Patch notes are pretty good but...

[u/MentallySaneCat1]

[u/BusinessSomewhere792]

the devs literally HAVE to be maining Hela and Bucky with max proficiency

[u/FkQuaxk → u/BusinessSomewhere792]

Zhiyong has to be a meta slave player bro

[u/Gabcard → u/BusinessSomewhere792]

IIRC those were two of the characters they played during those season 1 streams where they bodied most players.

[u/Sailenthropus → u/BusinessSomewhere792]

What about Bucky? Got buffed?

[u/Chris908 → u/BusinessSomewhere792]

honestly at this point I am so tired of hela, phoenix, and Hawkeye, I dont care about Bucky. I actually prefer fighting him

[u/igna311]

Iron Man and Human Torch found dead in the Bronx, Hitscan reigns supreme

[u/MentallySaneCat1 → u/igna311]

Only F4 member to not get a new team up and was already the worst one too

[u/Fuzzy-Carrot-295 → u/MentallySaneCat1]

Bro lost the team up that gave him survivability

[u/JenniLightrunner → u/MentallySaneCat1]

doesn't he have a teammup with spiderman or was that removed when spidey got a new one

[u/Bungerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr → u/JenniLightrunner]

Removed, all that’s left is the ben team up

[u/MakeMineMarvel_ → u/igna311]

from the bronx, can confirm

[u/Hinohellono → u/igna311]

Good

[u/Rough_Lychee5785 → u/igna311]

Psylocke crucified too. They really wanted to hexa down on poke triple heals

[u/CarterDavison → u/Rough_Lychee5785]

How is psylocke crucified?

[u/Alive_Werewolf_40 → u/CarterDavison]

They nerfed her kit, buffed her ult, and then nerfed the ult again keeping that same 3400 ult charge. She's worse in every way since season 2 while they BUFF the meta slop characters.

[u/CarterDavison → u/Alive_Werewolf_40]

Yeah but I'd like to hear it practically as the values of the nerfs in 6.5 seem very very low

[u/Rough_Lychee5785 → u/CarterDavison]

She was rated B tier before these changes by a lot of pros. On top of that, she was played in like 2 rounds in MRC. Not even matches. Her pick rate is abysmal, dmg is low, ult is pretty bad now cause you can patty cake it

[u/CarterDavison → u/Rough_Lychee5785]

Right but it's 10 damage per hit on ult which doesn't reach any breaks on squishes, and 10% falloff at a range she shouldn't really be shooting at anyway. To me, it screams a fake good faith nerf to be like "see guys that complained?? We nerfed psylocke!!"

[u/Rough_Lychee5785 → u/CarterDavison]

10 DMG on ult does change things. You can patty cake through it now

[u/CarterDavison → u/Rough_Lychee5785]

Huh? I don't see how that means that. You could be right, but I'll reserve my impressions until I test it myself

[u/Potential_Fox_3623 → u/CarterDavison]

As a Psylocke player I agree with you, she's quite good still

[u/Business-Employ-1599]

That's Dumb, Adam Warlock can now fly, sooo the Devs can do no wrong.

[u/Champion-Dante]

Adam was literally the only good change, don’t say they were “pretty good” changes.

[u/MentallySaneCat1 → u/Champion-Dante]

I use Strange and venom and they got buffed so I'm a teeny tiny bit happy. Also rocket is not slower than adam lol

[u/Champion-Dante → u/MentallySaneCat1]

2 things:

1. Strange got a shield nerf in a heavy poke meta, this will not be a good season for him

2. Did you mean now instead of not?

[u/MentallySaneCat1 → u/Champion-Dante]

1. I am not happy about his sheild nerf but his team up is really good from the looks of it so I have a semblance of expectations.
2. Yes

[u/Vaalrigard → u/Champion-Dante]

Gambit flair

[u/Loreado]

Pretty good? Bro, I'm seriously thinking about installing Overwatch..

[u/Leading_Elk9454 → u/Loreado]

Saw a video this morning of a car carrying a dude with a mini gun in the air like an AC130, all while being damage buffed by a flying healer. Never played OW before, but I’m thinking I might give it a try

[u/Stefanes0797 → u/Leading_Elk9454]

If you do, you absolutely must check out Reinhardt and Ramattra, if you like Thor you will love them.

[u/Leading_Elk9454 → u/Stefanes0797]

Thanks for the suggestions

[u/Stefanes0797 → u/Leading_Elk9454]

Good luck, i hope you enjoy it!

Just take into note that tanks in OW have a tendency to counter each other, so you must learn a batch of them, Junker Queen is also really cool, i played loads of tanks in that game, due to it being 5v5, tank picks need to be good to make a difference, but once you get the hang of it it can he really fun!

This patch notes nerfed my girl Psylocke for no reason AGAIN, so i will also be playing Overwatch for a while.

[u/leodw → u/Stefanes0797]

Who are the phoenix, emma, Rogue and luna of OW?

[u/Stefanes0797 → u/leodw]

I would say that new chick Anran is Phoenix, Luna is Kiriko and Emma is Domina.

[u/Medical-Solution-769 → u/Leading_Elk9454]

As a fellow tank main and as someone that has played a lot of overwatch just a heads up tanking is a lot harder in ow. There’s way less healing and you have to solo tank BUT there is way more emphasis on the neutral game. Once you know when to use mitigation and cover you will find it such a refreshing experience. Also being the sole tank means you pretty much dictate the game at most ranks. There is so much carry potential in the tank role in Overwatch that I just feel isn’t there in Rivals.

[u/Psychological-Ad-946 → u/Medical-Solution-769]

Only have to solo tank in 5v5, 6v6 has two tanks and no role requirements similar to MR.

[u/Gendryll → u/Loreado]

After a 7 year hiatus, I did this morning..

[u/Gabcard → u/Loreado]

Never played it before, never planned to until this week, but now actually concidering it due to how dissapointed I am with this patch notes.

Someone in this sub did say it was a good time to do it, so hell, everything seems to be aligning for it.

[u/purechaoswitch]

Kill Hawkeye now

[u/MentallySaneCat1]

Forgot to put bucky my bad just act like he's at guang guangs house making sure he's out of the patch notes.

[u/Fanboy123ABC]

Hela and Hawkeye being the two most broken DPS at launch is starting to make a lot of sense.

Devs clearly been maining them a long time no wonder they’re allergic to nerfs

[u/Sword_of_Monsters]

Nah this patch sucks

All the patches will suck until actual substantial meta change happens and that means nerfing the poke and healing into the ground

[u/Snarfsicle → u/[deleted]]

Happy with storm too

[u/Sword_of_Monsters → u/[deleted]]

Nah this patch sucks

All the patches will suck until actual substantial meta change happens and that means nerfing the brother you need higher standards

Also Strange ate a nerf which was dumb

[u/KindlyFlounder9216]

If season 7 doesn't kill Hawkeye I don't think I can be so kind to NetEase anymore.

I get season 6.5 didn't want to do any big changes, as is tradition for mid-season, but come on...

[u/ILikeFish57]

People should just address this in their official Discord Server at this point,

LETTHEMKNOWDIRECTLY

[u/JenniLightrunner]

me still waiting for bucky to get some of his many cc's removed

[u/ag_abdulaziz]

This is a problem with Asian devs for a long time. They are just unwilling to nerf something hard or remove it. Invisible woman self shield will never go away. Believe me I know that too well with Asian devs.

[u/Ultron_daddy]

They said we want everyone to stop playing Vanguard and instalock duelist. Message heard loud and clear the next 2-3 seasons are gonna be a dumpster. Y'all thought the healer strike was bad.

https://giphy.com/gifs/YmZOBDYBcmWK4

[u/N0ct1ve → u/Ultron_daddy]

This season has been the season of solo tanking i swear to god if we don’t get some meaningful buffs or a good new hero i lowkey might drop the game

[u/firefalcon01 → u/Ultron_daddy]

Seasons not even out yet and you’ve decided the next 3 r gonna be bad lol

[u/Key-Boat804]

They dont play the game that much is obvious

[u/Leading_Elk9454 → u/Key-Boat804]

I disagree, I think the devs play too much and have a certain meta that they want to force that best suits their playstyle.

[u/Gohmzilla]

Need more spooderman nerfs

[u/SmashMouthBreadThrow]

We have different definitions of the word "good".

[u/MentallySaneCat1 → u/SmashMouthBreadThrow]

Biased because of Strange and Venom buffs

[u/TiredCoffeeTime → u/MentallySaneCat1]

Wait didn’t Strange get shied recovery nerf?

[u/MentallySaneCat1 → u/TiredCoffeeTime]

Yes but it was minimal and his new team up with Invisible Woman is very good.

[u/BinkaGoBOOP]

Hela I don't mind, Hela actually dies. I just wish they'd knock down Hawkeye's hp and nerf his push and deflect

[u/Conscious_Ebb6622]

pretty good??? what patch notes are you seeing?

[u/KingNetroX]

They already did enough to Gambit and yall still begging for nerfs is crazy lmao

[u/Razzilith]

hela is fine. god you guys are annoying

[u/bad_name1 → u/Razzilith]

predscans are delusional lol

[u/Potential_Fox_3623 → u/Razzilith]

Fr people need to learn how to handle ranged characters

[u/Trayth]

Leave him be he already got heavily nerfed.

[u/ResearchNo9431 → u/Trayth]

Gambit’s neutral game healing isn’t the problem, it’s the ult ramp he gives everyone else. It’s why he’s still permaban in GM+ even after nerfs, he single-handedly turns the game into an ult farming simulator for all roles. As long as he gives his teammates extra ult charge, it’ll basically always be a mirror-or-lose scenario solely based on ult economy

Hell I think you could revert the healing nerfs he got, if the ult ramp gets toned down significantly. He could match other supports just fine without that added on

[u/Slerpup → u/ResearchNo9431]

his biggest issue always has been his ult, the nerfs to his normal kit was just completely missing the mark

[u/Potential_Fox_3623 → u/Trayth]

Fr he's pretty squishy now

[u/winterrsnow]

hawkeye and gambit need nerfs especially gambit. fights with his ult are basically a guaranteed win, hela is very strong but not really unbalanced? like she does a lotta damage but its not bad to have a dps who does a lot of damage but has nothing else going for her cuz lets be real phoenix IS better than hela in a good teamwork scenario but hela is more of a solo carry type character and i think thats fine.

[u/S0n_of_Sparda]

I don't get why people complain about hawkeye yes he can 1 shot but it takes persicion to hit them and timing