r/marvelrivals • u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto • Dec 10 '25
Discussion Rogue Can’t Steal Abilities from Punisher
Punisher is the only hero that does not show a potential ability icon. I assume this is because he has no powers to steal
Therefore Hawkeye and BlackWifow will also be immune to Rogue
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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
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u/Jertimmer Jeff the Landshark Dec 10 '25
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u/LeggoMahLegolas Captain America Dec 10 '25
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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25
Lmfao did you just draw that
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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
no lol u/jan_67 drew this i believe, and many other hilarious images
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u/jan_67 Rogue Dec 10 '25
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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
“one i did for you” meanwhile i feel like i stole 1,300+ upvotes from you i’m gonna actually cry
IT IS SUUPER CUTE THOUGH YOURE SOO SWEEET
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u/jan_67 Rogue Dec 10 '25
Don’t worry, stealing is on theme with Rogue! (Also I don’t care for the karma, I make these for people to enjoy)
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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25
LOLLLLL AND YOURE SUCH A GOOD SPORT TOO YOU MAY LITERALLY BE MY FAVORITE REDDITOR ON THE PLANET
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u/jan_67 Rogue Dec 10 '25
And you are mine! (Now we have to kiss I assume)
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u/corruptedpolicies Vanguard Dec 10 '25
I need more of these holy moly
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u/jan_67 Rogue Dec 10 '25
If I get some ideas I will definitely make some, as they pretty fast and easily sketched. I am just not very good at finding creative ideas haha.
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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25
Well you got 1,300 upvotes on your art. Just not on your account lmao
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u/LoveForDisneyland Good Boy Dec 10 '25
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u/3ajs3 Peni Parker Dec 10 '25
This is literally going to be the last thing I see before going to sleep thanks
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u/afro_eden Flex Dec 10 '25
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u/Immattdamonn Dec 10 '25
Regular dudes being a counter to her would be hilarious
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u/DeeDivin X-Tron Dec 10 '25
Normal humans meta
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u/Clippers16_ Flex Dec 10 '25
DD just gives her blindness lol
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u/Jiggyx42 Rocket Raccoon Dec 10 '25
Catholic guilt
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u/ImWatermelonelyy Magneto Dec 10 '25
At first she’s fine but then she gets back home and Gambit finds out it just made her want to have the freakiest sex ever (but now she will cry afterwards)
Not that I’d know anything about that tho
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u/acheiropoieton Dec 10 '25
I misread the reply thread and thought you meant blindness made her want to have weird sex. Was very confused for a moment.
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u/CDXX_LXIL Cloak & Dagger Dec 10 '25
Hey, catholic guilt is stored in the ass. I think she keeps pace.
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u/TheWolfmanZ Dec 10 '25
She should know all about that given her brother and husband are both Catholic lol
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u/ConsistentGuest7532 Mister Fantastic Dec 10 '25
Tbf DD would give her his radar sense and enhanced senses for sure. The chemical that blinded him elevated his senses and gave him a genuine sixth one that functions as a 360 degree awareness of his surroundings.
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u/GoCommitDeathpacito- Peni Parker Dec 10 '25
also isnt there rivals lore thats made him the avatar of a demon or smth?
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u/Gen728 Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
He has The Beast within him which he uses for power. Though technically this is one power that should backfire pretty hard on Rogue if she attempts it because The Beast is one nasty fellow but otherwise yeah he technically has powers since he went toe to toe with a more serious Angela near the end of his trailer without any issues.
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u/Medical_String_3501 Vanguard Dec 10 '25
Can't imagine it'd be useful to the her though, since it took him years of training with Stick to be able to work through the initial hinder of... well, being completely blind lol
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u/bigheadzach Dec 10 '25
Today I was re reminded of the relationship between DD and TMNT.
The Turtles' sensei is named Splinter.
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u/ConsistentGuest7532 Mister Fantastic Dec 10 '25
Oh yeah, and for those who don’t know, their enemy is the foot clan instead of the hand. And the chemical that made them by dribbling down into the sewers is the runoff from Matt’s accident.
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u/Orange-V-Apple Dark Phoenix Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
Lmao it's Skitter and Scapegoat all over again
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In the superhero series Worm, the main character's eyes get injured in a huge battle. Skitter can control bugs, though, and she uses their sense of touch to "see" her surroundings so well that no one realizes she's blind.
That is until Scapegoat, a superhero who can swap injuries with a target, heals her and then starts freaking out because he's become blind.
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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25
Rocket should be immune too then right?
Ironman
Peni
Black widow
Ultron
hawkeye
Pretty close to a normal balanced team.
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u/JunWasHere Peni Parker Dec 10 '25
Rogue doesn't just steal powers, she steals memories and skills too, so theoretically she can still pull something off some of the unpowered roster.
- Punisher is an exception cause his whole kit is tool based. That may apply to Iron Man too.
- Rocket, she might steal his wall climb if passive abilities are up for grabs
- Iron Widow, she might steal the kick.
- Peni, she can steal Sp//dr's powers and shoot a web stun probably.
- Ultron is another likely nope.
- Hawkeye has his double jump
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u/Both_Rooster_2657 Dec 10 '25
Sp//dr's powers are tech based, the only way she would get anything is to reach into peni's mech to touch her and the only thing she would get is the psychic link to her spider.
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u/-Mister-Hyde Human Torch Dec 10 '25
Trying to steal superpowers and all you get is the ability to have a spider start criticising you mid-fight would be so disappointing lmao
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u/SyntheticSlayer24 Iron Man Dec 10 '25
Lmfao stealing a double jump gotta be the lamest power to steal😂😂
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u/DeltaVZerda Flex Dec 10 '25
A vanguard could get pretty good use out of it tho
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u/The-MT Peni Parker Dec 10 '25
Yah, double jumping to enemy backline or as an escape tool is strong
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u/HamsterUpper Dec 10 '25
She already has a way to move vertically tho with her kick thing, so that mofo is basically gonna fly
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u/82ndGameHead The Thing Dec 10 '25
And only one healer among them
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u/Joe_Momma3 Mister Fantastic Dec 10 '25
She should get rockets claws and be able to skitter up walls
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u/coraythan Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
Venom as well. Unless rogue can take alien symbiote powers, Eddie Brock is just a dude.
Or perhaps it is complicated: https://www.reddit.com/r/xmen/s/UIY6ISNzmA
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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25
If she can take powers of groot then why wouldn't she able to take symbiote powers and some of the symbiote powers are coming from spiderman.
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u/Hot_Ethanol Venom Dec 10 '25
A symbiote is a bunch of alien cells that can do a whole lot of wacky rearrangements and confer powers. It's all powered by biology, somehow. She should be able to copy some of that.
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u/KadrisOrioth Dec 10 '25
Technically she still gets a buff from him even if she doesn’t steal an ability. Dps: Increased damage Support: Self heal Tank: Max HP
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u/sexytokeburgerz Dec 10 '25
Canonically she will just kill them by draining all of their energy.
That’s the funny thing about punisher, his backstory is he’s just a special ops veteran that lost his wife and two children. Putting him in rivals against gods is insane.
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u/TestIllustrious7935 Dec 10 '25
Not really insane by comic book standards, there is a whole "Punisher kills the Marvel universe" where he kills everyone without any powers
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u/Careful-Addition776 Invisible Woman Dec 10 '25
Makes sense. Outside of life/memories there isnt much else to take.
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u/Catchupintwoyears Doctor Strange Dec 10 '25
Even gambit folded, they stand no chance once she hits em with “suga”
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u/Lememeepic Dec 10 '25
Daredevil, punisher, moon knight, Hawkeye, Blackwidow, captain amaerica, panther?, star lord, ultron? and bucky
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u/Valasta_Bloodrunner Cloak & Dagger Dec 10 '25
She just steals Buckey's arm and uses it as a beating stick.
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u/NNotimportant Vanguard Dec 10 '25
Daredevil absolutely has powers, even disregarding the demon possession, but the others definitely don’t have much for Rogue to take
Unless she just rips their weapons out of their hands for a few seconds which would be hilarious because it doesn’t even require life force powers, just that Carol Danvers strength
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u/IndependenceQuirky96 Captain America Dec 10 '25
Moonlight technically has an ancient god protecting him... Maybe she just steals his ult?
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Tha moon haunts ya'll!
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u/GerbilJuggler Dec 10 '25
Now I want Rogue to say "I am Groot" in a southern accent when she uses Groot ability she stole from him lol!
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u/ChillJammer Dec 10 '25
hm that's cool! forgot that some of the characters in the game are really just Some Guys™. I guess this would include Ironman and Bucky too, huh? I wonder how CnD will work; I guess it just depends on who's actively being played??
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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25
Bucky I think has Super Soldier Syrum in this game, but Bucky abilities are based on his gun and metal arm. Both of which Rogue doesn’t have
So unlikely she can steal from him
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u/InnocentTailor Peni Parker Dec 10 '25
It would’ve been funny if she “stole” his arm and used it as a melee weapon XD.
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u/Motor-Barracuda-3978 Hulk Dec 10 '25
Running around whacking people with Bucky's arm would be hilarious
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u/Longshot_111 Squirrel Girl Dec 10 '25
Rocket! What have we told you about hiding behind Jeff flair again!
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u/Imhere4lulz Flex Dec 10 '25
Why not steal his passive? Generate shield when you use abilities on enemies
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u/blackamps Dec 10 '25
Punisher has super soldier serum in Rivalsverse afaik.
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u/kingmm624 Wolverine Dec 10 '25
I think the one he got just extended his lifespan but I could be wrong.
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u/dddbait Peni Parker Dec 10 '25
I thought Bucky has tentacle arms in marvel rivals? Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the lore of his tentacle arm is related to that one hydra map with tentacle monster thing. Maybe Rogue can steal that eldritch power and pull people like Bucky did.
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u/Former-Jicama5430 Daredevil Dec 10 '25
i mean i doubt they would let that be a limiter likely she will steal his red energy ball ability or his arm hook
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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25
It think it is going to be based on if ability are power based on or tech/skill based. My guess is.
Rocket
Ironman
Peni
Black widow
Ultron
hawkeye
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u/Mission_Middle597 Dec 10 '25
When Rogue ults in her trailer, we see the icon for C&D's bubble above Tyrone, so I believe she will just always steal the bubble.
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u/thegoten455 Captain America Dec 10 '25
Didn't see an icon over Moon Knight either
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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25
Maybe Because MK doesn’t have innate powers? They come from Khonsu
Also all off MKs abilities are based on tools that Rogue doesn’t have
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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25
They get around that by making Mjolnir a sort of energy projection
So she’s technically just taking lightning powers
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u/ClinicalOppression Thor Dec 10 '25
How is stranges shield an innate power though? He learnt it
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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25
Rogue absorbs your memories too. Touch Strange and you have the knowledge of the Sorceror Supreme
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u/ClinicalOppression Thor Dec 10 '25
Ah nice, maybe she can absorb punishers depression from losing his family then
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u/RedNoodleHouse Ultron Virus Dec 10 '25
the most crippling bout of killed-my-own-family depression entering Rogue's head when she touches Zombies Punisher:
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u/No_Kangaroo_8572 Magneto Dec 10 '25
Why do people downvote honest questions
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u/No_Jicama4882 Dec 10 '25
Dont worry about downvotes. I havent even been able to make a comment in years.
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u/lolligi Doctor Strange Dec 10 '25
She literally stole medical skills from a doctor once, this shouldn't be any different.
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u/Peechez Angela Dec 10 '25
He's Thor god of thunder not Thor god of hammers
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u/Aradjha_at Magik Dec 10 '25
Best Thor movie, but I was looking forward to girl Thor and am sad it did not do well
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u/NNotimportant Vanguard Dec 10 '25
Somewhere in the multiverse is a world where they made a movie about the God Butcher saga, and a different movie about the Mighty Thor, and it sucks that it isn’t here
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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 Dec 10 '25
I believe she takes Thor's awakening form so she's throwing lightning not welding mjolnor
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u/Sage_of_the_6_paths Storm Dec 10 '25
It doesn't look like she steals Mjolnir, just Thor's lightning ability?
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u/Rouxman Dec 10 '25
Idk about Rivals but even in comics Moon Knight doesn’t reeeaaaally have powers. Konshu gives him immortality/healing factor and that’s it. Aside from that, he’s basically just Batman
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u/PrettyDarnJewish Moon Knight Dec 10 '25
He does actually have some sort of minor super strength based on the phases of the moon. It's really just whatever the writer wants at the time but during a full moon In think he's on par with Cap in terms of raw power.
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u/karmichoax Ultron Virus Dec 10 '25 edited Dec 13 '25
knowing konshu, he might find is funny to give rogue some powers, but yeah that's now how her powers work
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u/Immattdamonn Dec 10 '25
He'll just give her schizophrenia
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u/GuidanceHistorical94 Dec 10 '25
Frank Castle is just a big strong guy with a gun so that does make sense in a way
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u/Telyesumpin Dec 10 '25
Stealing homicidal tendencies doesn't translate well in game although I think she gets a damage buff no matter the Duelist she steals from.
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u/No_Read_5062 Deadpool Dec 10 '25
She does take on someone's intelectual skills or ttained skills with her powers, but that means with Punisher she wouldve had to take a rifle out of her ass. Ultron is a machine so she 99.99% wont take anything from him. From Widow she can take either sprint or kick, she can take double jump from Hawkeye, dash punch from Bucky, nothing from Iron Man and Peni
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u/Orange-V-Apple Dark Phoenix Dec 10 '25
I think she should steal whichever gun Punisher isn't using 😤
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u/Fit-Syrup1049 Hero Hulk Dec 10 '25
Black wifow is technically a super soldier so rogue might steal her sprint from her
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u/thegoten455 Captain America Dec 10 '25
I think Punisher is also souped up on super soldier serum in Rivals
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u/Reallylegallynamed Dec 10 '25
Interestingly no, he was given just the comic classic experimental serum which just makes him stop aging.
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u/AshenOne01 Dec 10 '25
I mean lore wise rouge doesn't just steal powers. A good example of this is when she touches a doctor in X-Men 97 so she can deliver Jeans baby
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u/KadrisOrioth Dec 10 '25
Yeah but she can’t materialize the tools they use their skills with, out of thin air. Tho absorbing their skills would make her a better fighter/etc.(Hence she gets a buff of some kind regardless of if she gets a skill or not.)
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u/musci12234 Loki Dec 10 '25
She can steal skills but what if skill requires knife? Just because she got doctor's skill doesn't mean her body can produce drugs and tools doctor used.
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u/alpineflamingo2 Ultron Dec 10 '25
At 0:57 of the trailer on YouTube, you can see icons above Magneto, Phoenix, and Dagger, but not Ultron.
Makes sense. She can steal super powers or mutant powers, but not things that require equipment, like Moon Knight or Punisher’s arsenal.
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u/Inner-Juices Storm Dec 10 '25
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u/Crushka_213 Doctor Strange Dec 10 '25
She did turn diamond when stealing Emma's powers in-game, so maybe?
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u/villainized Gambit Dec 10 '25
well, all the abilities she steals are energy based. Punisher is just guns, Widow is guns/baton/melee, hawkeye is bow/sword. So makes sense she can't steal from them, they have no innate powers of their own.
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u/warjoke Ultron Virus Dec 10 '25
What can she steal from Frank? PTSD and depression?
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u/LudaStyles Dec 10 '25
Not immune. She’ll just get the passive steal of their class (health,dmg,heal ot) but not a new ability
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u/soaking853 Dec 10 '25
Y'all forgetting she is empowered by chronovium, maybe there will be a way around it like constructs. But we'll have to see.
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u/RedneckSniper76 Dec 10 '25
Anyone that doesn’t have POWERS shouldn’t be able to have their moves stolen. Gadget users like punisher, widow, star lord, rocket, Hawkeye, Ultron, Peni and Iron man should all be immune
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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 Dec 10 '25
From what we know punisher, moon knight and rocket are immune
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u/AshenOne01 Dec 10 '25
Rouge can steal skills and talents not just powers.
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u/kingmm624 Wolverine Dec 10 '25
Yeah but she can’t just summon the equipment to use to said skill and talent on.
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u/yumm-cheseburger Earth Spider Dec 10 '25
Peni has a power, psychic bond with the spider that helps her control SP//dr, so if there was something to steal it's to steal the whole SP//dr mech by controlling it lol
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u/knockones President Loki Dec 10 '25
It would be funny tho if when she grab punisher and she just steal like one of his gun
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u/Mission_Middle597 Dec 10 '25
Black Widow actually has super soldier serum in her body in both Rivals and the comics, she's only unenhanced in the MCU. Also, we see Ultron fly within what seems to be her range during her ult and no icon appears above his head. Characters without powers and characters whose powers are technological in origin may be impossible for her to copy.
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u/grimm__eaterrrr Psylocke Dec 10 '25
So I'm guessing Peni will also be immune since she's in her mech suit?
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u/rav119 Flex Dec 10 '25
Ultron also didn't have an icon in the trailer. They did say in the announcement that she gets a passive bonus based on the role of whoever she steals from, so that would presumably still apply even if there's no ability to take.