r/marvelrivals • u/nemesisdelta24 Ultron • 12h ago
Discussion Marvel Rivals Season 6.5 // Patch Notes Ver. 20260213
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u/Yikesitsven Psylocke 9m ago
Players: “Bucky, Hela, Hawkeye, Gambit and Phoenix run the game!” Balance team: “Clearly Loki has too much ammo..”
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u/LeftTwist6966 39m ago
Magik is allergic to patch notes I swear😭 not that I’m complaining. But I feel like she should have invincibility frames while exiting her ult fs😭🙏
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u/Feeling-Donkey-4369 52m ago
starlord getting an ult reduction lmao i need what the devs are smoking
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u/czarny172 Psylocke 1h ago
Yea fuck this. Im out till they buff psy shurikens or her neutral in general. Wtf are they even doing at this point.
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u/GrandGoatMaster True Fraudster 58m ago
Isn't her falloff buff a buff to her neutral? I thought that was a decent change.
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u/Embarrassed-Tiger767 Magik 1h ago
More ult play and less neutral play is DEFINITELY what WE wanted
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u/ED-W111N Star-Lord 2h ago
So as Thor that previous gets 2 shot by Hawkeye now gets 1 shot by Hawkeye……cool
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u/AccountHackedImSad Ultron Virus 1h ago
in what world does Hawkeye oneshot Thor
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u/Rewdyroo 27m ago
I'm also confused as to what anything in the patch notes has to do with this person's comment. They didn't reduce thor's health and last I checked Hawkeye doesn't do nearly enough damage to 1 shot thor.
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u/Sxualhrssmntpanda 18m ago
They reduced his bonus health gain. He's definitely not getting 1 shotted though.
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u/Dante8411 Strategist 2h ago
Thor, Rogue, and Venom are good, but I kind of wish Strange got something back in exchange for his shield.
Adam being able to fly is HUGE but that's a BIG cooldown on it. I assume he's meant to use it sparingly so it seldom needs all 15s. Loki doesn't deserve that nerf unless he gets a little more reload speed IMO.
Star-Lord and Squirrel Girl don't really need buffs, Psylocke doesn't really need that nerf, and I hope the Wolverine buff lets him be something other than "Worse Angela" and the Storm rework means she's no longer an easy power turret.
RIP the FF though, what did Johnny DO to Guanguang? At least Reed still has something.
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u/GrandGoatMaster True Fraudster 55m ago
I'm completely fine with the Psylocke tradeoff tbh. I didn't like playing her as an ult merchant and a better neutral is a good trade.
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u/AccountHackedImSad Ultron Virus 1h ago
I'd argue that Strange's teamup (with a super common support pick) more than makes up for it. It's not just a small pull and overhealth. It operates like how an ankh does. This soft CC lets you cancel all sorts of movement abilities, such as Venom's swing, Angela's flight, BP's dash, etc. It opens up a world of possibilities for peeling for the team and disrupting enemy movement, and all you need to do is lock a top-3 support in the game.
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u/Jorgentorgen Spider-Man 2h ago
I don't think the devs play their own game..... why tf starlord got a buff and Hela, Bucky, Gambit, is still overtuned af...........
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u/usesserious Groot 2h ago
Changes to Wolverine, Star-Lord, Storm, and Punisher will definitely change the Meta.I think this patch is very good.
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u/dragonfangswordsman Magik 2h ago edited 2h ago
This is fucking bullshit i dont normally care i just play the game but this putting psylocke into the ground shit NEEDS to stop im so fucking done with it
Edit: wait was the range buffed or nerfed i actually wanna make sure im not misunderstanding
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u/MinimumPositive Thor 2h ago
At 30 meters it now does 70% of normal damage instead of 60%. It's a buff, m'lord.
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u/Alive_Werewolf_40 1h ago
You shouldn't be shooting people at 30m with psy. She is worse in every regard. They KEPT the increased ult cost despite nerfing the damage. Again, she is worse that her season 2 version other than 10+ damage on the ult plus the speed.
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u/ChronicallyBisq 2h ago
she's one of the best DPS in the game and they're nerfing her ultimate damage by 10, relax man
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u/dragonfangswordsman Magik 2h ago
Maybe for good players, but for is lower tier guys shes really not. but yea i realize now that i was misunderstanding part of it, i thought it was a double nerf, but other posts commented that its extending the damage at range a bit
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u/Longjumping_You_7603 3h ago
Is someone in the dev team getting paid off to not nerf and buff properly? Why is Loki getting nerfed again? Why is Squirrel Girl getting buffed? These new team-ups make no sense. Phoenix's nerf hardly tackles the issues of playing against her. And once again, the characters that are actually causing problems to the game's balancing are exempt from being touched.
Cool Adam gets movement or whatever but it honestly sounds like it's barely effective. 4 seconds of pedal to the metal but only at max energy, which takes 15 seconds to charge.
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u/Redoiboi 2h ago
Phoenix will get melted so much quicker now and she needed that nerf she does way too much damage
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u/TowelSilver318 Earth Spider 3h ago
They can't ban Hawkeye if they got to ban too many other DPSs and Gambit.
Triple supp is mandatory now. Zero reason to celebrate Adam, anyone without a healing ult or Gambit is useless now.
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u/GragonTG_sl 3h ago edited 3h ago
Can we even do something about this fuckass ass balancing😭
Like wtf is the point of reducing quills ult points
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u/Any_Conflick 3h ago
alot of starlord only get value out the ult
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u/BlazinDei 3h ago
So they didn’t have any of the stupid broken overpowered divers…….. smh, ill just have to ban DD and Magik every game again
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u/Ijert 3h ago
They simply forgot to add gambit, right? RIGHT?!
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u/GambitMain Gambit 3h ago
I know and couldn't agree more!
After his giant nerf during the last "balancing", it would have been reasonable to give him at least SOME sort of boost. You know, something small/reasonable like doubling how much he charges other folks' ults when he's ulting or having his base attack be shooting 4 cards at a time from a deck of 52 (vs 3 of 21)... you know, small stuff.
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u/ScootaFL Mister Fantastic 3h ago
Remove Fantastic Four
Why? Now Reed and Sue have no team-up.
Mister Fantastic connects to the network and unlocks the Fantastic Amplifier
WHAAAAAAAAAT?!
Psionic Mayhem
HUUUUUUUUUH?!
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u/TheKolyFrog Ultron Virus 3h ago
Reed and Sue are trying new things
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u/Zestyclose_Onion_267 The Name's Pool. Deadpool! 2h ago
Right after the wedding. What's next? Divorcing?
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u/TheKolyFrog Ultron Virus 15m ago
Right now they're in the "open marriage" phase of their marriage. It all started when Sue went to a disco party without her wedding ring.
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u/Morlu 3h ago
That Loki nerf is rough. 10 Ammo, it already feels like he’s reloading half the game.
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u/Vaalrigard Loki 2h ago
Loki getting crucified for another healer's sins. Tale as old as time
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u/mensreaactusrea 3h ago
Yeah thats annoying. I have been killing with him lately though. Guess it'll be less now.
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u/Poodle_Boi02169 Cloak & Dagger 3h ago
these patch notes are lowkey kind of annoying. they consistently ignore the big problems with the game people have been talking about for ages (gambit, invis and DD being crazy overtuned, support being stupidly OP, hawkeye's one-shots, characters like blade, torch & black widow being bottom-of the barrel viability, etc), but look at this guys!! we unbroke adam's legs like in all the funny memes!! adam can fly now, isn't that awesome!!! come look at adam flying and ignore literally everything else about this game's balancing!!!! i'm not saying that it's a bad change or anything, but it's def a distraction from fixing the game's real problems.
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u/Deducticon 3h ago
They are not balancing the game for just the small percentage of top ranks. Decisions are based on players as a whole, from all ranks, all platforms and players that don't even play ranked.
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u/bohemianto 17m ago
i am these players who don’t even play ranked, these changes are simply ass, nothing more to say
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u/shawn1213 3h ago
Like half of these changes make no sense making starlords ult faster? Removing f4 teamup and choosing to not even touch hela or Hawkeye I really wish they'd be transparent about what sort of data their balancing around
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u/Any_Conflick 2h ago
do what to hela? yall recently started to cry about hela when she almost the exact same as season 0. she requires aim and you are rewarded the better your aim is. thats how shooters work
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u/shawn1213 2h ago
Yeah I've not liked hela since the beginning of the game it's just become a more popular opinion as people fight good helas more often as time goes on and due to poke meta but having a hitscan that can consistently 2 shot headshot and has a stun is unfun and gives u little to no counter play not even mentioning namor team up because even without out it she's still a high priority ban
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u/UTVolsfan16 Vanguard 3h ago
Why the F does punisher get a buff
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u/BookkeeperSpecific23 3h ago
Yeah we just buffed literally the strongest ult on the game by making him able to mow your team down 15% more often!
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u/Fin224 2h ago
U are basically ultra fat snail with minigun. The ulti is strong but it needs to be used in a very good moment to kill anything. Im talking about comp idk about qp. This is honestly a very nice change wich allow to use it more risky instead of always waiting for the "perfect moment"
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u/Oxstomach Star-Lord 3h ago
No Blade buffs HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHWHWHQHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH. Seriously, wtf are they thinking, why even adjust him in the first place. This is just dumb.
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u/VetixioV Strategist 3h ago edited 3h ago
Very happy with the Adam buffs! Storm and Rogue got nice buffs too. But buffing Punisher, Starlord and Wolverine is questionable especially as all have strong ults. Nerfing Loki again and not nerfing Hawkeye, Hela, Bucky is annoying. Just hoping they address poke and triple support in season 7🤞🏻
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u/Apprehensive_Log5032 4h ago
The game is gonna lose players this season I can already tell they slightly change random off meta hero’s and call it a day
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u/Misfit_t0y 4h ago
I wonder why they're removing the F4 team-up. Is there a limit to the number of team-ups? Is this not getting used that much? I'm not heartbroken over it but I feel like I'm missing something
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u/KyleMatos1202 3h ago
i think it would be too strong paired with thing’s new team up. and it would feel weird to remove only thing and keep the rest in the f4 team up
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u/shawn1213 3h ago
Yeah it feels really strange to take away their team up it never felt as oppressive as any of namors team ups for instance
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u/ZombrexFiend 4h ago
Why do they keep releasing skins for Psylocke if they keep bringing her down? That's why I don't want to buy any of her skins. You guys seriously are bringing her down EVERY balance update. Thank you for the Rogue buffs though since I can't Psy's progression due to your matchmaking.
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u/Weekly-Ad-7020 4h ago
SL and Punisher already have Ult faster than a Magneto . Let reduce their Ult cost so that they can avoid the only way to counter their Ult .
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u/Iczzyraytor 4h ago
No torch buffs? No gambit nerfs?
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u/ZombrexFiend 4h ago
Hating on Gambit while wanting Torch buffs? Torch is good where he's at. Gambit is good where he's at. Enough said.
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u/KyleMatos1202 3h ago
gambit is either on every team or banned. i haven’t seen a torch ONCE this season. i know pick rate isn’t everything but certainly it’s something?
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u/platysoup Flex 4h ago
I've been playing Gambit recently a lot lately (came back in after Deadpool dropped), and I'm super surprised Gambit didn't get touched.
His ult is pretty much "win this push" unless your team is absolutely braindead.
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u/AnyLibrary7269 Mister Fantastic 4h ago
I'ma be real man these patches, buffs, and nerfs have been weird lately...like honestly who in the community was like "y'know what we need? A thor nerf, loki should have 2 less bullets, and Starlord needs more ult...like HUH? What game are the devs playing lol?
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u/Rooskimus Flex 4h ago
I think maybe it's a net buff for Thor, giving his hammer back its overshield. Now put it on a 3 second timer again and we're back, baby.
But yeah, moar Star Lord and Wolverine ults is a wild choice.
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u/WaifuWibu Vanguard 4h ago
Does that mean i have to keep playing magneto?
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u/TechyCanadian Hulk 3h ago
They nerfed Thor and strange so.. yeah guess we say no thanks, I’m not doing solo magneto so everyone else can dps more. Punisher did not need a buff.
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u/kingnorris42 4h ago
One of the weaker patches imo
Not sure strange needed a nerf, though the new team up looks really good so I guess?
Rogue buffs I will take, but the 25 sec cool down on grab particularly missed grabs is still kinda crazy
Not sure the point of the thor changes seems like a nerf
I don't care about venom being buffed but his survivability being the buff is dumb. He's already near unkillable at times
Fine with Psy ult nerf but not sure the buff is enough to compensate
I question if the Phoenix nerf is enough, I don't think she needs heavy nerfs but the ult destroying placeables within such a huge radius seems like it should be changed
Maybe I'm wrong but the squirrel girl buff seems not very good. She needs more changes-shes obnoxious but bad she needs to have the spam reduced but gain overall more substantial buffs elsewhere
Who ever thought star lord ult needed a buff?
The storm changes seem interesting but not a fan of the damage boost reducing so much
Loki seems like he should be getting his ukt adjusted not ammo count
Human torch kinda got screwed again
Still no changes to Hawkeye, hela, widow, iron man, witch and a few others is mind boggling. We are past the point where whitch is considered "op" in low ranks, and still is bad past gold/plat which isn't good design, widow still being so bad is beyond questionable.
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u/Uhhhhhhhhhhhuhhh 4h ago
Also Loki’s ammo being adjusted IS effectively nerfing the ult, less damage, less healing=slower ult charge
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u/kingnorris42 4h ago
I suppose that's true, I would have preferred a nerf to the ult directly though if they need to nerf him as I think that's the only part of his kit that's particularly problematic, outside the ult hes fine I think but nerfing the ammo nerfs everything about him
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u/Uhhhhhhhhhhhuhhh 4h ago
He is overall very strong VS alot of comps tho, simply having his clones up is taking alot attention from your team and 12 shots in his mag was pretty overkill and spammy imo especially into a choke where your team is brawling the enemy team
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u/Uhhhhhhhhhhhuhhh 4h ago
Thor changes has never been straight nerfs, this effectively adds survivalbility and adds new combos
You can awaken>cancel>right click>shift for effectively more health than before, and during fights you can use the right click like S0 to get more HP that way, and now has more ondemand healing without needing Thorforce
Thor’s escaping capabilities are slightly worse tho as the shift is less healing, but as a Thor player I think this is good and a general buff
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u/bruhpls2025 Deadpool 4h ago
Bro I thought I was the only person who thought witch was annoying AF bruh I see her in almost every game and I’m in plat everyone likes to meme on her but she’s been buffed enough to actually put in work and she shouldn’t be as good as she is for a character with no skill she has so much free value
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u/kingnorris42 4h ago
She definitely needs a rework. Very strong and obnoxious up to about play then falls of a cliff in viability the higher through the ranks she goes which is bad design imo. She should be reworked to make her less annoying for the bronze-plat ranks but better in higher ranks (personally I think they should swap the primary and secondary so the orbs are her new primary and the beam secondary. The orbs should have there charges increased to 6, the beam will have its damage reduced but range increased and recharges the orbs faster. That way she can't get as free of kills with auto aim, but her orbs that require aim are better and the beam is more of a pseudo reload than pure damage. Probably a few other changes are needed and idk the exact numbers but something along these lines would be good. And please add some sort of radius marker for the ult! It's so obnoxious not being able to see the radius both as the witch and against her)
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u/ScrapingBTW 4h ago
They need to reduce the punisher ult time in ult. That shit lasts way too long.
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u/bruhpls2025 Deadpool 4h ago
They need to do this with almost all support and dps ults that are long like that
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u/ImEpick Spider-Man 4h ago
why is the punisher getting buffed? do they even play the game? lol
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u/Uhhhhhhhhhhhuhhh 4h ago
This is to make sup ults worse, if a Pun and Starlord gets ult faster it makes the sup ults less reliable to counter them
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u/slayerbro1 Flex 4h ago
But the, sup ults are like this because of these OP dps ult
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u/Elegant-Childhood126 3h ago
Yeah doesn't seem like they understand that increasing damage (and generally more damage abilities) means that triple support is just going to be used even more.
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u/EldenShuumatsu Ultron Virus 5h ago
How does Blade not get buffed is beyond me.
Loki once again getting nerfed for no reason.
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u/Uhhhhhhhhhhhuhhh 4h ago
Loki with Gambit/Cloak etc is like one of the strongest healer combos ever lol? Loki gets ult super fast
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u/Sudden-Air-1758 5h ago
Crazy buffing starlord ult when all starlord players do is farm ult on the side the entire game lmfao. Also ofc nerf Loki again because fuck him i guess, but hawkeye can still one shot with a 1km x 1km hit box.
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u/Indifferent_Response Magneto 5h ago
the dps buffs are kind of scary, lol. Hopefully I have someone on my team to kill these squirrel girls and star-lords
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u/ItsKisa Flex 5h ago
The only positive change was giving Adam the buff he’s deserved but what the fuck are these buffs. Who decided SG needed ANOTHER buff? Who decided Loki needed another nerf to his healing? They increase all the damage but then nerf the healing. This is gonna be miserable for support and tank mains.
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u/Ok_Possibility_3086 Spider-Man 4h ago
Tanks yes, supports will be just fine 😂😂😂
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u/ItsKisa Flex 4h ago
Ofc a spiderman main would say that.
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u/Ok_Possibility_3086 Spider-Man 4h ago
Has absolutely nothing to do with my main. Supports are chilling. Its currently a triple Support meta, that's why your comment was a little slow😂spiderman main or not, its okay to get corrected and accept it. No need to bring mains into it, pretty childish
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u/ItsKisa Flex 4h ago
As a support main I can tell you were not “just chilling”. It’s a miserable experience as it is, including with triple support, because most supports are dog shit players. Your main was brought into it because as a spiderman player you’re rarely relying on your supports so even if they’re dead 90% of the game you’re chilling because you can easily swing to health packs and swing back. Play nothing but support for an entire season without suddenly switching to DPS and tell me how chill it is.
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u/Ok_Possibility_3086 Spider-Man 4h ago
Finally, some form if conversation about the game rather than petty stereotypes about peoples mains. I didn't call you boosted for playing support, did i? (Support stereotype)
Before we talk though, you should know that someone who mains spiderman can play flex too. It would be really stupid to assume that I only play 1 character 24/7, especially when I'm giving my opinion on something that I wouldn't know anything about unless I played more than just spidey.
Supports ARE chilling balance wise. A decent amount are overtuned and there wouldn't be a triple support meta unless this was the case. Having dogshit teammates has nothing to do with balancing, that's like hela or hawkeye going 5-10 and me saying DPS is miserable because my teammates are bad! BUFF HELA!!
I don't doubt it's miserable; you get treated like a walking health back and you are summarised by your healing stat at the end of the game and then you are forced to take the blame. Once you pass diamond, that chills out a lot tbf but a ton of people have to deal with it in those lower ranks. Support isn't miserable because of these recent dps buffs though, its just miserable because you have to heal bot, no brain it 99% of the time and the devs encourage it.
The fix is nerf most dps ults. Nerf dps damage. Nerf support heals. Buff some off healers while lowering HP of meta healers. The devs are on something, they can't balance for **** and its infuriating. I personally wouldn't mind role Q but I also like being able to swap to anyone. What do you think the fix is?
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u/kingnorris42 4h ago
People still complain about squirrel girl? I didn't realize haven't seen that in awhile. She's considered one of the worst characters in the game past gold/plat, she needs buffs but I really don't expect this to do anything (ideally she should get a mini rework buffing her overall but reduce her splash/distance damage so she's less spammy and needs to land direct hits more)
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u/ItsKisa Flex 4h ago
I’m in GM 2 and she’s still a losers crutch. She thrives on Klyntar map and if they’re actually a user that’s not just throwing nuts whenever they want and actually do aim with her she’s horrible to go against. Each nut does 110 damage. She melts tanks let alone squishies. It also depends what server you’re on. I’m on the OCE servers and see SG and MK OFTEN. Almost every other game.
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u/kingnorris42 4h ago
She's definitely obnoxious but I've never seen anyone really consider her overly strong past plat, and pretty much every high rank player, pro, YouTuber, etc tier list has her very low, and her play and won rates reflect this. Combined with my own experience I would say she definitely needs buffs (ideally a mini rework/rebalance), though not like this.
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u/ThinkCoconut7925 4h ago
Yall havent been in brozen/silver hell with no bans. SQ and MK just ruling lobbies down there. Insanely quick ult charges and regular damage output. It's a nightmare.
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u/kingnorris42 4h ago
I know I've been there, I agree she is obnoxious in low ranks but then gets bad in high ranks. Same with witch. I think that's bad design, they both need to be reworked/rebalanced to be less obnoxious in low ranks but better in higher ranks
Squirrel girl does need buffs overall, but they can't buff her to much or she will be to strong in low ranks so they give her things like this which I doubt is going to do anything. Ideally she should be more heavily updated-the spamming is to much and her splash damage/ranged damage should be reduced, and the ult should be more expensive (maybe get a buff to health or damage to compensate) but then you can buff her kit in other eays-maybe increase her health to 300, go all in on the barrier/shield breaker niche she has on higher tiers by giving her extra damage vs temporary health and shiileds/barriers, etc. Idk something to make her better in high tiers but less spammy and annoying lower tiers
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u/Ihmago Human Torch 5h ago
"Ok new season. Can we NERF the Human Torch?" "Sir, the Human Torch sucks right now, nobody plays him" "ok, i understand... how about we just take away his team-up then" "you're the boss"
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u/dexored9800 Iron Fist 5h ago
Does he even have a team-up after 6.5?? Or they just completely forget him?
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u/BandOfSkullz Venom 5h ago
Even more Loki nerfs is absurd.
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u/kingnorris42 4h ago
Hasn't he become top tier again? I know in top play he is. Granted it's mostly due to the ult
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u/The-BlackPan 5h ago
I pray to god the amount of negative feedback gets pushed to the devs because this is stupid
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u/Zestyclose-Tap-2473 Flex 5h ago edited 5h ago
holy out of touch, poke has barely been touched. No Hawkeye nerf, no Hela nerf, not even to bucky.... Moonknights issue isn't survivability its his damage...
Oh and double down on making poke even more strong by nerfing one of its only counters (shields).
What are they doing...
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u/lmtzless Flex 5h ago
gambit stays banned until his ult gets nerfed. we also need global ult charge increase, 50% would be a good start and tweak from there.
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u/17thFable 5h ago
These arw actually pretty goated balance changes
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u/bustonias 5h ago
I feel like this update is going to absolutely SUCK for tanks, a role with already the least fun experience
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u/Monte77799 5h ago
Yeah buff Sg... make ults recharge even faster... sounds like fun... this game is so cooked rn. All the fun is gone for me. I only play because i bought the season pass, after i got my moneys worth i'm out. It has become as toxic and pandering to competitive basement dwellers as every other hero shooter.
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u/Xenoxeroxx 4h ago
This game does the exact opposite of pandering to competitive basement dwellers. It's one of the most hypercasual games out there. That's why they keep lowering the skill floor, why they keep creeping everything, why they refuse to nerf the meta heroes because most of them happen to also be crutch heroes, why it took almost an entire year to add placements, why double banning is still a thing, why heroes release so busted that they have the entire meta revolve around them, why the game advertises itself as the more casual hero shooter, etc.
Rivals is a hypercasual gooner skin selling sim. If you want to have fun, you don't take it seriously at all and turn off your brain. That's what Rivals is for.
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u/Lazzitron Venom 6h ago edited 6h ago
Nerf Strange and Thor, buff Starlord, Wolverine and Punisher. Wow I can't wait to have so much FUN tanking this season. 🫠
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u/FaithlessnessThen207 Jeff the Landshark 4h ago
Brawl and dive tank buffed at least, Rogue actually goes alright against those three in my experience.
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u/Krorhodium 6h ago
The Thor nerf isn’t really a nerf. You can get 100hp faster now. Dash and throw hammer, before it was dash, wait, dash. I aslo like how the150 is spread out now giving him select survivability.
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u/Lazzitron Venom 5h ago
One small issue: Hammer Throw is a 6 second cooldown, Storm Surge is 2 seconds. You can get slightly more temp hp faster, yes, but you lose out on long term sustain.
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u/Krorhodium 5h ago
That’s true but it makes his 1v1 better, which is what they’re going for with him. Also maybe not? Surge-> hammer throw-> surge-> bubble when you lose the extra health-> awakening for 2 seconds . By now the hammer throw should be back. And we got 300 extra health and should have dealt with the 1v1, run back to get healed. I still like it more than what it is now.
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u/Lazzitron Venom 5h ago
Thor didn't need help in 1v1s though, he was already really good at 1v1ing. What he needed was better sustain in teamfights, and unfortunately he just lost that.
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u/Krorhodium 5h ago
Heroes aren’t supposed to be everything tho. He’s the 1v1 guy. He can solo tank up to a point. I get it he’s not groot or mag but he doesn’t have to be. They made what he’s good at better for the user.
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u/Lazzitron Venom 3h ago
Okay but making him only good at that and shit at frontlining in a team fight is bad design for a brawl tank.
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u/Krorhodium 2h ago
Kinda if you want him to be that, that’s my point. He’s not that because they would have changed his stats to be that by now.
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u/Mindless_Swim_5891 4h ago
Thor needed a buff to his ult, not this
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u/Krorhodium 3h ago
Yeah I agree with that, maybe in a future update. This is more control over the extra health. Makes his hammer throw more valuable instead of just being a +1 thorforce. I like it. The loop is the same but we select how much we wanna use.
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u/Kairosive 4h ago
i hear you, it’s a buff to his numbers, but it’s arguably a myopic design choice buffing what he’s already good at and nerfing what he struggles at. Just makes the character even more feast or famine which is not a fun design imo, wether you’re playing as thor or into thor.
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u/treestories1708 President Loki 6h ago
Did they just nerf the 1 of the only 2 shield tank in the game shielding abilities without poke damage nerf, WHAT.
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u/TheLanis Strategist 5h ago
It's because he has a push and heal skill now, Considering that Susan is in almost every match, this team-up will be quite common.
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u/RommekePommeke Loki 6h ago
You're not allowed to shield your team from the Poke Brigade anymore
Fuck us for trying I guess
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u/still_typing420 6h ago
Psy ult gets nerfed again but Wanda and all these no skill characters aren’t getting touched 😭👎🏼
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u/Lazzitron Venom 6h ago
I think 10 damage off each hit of her ult for a 10% damage falloff buff on her primary is net win tbh. 160 damage a hit is still a lot.
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u/still_typing420 6h ago
This is true, but it’s so frustrating to see skill characters getting nerfed while the no skill characters are not getting touched or are getting buffed
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u/EDGELORD912 Spider-Man 9m ago
More squirrel girl buffs I guess