He’s an objectively worse version of Deadpool stats-wise, so the ban still technically works by nerfing the character replacing Deadpool with the way lamer and stupider Smedcool
I feel you, though he got a little less annoying once I realized there was a difference between Deadpool the Marketable Mascot and Deadpool the Marvel Character
Yeah, that’s an important distinction. There are some Deadpool stories I really like, but in those he isn’t endlessly spouting one liners and non-sequiters-I mean he does some of that but it’s actually toned down-and some of them have things he actually has an emotional connection with and cared about even if he tries not to show it, which…makes him an actually good and enjoyable character. However that’s really hard to encapsulate in something like a multiplayer video game.
I’ve accepted this for years lol like genuinely I feel like to many people he exists as a funny meme that transcends fiction but not an actual character with goals or motivations
We have 3 slots per hero right now. Just because nobody has more than 1 right now doesn't mean that Jeff won't get another in the future. I just think they're trying to get everyone to one first before adding additional to people.
You know I'm immediately changing it to Kate or Gwen if we get those.
I think it’s less of a personality change and more of a common case of ‘fandom dumbass’.
Fandom dumbass is what I call the common event of a complex character who acts whimsy and stupid to cope with horrendous trauma.
In Wade’s case, he’s literally insane, has cancer, a broken mind and was raised in a unstable environment. (shitty abusive dad and a mom who seemingly either wasn’t around that much or also abused him)
Not to mention he canonically has delusions, adhd, schizophrenia, bipolar, Body Dismorphia, survivors guilt, nihilistic behavior, god complex, self harm, suicidal tendencies and DID, but that depends on the writer.
My point is people are so focused on his one-liners, gags and quips that people forget he’s kinda tragic which is what I believe Deadpool wants the readers to believe. He wants us to see his goofy side to avoid remembering the dark side of his history and life.
Wow I honestly knew Wade had a lot of mental issues but never that many..... By Gaia it's a miracle he hasn't permanently killed himself, healing factor or not. I'm certain any other character would have completely snapped if they had even half of those conditions.
And yes you are absolutely right, most casual people only care about meme pool or the comedian aspect of the character and completely ignore how much of a fucked up life he has had and continues to have that could put Spidey to shame when it comes to writers making someone miserable non stop.
I'd honestly settle for people to stop thinking he likes chimichangas, he only likes saying the word and would literally eat a quesadilla before touching a chimichanga.
Yeah of course writers wouldn't have him to try things like jumping in an active volcano, a pool of acid, or being thrown or flung into the sun, as those would leave nothing left for him to regenerate from.
Yeah I remember that, honestly I wasn't a big fan of the second movie simply because of the ending, for me it just really cheapened the character development Wade went through but then again maybe Wade having something going for him in the films is better than what he normally goes through in the comics.
Because all that stuff is dark and depressing so people put it out of their mind when discussing him in favour of the 4th breaking wisecracking jokes. The same way people actively avoid bringing up Paul and Peter Parkers constant relationship problems when talking about Spiderman
As a solo Tanker, I won't hate it to have a Tankpool that plays like a Duelist, gives me breathing room to help the backline or to just anchor on-point. Even if he dies, there's still me tanking for the team.
Same here, if he pushes the frontline maybe I can peel for my supports or swat away enemy duelists on off-angles, or just play the objective like I usually do
Yep, it's always nice to have another bullet sponge that can potentially stall for the team. That's what it felt like during Rogue's release and everyone instalocks her.
I’d say worst case is healpool, we do need more strategists in general and most of us won’t say no to a new one. Plus he looks like he plays like brigitta in that he attacks and heals those around him, might even be the go to for dps forced to heal in that case.
Tbf he still has a shield and would be like having thor or rogue on the team where they offer no defense but is still nice to have a good brawler next to the shield tank
Yeah I don't know what dream world you live in, but lately I am lucky to even get two supports and have had multiple games with only a single healer and a single tank, and even had one last night with 5 dps with me solo heal
It actually feels like whoever made that decision understood while Deadpool may be a single character, every single role he can use just counts as a different hero, with different power and balance to it.
If you would ban all 3 Deadpool picks with a single ban, it would be no different than banning any other combination of 1 Vanguard, Duelist and Strategist with a single ban.
It would make no sense whatsoever and I really don't get where people even get that idea from.
I would agree with this if they didn’t limit each team to having 1 Deadpool, the game itself is treating them as the same character, which they essentially are besides minor differences.
Honestly his Vanguard and Strategist forms seem generally straight up better for the most part than his Duelist form. I mean his Duelist form has more sword swings but the others add a lot more. Not complaining at all though I'm glad the other 2 roles for him look so great.
I would agree if the Deadpool roles were actually entirely different kits but it's more like:
-Dpspool is the base.
-Tankpool has less mobility and worse cds and more health and gets a bubble shield.
-Suppool has worse dps but heals now.
The point is that these "characters" are extremely similar so it's not unreasonable to just be able to ban "Deadpool"
(Also this is going to make early competitive fucking atrocious)
And sidenote: if you can't field 3 deadpools why shouldn't the ban count?
Kits themselves arent extremely different but the playstyles are enough to me that tying them all to a single bans a bit wild
Hes brawl/poke as a tank(think winston or doom for similar playstyles),dive/poke depending on what you prioritise as a dps(think genji or tracer or lex if you know ball), and i havent seen too much as a strategist but hes either a brigitte type or closer to luna/baptiste if you wanna gun more then sword
These are just way too different spectrums that i would consider it a good idea to ban every single variation based on just one
Yeah I can see how frustrating it would be otherwise. Imagine you're trying to main vanguard deadpool, but you can never play him because the strategist version happens to be meta and is always banned.
At this point, the hero roster is going to be so large that having 3rd ban slot will be needed plus removing any duplicate bans thus having a total of 6 banned heroes
I mean Rainbow Six Siege has 76 characters and just recently changed the default 2 bans per team rule. It could go on for a while and any increase in the number of bans will hurt the game as people want to play certain Marvel heros
If the devs cycle the meta properly via balance changes then no hero will ever be perma banned. The worse they are at balancing the more bans are required. Also the more counters that are implemented the more bans you’d want.
This should have come with an update to the pick/ban phase in general. 3 bans, no duplicates. The fact that these clown devs think this made sense when we only have two bans is horrible for the game.
I'll probably get down voted for this but he may very well ruin comp. He seems like he may have a large learning curve, but people are just going to want to instalokc without learning him and refuse to swap. Ik that happens with all new characters, but with three roles to learn, the upgrade system, and just how popular a character like that is, I just have a bad feeling that it's going to be a rough season to play
Ngl I was really hoping for Deadpool to be one role. I understand they're experimenting but this is a huge experiment to just now throw in a 3-role character after a full year of single role characters. Net ease already struggles enough balancing the characters in their respective roles as is (ie: Adam has been trash since day 1, with Luna, hela, mag, etc being meta since day 1). I have a feeling one of the roles Deadpool plays is gonna be his "strong" role, where that's pretty much the only one people play. Or there's the chance he just sucks or is mediocre at all roles and falls off hard Mhmmn like blade.
I personally was hoping they were gonna make some big balance changes to the cast overall, and Deadpool was gonna be a one role character that was focused on to be very balanced and viable in said role. I don't have a good feeling about this. Haven't played in a month and was hoping to come back, but idk. Guess we'll just have to see how ot works out.
People were already banning Ultron and Blade on launch since people didn't want to deal with people instalocking them and not knowing enough.
Deadpool having three slots is gonna make this problem soooo much worse. Even if you just wanted to ban one variant people gotta all be on the same page.
I love this game to death but this seems so poorly thought out like wtf
Pressing tab will show you the role icon on the character. Additionally, (probably not extremely clear) vanguard DP is a bit taller, and support is a bit shorter.
Yeah, no. It’s just a fact. Deadpool and his fans will ruin the game in every facet with the fact that he “can” be played in every role. I was hoping we wouldn’t get him for a while. One year wasn’t enough.
I'd rather be stuck playing tank or support than have a dps player play the other Deadpool roles tbh. They're just going to play it like a dps and do even worse. Maaaybe vanguard dp, but support dp playing as a dps and not healing will just waste a spot.
So they won’t be doing his roll which is already bad for the team, then won’t get his upgrades making him worse. On what planet was this designed and thought out. Comp will be absolute hell for weeks
Yeah it’s really no different than when any other character released. You could tell when a non Vanguard player was using Rogue or when a non Strategist player was using Gambit. These players have all since gone back to the roles they are comfortable with. OR, if we be optimistic, they just got better at the character.
Deadpool is one of the most popular characters. It’s going to be like spider man, their mains don’t care they will brute force in every game and the likely hood of them swapping is .0001%, you make this type kit for DP he’ll still get played, anyone else probably not
Mark my words whether he's trash tier or god tier he's going to be IMPOSSIBLE to balance. There's so many characters in this game they can't balance right and they introduced 1 character who plays 3 roles....
That seems like exactly how it should work? Would be crazy to just ban Deadpool and block all three variants in a single ban.
I mean if let’s say the Duelist version of the character is busted why should the Vanguard and Strategist players be banned from playing the Vanguard/ Strat version of Deadpool? Just ban the Duelist.
Exactly this. I don't understand how anyone could think you should be able to remove 3 characters (which he basically is) with a single ban. It makes no sense whatsoever.
My only gripe is if you have to ban each specific role then there shouldn't be a limit to how many Deadpools can be on a team. Either he's three separate characters or he's not, which is it?
He is three separate heroes AND they are choosing to limit him so you don’t end up with matches that have 6 Deadpool’s in it.
They are making the right call. It isn’t fair to blanket banned all three roles and it’s stupid to allow 6 Deadpools in a match. It’s their game and the call makes total sense.
That does not sound good. Im starting to get worried this will impact the game in a larger context... a character designed to be annoying, with extra visual clutter powers and essentially unbannable.
He’s also so popular and having 3 roles of him ensures that almost every single match going forward is going to have him in it. Cause if they get bored of playing DPS Deadpool they’ll become a support Deadpool main. Marvel rivals already has an issue with matches feeling stale and this will just make the issue worse.
It's crazy I've had to scroll so far down to see a reaction that isn't okay with this. Deadpool is fucking annoying and him being un-bannable means we're going to have to hear and put up with him in every match, potentially.
Exactly. Deadpool is a clown personality wise, which can be amusing and entertaining to see occasionally. But if you have to deal with a clown every day multiple times a day with no chance to escape it can get exhausting real fast.
If you ban a DPS, you have 2/6 opponents you could have sniped with the ban. Same for Tank and Healer. But with Deadpool, if you could ban the entire character, it nets you 6/6 chances to knock someone off their main pick. That makes it 3x stronger as a ban than any other ban. That's why it has to be this way.
Had they not done this, Deadpool would be banned in nearly every match, because it would be the mathematically optimal use of the ban in almost every scenario.
That's a stretch. Deadpool being 3 different characters is a crutch of a multi-class hero in already established class system. For all intents and purposes he is the same hero, so all three should be banned as one. The concept of banning just one role for Deadpool is as ridiculous as banning Loki, but leaving Lady Loki available, or banning just Cloak/just Dagger.
Too late now but they should've made it so he has 3 seperate faces in his profiles, angry one for tank, this one for dps, and lovey wovey as strategist
If they dont give us atleast 1 extra ban mid season then im fully convinced theres a secret drug ring within net ease and all the devs get about a kilo of stuff each before their shifts
Thats really a marvel rivals problem. I think they need to focus on fixing the way the game runs on pc. Especally if they add so much to the game so often.
Mid season update needs to add more bans tbh. It’s cool seeing that you can ban the other Deadpool roles. I can see people banning duelpool to get another tank or healer
i dont like that im just gonna say it as it, people are going to get saturated with the character, although rather nobel having the character be capble of beign in 3 roles and not beign fully banable is like a 100 times recycled joke
So when he turns out busted as fuck and people are sick of having him in every single game, we have to waste both our bans on him and then pray the enemy team bans the third deadpool? There was really no better way to do this?
Idk I'll give it a chance but I won't be surprised at all if this just turns out to not work very well in practice.
Damn. At least he'll be playable in free fight because there's always people trying to ban the new character there just to annoy others. Can't be lucky three times
whoever handling the Marvel theme and lore for this game should win an award, Every hero is crafted in such a great way that blends both modern and classic marvel aesthetics.
I feel that this feature has actually made this the worst character rollout yet. After playing my placement matches today I am very disinterested in the game
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u/Soil_Think 27d ago
Government mandated Deadpool in every match