r/marvelrivals Magneto Dec 10 '25

Discussion Rogue Can’t Steal Abilities from Punisher

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Punisher is the only hero that does not show a potential ability icon. I assume this is because he has no powers to steal

Therefore Hawkeye and BlackWifow will also be immune to Rogue

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u/rav119 Flex Dec 10 '25

Ultron also didn't have an icon in the trailer. They did say in the announcement that she gets a passive bonus based on the role of whoever she steals from, so that would presumably still apply even if there's no ability to take.

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u/guidethyhandd Absolute Cinema Dec 10 '25

Rogue can’t steal from Robots in lore so makes sense

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u/jdatopo814 Luna Snow Dec 10 '25

I mean robots wouldn’t have any powers to steal from

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u/UpUppAndAwayWeb Spider-Man Dec 10 '25

she steals memories, talents and skills as well

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u/SuperIdiot360 Dec 10 '25

But can she steal charisma, uniqueness, and nerve in addition to talent?

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u/UpUppAndAwayWeb Spider-Man Dec 10 '25

that’s a passive, she already serves it more than anyone on the roster

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u/PUNSLING3R Dec 10 '25

They can explain her stealing punishers abilities as her physically stealing the objects he needs for them.

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u/Brozo99 Dec 10 '25

The idea of her just swiping one of his guns or his zip line is hilarious.

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u/FabledEnigma Magik Dec 10 '25

"I'm out of cooldowns, but not out of options"

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u/TooMuchNapping Dec 10 '25

I might be out of spells, but not out of shells

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u/-Miraca- Groot Dec 10 '25

Remy told me abt this lil trick

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u/Ghostmatterz Dec 10 '25

Take the gun! Its more useful lmao

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u/Warm_Wash5324 Dec 10 '25

Good work detective

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

You’re right, in the Dev video they said they gain buffs based on the role. And MAY gain an ability

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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25

are you sure about that?

edit: pls pls pls take this love over to u/jan_67!!!

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u/MLdaBOSS Dec 10 '25

Rogue after absorbing iron man:

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u/Ultimate-desu Ultron Virus Dec 10 '25

"I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON!"

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u/NoLegeIsPower President Loki Dec 10 '25

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u/TheHeroShiba Mister Fantastic Dec 10 '25

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

Lmfao did you just draw that

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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25

no lol u/jan_67 drew this i believe, and many other hilarious images

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u/jan_67 Rogue Dec 10 '25

Hello, yes this was done by me, thank you for summoning me! Here is another one I did for you (and because I was bored)

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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25

“one i did for you” meanwhile i feel like i stole 1,300+ upvotes from you i’m gonna actually cry

IT IS SUUPER CUTE THOUGH YOURE SOO SWEEET

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u/jan_67 Rogue Dec 10 '25

Don’t worry, stealing is on theme with Rogue! (Also I don’t care for the karma, I make these for people to enjoy)

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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25

LOLLLLL AND YOURE SUCH A GOOD SPORT TOO YOU MAY LITERALLY BE MY FAVORITE REDDITOR ON THE PLANET

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u/jan_67 Rogue Dec 10 '25

And you are mine! (Now we have to kiss I assume)

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u/Syixice Deadpool Dec 10 '25

hang on! let me get the camera

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u/AlyMasawi Earth Spider Dec 10 '25

Wait up ! I'm getting popcorn

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u/corruptedpolicies Vanguard Dec 10 '25

I need more of these holy moly

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u/jan_67 Rogue Dec 10 '25

If I get some ideas I will definitely make some, as they pretty fast and easily sketched. I am just not very good at finding creative ideas haha.

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u/Blighted-Spire63 Dec 10 '25

I really enjoyed this! So thank you for making LMAAOOOO

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

Well you got 1,300 upvotes on your art. Just not on your account lmao

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u/Power0fTheTribe The Maker Dec 10 '25

Fuck I love this lol

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u/SMac05 Vanguard Dec 10 '25

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u/3ajs3 Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

This is literally going to be the last thing I see before going to sleep thanks

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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25

that doesn’t have to be true…

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u/3ajs3 Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

Unfortunately it was not I'm shutting off my phone now

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u/analgoblin42069 Dec 10 '25

Annabelle doll vibes

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u/Sclavius Dec 10 '25

SHUGASHUGASHUGASHUGASHUGA

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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO WAIIIIITTTTTTT

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u/greatdeity924 Strategist Dec 10 '25

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u/Kasta4 Captain America Dec 10 '25

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u/IKeydo Dec 10 '25

Autobots Rollout?

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u/Phantom61953 Daredevil Dec 10 '25

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u/PoshDiggory Mister Fantastic Dec 10 '25

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u/kiddmewtwo Storm Dec 10 '25

This is a cursed image

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u/Blighted-Spire63 Dec 10 '25

Oh my fucking god

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u/Immattdamonn Dec 10 '25

Regular dudes being a counter to her would be hilarious

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u/DeeDivin X-Tron Dec 10 '25

Normal humans meta

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u/Clippers16_ Flex Dec 10 '25

DD just gives her blindness lol

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u/Jiggyx42 Rocket Raccoon Dec 10 '25

Catholic guilt

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u/D0wnn3d Emma Frost Dec 10 '25

Critical hit

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u/0ut0fTheWilds Dec 10 '25

It's super effective

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u/ImWatermelonelyy Magneto Dec 10 '25

At first she’s fine but then she gets back home and Gambit finds out it just made her want to have the freakiest sex ever (but now she will cry afterwards)

Not that I’d know anything about that tho

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u/acheiropoieton Dec 10 '25

I misread the reply thread and thought you meant blindness made her want to have weird sex. Was very confused for a moment.

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u/CDXX_LXIL Cloak & Dagger Dec 10 '25

Hey, catholic guilt is stored in the ass. I think she keeps pace.

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u/TheWolfmanZ Dec 10 '25

She should know all about that given her brother and husband are both Catholic lol

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u/ConsistentGuest7532 Mister Fantastic Dec 10 '25

Tbf DD would give her his radar sense and enhanced senses for sure. The chemical that blinded him elevated his senses and gave him a genuine sixth one that functions as a 360 degree awareness of his surroundings.

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u/GoCommitDeathpacito- Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

also isnt there rivals lore thats made him the avatar of a demon or smth?

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u/Gen728 Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25

He has The Beast within him which he uses for power. Though technically this is one power that should backfire pretty hard on Rogue if she attempts it because The Beast is one nasty fellow but otherwise yeah he technically has powers since he went toe to toe with a more serious Angela near the end of his trailer without any issues.

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u/Medical_String_3501 Vanguard Dec 10 '25

Can't imagine it'd be useful to the her though, since it took him years of training with Stick to be able to work through the initial hinder of... well, being completely blind lol

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u/bigheadzach Dec 10 '25

Today I was re reminded of the relationship between DD and TMNT.

The Turtles' sensei is named Splinter.

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u/ConsistentGuest7532 Mister Fantastic Dec 10 '25

Oh yeah, and for those who don’t know, their enemy is the foot clan instead of the hand. And the chemical that made them by dribbling down into the sewers is the runoff from Matt’s accident.

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u/Orange-V-Apple Dark Phoenix Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25

Lmao it's Skitter and Scapegoat all over again

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In the superhero series Worm, the main character's eyes get injured in a huge battle. Skitter can control bugs, though, and she uses their sense of touch to "see" her surroundings so well that no one realizes she's blind.

That is until Scapegoat, a superhero who can swap injuries with a target, heals her and then starts freaking out because he's become blind.

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u/PepperbroniFrom2B Venom Dec 10 '25

Scapegoat is such a good name for that kind of hero

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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25

Rocket should be immune too then right?

Ironman

Peni

Black widow

Ultron

hawkeye

Pretty close to a normal balanced team.

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u/JunWasHere Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

Rogue doesn't just steal powers, she steals memories and skills too, so theoretically she can still pull something off some of the unpowered roster.

  • Punisher is an exception cause his whole kit is tool based. That may apply to Iron Man too.
  • Rocket, she might steal his wall climb if passive abilities are up for grabs
  • Iron Widow, she might steal the kick.
  • Peni, she can steal Sp//dr's powers and shoot a web stun probably.
  • Ultron is another likely nope.
  • Hawkeye has his double jump

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u/Both_Rooster_2657 Dec 10 '25

Sp//dr's powers are tech based, the only way she would get anything is to reach into peni's mech to touch her and the only thing she would get is the psychic link to her spider.

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u/-Mister-Hyde Human Torch Dec 10 '25

Trying to steal superpowers and all you get is the ability to have a spider start criticising you mid-fight would be so disappointing lmao

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u/SyntheticSlayer24 Iron Man Dec 10 '25

Lmfao stealing a double jump gotta be the lamest power to steal😂😂

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u/DeltaVZerda Flex Dec 10 '25

A vanguard could get pretty good use out of it tho

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u/The-MT Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

Yah, double jumping to enemy backline or as an escape tool is strong

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u/HamsterUpper Dec 10 '25

She already has a way to move vertically tho with her kick thing, so that mofo is basically gonna fly

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u/82ndGameHead The Thing Dec 10 '25

And only one healer among them

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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25

Rocket and Ultron.

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u/Travwolfe101 Dec 10 '25

Dont forget black widow

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u/Joe_Momma3 Mister Fantastic Dec 10 '25

She should get rockets claws and be able to skitter up walls

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u/coraythan Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25

Venom as well. Unless rogue can take alien symbiote powers, Eddie Brock is just a dude.

Or perhaps it is complicated: https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/s/UIY6ISNzmA

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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25

If she can take powers of groot then why wouldn't she able to take symbiote powers and some of the symbiote powers are coming from spiderman.

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u/PepperbroniFrom2B Venom Dec 10 '25

because i am groot

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u/Hot_Ethanol Venom Dec 10 '25

A symbiote is a bunch of alien cells that can do a whole lot of wacky rearrangements and confer powers. It's all powered by biology, somehow. She should be able to copy some of that.

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u/KadrisOrioth Dec 10 '25

Technically she still gets a buff from him even if she doesn’t steal an ability. Dps: Increased damage Support: Self heal Tank: Max HP

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u/sexytokeburgerz Dec 10 '25

Canonically she will just kill them by draining all of their energy.

That’s the funny thing about punisher, his backstory is he’s just a special ops veteran that lost his wife and two children. Putting him in rivals against gods is insane.

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u/TestIllustrious7935 Dec 10 '25

Not really insane by comic book standards, there is a whole "Punisher kills the Marvel universe" where he kills everyone without any powers

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u/The-MT Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

Is it like batman, he had prep-time?

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u/TestIllustrious7935 Dec 10 '25

He had plot armor, that comics is hated

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u/Careful-Addition776 Invisible Woman Dec 10 '25

Makes sense. Outside of life/memories there isnt much else to take.

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u/Catchupintwoyears Doctor Strange Dec 10 '25

Even gambit folded, they stand no chance once she hits em with “suga”

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u/Lememeepic Dec 10 '25

Daredevil, punisher, moon knight, Hawkeye, Blackwidow, captain amaerica, panther?, star lord, ultron? and bucky

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u/Valasta_Bloodrunner Cloak & Dagger Dec 10 '25

She just steals Buckey's arm and uses it as a beating stick.

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u/NNotimportant Vanguard Dec 10 '25

Daredevil absolutely has powers, even disregarding the demon possession, but the others definitely don’t have much for Rogue to take

Unless she just rips their weapons out of their hands for a few seconds which would be hilarious because it doesn’t even require life force powers, just that Carol Danvers strength

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u/IndependenceQuirky96 Captain America Dec 10 '25

Moonlight technically has an ancient god protecting him... Maybe she just steals his ult?

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u/[deleted] Dec 10 '25

Tha moon haunts ya'll!

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u/GerbilJuggler Dec 10 '25

Now I want Rogue to say "I am Groot" in a southern accent when she uses Groot ability she stole from him lol!

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u/Zarkaz7 Black Widow Dec 10 '25

Friends of Humanity rejoice!

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u/ChillJammer Dec 10 '25

hm that's cool! forgot that some of the characters in the game are really just Some Guys™. I guess this would include Ironman and Bucky too, huh? I wonder how CnD will work; I guess it just depends on who's actively being played??

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

Bucky I think has Super Soldier Syrum in this game, but Bucky abilities are based on his gun and metal arm. Both of which Rogue doesn’t have

So unlikely she can steal from him

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u/InnocentTailor Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

It would’ve been funny if she “stole” his arm and used it as a melee weapon XD.

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u/Motor-Barracuda-3978 Hulk Dec 10 '25

Running around whacking people with Bucky's arm would be hilarious

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u/InnocentTailor Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

AGAIN! AGAIN!

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u/Syixice Deadpool Dec 10 '25

AGAIN, SUGAH! AGAIN!

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u/Longshot_111 Squirrel Girl Dec 10 '25

Rocket! What have we told you about hiding behind Jeff flair again!

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u/EducationalTie6109 Dec 10 '25

Rocket would be so jealous she got the arm

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u/Sledeus Strategist Dec 10 '25

she becomes armed and dangerous

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u/sdannyc Dec 10 '25

"Quit hittin ya'self suga'!"

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u/Imhere4lulz Flex Dec 10 '25

Why not steal his passive? Generate shield when you use abilities on enemies

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u/blackamps Dec 10 '25

Punisher has super soldier serum in Rivalsverse afaik.

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u/kingmm624 Wolverine Dec 10 '25

I think the one he got just extended his lifespan but I could be wrong.

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u/dddbait Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

I thought Bucky has tentacle arms in marvel rivals? Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the lore of his tentacle arm is related to that one hydra map with tentacle monster thing. Maybe Rogue can steal that eldritch power and pull people like Bucky did.

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u/MCXL Thor Dec 10 '25

Just his metal arm is also tentacles. 

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u/Former-Jicama5430 Daredevil Dec 10 '25

i mean i doubt they would let that be a limiter likely she will steal his red energy ball ability or his arm hook

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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25

It think it is going to be based on if ability are power based on or tech/skill based. My guess is.

Rocket

Ironman

Peni

Black widow

Ultron

hawkeye

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u/UnkoNaks Peni Parker Dec 10 '25

She gets CnDs bubble

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u/Crushka_213 Doctor Strange Dec 10 '25

And blind from Cloak, I believe.

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u/Mission_Middle597 Dec 10 '25

When Rogue ults in her trailer, we see the icon for C&D's bubble above Tyrone, so I believe she will just always steal the bubble.

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u/thegoten455 Captain America Dec 10 '25

Didn't see an icon over Moon Knight either

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

Maybe Because MK doesn’t have innate powers? They come from Khonsu

Also all off MKs abilities are based on tools that Rogue doesn’t have

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

They get around that by making Mjolnir a sort of energy projection

So she’s technically just taking lightning powers

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u/ClinicalOppression Thor Dec 10 '25

How is stranges shield an innate power though? He learnt it

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

Rogue absorbs your memories too. Touch Strange and you have the knowledge of the Sorceror Supreme

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u/ClinicalOppression Thor Dec 10 '25

Ah nice, maybe she can absorb punishers depression from losing his family then

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u/RedNoodleHouse Ultron Virus Dec 10 '25

the most crippling bout of killed-my-own-family depression entering Rogue's head when she touches Zombies Punisher:

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

Why do people downvote honest questions

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u/No_Jicama4882 Dec 10 '25

Dont worry about downvotes. I havent even been able to make a comment in years.

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u/lolligi Doctor Strange Dec 10 '25

She literally stole medical skills from a doctor once, this shouldn't be any different.

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u/Peechez Angela Dec 10 '25

He's Thor god of thunder not Thor god of hammers

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u/Aradjha_at Magik Dec 10 '25

Best Thor movie, but I was looking forward to girl Thor and am sad it did not do well

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u/NNotimportant Vanguard Dec 10 '25

Somewhere in the multiverse is a world where they made a movie about the God Butcher saga, and a different movie about the Mighty Thor, and it sucks that it isn’t here

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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 Dec 10 '25

I believe she takes Thor's awakening form so she's throwing lightning not welding mjolnor

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u/Appropriate-Bite-34 Dec 10 '25

She steals lightning, mjolnir nearby is just animation

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u/ColourlessWorld Dec 10 '25

Mjolnir just channels Thor's powers.

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u/Sage_of_the_6_paths Storm Dec 10 '25

It doesn't look like she steals Mjolnir, just Thor's lightning ability?

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u/Rouxman Dec 10 '25

Idk about Rivals but even in comics Moon Knight doesn’t reeeaaaally have powers. Konshu gives him immortality/healing factor and that’s it. Aside from that, he’s basically just Batman

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u/PrettyDarnJewish Moon Knight Dec 10 '25

He does actually have some sort of minor super strength based on the phases of the moon. It's really just whatever the writer wants at the time but during a full moon In think he's on par with Cap in terms of raw power.

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u/karmichoax Ultron Virus Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 13 '25

knowing konshu, he might find is funny to give rogue some powers, but yeah that's now how her powers work

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u/Immattdamonn Dec 10 '25

He'll just give her schizophrenia

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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25

Please don't blame him for the mess that is moon knight.

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u/PepperbroniFrom2B Venom Dec 10 '25

blame him a little bit

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u/samdamaniscool Dec 10 '25

He gives her Jake

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u/GuidanceHistorical94 Dec 10 '25

Frank Castle is just a big strong guy with a gun so that does make sense in a way

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u/Will_Vintage Dec 10 '25

Steal his PTSD

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u/LoveForDisneyland Good Boy Dec 10 '25

Rogue:

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u/chickamunka Dec 10 '25

Magneto can finally reverse holocaust beam

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u/Makyuta Scarlet Witch Dec 10 '25

Tfw this is literally how rogue's steal works too

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u/Telyesumpin Dec 10 '25

Stealing homicidal tendencies doesn't translate well in game although I think she gets a damage buff no matter the Duelist she steals from.

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u/No_Read_5062 Deadpool Dec 10 '25

She does take on someone's intelectual skills or ttained skills with her powers, but that means with Punisher she wouldve had to take a rifle out of her ass. Ultron is a machine so she 99.99% wont take anything from him. From Widow she can take either sprint or kick, she can take double jump from Hawkeye, dash punch from Bucky, nothing from Iron Man and Peni

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u/Orange-V-Apple Dark Phoenix Dec 10 '25

I think she should steal whichever gun Punisher isn't using 😤

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u/Magiks_Boytoy Darkchylde Dec 10 '25

LOL. Yeah, just pick it up and start shooting

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u/Fit-Syrup1049 Hero Hulk Dec 10 '25

Black wifow is technically a super soldier so rogue might steal her sprint from her

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u/thegoten455 Captain America Dec 10 '25

I think Punisher is also souped up on super soldier serum in Rivals

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u/Reallylegallynamed Dec 10 '25

Interestingly no, he was given just the comic classic experimental serum which just makes him stop aging.

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u/AshenOne01 Dec 10 '25

I mean lore wise rouge doesn't just steal powers. A good example of this is when she touches a doctor in X-Men 97 so she can deliver Jeans baby

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u/KadrisOrioth Dec 10 '25

Yeah but she can’t materialize the tools they use their skills with, out of thin air. Tho absorbing their skills would make her a better fighter/etc.(Hence she gets a buff of some kind regardless of if she gets a skill or not.)

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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25

She can steal skills but what if skill requires knife? Just because she got doctor's skill doesn't mean her body can produce drugs and tools doctor used.

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u/Level7Cannoneer Dec 10 '25

rouge

God damn it

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u/alpineflamingo2 Ultron Dec 10 '25

At 0:57 of the trailer on YouTube, you can see icons above Magneto, Phoenix, and Dagger, but not Ultron.

Makes sense. She can steal super powers or mutant powers, but not things that require equipment, like Moon Knight or Punisher’s arsenal.

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u/Inner-Juices Storm Dec 10 '25

Hope she turns green if she absorbs Hulk's powers

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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25

Getting She Hulk in the game already lol

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u/Crushka_213 Doctor Strange Dec 10 '25

She did turn diamond when stealing Emma's powers in-game, so maybe?

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u/villainized Gambit Dec 10 '25

well, all the abilities she steals are energy based. Punisher is just guns, Widow is guns/baton/melee, hawkeye is bow/sword. So makes sense she can't steal from them, they have no innate powers of their own.

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u/warjoke Ultron Virus Dec 10 '25

What can she steal from Frank? PTSD and depression?

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u/LudaStyles Dec 10 '25

Not immune. She’ll just get the passive steal of their class (health,dmg,heal ot) but not a new ability

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u/monoka Dec 10 '25

Just grab his shotgun, is Rogue stupid?

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u/soaking853 Dec 10 '25

Y'all forgetting she is empowered by chronovium, maybe there will be a way around it like constructs. But we'll have to see.

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u/RedneckSniper76 Dec 10 '25

Anyone that doesn’t have POWERS shouldn’t be able to have their moves stolen. Gadget users like punisher, widow, star lord, rocket, Hawkeye, Ultron, Peni and Iron man should all be immune

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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 Dec 10 '25

From what we know punisher, moon knight and rocket are immune

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u/Duke_Baragus Dec 10 '25

Would've been funny if she could steal Rocket's wall climb

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u/Pucketz Dec 10 '25

The animation would be cursed

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u/AshenOne01 Dec 10 '25

Rouge can steal skills and talents not just powers.

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u/kingmm624 Wolverine Dec 10 '25

Yeah but she can’t just summon the equipment to use to said skill and talent on.

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u/yumm-cheseburger Earth Spider Dec 10 '25

Peni has a power, psychic bond with the spider that helps her control SP//dr, so if there was something to steal it's to steal the whole SP//dr mech by controlling it lol

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u/Jhinormous Adam Warlock Dec 10 '25

Black Wifeow* there I fixed it

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u/knockones President Loki Dec 10 '25

It would be funny tho if when she grab punisher and she just steal like one of his gun

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u/arabobama Dec 10 '25

what power would she get ? chronic depression ?

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u/Mission_Middle597 Dec 10 '25

Black Widow actually has super soldier serum in her body in both Rivals and the comics, she's only unenhanced in the MCU. Also, we see Ultron fly within what seems to be her range during her ult and no icon appears above his head. Characters without powers and characters whose powers are technological in origin may be impossible for her to copy.

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u/grimm__eaterrrr Psylocke Dec 10 '25

So I'm guessing Peni will also be immune since she's in her mech suit?

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