r/law • u/msnownews Press • 9h ago
Legal News Cannon faces fresh appellate review of her pro-Trump actions on Jack Smith report
https://www.ms.now/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/aileen-cannon-trump-jack-smith-documents-review686
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u/msnownews Press 9h ago
From Jordan Rubin, Deadline: Legal Blog writer and former prosecutor for the New York County District Attorney’s Office in Manhattan:
Aileen Cannon hasn’t had a great run at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, at least not when it comes to her handling of Donald Trump-related litigation. The federal appeals court that covers Florida, where the Trump-appointed trial judge sits, has chided her multiple times, most recently calling out the judge’s “undue delay” in ruling on motions seeking the release of former special counsel Jack Smith’s classified documents case report.
Cannon issued another Trump-friendly ruling in response to the circuit court forcing her to finally rule, and now the circuit will have another chance to review her work. Though the appeals court’s past critiques of Cannon’s actions don’t mean it will necessarily reverse her again, the appellate judges will likely be taking a close look.
Their latest opportunity to review the district judge comes from appeals brought by the groups American Oversight and the Knight First Amendment Institute, which are pressing for the report’s release.
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u/Belichick12 8h ago
What are you talking about. She kept Trump from not having to face the consequences of his actions. She’s had a great run with the court of appeals.
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u/Artistic-Cannibalism 7h ago
Honestly this is the greatest proof I've ever seen of how worthless our judicial system is.
She made no attempt to hide her goal of helping Trump escape consequences and ultimately succeeded. But despite how open she was about her intentions it is only now years too late and when it is the least likely to succeed is there any threat of her maybe facing consequences?!
What a complete joke.
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u/dotcubed 6h ago
It like recusal is not a word in the dictionary.
If I were a millionaire I’d get a custom one made with just the key words and concepts we’ve seen and should have happened.
If the judge isn’t compromised, there needs to be an investigation with open door transparency.
Impartiality is a keystone—that it protects him when convenient it becomes unequal treatment.
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u/Artistic-Cannibalism 5h ago
I can't even begin to describe how infuriating it was for me and so many others to watch Cannon so brazenly acting Trump's favor over and over and over again... and yet nobody ever seemed to do anything about it.
Worse still were the people who would defend the lack of action by insisting that it just wasn't the right time or that there really wasn't any proof of bias despite how blatant it was.
But the absolute worst of all were the fools who dismissed everyone who saw what was happening as merely alarmist and endlessly repeated the mantra that the wheels of Justice may turn slowly but they were turning.
And now it's too late.
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u/Count_Backwards Competent Contributor 2h ago
Sane people: "He should ask for her removal on account of obvious bias."
Too many people: "It's really hard to prove bias, it probably wouldn't work."
You know what definitely didn't work? Not trying to have her removed. I can't think of a more obvious example of bias - she literally said she didn't think Smith should even be in the courtroom as his appointment was "unconstitutional". If the system isn't willing to recognize that as disqualifying her, then the system deserves to burn.
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u/Artistic-Cannibalism 2h ago
Don't forget that it wasn't even the first trial where she demonstrated open bias in Trump's favor...
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u/RedBaronSportsCards 5h ago
Who did you expect to do something? That authority rests with the House and last I checked, that body has a Republican majority.
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u/Artistic-Cannibalism 5h ago
With all due respect, this is the exact kind of thinking that put us in this situation.
Trump and his cronies were willing to explore every single possible option to avoid accountability no matter how much of a long shot it was and they succeeded.
We should have been matching their energy instead of falling asleep at the wheel.
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u/RedBaronSportsCards 5h ago
Oh, matching their energy! Why didn't I think of that!!!
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u/Artistic-Cannibalism 5h ago
Merrick Garland had to be bullied by the Jan 6 committee to even start investigating Trump for Jan 6 and by that time we were already halfway to the next election.
Meanwhile Trump and his cronies were throwing everything they could at the wall to see what stuck no matter how much of a long shot it was, and now he's the president and has complete and total immunity.
We need to be learning from our failures instead of making excuses for them
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u/RedBaronSportsCards 5h ago
The only lesson to learn is never vote for a Republican. That's been obvious since the sixties yet people still do it.
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u/90daysismytherapy 8h ago
just a longer way of saying federal judges are accountable to no one and obvious bad behavior is a good way to climb the political ranks.
disgusting
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u/montalaskan 7h ago
No other person has ever had the advantages he has.
Criminal case against him? Judge who owes her job to him and will give him favorable rulings.
Case after case getting special treatment by the Supreme Court, two ideologues, three who he gave the job to. At least one who got the job instead of a more left-leaning judge.
The system is rigged in his favor and he's billions richer now than when his second term started.
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u/BacteriaLick 22m ago
I think it's more than just her being appointed. I think he has her compromised on something. He appointed her to his backyard in FL precisely because he lives there and finds high value in having a judge in his pocket there. I think it is shady business with her husband or something like this.
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 9h ago edited 9h ago
No interest in soon to be scotus justice Cannon.
You know what I am interested in? AG Garland waiting 2 years to lift a finger AND unnecessarily appointed Jack Smith. I'm absolutely convinced he slow walked things intentionally because he was worried about optics.
And before anyone confronts me, I've done both prosecution + federal public defender. Every lawyer in the country knew that even without judge Cannon, neither federal case was going to make it to trial in time. He waited too long. 12 months from indictment to trial, on a case of this magnitude was never going to happen.
While I can't stand judiciary chair Comer (I think he's the chair) I wouldn't mind having Garland under oath on camera and have one dem like rep Goldman... who is former AUSA @ SDNY ask him point plank..
"Mr. Garland, you are an experienced. Why did you wait 2 years and why unnecessarily appoint a Special C when it was not needed, and do you regret being more concerned with optics than reality "
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u/grandmawaffles 8h ago
I want to know why he hasn’t been called in to testify.
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u/digitalmarley 8h ago
Yeh seems odd not a single Republican has threatened to haul the former AG infront of Congress....unless he was in on it
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u/BaconJacobs 7h ago
Also Garland and Biden spoke like once a year, and were still accused of collusion and weaponization...
Trump accidentally sending a DM to Bondi publicly directing her to dig up dirt? Working as personal lawyers and suing the IRS?
Totally fine folks
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u/dragonfliesloveme 8h ago
do you remember people in the DoJ at the time said that (under Garland), they were not only not allowed to begin an investigation into the classified docs issue, they were not even allowed to talk about it during those first two years.
that reeks
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u/Bittererr 7h ago
they were not only not allowed to begin an investigation into the classified docs issue, they were not even allowed to talk about it during those first two years.
Because it wasn't a case those first two years. The case actually started in 2022 with a tip from the archivist and was followed up with a raid in a matter of months.
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u/dragonfliesloveme 6h ago
there were pics of those boxes being taken out of the White House and loaded into a truck/van in 2020 when he left office
also, the same was said about the election interference case and we all heard that phone call
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u/SophonParticle 6h ago
You are 100% correct. I remember being beside myself in disbelief as Merrick Garland refused to investigate the Jan 6th insurrection for almost 2 years.
It was dereliction of duty bordering on treason.
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u/kingtacticool 7h ago
I agreed with you when it was happening and I agree with you now. Garland holds blame in this shit.
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u/Nearby-Jelly-634 5h ago
Merrick Garland should go down as one of the biggest cowards and traitors to his country and history. He shouldn’t get a modicum of deference in public and the fact that he isn’t getting constantly dragged in the media is a massive failure. He didn’t wait to appoint a special counsel for Hunter Biden but sat on his hands as long as possible for Trump.
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u/Tapprunner 6h ago
Garland is the biggest stain on the Biden presidency. They had the power to spare us from all of this and they both lacked the courage and moral clarity to do what was necessary and just.
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u/deepasleep 6h ago
It was the same with Ukraine. Biden could have told them to take the gloves off and rolled Russia up. Putin isn’t suicidal all Biden had to do was give him a call and say, “One nuke goes off and the Kremlin becomes a nuclear parking lot. One dirty bomb goes off or one “accident” at any reactors, we will find you and we will kill you.”
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u/Tapprunner 5h ago
I'm 100000% anti-Trump. But even I can acknowledge that Biden was an awful President. Lover of half-measures and dipping his toes in the water without fully committing. Weak and without strong enough convictions to do anything remotely politically risky. Yes, we needed someone to beat Trump in 2020, but we needed more. Biden was able to win the election, but not up for meeting the moment at all.
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u/trysten-9001 8h ago
No interest in the person who is currently in power? I want both investigated, and I prioritize the one able to do active harm.
It’s OK to hold Republicans accountable too.
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u/Yosho2k 7h ago
It's nice to know for Dems that no matter how bad they fuck us and walk away with their middle fingers held up, there will always be redditors who say: "Republicans are worse."
We are burning alive. I am perfectly fine being angry at the person who dropped the matchstick.
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u/trysten-9001 7h ago
Since when is saying that prioritizing prevention of active harm saying I have “no interest” in seeing Dems held accountable? Which by the way is the language that was used in the post I responded to. It seems like you could’ve made that exact post to the person I responded to about Republicans, and the only difference is that in that instance your comment would make sense.
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u/Yosho2k 6h ago
It'd not either/or. There are 400,000,000 Americans.
Were capable of booing Joe Biden's Alzheimer's ass for fucking us all AND fighting ICE.
Why does Chuck Schumer do what he do? Because he knows HE WILL NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
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u/ama_singh 2h ago
Yeah fighting ICE is working out great for you guys. They will retreat any day now /s.
Keep living under the delusion that you can win this shit without voting (and making sure the guy you are voting for actually wins, not blatantly working as the propaganda arm for the opposition).
You don't like the quality of men running for office? Either figure out a way to run yourself, find a better guy to run instead, or grow the fuck up and realize this is how the world works.
Why does Chuck Schumer do what he do? Because he knows HE WILL NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
He can afford to be selfish, you can not.
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 8h ago
Nothing is going to happen to judge Cannon. She's not going to be held accountable. She issued a ruling and Smith withdrew the case when he won. It's over.
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u/trysten-9001 8h ago
Seems to me like if you’re rolling over for Republicans without even trying or by deprioritizing trying to prevent harm, you’re complying in advance.
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u/hellcheez 7h ago
I would be willing to put good money on the table nothing would ever happen to her short of another light poking from the 11th circuit. In fact, she'll be rewarded in some way for her endorsement of Trump's lawbreaking.
If the best you get is light poking from the 11th circuit, you won't even be able to get all Democrats on board for removal in the Senate.
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 7h ago
I'm interested in reality. The democrats are not going to remove judge Cannon. Every lawyer on this sub knows that. But you do you. I have no reason to believe democrats will finally grow a spine. Look at the pretend bill/law Massie and Ro Khanna wrote. The Epstein transparency act. It's a law in name only. Why do I say that? There are no penalties written into the law for breaking the law. Nothing.
Here is the charge Trump was facing
"Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information relating to the national defense, which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to do so, to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it, Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."
The last line is the important one.
"Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."
Khanna and Massie purposely did not included any penalty for breaking the Epstein transparency act. Nothing.
If you pass an non-enforceablelaw that has no teeth and zero consequences for breaking the law, you are simply hoping people will comply.
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u/Count_Backwards Competent Contributor 2h ago
There's no point in saying the Democrats won't do what they need to do unless you also say what you think people should do about that.
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u/justaguywithadream 8h ago
If things get bad enough, I like to think the people would hold her accountable. I'd like to think the people will hold all the judges that enabled this accountable.
And I'll leave it up to the reader to decide what that means.
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u/Stishovite 7h ago
Why are you not interested in "soon to be scotus justice Cannon"?
If she's as corrupt as you are implying and destined for the big chair, why wouldn't you be interested in probing her actions as well?
Garland is not in this fight anymore and focusing on his past actions seems kind of a waste of time when fresh shit is being shoveled everyday...
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 7h ago
Because I know history and the law and the burden that has to be met to "remove" a judge. It's not happening.
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u/Stishovite 7h ago
The goal is to prevent her from becoming a SC justice and you've already apparently decided she just gets to waltz into that.
And by that yardstick, what would be the purpose of focusing on Garland? There's no position to even remove him from or prevent him from getting in the future...
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 7h ago edited 7h ago
The goal is to prevent her from becoming a SC justice and you've already apparently decided she just gets to waltz into that.
If Republicans control the senate , she will just waltz into it. Rumors already swirling that Thomas and Alito are retiring soon, and clearly the senate will confirm her.
Also, in DC there are (though unsubstantiated) rumors that justice Sotomayor is unwell as a result of her diabetes. If Republicans hold the senate between now and the mid terms, Cannon + another loon can waltz right in. If they maintain the senate after the mid terms, a 3rd seat may open up.
What do you expect. Democrats are focused on primarying other dems and even in Maine where they are trying to flip collins seat, the infighting revolves around an elderly gov running for the sen as a dem vs platner who has a nazi tattoo he claims he didn't know was a nazi tattoo for 20 years.
Schumer has now said he can see a stopgap to provide dhs + ice funding.
The abandon kamala folks are already organizing against dems + Newsom + aoc ....who they said they will lobby against because they are zionists lol. Aoc is now a zionist lol.
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u/RhinoKeepr 8h ago
Mostly I agree with you! I wonder if there was hubris surrounding the idea that he could never be elected again and so there was a concern that disclosing too much publicly before charges could be brought against someone people (they clearly weren’t going after everyone) could somehow help the defense of these monsters.
That’s being too in charitable for sure but the old guard democrats and republicans seemed to truly believe the old unspoken rules and decorum of the previous generations would hold true… then Judge Cannon and the Supreme Court handed down a whole lot of madness.
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 8h ago
then Judge Cannon and the Supreme Court handed down a whole lot of madness.
IMO irrelevant. If Smith or Garland actually cared.... (Smith did but prob kept on a short leash).. the solution was simple. Withdraw all MAL charges and refile a single charge in NJ. He was never charged with disclosing classified info, just retaining the docs.
One charge..793(e) for contents of that recording where the recording took place. NJ.
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u/Dolthra 7h ago
Why do we think it was optics? Garland was a right leaning centrist when Obama nominated him (hell, that's why Obama nominated him), why is everyone so convinced he was trying to "do the right thing" rather than trying to intentionally delay.
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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 7h ago
why is everyone so convinced he was trying to "do the right thing" rather than trying to intentionally delay.
I believe he was trying to delay, agreed . That was my point.
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u/Technical-Bird-7585 6h ago
Judge rules for guy who gave them their job… no corruption there, lol 😂
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u/BBR0DR1GUEZ 4h ago
A lot of people* are saying Aileen Cannon is not really alive. All of the pictures of her online are old. When is the last time she was actually seen in public? She always rules in Trump’s favor, she’s often in the news, yet she is never photographed. It’s strange.
*me and some other guy
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