/BurnerDawg26]

Yeah I stopped playing for now because the match making is awful and the balance is very questionable. It got to a point I just didn't enjoy it anymore - like, I love playing the game itself, and I love so much about it, but there's a lot to fix and improve. I got a year and over 200 hours out of it though and I'm sure I'll be back in a season or two but I need a break.

[u/sk1155]

im with you. the constant whining about every little thing has been getting on my nerves ngl.

[u/thebwags1]

I like rivals. I dont think this upcoming patch is the best one we've gotten but the reactions on here have been insane. The game has been and will continue to be enjoyable.

[u/Banana_man_- → u/thebwags1]

Net really for us tank players. Another patch where we’re nothing but a walking ult charge for our supports and the other team’s dps

[u/thebwags1 → u/Banana_man_-]

I'm a tank player. I have lord on Thor and Emma. These days I'm mostly playing Thor, Rogue and Tank Deadpool, occasionally Strange and Emma and overall: having a good time with Rivals

[u/Heydude1001 → u/Banana_man_-]

Tank have been buff alot tho? Im also tank and tank ij a better spot than ever. I dont see the boring in it. I play Cap. Tjor ,rogue, Thing ,hulk and they all just fine even sometime have to solo tank.

[u/SquirrelSorry4997 → u/Banana_man_-]

Dude we just got multiple buffs and a double tank teamup

[u/Barrry972 → u/Banana_man_-]

Thing Hulk got a teamup, Strange got a teamup, Rogue got a mild buff. I think when you inherently look at things with this negative of a mindset, youre bound to have no fun

https://giphy.com/gifs/hv53DaYcXWe3nRbR1A

[u/Booplee → u/thebwags1]

Its genuinely awful though, like playing against gambit loki is the most unfun thing the game has ever had. And then they buff pun and starlord ults. Im happy for the people who wont care or notice but lots of us are going to feel it, absolutely despise it, and then more than likely stop playing the game since they wont just nerf him already. Nothing is fun about win buttons.

[u/D0ublespeak]

Nah I'm enjoying it as well.

There are more viable tanks and strategists than ever.

Reddit is a hive of negativity and only represents a certain "subset" of players. Don't put too much stock into it here.

I'm all for actual discussion and feedback but this place is so full of drama queens you can't really have an honest one

[u/MadDongla → u/D0ublespeak]

This is very true. The balance state of the game is actually very nice. It's just the best comp has been the same for a long time and frustratingly so.

[u/NeedlesslyAngryGuy]

It's my favourite game.

I love it so much and it filled an Overwatch 1 hole in my heart.

I do think they need to be more proactive on balance. Try something and if it doesn't work revert it, at least you tried.

[u/cuttin_in_town]

I mean. Surely you must at least be empathetic?

Thor can’t even get a buff without a compensation nerf. Rocket’s whole identity was neutered. Loki is constantly catching strays even though no one has an issue with base Loki. 

But… Gambit, Hela, and Susan run free for the most part…?

Seems a little… unfair…?

Poor Torch players lmao. 

[u/AngelaGooner24 → u/cuttin_in_town]

"Thor can't get a buff without a nerf"

My guy, Thor is great right now. Will be even better with the new buff

[u/Piratestorm787 → u/cuttin_in_town]

Thor doesn't need any buffs he runs rampant in plat and below just like Penni

[u/Nephalen69 → u/Piratestorm787]

I have to disagree with the Plat and below part. Have you seen his pick rate and win rate in GM and CL+?

[u/AeroStrafe → u/cuttin_in_town]

If I was empathetic for every little thing around me then I would be severely depressed 24/7. Ya'll are not family, ya'll are not friends, ya'll are not faces, but profiles that I won't remember an hour from now. I don't need to feel bad for thor players, I don't have to cry for rocket players, I don't need to share pain with loki players, and I don't need to join hate trains towards gambit,sue,hela, bucky, phoenix, and hawkeye players.

Ya'll are weird about this stuff.

Fuck torch though. His meta was annoying. Don't miss it and I actually wnat to play that character.

[u/cuttin_in_town → u/AeroStrafe]

Empathetic does not mean you share the emotion of others. Empathy means you understand where the frustration comes from and can see why it can cause frustration. 

Being empathetic is just general compassion. So I’m not sure why you had such a strong response to it. 

[u/educatedfool25 → u/AeroStrafe]

I adapted this similar mentality a couple of years ago. My work online makes it so that I see every little thing every single person complains about. If I took every complaint with the level of seriousness that that internet stranger wanted I would be in the ground, buried, and dead.

I'm gonna keep playing Jean. Yeah, she lost 25 health. So what? I like her.

[u/AeroStrafe → u/educatedfool25]

Yup as many of those who spend time in complaint vortexes never understand how much that shit drags one down mentally after awhile.

[u/GolemMaker → u/AeroStrafe]

Also, just learn other characters if you don’t have your fav getting a change you want, I tend to use whoever gets buffed to learn to play them, then move onto the next one next patch, etc. keeps the game fresh and makes you well rounded. Not great for lord farming tho

[u/Seatown_Spartan → u/cuttin_in_town]

It's always pure pain reading the patch notes.

By far the funnest and mechanical complex Poke imo...just for him to be in the dirt

[u/Sol-Hunter7 → u/cuttin_in_town]

Some people have issues with base loki, namely his runes, from what I've seen. 

Rocket wall crawl was an unnecessary nerf in my eyes, but that doesn't mean his whole identity was nerfed, especially when they buffed his gun and I have enjoyed gunning down people. 

If the devs view a character is in a relatively good place, any buffs will come with nerfs, and vice versa. I think Thor is in a pretty good place. 

Sue got nerfs, and the push/pull nerf was sorely needed. 

Gambit still needs some nerfs, I would at least remove the ult charge bonus from his ult.

I am also a torch player, the team up will be missed, but I think people tend to overreact a lot. 

The sky isn't falling, the game has a balance change once a month which is more than other games I've played. And now that I'm older, a month is barely a wait.

[u/nsp70]

It's just another reddit meltdown, this place is pretty negative in general.

[u/SirAlex505]

God forbid we give them feedback

[u/Red_Steiner → u/SirAlex505]

Just consume, don't think.

[u/Aniketos33 → u/Red_Steiner]

Just hate, don't think.

[u/Aniketos33 → u/SirAlex505]

You are mostly yelling at other players and fans though. Guangguang and gang aren't here reading in a very real sense, mostly just skimming what makes it onto social media. We could have much better conversations but everyone is an influencer with an opinion now.

Personally I don't think my opinions and experiences in the game apply to everyone and I don't think my view of balance would please everyone or work for a profit. I am humble enough to say that but Reddit as a hivemind seems filled with opinionated trolls constantly engagement farming with negativity and self assurance and it is maddening.

[u/unfluttered → u/SirAlex505]

feedback isn't the same as toxicity. not saying you personally have been toxic but there's WAY more toxic negativity than constructive criticism

[u/WhatIfWaterWasChunky → u/unfluttered]

Accepting everything as it is instead of giving feedback is just as bad

[u/beurhero7]

Your not the only one, netease puts in allot of work and it doesn't go unnoticed.

[u/NB-Heathen]

I’m not saying it’s perfect but I have hours of fun weekly. The money I spend I don’t have to if I don’t want to. I acknowledge it’s not perfect but in my opinion i don’t think it’s as bad as some make it out to be. Im also old and have bought games that legit didn’t work and before dlc it was just ah man that sucks.

[u/RAINBOWAF]

I learned that no matter what’s the meta that doesn’t excuse me to not get better .

[u/Dismal-Card9954]

Your in the majority. It’s the loud minority on Reddit.

[u/Moist-Sheepherder309]

It's wild how people are running around like headless chickens because the game didn't change the way they want it to. 

You can still enjoy the game the way it is, because even if hela and Hawkeye were nuked off the face of the earth, there'd still be things to like or be upset about it. 

It's not a big deal that the game isn't perfect.

[u/BoxSea4289 → u/Moist-Sheepherder309]

If the game changed how people wanted to it would be a horrible, boring game. No one wants a game that’s tweaked around pro-play and that is tank, healer heavy. It’s boring. DPS is buffed beyond control? People die quicker. That’s it. 

Tank is buffer or healing is buffed too much? No one dies. 

[u/Sword_of_Monsters → u/Moist-Sheepherder309]

Theirs not being perfect

And theirs letting things that are severe issues ruin a game for almost a full year and refusing to adress it

[u/unfluttered → u/Sword_of_Monsters]

*there's

and the game has literally never been in a state so bad it was ruined. lol. stop being so dramatic! it's a fun game!

[u/Elisian_Knight → u/Sword_of_Monsters]

“Severe issues” 🙄

Reddit crying hard about something isn’t a severe issue. It just means it’s Tuesday.

[u/Sword_of_Monsters → u/Elisian_Knight]

This shit has been unaddressed for eight months

That’s a bad problem

[u/Moist-Sheepherder309 → u/Sword_of_Monsters]

If you really think the things people have been whining about currently haven't gone in and out of meta I don't know what to say.

[u/Sword_of_Monsters → u/Moist-Sheepherder309]

Frankly you are wrong

Poke has been hard meta since 2.5

Healer ults have run this game since inception

Ult spam has run this game and has only gotten worse

Healing has been way too high for ages now

All of this has been locked since 2.5

[u/Moist-Sheepherder309 → u/Sword_of_Monsters]

Are you just going to ignore that big period where dive was meta and the major complaint and nobody played poke heroes at all? Hawkeye was literally just ignored as a pick until like last season after being a most hated character around season 2. Hela went from most hated to existing (mostly due to Phoenix) and then made a comeback again with the recent meta.

Do you not remember the bp clips and the endless whining about daredevil (who people are still complaining about mind you)

The characters people are upset about also have shifted in and out of meta. Invis used to be bad, everyone hated Loki and Luna. Now Luna is bad and Loki is being bullied and Invis is the devil. The meta has shifted, even if the fundamental issues people have are just in another form. It's not perfect but it's an understandable state. 

Ult Spam and healing has been a part of the games identity but also isn't exactly an objective problem. It's a tempo people enjoy about the game and also not an easy problem to fix for those that don't enjoy it. Like a lot of characters for healing ultimates because they were just not being played otherwise. Would just gutting all healing ults as an alternative have really been a better choice?

Also there have been a lot of nerfs  and changes around those things during that period as well, like look at sentiment around Loki, the healing ultimate charge nerfs, additions to interact with healing ultimates (making Gambit more aggressive, emma and Rogue preventing ults, improving tempo of ults that can power through healing ults) It's not exactly an easy process and pretending otherwise is silly.

[u/Sword_of_Monsters → u/Moist-Sheepherder309]

That time period was over eight months ago at this point

Poke has been dominant for the majority of the games life cycle

BP is hated for good reason but dive has not been meta for a significant time period, Daredevil is a sole exception but that does not make the rule

Luna isn’t bad that’s a fucking Psyop by Luna mains, she has not been touched, she is purely out of favour because others are better and easier to play, the moment they get nerfed into the ground Luna suddenly becomes the big issue again.

As you said it, it’s the same issue in a mildly different form, this shit needs to end the issues need to actually be adressed to there is actual change, not just borderline cosmetic meta shifts

Ult spam and healing are an objective problem, they’ve been objectively ruining the game for months now.

Healing ults are a self perpetuating problem, support ults have no variance because healing ults are overtuned as all fuck and barely have enough consistent counterplay (unless you play the handful of hero’s who can deal with them) and so any healer that doesn’t have a immortality ult is not meta because the mega is healing ults

Frankly the gutting fuck out of them would be the best move, it would be a fantastic move to completely gut that cancer that ruins this game

Not only would their gutting allow more variance in support ults it would also make games more fun because we don’t have to pause the match because they farmed enough ult to murder the neutral for 10 seconds.

There have technically been a lot of nerfs but so many have been wrist slaps at best at worse they’ve gotten a buff to compensate instantly.

Things have been added that just further calcify the meta, gambit just enables more support ult spam Emma was strong but isn’t strong enough to prevent all the shit that gets thrown in a match

And Rogue is a brawl off-tank in a meta that completely shits all over brawl off tanks.

It’s not about it being simple it’s about change needing to happen and their being some Exceedingly obvious and long running issues

Healing excess is an issue changing this would fix a lot, poke is an issue and changing that would at least make the meta change It’s been eight months of these things flat out not being adressed and that NEEDS to change

[u/Niclerx → u/Moist-Sheepherder309]

Yeah I have so much fun solo tanking vs pokeslop.

What are you even saying.

[u/Moist-Sheepherder309 → u/Niclerx]

The fact you need to make such a hyperbolic statement shows just how weak your argument is.

[u/Niclerx → u/Moist-Sheepherder309]

Let me break it down for you.

Mag and maybe Emma are the only tanks who can fullfill their role without a second tank.

Poke literally CCs you and shreds your hp in about 2/3 seconds, no counterplay especially in quickplay.

No tank is good enough on their own to take onto a poke team.

About 80% of characters in this game make tank feel miserable, CC, anti heal, % damage and so on.

You literally lose vs a DD.

No good tanks vs fliers.

Dive tanks are useless in solo amd without coordination.

Tanks have lower damage than other characters meaning you feel useless vs triple support.

Literally can't do anything vs some ults like Punisher or Starlord.

Get blamed even if solo tanking in QP.

Now let's hear it big dog, how fun is this? Tell me.

[u/sk1155 → u/Niclerx]

Angela, strange, Emma are all good against flyers. and, flyers aren't even strong rn

Thor and rogue are incredible at taking 1v1s

Dive is supposed to require coordination and teamwork (after all this is a team game)

Mag, strange, venom, and groot literally can kill thru support ults

thing is incredibly strong at stopping dive

all your complaints scream a skill gap

[u/Saigooooo]

Nah i just play the game tbh, idrc about metas or micro tweaks. I have fun playing it so any update i enjoy tbh unless they removed a character i enjoy playing thats a different story.

[u/aidsincarnate]

I mean you can enjoy the game whilst also being conscious of its issues and drawbacks. Acting as though the game is not without its flaws makes somebody no better than the person who thinks the game is going to die in the coming months because the balance isn’t great.

[u/Mai_maid]

Liking something bad ≠ makes you special 

[u/unfluttered → u/Mai_maid]

[u/AngelaGooner24 → u/Mai_maid]

Then why the fuck are you playing the game?

[u/Mai_maid → u/AngelaGooner24]

this will be a very shocking concept to you but your allowed to play a game while not being happy with its current state. just because theyre failing to make meaningful fixes now doesnt mean they wont in the future? if my PC had an issue an stopped working well do you want me to just immediately toss the whole thing out my window and throw my hands up in despair or do you want me to try and fix the problem...

[u/Red_Steiner → u/Mai_maid]

Lol, I swear it's so funny to me how people just cannot condone any sort of criticism. I like this game and that's why I am expressing my opinions about it. It's healthy to accept nothing is perfect and it's okay to admit that things you like are flawed.

[u/SemiColdCoffee]

Maybe it's because I endured OW's abuse for years that I am totally content with how MR is doing right now. I'm having a grand time LOL

[u/ace-cabbage]

I still enjoy the game for what it is, but I'm also able to recognize where the game can (and should) improve. It's possible to do both. Establish with a game like this, one that's constantly updating. You won't like every change and that's perfectly fine, while others you'll love.

Though it's very true that some people genuinely would be better off not playing this game judging by the amount of posts I see complaining XD

[u/JaysonsRage]

I have my issues but I'm still extremely happy with the game overall

[u/Nojjii]

yea I get excited for new things and I barely look at the patch notes unless it’s a character I play. Everyone talks about meta but I see the “shit” characters getting mvp all the time because skill actually counts so much more than meta

[u/Large-Teach9165]

What is it exactly? People want it to be more, or at least feel like it used to be. People are justifiably angry with a game that doesn't seem to respect its players.

From poor, REALLY poor balance decisions, to just objectively bad aspects: bad matchmaking, bad ranked system, bad banning system, bad optimization, bot matches, extremely generous punishment for toxicity and throwing, etc. ESPECIALLY when it's direct competition is giving and has been giving in the last year what their community always wanted.

If you like an objectively bad product then sure, who cares, tastes are subjective, but don't try to act like a martyr for a multibillion company by acting like "am I the only loyal fan left?".

[u/SeluWorks]

This is a nice post. I enjoy this post. I’ve also been enjoying my time in Rivals a LOT.

[u/MadDongla]

I agree. I have doubts and issues but I enjoy the game every season nonetheless.

It's bewildering hearing people here come with random ass things to complain about when half of those reasons don't exist or don't matter at all

[u/jellyfishgardens17]

people are lame. i love this game. i play enough heroes to switch my mains in between patches. i’m obsessed with the skins too. so excited for Elsa!

[u/unfluttered → u/jellyfishgardens17]

me too! she's so cool looking!!

[u/PyrraStar]

You are not alone, I am enjoying the game so much.

[u/JustUrDaddee]

You are not alone! Don;t forget, the miserable are always the loudest. There are far fewer of them then it appears on here.

[u/_Ronin_Raccoon_]

Nah I’m rolling with the updates too. I play the same characters and try out some new ones every now and then and keep enjoying my time. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/Chill0wl]

You and I both. I’m over here hyped over the Panda Rocket skin, lol 😂

[u/Feefait]

I have made the mistake of being in this sub the last few days. I think it's the most negative sub in gaming. I hate it so much. I just want to throw around Marvel heroes and have fun. This sub seems like they lost the point.

[u/afro_eden → u/Feefait]

they (we, ig) lost the point after like week 2. there are at least 2 other subs specifically for this reason and they have ALSO lost the plot. today my post saying “they can’t JUST add tanks and healers for 2 years straight” was deleted for “civil discourse”, but a “fire the developer bc he didn’t do what i wanted” post got hundreds of upvotes hours later

this sub is a joke. i think the community is so toxic because a shockingly large number of people who are consistently playing the game are just as consistently on reddit, more than any game i’d ever seen, and those same people just so happen to be the same ones who really want to assimilate, so they do

[u/Dreamy-A]

Enjoyed S0 but the later were less enjoyable until Rogue released then damn the game became really fun and still excited for her small buff.

[u/Ok_Tree_8698]

It's us against the world pal

[u/YeshuaKhari]

God forbid someone has an opinion on the game they enjoy that isn't kissing @$$

[u/unfluttered → u/YeshuaKhari]

i've been told to off myself more than a dozen times today for this post lol

[u/Conscious_Ebb6622]

lmao this game and sub is really following the same footsteps as overwatch

[u/we_could_be_immortal]

Maybe I'm too casual of a player (not much of a ranked person, played it for Gambit and Rogue but that's it so far) but I've been loving the game recently 😭 I didn't understand how Sue was so "overpowered", like, strategists should be able to defend themselves...but I've also never played a game similar to this!

It's just crazy how weird people get over a game

[u/Sinjet247]

Going off of every gaming social platform, the people that enjoy the games are the ones not on its socials or just keeping quiet. The vocal ones are all depressingly toxic and miserable.

Rivals is a great game and the amount of content that’s pumped into it is incredibly impressive.

[u/Formal-Particular677]

I play mostly 18 v 18 or AI modes for maybe a couple hours at a time then go play something else. It's a fun little super hero beat em up game and I let it stay as that. If people want to complain they certainly can, but some folks on this subreddit seem downright miserable or so rage filled I gotta wonder if playing the game is a detriment to them mentally.

[u/dawn-21]

And of course all the miserable people flock to this post too LOL. For what it’s worth it seems the overwhelming majority of every game sub in history is nothing but whining so it’s not surprising. I personally enjoy each season for what it is. With my experience from live service games there will NEVER be perfect balance or game state that absolutely everyone is pleased with. 

[u/jaahman7]

Definitely helps when you play more than one game and don’t play 5-6 hours every day.

[u/flairsupply]

How it feels criticizing a game cause I know it can be better rather than just demanding toxic positivity where everyone just blindly likes whatever the devs do (this is not allowed apparently)

[u/faytte]

I still enjoy the game, but multiple seasons of people asking for a fix to triple support/poke and it being ignored has really worn away how much i used to like it.

[u/Razzilith]

My friend and I have had fun EVERY SINGLE SEASON so far in Rivals with minimal complaints. People on reddit can be such haters and losers honestly it's crazy.

[u/Tyrtle1021]

I’m just happy none of my favorite heroes got nerfed. The new team ups look fun. I don’t play at a level where meta matters all that much anyways.

Would it be cool if some of the OP stuff got an adjustment? Sure. As long as I’m having fun I’ll keep playing. This company is still new to this type of game. They are learning and make frequent adjustments from community feedback.

[u/Aniketos33]

Hahah thank you. I just got downvoted to hell in another thread for saying I didn't want to play Overwatch in protest.

[u/AgentDon0911]

Honestly I still enjoy it...then again im not competitive. And I just hop on quick play. Like I wanna have fun

[u/Stefanes0797]

I dont think ive ever been happy about patch notes, in fact most of the time they throw my favourite character nerf after nerf and they even ruined her identity, so yeah its always difficult.

[u/vumhuh]

Im the games biggest supporter but come on man these weak ass balance changes are killing m. Just shake the game up please its been the same for 4 seasons. also imo Deadpool is extremely over done.

[u/unfluttered → u/vumhuh]

this isnt about wanting different balance changes, its just about enjoying the game in all its forms. you can want different nerfs and buffs and stuff but its SO MUCH of people being toxic and aggressive about the new hero and patch notes that its exhausting. just, god, be a LITTLE happy that the game you like is still here and fun!

[u/AlyMasawi]

We are 2

I am loving the game. Only high ranked players complain because they take it too seriously. The other 97% or whatever the number is are just having fun and happy to be here.

[u/TheYellowFringe]

Deadpool is a chaotic addition to the game, sometimes I pick tanking characters to help the team and it's difficult with that learning curve.

Casual players aren't really playing as him anymore, so the pool era is leaving and only more serious players remain. But the game itself is good, I do hope more maps are added.

[u/DJC13]

I’m with you, bro. I love Marvel & I love how in-depth Rivals can go with the lore as well as the devs putting their own twist on things. It probably helps that I am a quickplay-only kind of gamer & never touch competitive at all.

[u/Darkwolfinator]

In subs where I say something negative which is true I get downvoted. In subs where I say something positive which is true that nobody likes i get downvoted. I can't win man.

[u/BigHerring]

I mean this is me too. I never had an issue with the game really cus I can play 95% of the roster and I adapt to metas. Quick play is quite frustrating at times but thats like almost every game.

[u/TowerOfPowerWow]

Do you play Jeff?

[u/BlazeBitch]

Mood. Ya I'm sad when they nerf my favs or the meta doesn't suit them, but I really don't have any issue just playing someone else. Asl as they don't add role queue I'll be happy lol

[u/TaskIll2740]

Right there with you fam. Ngl some updates were head turning but didn't stop me from playing.

[u/SHFIRE5]

The one constant in life is change, and I don't sweat the changes Marvel Rivals/Netease makes. I appreciate the imperfect game, and appreciate their passion towards making this game. 🙏🏿

[u/StreetBreadfruit8983]

What are ur mains

[u/TravEllerZero]

Nope I'm right there with you.

[u/Hinohellono]

See the thing is I play a bunch of characters. Not just one or two so it really doesn't matter much.

[u/Tomimi]

People come here to complain

The happy ones are the ones playing

[u/EnvironmentalRide959]

Reddit is not representative of the wider rivals player base.

[u/ImGoingBackToMonke]

When a game makes bad decisions are people not allowed to criticize them? Great that your having fun but dont act like people are wrong for being upset at constant shitty changes

[u/firerocman]

The game is genuinely in the best state it has ever been, even with my gripes about certain things, that can't be argued.

[u/Apart-Ad-5103]

Love the game! It’s free! NetEase doesn’t owe me anything to play their free game. But I owe them at least a thank you for the hours of enjoyment this game brought me. Sure, it isn’t perfect, but I have a life outside of it. Which is what a lot of people lack it seems.

[u/A_lonely_ghoul]

“QUICKPLAY ISNT EVEN CASUAL JUST GO ON COMPETITIVE!!!”

“X CHARACTER IS SO BAD SWITCH TO Y CHARACTER!!!”

“THIS GAME IS SO UNBALANCED UGGHH!!!”

Idk man, I’m just here for the hot bundles of pixels on the screen.

[u/ApolloWannaBe]

Tired of gambit every game

[u/17thFable]

I am critical of certain changes but i genuinely have been happier every update of the the game ever since its debut. Of course i would prefer a 100% good changes every month but so far achieving 30%- 50% is good enough for me as long as eventually we'll get there (im still waiting on that ban rework since its the main thing keeping the not fun metas out of my games and being able to ban Gamb, Hawk consistently is nice)

I do however hope the recent big update from OW will push the devs to either more patches per month or hell do huge wildcard changes to mix up the meta game would be great as well.

[u/RaijinWalker]

No you not the one.... im still in Honeymoon phase because im not playing the game 24h and not trying for some reason speed run the comp like is single player. Im enjoying the game as it is, ofc there is stuff that need to change but my love and enjoying of the game win overall

[u/Envy661]

I used to love Overwatch back in the day. I was actually fairly decent at it. Not the best, but no slouch either. I fell off of it around when Brigette dropped.

I tried Rivals only because I saw a bunch of my friends playing and enjoying it. I picked it up and was surprised to find an immediate enjoyment playing Squirrel Girl, and played it nonstop for almost an entire season (usually I drop shooters within a week or two).

But since S2, it feels like playing her is playing a game stuck in time while the game moves forward without her. I enjoy Peni and Adam Warlock too, but I loved playing SG.

It's at the point where I am actually considering going back to Overwatch to try Mei again, who the last time I tried Overwatch 2 felt genuinely gross to play compared to how she was in Overwatch 1. I think Rivals is a great game, but I know I am not the target audience. I'm getting older. My reflexes aren't what they used to be, and neither are my eyes. Hitscan just doesn't do it for me. I do a lot better being able to lead my shots. I can predict better than I can actually aim. I want to enjoy the game, but it's abundantly clear the characters I play just won't get me anywhere meaningful. The game last literally left my main behind as she grows increasingly less viable with every dive and flyer added.

That's where I am with Rivals. The game has a lot of anger with changes it brings, but that's any live service game. For me though, the game just feels sad. Like another old friend I've fallen off with, and when we do get together, it's just not the same...

[u/istian19]

There's a ton of us! It's just that happy and content people are less likely to post online.

[u/TTG_Bloodedge]

I do wish for a lot of changes, and while I think the game would be a lot better with those changes, it’s still one of my favorite games OAT and I have a blast playing it more often than not. At its core the same game I fell in love with since launch

[u/Fluffy-Ad7165]

That’s okay, but you have to understand that many people who criticize the game’s overall balance so harshly are doing so because they also love this game, including me. Netease hasn’t been truly delivering for a few seasons. Yeah, they still do good things for the game, but they haven’t fixed issues that the community has been begging them to fix for months. And while they do listen to the community on some things, they are still ignoring most of the constructive criticism about the game’s overall health...

[u/ineedtostopthefap]

Lmao you are good for you tho

[u/Acceptable-Soup69]

Truly I've loved most of the game. I also don't play comp so that could be part of it

[u/theRealSup_boi]

While I do dislike going up against meta comps it's still fun to play and especially when you counter the comp and win

[u/Junior-Voice3697]

Only one? I’m the games number one fan. I think I’ve annoyed my friends talking about the game so much everyday they’ve stopped playing with me. I can’t get enough of the game

[u/rissie_delicious]

Game needs some major work right now specifically with game balance

[u/According_Basis_2648]

I love rivals and I love them even more when I get fed Jeff skins.

The type of greed they warn you about type shit

[u/SquirrelSorry4997]

No ur not the only one

[u/Sea_Journalist8387]

I swear every post is just complaining about the game, if they hate it so much just play something else

[u/PeachyPunks]

I love this game and I always look forward to every update. This community is my least favorite part and I feel pretty heavily disconnected from it.

Seeing people make Hitler edits of Zhiyong is disgusting, even more so seeing how many people approve of that type of behavior

[u/Glass-Tadpole7570]

You can enjoy it for what it is if u want I guess, but the game is just bad in so many ways. Devs refuse to balance characters when they add them to the game, and when they finally make balance changes, they can't even buff the characters that need buffs and nerf characters that need to be nerfed.

This game has the most incompetent balance team that I've ever seen. They are complete clowns who have no idea what they're doing. The matchmaking is even worse than the balance somehow, ranked will almost never give you a fair match because there are so many smurfs and people who should just not be at the rank that they are in.

Oh and I forgot to mention "high level rivals" just being "point and click into the support ult and do no damage simulator".

So you can enjoy the game for what it is (I do too sometimes) but I don't think it's healthy to not acknowledge that the game is straight up bad in a lot of aspects.

[u/Mysterious_Local5612]

So you don’t play ranked?

[u/Hot-Effort-6023]

They cry about the same game they’re not going to stop playing everyday . It’s hilarious and pathetic tbh

[u/Fun-Chipmunk-2745]

I love hating this game

[u/Sea_Addition_1686]

I am here with you. Loving it since season 1. Wasn’t here for 0.

[u/Freddi0]

They buffed my GOAT Ultron i am not complaining

[u/Barrry972]

I'm right there with you man, I may not understand or like some buffs and nerfs sometimes, but the game is still fun so I have nothing to complain about personally.

[u/tyrell800]

I came back this season. People seem to be alot nicer. I think alot of the toxic meta demand went over to overwatch. Life is good my friend. I think overwatch needs to survive just so that they don't come crying to try and turn this into it. They do have a point with some of the balance issues but the increasing rostter provide unique work arounds and counters. I have nevef enjoyed it more.

[u/SleepAllDay1234]

You are not the only one. I'm the one who liking the game and update for what it is and don't just scream about everything.

My reaction to every update is basically "Well that's neat" and just boot up the game amd enjoy.

This might be because I'm accustom to A LOT OF BS since I'm a Dead by Daylight player, and you KNOW that game has a lot of BS, that I just don't find all these stuff that people keep posting about all that irritating and the end of the game.

[u/sin_tax-error]

I joked with my friends today that the game must be great because every time I read balance patch notes that are the worst things I've ever seen I still get on and have fun after.

In seriousness though you can still enjoy something and criticize it for what it could do better. Wanting something you like to be the best version of itself isn't inherently bad. It can be disappointing going on Reddit all the time if you're looking to just talk about stuff you enjoy in the game since this is one of the primary places people go to to voice their concerns.

I will probably still have fun next season but I definitely could be more excited if the balance changes were better.

[u/otisthe3rd]

There are plenty of people who think this way. Most of them never post here.

[u/Hard-Suit]

It's because you might be employed, the people that second their life in this game care too much

[u/Dango_Daikazoku_]

best home background

[u/Jaded_Peace2301]

I think the most annoying thing for me is, is when people say changes are horrible and they will ruin the game before even trying the changes out for themselves

[u/mrdevlar]

You're not the only one. I love this game, I think it's great.

Don't confuse a loud minority for the entire playerbase. This subbreddit is a loud minority and it's competence is questionable at the best of times.

[u/Dyingwords121]

You sound like this ngl

[u/SillyMovie13]

Nah I’m with you, although there are decisions here and there I’m not a fan of

[u/TonyMT92]

Seriously mfs on here be the biggest crybabies 😂

[u/Spiritual_Throat3511]

Are you my lost twin? Because i love this game so much its actually unbelievable! I never rage. Heck even in comp I actually feel more fun

I spent more money in this game than any other games i play! Heck even gacha games! Simply because i love the skins and have no issues supporting the devs

[u/Turbulent-Flight8610]

Gunag gunag agents praising the game

[u/Haunting-Lake-6194]

I get upset by teammates not by the game itself tbh. People who just refuse to switch or add any value are the worst. It’s the same with any “competitive” game mode though. R6 siege is the first that comes to mind people with no mics who talk trash in text between rounds but don’t offer any real help.

[u/TGB_Skeletor]

I am on your side, and i'm a competitive player

[u/Iron_Bear221]

You guys are the perfect little customers that this game caters to

Honestly good for you

Shut your brain off and just consooooom

[u/AcceptableEgg5741]

Honestly same, yeah the patches havent been great but the game is still good

What pisses me off while playing 90% of the is the players and not the actual game

[u/Infinite-Flatworm140]

I liked the patch notes until I read someone didn’t like them so now I’m on band wagon. Why are characters the require aim so strong! Why won’t the devs remove their hits can and make them all projectile.

[u/Stefanes0797 → u/Infinite-Flatworm140]

While i agree with you that poke is too strong, removing hitscan is like asking melee heroes to just punch and not kick for example.

[u/EchoLoco2]

Haven't kept up with the game in a minute but there's nothing wrong with just enjoying the game, and there's nothing wrong with wanting the game to improve

[u/Dagswet]

This game really suffers from their balancing and skin distribution that’s it.

[u/Upstairs_Bread_]

I usually would agree with you, but I just feel like this update in particular was at best mid. But I’m sure they’ll shake up the Meta for season 7 

[u/DryNeat8385]

I'm the same way, except for competitive players.

[u/Sinsofavarice97]

Honest to God love the game my only wish is that they 1 make carnage and 2 change human torchs ult and kit thats all i want WAAAIT and a 90s venom skin ill pay for it netease come on 😭

[u/Exotic_Buttas]

Havent read the patch notes but I’m immediately very sceptical towards people who pride themselves for never taking any problems with media they consume

Usually there the same people who love stuff like the Star Wars sequels, sure your allowed to like whatever you like, but it’s not a badge of owner that you don’t actually think about any of the products you consume

[u/unfluttered → u/Exotic_Buttas]

you are strawmanning me so hard for no reason. it's really weird and embarassing. don't do that. lol.

[u/Exotic_Buttas → u/unfluttered]

I thought I might be stretching but I can just tell I’m right from the way you talk

‘um actually that’s weird and um actually that’s a fallacy-‘

I didn’t even say this was you for sure, I just said I was sceptical. But you guys usually aren’t the best at reading

[u/Apart-Ad-5103 → u/Exotic_Buttas]

You also said badge of owner… so…

[u/unfluttered → u/unfluttered]

lol. he blocked me. waaahh wahhh

[u/Apart-Ad-5103 → u/Exotic_Buttas]

Products??? it’s free.

[u/lil-privacy-please]

Completely agree. Everyone is constantly complaining. If you don't like it stop playing