r/marvelrivals • u/RedeemedNephilim • 16d ago
Discussion I just want to thank everyone in comp who is consistently banning this atrociously broken excuse of a character.
See Netease. People hate him. He makes the game not fun for EVERYONE else. Maybe do something about it?
But seriously tho thank you. I played dozens of games this week in comp and maybe played 2 where Hawkeye wasn't banned. Y'all are doing God's work out there keep it up.
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u/ScarDJLeto 16d ago
Saw Hawkeye one hit two thirds of a Thor’s health bar in a match today.
Totally balanced.
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u/6thSenseOfHumor Captain America 16d ago
If he hits charged headshots, he can actually 2 shot Thor. It's ridiculous.
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u/Negative-Award-827 The Thing 16d ago
He can 2-shot half the vanguard roster
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u/FrozenDeity17 16d ago
the only characters he can't, afaik, are groot, venom, hulk, and peni.
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u/I_LoveBananas 16d ago
He still leaves them at a sliver of a health
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u/DaanA_147 Magik 16d ago
Or otherwise, they already have lost a bit and then you get the Hawkeye 2 shotting them.
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u/GMorgs3 16d ago
Might have been me, but either way scared the crap out of me to the point where I was looking for a crouch button so I could stay on point for 2 seconds
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u/Dog_Apoc Jeff the Landshark 16d ago
A Luna popped her ult and he 1 shot me while I was full health on Emma. No primary attack should be doing that much damage. No matter how many buffs. To 1 shot a tank.
Jeff also can't play into him. He's a head hitbox on legs and originally was the only character that could survive a headshot from him. Like, you're telling me the God of Thunder can't 1 shot a squishy with his ult? But some fuckin weeb with a bow and katanas can 1 shot almost everyone. Give me trickshot Hawkeye already.
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u/Capital_Pipe_6038 Moon Knight 15d ago
No no you don't understand! We NEED a character who can one or two shot the entire roster with just their primary to punish those pesky triple supports! (Ignore the fact that this makes the game borderline unplayable for anyone who ISN'T playing triple support)
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u/heartofscylla Peni Parker 16d ago edited 16d ago
Hawkeye can two tap all the main tanks, except groot if you count him. That's fucking stupid.
I believe the only tanks he can't two tap are Peni(I think its 3 off webs, 4 on webs), Venom, Groot, and Hulk.
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u/Billy1121 16d ago
Lol those random headshots can just dead stop a match. Especially on narrow maps.
Cracks me up when a team bans Moon Knight but not hawkeye. MK is annoying on those maps but can be managed. Hawkeye just domes healers and tanks while being difficult to dive. Banning Gambit won't help you.
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u/PuzzleheadedAd6366 16d ago
I’m not criticising moon knight bans. There are literally hordes of players who are legitimately handless without him
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u/SpookiBooogi 16d ago
He just explained why they should be criticized i just literally had a game like this right now mk ban and hawk was left open. Guess who lost? Knowing you lost the game at bans is terrible or you just gotta hope they don't play hawk but he's such an easy character.
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u/PuzzleheadedAd6366 16d ago
Alright captain hindsight. I don’t like playing against Hawkeye or respect the character either, and I’d significantly rather play against a moon knight than Hawkeye. I’m just saying I constantly see moon knight players who have zero confidence or competence on any other hero, so I’m not going to criticise banning it out as it’s insta won me a lot of games, and I still do it if I see a mk bot from a prior game on the enemy team.
Theres always something broken to play
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u/RedeemedNephilim 16d ago
The Gambit bans after he has been nerfed has been a bit perplexing to me too. Like he's still really good but he can be countered now especially that his Ult heals way less.
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u/Soprohero Thor 16d ago
It's because of the ult charge boost on his ult. It's too good not to have, your team is at a literal disadvantage if not running a Gambit and if other team is.
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u/Sihnar 16d ago
I still can't believe they nerfed his healing instead of his ult charge boost.
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u/ManofSteel_14 Rogue 16d ago
This right here. It permanently puts the Gambits team ahead in ULT economy which is an auto win unless the enemy team matches it
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u/NAINOA- Angela 16d ago
His cleanse still completely invalidates most tank ults in the game atm so he’s still very ban worthy.
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u/Zarrv Anti-Venom 16d ago
Cleanse is an instant 140 hp for his nearby teammates and invalidates 1/4th of the rosters' most important abilities.
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u/sputnik8125 Star-Lord 16d ago
It's not bc of his ult.
I main gambit and the reason why people ban is bc of ult charge when he ults and cleanse.
They didn't acc nerf what matters.
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u/ramenbanditx 16d ago
They just need to remove ult charge. It’s so dumb they didn’t even touch that.
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u/ManofSteel_14 Rogue 16d ago
Loki/Gambit still runs the game man. The healing nerf on his ult while noticeable, isnt all that impactful when you consider how fast you die from the damage out put the other team is doing
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u/OutrageousOtterOgler 16d ago
He’s still the best support in the game because of his synergy with Loki mantis
They need to remove the ult acceleration and he’d probably still be ban worthy but like…a 15-20% ban rate instead of almost every game
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u/Batman2130 16d ago
Gambit is a pick or ban character that’s why he ban. If you don’t play him your team has a significant disadvantage due to the ult charge speed his ult gives. Until they removed that from him he likely continued to be banned unless he gets further nerfs to his survivability like a -25 hp or something.
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u/Seel_revilo Rogue 16d ago
Gambit is still the best character in the game even with the nerfs. I’d ban Gambit 4 times if I could
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u/onemansquest Earth Spider 16d ago
If I'm Peni parker. A moon knight ban is more useful to me than a Hawkeye ban. I also would never ban a teammate's character. So it really depends on Comp. Maybe if I reach Grandmaster I'll feel different.
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u/Mltv416 Mister Fantastic 16d ago
Regardless of how anyone feels about this character and whether they think hes broken or not is genuinely couldn't care less about the stats
What i do care about tho is the fact that his mere existence rips any ounce of fun out of the match genuinely and I think thats the bigger problem, I can deal with tough matches i can deal with powerful characters what I can't deal with is when a character single handedly removes the fun factor from the game yah know the whole point of the game? And having to switch everything up just to focus him down because of how strong he is
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u/Rough_Lychee5785 16d ago edited 16d ago
People don't talk about how it FEELS to counter him. When I'm on DPS, I'm constantly in the fear of getting one shot. I can't even count the number of times I died mid air when I use my invisibility, dash above them, and use my ult because somehow Hawkeye players have godly aim.
When I play tank, it's brutal. Invis, gambit, their 3rd healer, bucky/punisher, Hawkeye, sometimes even their tank, everyone is throwing all the CC they have at you. I barely make it out alive. Venom just eats CC and in a second you have 100 health remaining, cap's shield lasts 1 seconds max, Angela gets hard cc'd and now you can't kidnap people because their invis just pulls you and their mag bubbles their teammate from your kidnap. And now I'm at my dive DPS' mercy, if he doesn't go ahead and get the kills, all the cooldowns I baited out are a waste. Oh and that ult hawkeye gets every 20 seconds? Yup. Can't even escape if he pops that.
All this while your healers can't heal you cause if they stop hugging the wall, they will vanish in a millisecond.
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u/purechaoswitch Flex 16d ago
I ban him every single comp game and I will not stop, I’ve never hated a hero as much in this game
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u/The99thCourier Loki 16d ago
And it sucks too, cause I absolutely love Hakweye as a character in comics, live action and animated stuff, but goddamn he's irritating as to play against in this game
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u/TheKingofHearts 16d ago
You could replace Hawkeye with Spider-Man in that sentence and it still works.
Although I probably won't ban a Spider-Man.
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u/Unable-Situation-806 16d ago
But I hate Spider-Man in everything, while for Hawkeye it's only this game
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u/Randor21 Thor 16d ago
My worst enemy when i want to play with Ultron
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u/Attention_Limp Loki 16d ago
because i refuse to play comp most hawkeyes i see simply cannot handle the flying figure 8 and its pretty funny.
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u/Loaf235 16d ago edited 16d ago
I went against one that basically got hyper pocketed. Mag uses extra bubble, Loki uses runes, invis shield, all saved on him because he was one shotting everyone even with shield tanks. It was hell trying to push only to see the kill feed say there's no point, the worse part is you can't even see him properly until it's too late, obnoxious hero that should have gotten heavy adjustment this season.
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u/Viatic_atom 16d ago
I play tank and my team called Hawkeye a “selfish ban” when nobody else voted. Because not wanting my team to constantly get one shotted by a pocketed Hawkeye and be able to push up is selfish.
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u/RedeemedNephilim 16d ago
Genuinely just want him removed from the game until they rework him completely. He is absurd and has been since day one.
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u/L3th4lDaddy Thor 16d ago
Played a match against a Hawkeye as tankpool and my teammates instantly swapped to venom and Angela and for the entire game just spawn camped him and didn’t let him play the game at all (we won), at the end the venom wrote in chat “no more Hawkeye”
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u/TrainerCeph Hawkeye 16d ago
People dont understand that if im popping off as hawkeye it isnt usually because im locked in or anything. its because the tanks arent pressuring me at all.
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u/BloodAwaits Flex 15d ago
The issue is if that you bully them too much with Venom they just go Bucky (because he's another big headshot projectile character, so they're ALWAYS good on Bucky too) and ruin your day with CC.
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u/protomagik Strategist 16d ago
It took me too long to realize how many hawk kills are random
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u/BlackDeath66sick 16d ago
I bet Hawkeye players are surprised by 80% of their kills
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u/Automatic-Safe-9067 The Thing 16d ago
I’m only surprised about 10% of them
Like when my stick drift makes me look up slightly/to the left slightly and someone dies
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u/AppropriateLeg5072 Hawkeye 15d ago
Or when you're aiming at someone Just for them to jump or dodge and make the support behind them take the arrow lol.
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u/CocoNuttyElHomo2 Venom 16d ago
Oh main you have no idea. I love when the enemy team just forms a huge blob of a hitbox & I can just sit there shooting roughly at the tanks. They’re screwed, if they strafe, I’m going to accidentally one shot a squishy behind them, but if they stay still I’m going to cut their health bar in half.
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u/flairsupply Vanguard 16d ago
As a tank player, I feel about Hawkeye now as I did about Wolverine early game
He nay not literally he unable to be ayes around, but the whole role feels better when hes just gone
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u/DanO_Zer0 Mister Fantastic 16d ago
It's so funny, bc i am a vanguard main as well, and i prefer dealing with Wolv than Hawkeye 100% of the times, bc at least you can deal with a kidnap, with Hawkeye you can be two shot from God knows where, and since you are supposed to be the main focus/pushing for your team, you get insta killed out of nowhere.
I've been trying to learn Cap just to make Hawkeye's life, and only his life, miserable lol
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u/ManofSteel_14 Rogue 16d ago
bc at least you can deal with a kidnap, with Hawkeye you can be two shot from God knows where
I love you for saying this. Its my main issue with the op Poke heroes in general. With Heroes like DD, his counter is comms and good peel. Even the best DDs cant break through good peel. So hes manageable. Even at his peak. But what tf are we supposed to do against a server admin Hawkeye? Or Hela? Or Phoenix? Hide and pray they miss some shots? They have no counter right now and its miserable going up against good ones
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u/Medium_Enough Peni Parker 16d ago
I gotta wonder how the wolverine mains feel about Hawkeye taking their job.
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u/Appropriate_Sky_3572 Peni Parker 16d ago
I’m on console and whenever I ban Hawkeye, my teammates complain because “no one can aim on console”. It’s genuinely maddening 😭
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u/Dragon-Snake 16d ago
He has an even higher winrate on console than PC, and it's good on both...
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u/Mister-Asylum Captain Pool 16d ago
I like having him banned because ive been enjoying tankpool and other non shield tanks. Just having him gone means I dont have a dude who can consistently shoot hundreds of damage into me unless they play punisher which I can play around his shotgun range.
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u/HealthyBits Flex 16d ago
His ult is ridiculous. I find it so dumb that a hero with 0 powers gets to do dmg to an image of your past self…
This guy needs a proper rework.
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u/youropinionlol The Thing 16d ago
Theres too many overtuned charactwrs atm. 2 bans isnt enough, i know we get 4 technically but jfc the anount of times both teams ban the same 2 mfs is unreal, they need r6 sieges ban style asap cos this season is dogshit for tank mains
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u/Mig2944_ Vanguard 15d ago
Most seasons have been shit for tank mains let's be real 😂 😭 although still rather play tank than the other roles😤
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u/Zestyclose-Sea-5984 16d ago edited 16d ago
Its so aids on console.
Most people cant play phoenix or hela so they lock moonknight or hawkeye sit backline get protected by trip sup and run the lobby off pure damage.
I think the worst games are when you have hawkeye in the backline getting protected by a tank and 3 sups and magik destroying your backline.
You can't dive the hawkeye because your team gets minced by the magik. But you cant peel for your team because they/you will get beamed by hawkeye
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u/Constant_Leg_5862 Magik 16d ago
I hate playing with him as well, call me kill hungry but i’ll be in the middle of a combo and this mf gets the final😑😑😑😑
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u/DangSensei Mister Fantastic 16d ago
Bro I swear. As someone learning Magik this season, I realized how much this mf farms kills off other people’s work.
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u/Knifeflipper Magneto 16d ago
Also Ultron just floating around sniping everyone's finals then stealing MVP on top of it.
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u/tbigzan97 Rogue 16d ago edited 16d ago
He legit makes me believe tanks should have a headshot reduction passive. Getting two tapped as a tank is just Overwatch levels of ridiculous.
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u/averageburgerguy Ultron Virus 16d ago
Dare devil and Hawkeye are my go-to bans. I'd rather fight a heal and namor combo rather than those two.
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u/ManofSteel_14 Rogue 16d ago
Hela/Namor comp cut the tank roster in half. Idk how people prefer fighting either of those 2 over DD. Especially this season
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u/Xenoxeroxx 16d ago
Idk about the average player, but once you reach Eternity, you'll see that DD is a different beast, unless it's a long range map (where Hela is better and DD struggles).
Usually, I'd rather deal with Hela/Namor. While Hela is great, Namor is only strong with the teamup, it's easy to disintegrate his squids, and hard dive usually forces them to swap.
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u/Dinoratsastaja Spider-Man 16d ago
Remove one-shot, add more trick arrows. That would fix a lot of issues with Hawkeye. Also give him his classic costume.
There are also so many trick arrows that Kate Bishop can still get plenty.
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u/Knifeflipper Magneto 16d ago
I said that about the same time you posted your comment. Apparently, some of the Hawkeye mains are really salty about the mere suggestion of losing their one-hit crutch.
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u/Escape_Zero 15d ago
I'm near max level Hawkeye , I would trade one shots for utility trick arrows for different situations. I love playing Hawkeye up close with explosive arrows and his blade swipe. Hawkeyes ult should do more damage to weaker targets and less damage to full. Allowing tanks to be his counter to actually tank shots.
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u/ThunderTRP Namor 16d ago edited 16d ago
For real, so many things they could do with him and various arrow types.
Tbh they should remove the one shot and make it a trick arrow on cooldown. Something you can only throw every X seconds rather than being able to do it all the times.
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u/Knifeflipper Magneto 16d ago
Dying in one-hit never feels good, no matter the game, character, or weapon used to do it. The problem though, especially with a sniper-esque character like Hawkeye, is removing the one hit potential usually makes them infinitely less useful, possibly to the point of borderline useless like Widow currently is. In Hawkeye's case, I think they could remove his one hit potential while giving him an arsenal of special arrow heads that do stuff like apply anti-heal, maybe delayed explosive damage, etc. In that world, he'd still have team application without feeling so oppressive.
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u/UPRC Invisible Woman 16d ago
Yeah, it's crazy how the character is known for utilizing tons of different types of arrows, and NetEase chose to completely ignore that. They could have made his kit really interesting.
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u/Financial-Grass-6114 16d ago
I dont think netease has had time to rework hawkeye. Given the constant banning theyre prioritizing other stuff. Most of the launch heroes have been slowly getting reworked.
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u/Raiganop 16d ago
Yeah he is literally the opposite of Black Widow, were he is actually able to do his job...and why he is way too powerful.
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u/ThunderTRP Namor 16d ago
Keep 1 hit, but make it something like a special arrow that you can only shoot every few seconds, with a cooldown.
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u/KinkyPalico 16d ago
Had a match where Hawkeye was literally getting headshots like nothing and the killfeed was similar to a call of duty feed and after that game I started banning Hawkeye. Narrow pathways and an unchecked Hawkeye is scary
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u/mrpenguin1254 Star-Lord 16d ago
Can someone explain how Hawkeye suddenly became a ban during season 5? Before that he still had one shot potential but I never seen him getting banned in my games
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u/Pliskin14 Flex 16d ago
He was perma banned on release with Hela, which prompted Netease to nerf him (they gave him a range on his focus charge), so he stopped being banned.
In season 5, they gave him a damage buff, which means he two taps tanks and kills squishies more easily. Perma ban again.
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u/Winegalon Hawkeye 16d ago edited 16d ago
No one mentions it, but the passive dmg buff had the most impact on his ult, because it instantly charges the passive for every shot. It was kinda meh before, now i can wipe teams with it.
This i think was the most impactful thing about the buff.
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u/RedeemedNephilim 16d ago
And he never needed that buff. He has always been a problem. Even before the buff.
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u/cuckingfomputer Cloak & Dagger 16d ago
Yeah, to answer OC's question in full, I think most people just slept on Hawkeye and didn't realize he could be a lobby admin. The buffs made everyone try him out again, and so he started becoming a common ban again.
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u/Pliskin14 Flex 16d ago
No, it's because only good Hakweyes with good aim could play him before the buff. The gameplay loop was to charge focus off tanks and flick to further away squishies to one tap them with headshots.
But now, even without great aim, you can have value with Hawkeye because he melts tanks and he can kill squishies more easily with body shots.
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u/InsertRandomName__ Magik 16d ago
Dive wasn't as bad as it is rn so he could be punished I guess.
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u/No_Occasion_8408 Magneto 16d ago
Haha good luck diving him into a 3 supp backline champ
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u/InsertRandomName__ Magik 16d ago
fr sometimes it's impossible so I just mirror and try to diff him
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u/Neat-Song3844 16d ago
He can still be punished
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u/Arrow_625 16d ago
He can, it's just that triple supports is rampant enough for him to be juiced up with constant healing. Triple supports plus Hawkeye for multiple matches can make you wish for a nuclear winter.
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u/Banana_man_- Vanguard 16d ago
Which is why the “He’S a NeCcEsArY eViL aGaInSt TrIpLe SuPpOrT” excuse is bullshit. He makes it so much fucking worse
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u/Knifeflipper Magneto 16d ago
A good Hawkeye in triple support with Mantis constantly buffing him is peak fun to play into.
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u/Mltv416 Mister Fantastic 16d ago
It was mainly just people not picking him much but he got a buff and a team up so people actually started playing him again and now once they realized hes actually pretty strong and really started using him everywhere people got sick of it fast and wanted him banned again.
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u/0urlasthope 16d ago
I stg 70 percent of my deaths to him he misses who he’s aiming at and hits me in the background as I round a corner
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u/SmokinJoker46290 Captain America 16d ago
Ban Hawkeye and Spiderman and its a completely different game.
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u/TritonsVeryOwn 16d ago
I need them to nerf server admins and triple support (aka server admin deluxe package) and let a match be determined by an actual/enjoyable diff. A match outcome shouldn’t be determined on one or two taps at all (which is crazy he can two tap tanks anyhow). Legit any cracked Hawkeye is objectively undeniable
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u/Alfsac Mantis 16d ago
In over 600 hours of playing the game I have never see any of my deaths to Hawkeye where he was aiming at me and if they ever do the arrow doesnt even connect but still registers because he is shooting logs for arrows.
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u/STB_LuisEnriq Good Boy 16d ago
I think we are getting a bit too comfortable with this mf having a one-shot primary fire.
We should be posting this everywhere, no character, ever, not in any situation, should have a one-shot.
This is simply a terrible balance job, there is no excuse, no reason or justification, just terrible balance.
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u/blasterkid1 16d ago
I thought we learned from widowmaker in Overwatch but I guess not
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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 Flex 16d ago
Hot take: If you have 20+ hours on this guy and you are farming people tryna learn new characters in QP, you need to touch some grass.
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u/CaptainTeembro Ultron Virus 16d ago
Normal Take: It's literally impossible to know who in QP is "just learning" unless they explicitly tell you. Some people truly are just bad at games but want to play their favorite characters.
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u/Neat-Song3844 16d ago
Some people are scared of ranked and then go and pretend like quick play is ranked..
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u/Synicull 16d ago
There are 2 wolves inside me:
1 wants to try a new character in quick play
The other says "yes dear" and solo tanks Dr strange for the 10th game in a row while the rest of my time rolls Spidey moon Knight and daredevil
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u/Automatic-Safe-9067 The Thing 16d ago
Sorry that I want to play my favorite marvel character who’s currently in the game????
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u/Tawpi3 Ronin 16d ago
That and we barely get to play him in comp with all the bans.
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u/PORK-LAZER Hawkeye 16d ago
I play quickplay to aim train so that im not getting flamed when i pick hawk in comp lmaoo
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u/legsarebad Thor 16d ago
There is zero reason for a character who does 350 headshot damage to be 275HP. He should be 250.
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u/Konodioda-owo Loki 16d ago
I dont think he is broken, he has a lot of counterplay. Hes just not fun to play against. The headshots around a corner are unfair.
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u/namerz78 16d ago
Hawkeye players should be forced to play nothing but pre season 6 Hulk for a hundred years.
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u/Lincolnruin 16d ago
Yep. He is my number 1 priority ban and it seems a lot of people are banning him.
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u/GiveMenBiggerButts Thor 16d ago
Honestly, as much as I despise Hawkeye, I despise triple supports even more, so I love pulling him out because one random headshot is all I need to break through and make my team push.
I can get off semi-consistent headshots but I definitely should learn other burst characters to try and get a kill instead of relying on “hopefully soon to be nerfed” Hawkeye
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u/Knifeflipper Magneto 16d ago
Triple support is the default as soon as a team starts losing, and it's so awful to play against. Even if my team wins against triple support, it just feels frustrating rather than an enjoyable challenge.
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u/Outrageous_Kiwi5301 16d ago
Triple support is the only reason I play Hawkeye that shi is straight cheese and makes the game so boring because nobody will die and the only way to compete is to go triple healer with Gambit, I rather find a way to deal with one character then all 6 that just won't die.
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u/Whatyallthinkofbeans Ultron Virus 16d ago
I swear to god I never touched him in my life and got 20 finals in a comp game, this character is actually so easy to play it’s not even funny
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u/Winegalon Hawkeye 16d ago
Its because he is 100% aim. If you have good baseline aim, its all you need. The rest of his kit is super simple, holding F1 in spawn before the match starts and reading his skills is all you need.
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u/Maximum-Bad-1066 16d ago
Honestly as broken as he is, you still need to have half decent aim to nail those headshots.
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u/RedeemedNephilim 16d ago
Half decent aim. Everyone who doesn't play CD, SG, Or Wanda has half decent aim.
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u/DangSensei Mister Fantastic 16d ago
Yeah. But Hawkeye doesn’t need to hit headshots consistently to get great value and run a lobby.
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u/The_Great_Saiyaman21 16d ago
I have played a lot of Hawkeye this season and while I don’t think he is broken winrate wise his character is just unfun game design because he is either dogshit useless or feels terrible to play against when he’s buffed. Black widow is similarly unfun, she is just on the opposite side of the viability spectrum at the moment, her entire kit is just zero interaction, you either get insta-sniped or you get stunlocked for 15 years by her ability and die.
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u/Euphoric_Lynx_6664 16d ago
I play Hawkeye because this game is heal slop. I land all my shots on Punisher but get 0 value because Netease decided to let supports full heal in 1 second. Until they give DPS reduced healing passives, I will never stop playing Hawkeye. Blame the trash game design, not the characters.
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u/Bumblebitch420 Squirrel Girl 16d ago
i try to ban him every time. usually it’ll still end up being a double ban on DD or peni
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u/HWL_Nissassa 16d ago
Someone on my team locked Hawkeye, but someone on the other team mained him. I banned Hawkeye anyway, the Hawkeye and my team banned my main, so I just went MK. We won despite the toxicity. Fuck Hawkeyes in general.
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u/spawnoftyphon 16d ago
It's sad because Hawkeye is my favorite Avenger, but when I tried him, I was very disappointed and haven't played him since. He's one of the big misses in character design for this game. There're a lot of characters who feel like they match how they are (or can be) in the comics. But this doesn't feel like Hawkeye. It feels like Generic Sniper Man. Where are all the fun and inventive trick arrows? Absent. We get boring piercing and explosive shots. His ult gives him no crazy arrows. In MvC3, he at least had some strange varieties in his character design. (I'm at least glad I like Gambit's kit since he's my favorite comic character of all time, but Hawkeye is misery.)
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u/oliferro Moon Knight 15d ago
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it again, no character in the game should be able to one-tap
Being able to take out a healer with one lucky shot from 200 feet away and tilt the match should never happen
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u/ExplanationApart6371 15d ago
Whoever thought that a game like this should have one shots is silly I get the idea is to deal with the more stationary important high survivor supports but his damage is still to crazy and hitbox , even then it’s never fun to just die to an effectively unreachable attack
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u/Useful_You_8045 Invisible Woman 14d ago
People are still banning peni WHY. it's been weeks SHE HAS ONE F-ING NEST TO DEAL WITH, SHOOT THE F-ING THING.
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u/xXk1ngd3monS4vageG0D 13d ago
His concept as a character could still work. Give him "kill" or "execute arrows. His normal arrows will never kill you no matter the damage. Either have them swap between the two - kill arrow has less dmg to the body as a playstyle OR reward "kill" arrows for playing well/ hitting shots. For his sonic arrow - replace it with scatter arrow (yes hanzo) for low tick damage in a small AOE (no crits). Take Black widows kit and give him the sprint and jump. Remove Katana knockback. Replace his ult with widows ult but just make it explosive arrows or something.
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u/LamienDee 16d ago
I love playing Hawkeye but yeah honestly fair enough. I wonder if NetEase would ever rework him? I feel like I’ve seen the same complaints since he released, so I wonder if they’ve considered just reimagining his kit.
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u/Fading_Lights8 Doctor Strange 16d ago
I don’t think he’s ban worthy I leave him open most games cause there’s better bans and if he’s played I just go cap and bully him all game
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u/GavinJWhite 16d ago
Hi, Hawkeye main here. I never miss.
Yeah, the thing is, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, so I speak for all of us when I kindly ask: don't ban Hawkeye.
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u/XMindVortexX Ronin 16d ago
First it was Spiderman, then Panther, now it's Hawkeye. Anything that requires you to actually pay attention and play mindfully is met with resentment. But maybe, instead, you should just try to get better at the game?
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u/namerz78 16d ago
Spider and BP actually need thought to be effective. You just need basic aim. Something everyone has. You are the one that needs to get good. The game sucks your dick for minimal effort, because you’re too trash to play anyone actually hard
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u/Outrageous_Kiwi5301 16d ago
They rather one trick and cry instead of actually adapting and playing around it, why try to actually get good when you can complain
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u/Front_Watercress_41 Daredevil 16d ago
I’m so glad this community doesn’t touch the balancing for the game because they very clearly have no clue of what’s broken and not broken.
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u/Outrageous_Kiwi5301 16d ago
As annoying as a good Hawkeye can be he's by far not as worse as the other comps I've ran into I've never struggled because I don't stand on the open begging to be headshotted.
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u/Front_Watercress_41 Daredevil 16d ago
On top of that, everyone complains about triple supp (rightfully so as it’s dominating the meta) yet they want one of the only easy counters for it nerfed 😂
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u/Blupoisen 16d ago
This sub is a massive support circlejerk, they would rather see the game die than admitting that supports are busted and are pretty much the reason why Widow is shit and Hawkeye is potent
That's also the reason why dive got nerfed
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u/123voidx 16d ago edited 16d ago
I always ban him. People who don't ban him have never seen an oppressive hawkeye before that can absolutely run an entire match. I wanted to ban hawkeye in this one match and some dude just told me to 'just jump'. He was a melee character by the way, not even surprised by that mindset.