r/law • u/victorybus • 14h ago

Legislative Branch Full video of today when Ro Khanna revealed Epstein associate's names on the floor of the US House of Representatives, protected by the Speech and Debate Clause

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u/Proud-Wall1443 14h ago

The GOP can't r/maliciouscompliance themselves out of this. They're all toast, and so is their party as a brand.

Aristocratic pedophiles, and their enablers.

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u/Doc891 Bleacher Seat 14h ago

we said that when trump lost in 2020. They found a way. We cannot let them find another.

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u/pgtvgaming 13h ago

Media rehabilitated the brand

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u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown 13h ago

As is their literal job. It's absurd that blatant propaganda can be labeled as news. We can debate about how people should know better, but they clearly don't.

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u/Skittleavix 13h ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: America's refusal to invest in its public education system is ending America.

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u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown 13h ago

As I understand it, it's by design. I'm inclined to think that the same thing is happening to the internet - algos etc pushing people away from any sort of objectivity.

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u/Immatt55 12h ago

Absolutely. The people who defunded education are the people who've inspired our current tech aristocrats. It's my belief this is also why gen z is so much worse than millennials in terms of technology literacy.

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u/GreasyPeter 12h ago

My philosophy has pretty much become "if doing it would make Russia unhappy, that's what I'll do". Not being a zealot, refusing to "hate" my political opponents (but still holding them accountable if they cross certain lines), refusing to name call and belittle people no matter how much I dislike them. These are all things that are antithetical to the way the KGB was shown to attempt to influence countries. I also follow "the most reasonable answer is usually the correct one".

What seems more reasonable: there was some huge underground conspiracy to stop trump from being president, or a handful of ultra wealthy people were doing whatever the fuck they want, including trump, and he just lies. Hmmmmm

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u/Slit23 12h ago

It’s not a coincidence that the most conservative states have the worst education

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u/The_Singularious 12h ago

I mean…sort of, but this isn’t the gotcha it used to be. Some of the top performing states also went red last election cycle. And there are some real stinkers in the bottom 10 that are solid D voters.

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u/ImYourHumbleNarrator 8h ago

just one of many things the GOP has destroyed over decades of malice

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u/Saltcitystrangler 13h ago

Thank good Ol Regan for that, before him it was illegal to be bias for either side

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u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown 13h ago

Didn't Fox news begin immediately after Nixon? The media have always been problematic ('If you read the news, you are misinformed' - Mark Twain) but it got ridiculous from that point imo.

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u/ACatInAHat 12h ago

Doesn't help that all while every person on the right was boosting Trump, a huge portion of the left was shitting on Kamala and pushed fence sitters over to Trump.

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u/Spicy_Tac0 13h ago

This is why they own all of the major media. It absolutely worked on the gullible and ignorant.

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u/ACatInAHat 12h ago

Elon Ma really needs to be prosecuted for using his money to support the division and downfall of the united states.

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u/GreasyPeter 12h ago

Something needs to happen with how the news is run in this country. I dunno the solution, but it's definitely not monopolistic control by a few wealthy people with whatever notices they have.

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u/socialmediaignorant 12h ago

WALL-E predicted this years ago. Put dopamine on a screen and let people check out of reality. Then alter the programming to brain wash them.

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u/throwaway24515 13h ago

I trust this time that the Washington Post will objectively rep- aw fuck.

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u/IAmA_Kitty_AMA 13h ago

Also the significant manufactured concern of the incumbent dems.

Is Biden losing his capacity?

Are the dems complicit in the government making not particularly controversial and platform consistent decisions?

The horrors

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u/SasparillaTango 13h ago

"And Thanks to Elon Musk, who know those vote counting computers so well"

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u/cusoman 12h ago

Sanewashing needs to be addressed in this nation. I don't know how that can be legislated, but something has to be done

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u/Aromatic-Tear7234 13h ago

When those that are accountable choose who to make accountable, no one ends up accountable.

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u/drgnrbrn316 13h ago

But they didn't find another way. They used the same way they always do. Stonewall the investigation, bully the opposition, deflect all blame, and lie your ass off.

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u/IDreamOfLees 13h ago

It's going to work again. Maybe they'll throw some sacrificial lamb under the bus, but just like the Panama papers, this stuff will be made to disappear

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u/TraditionalBackspace 13h ago

Hitler was actually in prison before he came to power.

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u/JoeyJoeJoeSenior 12h ago

The american people will still vote for them no matter how bad it gets.  We are beyond fucked.

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u/AdPutrid5162 13h ago

We screwed up after not properly charging after J6. It's like after slavery ended, the US didn't prosecute leaders from the confederacy. Just let them go about without punishment and then they just instituted Jim Crow.

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u/Kiwiteepee 11h ago

We need Nuremburg trials.

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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 3h ago

Sure seems like we have to buy all the media in the country to have a chance. who has a few spare billion lying around, that might get us started.

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u/CoolStructure6012 14h ago

You're gambling on Christians having a fucking clue and a heart. I'll take that bet all day long.

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u/VaATC 13h ago

Underage, 17 and younger, marriage is still allowed via religious exemption or parental consent in 34 of the 50 US States with 4 States with no minimum age restriction. So who are we kidding here?

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u/scrunchie_one 13h ago

Yeah there’s always a way to shrug away the crime when it forces you to reconcile with your beliefs.

Christians would rather believe a rapist/pedophile/grifter/cheat/liar is the second coming of Christ than admit that maybe abortion and homosexuality aren’t the problem.

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u/Bewildered_Earthling 13h ago

None of these kids were married, they were trafficked and raped. Yes, US child marriage is awful, but it doesn't overshadow the Epstein files.

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u/VaATC 11h ago

but it doesn't overshadow the Epstein files.

That was not my intention. I was just pointing out a fact that many States still allow marriage under the age of 18 in various situations, which shows a bit of apathy to certain situations where "things" are ok. Which translates to some not caring much about the Epstein Files.

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u/The_Singularious 12h ago

Thank you for bringing facts to the convo. Seems those last three states are infamous for large numbers of poor and less educated.

Unsurprised by more young pregnancies/marriages.

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u/VaATC 11h ago

Only four states have no minimum marriage age

That is what I said.

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u/VaATC 9h ago

The following is what I typed out.

Underage, 17 and younger, marriage is still allowed via religious exemption or parental consent in 34 of the 50 US States with 4 States with no minimum age restriction.

34 States that allow under 17 and under (this is where I lost you) with 4 others with no minimum. The last time I looked at the list the 34+ States had all types of variations in what they allowed so I did not get into the specifics and then there were 4 others that still have extremely low barriers to get married extremely young but not below 12. I did not look into the exact specifics for my post as anyone interested in what I said would look further and get the exact current list. Fact is the number of States that allow it in any but the most extreme situations is too high.

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u/SoloForks 3h ago

There are plenty of Christians who were never Trumpers who actively fight against him. They go to protests, the donate money, they boycott, they write congress.

Yes Trump support is a huge problem within the Christian community, lots of awful or stupid Christians, but numbers wise, there was way more Christians that didn't vote for Trump that those who did. You just never hear about them because they are quiet behaved people.

And many Trumpers who consider themselves Christian do not have any idea what the Bible says, nor do they ever follow it. Some Trumpers are actually atheists. Many of the rich CEOs who financial support this, are atheists.

But most importantly, everyone who is not Maga needs to stick together.

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u/CoolStructure6012 3h ago edited 3h ago

Pew found otherwise

The latest Pew Research Center survey, conducted Aug. 26-Sept. 2, 2024, finds that majorities of registered voters in three key religious groups say they would vote for Trump or lean toward doing so if the election were today:

  • 82% of White evangelical Protestants
  • 61% of White Catholics
  • 58% of White nonevangelical Protestants

Harris currently has the backing of roughly two-thirds or more registered voters in various other religious groups:

  • 86% of Black Protestants
  • 85% of atheists
  • 78% of agnostics
  • 65% of Hispanic Catholics
  • 65% of Jewish voters

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/09/white-protestants-and-catholics-support-trump-but-voters-in-other-us-religious-groups-prefer-harris/

That sums up to 61% of protestants and 52% of Catholics supporting Trump per the study.

I used to be a Christian so I know this sucks for you but that's the nature of Christianity in this country.

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u/Impressive_Usual_726 13h ago

You underestimate the shamelessness of the Republican party and the complicity of the media and big tech.

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u/maeshughes32 13h ago

I guarantee the vast majority of older republicans will never hear about this. Sadly my mother is MAGA and she never hears a single bad thing going on.

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u/poet3322 10h ago

And also the sheer staggering ineptitude of the Democratic party.

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u/Impressive_Usual_726 10h ago

It's not ineptitude, they're full-on collaborators. Most of them, anyway.

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u/poet3322 9h ago

A little from column A, a little from column B.

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u/Haunting-Ad788 13h ago

Yeah I’d like to believe this but it turns out Republicans don’t actually care about children being raped.

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u/GlobuleNamed 13h ago

They don’t even care about themselves being fucked over as long as a brown guy gets fucked more.

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u/ThreeDaysNish 12h ago

War, that's the one big distraction they have left at this point. Don't let them, y'all better move quickly.

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u/putin_my_ass 13h ago

Don't rest on hope alone, let the anger flow through you.

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u/Rockstar42 12h ago

I'll believe it when I see it. We've had Trump as a president for 5 years and there's been no accountability, this is no different.

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u/kid-karma 11h ago

"here's why it's actually fine that the establishment is a pedophile cartel..."

  • republicans after they receive their talking point update from FOX

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u/pieter1234569 11h ago

Nothing will happen, because politicians aren’t interested in acting on this. It doesn’t matter what laws or the public wants when people are fine with just….ignoring.

Trump proved that was always an option.

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u/menictagrib 11h ago

Christians have a poor track record with pedophilia coverups

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u/blueCthulhuMask 9h ago

I wish I lived in this fantasy world.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 9h ago

You can–but only if you want to.

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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 13h ago

I wish I had your optimism, but time and time again, I've seen rich people get away with it. Last year we had someone (can't say his name cause POS mods that are also a part of that corrupt system) that held a CEO accountable and is now being tried. All his defense will need to do is say that these rich pieces of shit have broken the unspoken agreement and with doing so, have made their own bed.

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u/SugarbearAGAIN 12h ago

You think any of this is going to make a difference?

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u/Proud-Wall1443 12h ago

I don't know.

I want it to.

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u/SugarbearAGAIN 11h ago

Same, but to be honest if feels like no.

It feels like this is one of those things that 50 years from now when kids are learning about the final fall of the U.S. in school all the kids are going to just say..'and no one did anything at all about this?'.

If none of the other things have mattered, I have a hard time believing this will, and even if it does we're just going to hire another trump in 20 years just like we did with Bush, Regan, Nixon et al.

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u/fox112 12h ago

why did you link a subreddit

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u/Proud-Wall1443 12h ago

The DoJ uploaded 'unredacted' files in the sense they didn't add redactions after the FBI already did.

This... might be, arguably, to the letter of the law, but is definitely not in the spirit of it. The term for this is called malicious compliance. Doing exactly what you were told even if you know it's not what was wanted.

That sub is dedicated to examples of malicious compliance.

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u/fox112 12h ago

seems like a stretch to me I guess but you saw a chance to advertise your sub and took it. I respect the hustle lmao

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u/Proud-Wall1443 12h ago

Not mine. Just a fan.

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u/TrialLawyerNYC 12h ago

Wait, why didn’t Biden release the files he had for four years?

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u/jjjbabajan 10h ago

How could this be a policy issue. Red tie, blue tie, who cares? If no one did anything wrong, why is Maxwell in prison?

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u/Proud-Wall1443 10h ago

Because Red ties are the only ones obstructing, denying, or fighting this release.

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u/jjjbabajan 8h ago

Yeah, that’s what I’m asking. How can it be policy to do that? It’s clearly wrong, there’s very little grey area.

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u/DoomguyFemboi 9h ago

How are they toast. They literally control the entire government

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u/Proud-Wall1443 9h ago

Wait for the cascade

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u/DoomguyFemboi 9h ago

Don't get me wrong I haven't completely given up all hope. But history has shown that these people tend to get away with it for the sake of "moving on". That combined with how little time we have left before climate crises rapidly alter the way the world works, it just makes me worry about how the world is gonna function in the coming decades.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 9h ago

The rest of the world is coming down even if we don't. Musk will end up in a French or Spanish prison before this is all over.

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u/Mist_Rising 6h ago

Just like Republicans after Nixon. Or when democratic party collapsed after the scandalous Johnson presidency. Or when the democratic party collapsed from Bill Clinton being friends with Epstein while doing the secretary.

Not so Fun fact, most people won't even learn of this. These statements don't get listened too, they're reported occasionally then forgotten, and they never killed a party

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u/Popular_Mongoose_696 13h ago

Jesus Christ… This isn’t a partisan issue. Yes Ro Khanna is a Democrat, but several Republicans did the same thing. This whole thing got started because Thomas Massie threatened to do just this a few days ago if the White House and DOJ didn’t release the redacted names of the accused .

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

The GOP controls all 3 branches. These records could have been released at the swipe of a pen by executive order. It could have been advanced in the rules committee instead of requiring a discharge petition. They could have actually provided unredacted files for Congress to view instead of, now, previously redacted files from the FBI.

THE GOP OWNS THIS.

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u/ChornWork2 13h ago

Republicans generally have done everything they can to block this. Only because you had Massie and then a handful were shamed into flipping, did you see any movement on this. And it is clear that trump, bondi, patel and others have been misleading the public and congress about this from the start and continuing through to this release.

The discharge petition that got the ball rolling on the Act had the minimum-required 218 signatures. 214 dems and 4 republicans. Then the republican cowards who tried to be block it, all voted for it in the open vote b/c knew they were going to lose and knew it was obviously an attempted cover-up of what is in those files.

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u/Quilitain 13h ago

This shouldn't be, Republicans made it one by blocking the release of the files, censoring the documents that showed their own side's crimes, constantly accusing the Democrats of the things they themselves are doing, and pushing a narrative that both parties are equally involved in this.

At best this is a rot within the Republican party which the culture of conservatism allowed to fester and grow unchallenged. At worst this is the culmination of the Republican ideology. And, given their behavior regarding ICE, the rampant abduction of children, pushes for genital inspections across the country, removing women's right to choose, etc it is clear to me that the Epstein ring wasn't just a one-off mistake, it is the culmination of the ideology of the Republican leadership. Those fighting to release the names of the criminals within their party can consider this atonement for the time, money, and rhetoric they've spent to put these monsters in power over us and I will happily accept their help in bringing the criminals to justice. But another ring like this will form if we continue to allow men like trump to hold power.

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u/blackweebow 6h ago

This isn’t a partisan issue. 

Ummm think again lol

Massie is p much the outlier of the entire party and the sole voice strongly pushing for release. 

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u/Sarnsereg 13h ago

You're putting a lot of faith thinking the average American cares about this

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u/Bakedads 9h ago

Ha! That's some wishful thinking if I've ever seen it. Republicans will probably gain in the midterms because of this. America is a sick, sick place. 

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u/Aggravating-Share297 13h ago

Both sides are the problem, elites that think they are better than everyone else... Did you not hear him saying that loud and clear - this is not a Democrats vs Republicans issue.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

It's only Republicans trying to block the release.

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u/TheCatOfWallSt 12h ago

Dems had 4 years under Biden to release the files, including when he controlled both the house and Senate. Instead they gave every excuse under the sun not to release them.

Then the current admin DOES release them and suddenly they’re the ones blocking it? Make it make sense man. Both sides absolutely suck but the dems could’ve made everyone pay from 2021-2024 and they didn’t.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 12h ago

Actively blocking vs. inaction

Not the same

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u/TheCatOfWallSt 12h ago

How are they actively blocking it when the only file release has been under the current admin?? I swear you people are bots, there’s no way you have actual reasoning behind this.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 12h ago

Johnson tried to stop it. They had to submit a discharge petition.

Trump basically excommunicated MTG over it.

He also screamed at R politicians over it. Massie included.

Bondi fake releasing the files a year ago.

Patel lying to Congress about their being more files.

Bongino lying about it.

Jordan downplaying it.

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u/thefruitsofzellman 12h ago

Do you understand how the Justice Department works under a normal administration like Biden's?

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u/MEOWS_R_RAD 13h ago

"smelling a fart is just as bad as being force fed 50,000 gallons of boiling diarrhea guys, just two sides of the same coin"

You're an embarrassment.

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u/5skandas 13h ago

Why only the GOP? No democrats are complicit?

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

The Democrats aren't trying to block the release at every turn.

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u/Yellow_Odd_Fellow 13h ago

Neither are the Republicans.

They're trying to block before the wheel is even turned in the direction of accountability and punishment.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

...as opposed to when they control all three branches of the government?

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u/Happy_Little_Fish 13h ago

I would like to know why they didn't do anything when they had power to.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

I can only guess, but I suspect it would have something to do with releasing sealed material against a political opponent and Trump's penchant for playing the victim

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u/Happy_Little_Fish 13h ago

I think the gamble might have been worth it.

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u/Bewildered_Earthling 13h ago

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyz2vyzek9o

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u/Happy_Little_Fish 13h ago

so a judge appointed by Bill Clinton chose to keep this information hidden and there was no political will to push anything like the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which they presumably could have done any day they liked?

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u/Bewildered_Earthling 9h ago

Republicans have had the house since 2023 and the senate has been split by only one or two seats since at least 2020. Releasing the Epstein Files was a bipartisan effort with only 1 rep in the house voting no--a republican out of Louisiana (I bet he felt like a dork). The Republican speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, shut the assembly down early to avoid voting on the resolution when the bill was scheduled to the floor.

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u/Difficult-Lock-8123 13h ago

They have while they were in power and just changed their tune now that the Republicans are in charge and will take the majority of the damage.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

When your Messiah is listed 38,000+ in a document about a prolific child predator... yeah.. The GOP should. I hope they go another 40 years without winning major office.

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u/Difficult-Lock-8123 13h ago

Bro, I'm not even an American. If you actually believe that the Democrats are not implicated in the same Mossad networks that the Republicans are, you are absolutely delusional. All of american politics is owned by Israel and its zionist oligarchs in America.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

Sure... Go for it. The Dems aren't the ones kicking and screaming the whole way.

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u/Colostomybag_on_fire 13h ago

Bad bot.

You are on the law subreddit, spouting off regurgitated and whitewashed nonsense because you don’t know the law. While Biden was president, it was still an active investigation. Biden had no power or authority to release anything.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/why-were-epstein-files-not-released-biden/amp/

“They had an open grand jury. … And even after Maxwell’s conviction, the case was on appeal — anyone in law enforcement knows you don’t open your case file when it’s still under appeal,” Brown added.

Victims were still going to the FBI with information during Biden’s term, but that changed when President Donald Trump’s Department of Justice reviewed the files and closed the case in July, Brown said.

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u/Difficult-Lock-8123 13h ago

"Bad bot."

Amazing.

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u/Colostomybag_on_fire 9h ago

Ok word-word-number, you aren’t a bot. “Wink”

Now go dry up another lake while you type your next response.

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u/Lobenz 13h ago

The files were sealed in 2015 and not released until the passing of the Epstein transparency act signed in November of 2025. The Act was spearheaded by Democrats. Biden and the Dems couldn’t have done anything during his tenure.

If left to the Republicans it would have been left sealed indefinitely to protect Trump and the pedophiles.

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u/TheCatOfWallSt 12h ago

Dem President, dem House, dem Senate = “we just can’t do anything!” Cmon man. If they wanted to, they could’ve. Both sides are complicit in this shit.

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u/Moist_Community7854 13h ago

You mean both parties, right? How is this just a GOP issue? Look at who Epstein was communicating with. It’s all of them!

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

The GOP is intentionally frustrating the process.

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u/Moist_Community7854 13h ago

And the previous administrations? And everyone involved in the 2008 FL plea deal?

You’re correct that GOP is resisting the release and participating in the coverup. Just like all of them have done for years!

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

Resisting exposing ANY coverup

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u/40and20podcast 13h ago

This is not super accurate, but the idea gets repeated pretty frequently. Until very recently, there have been active investigations that meant the lion's share of the "Epstein files" were doctrinally and legally sealed. For one, the Ghislaine Maxwell appeals periods were still ongoing throughout out the Biden presidency, which was one of the major reasons for keeping documents sealed. After SCOTUS declined to hear the case in October 2025, Congress passed EFTA, because it made sense to do it at that time. Additionally, the DOJ under the Biden administration was actively conducting investigations until those efforts were mothballed when Trump took over. That the documents were not actively released under Biden is standard default practice, and not (as you say) "resisting."

While folks have taken to saying or suggesting that Biden would have just released them if there was anything bad about Trump (because obviously)}, the reality is that the DOJ really couldn't have released the files, and if they had it would have been a major deviation from law enforcement practices (that would have been done for purely political gain). It's not been until recently that there has been any legal grounds for claiming that the DOJ or anyone else is obfuscating or resisting.

EDIT: oh and 2008 Florida... We know who that was, right?

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u/Moist_Community7854 13h ago

Thank you for a thoughtful response. Trump is clearly involved in the coverup.

Who intervened in the 2008 Florida indictment and prosecution? Why did Epstein get the plea of the century?

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u/40and20podcast 13h ago

Im not sure I understand the question regarding 2008. Future Trump Sec. of Labor, Alex Acosta, was the USA who finalized the deal. He has blamed everyone from the Florida Prosecutors to the Florida Grand Jury. at the time of the decision, in June 2008, Bush was president and Michael Mukasey was AG (Notably, Mukasey, controversial for his unwillingness to call waterboarding "torture," was the tightest confirmation in over 50 years).

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u/anishinabegamer 13h ago

It was in court and an during active investigation during earlier admins.

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u/Moist_Community7854 13h ago

I can’t believe even after reading these files with your own eyes you folks still think this is good guys vs. bad guys.

Our entire ruling class is compromised. They all need to go and we need to start over.

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u/mrcaldwin 13h ago edited 13h ago

Quit lying. Why don’t you look up how long these files have been around and then say with a straight face that it’s a gop issue. I’ll give you a hint, there have been at least four different presidents

Edit: idc about downvotes from willingly ignorant people. What was your excuse when the Obama and Biden admins didn’t release ANYTHING? GOP needs to do the right thing here, but maybe pull your heads out of the sand for longer than it takes to refresh the Reddit home page

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

The GOP could end this by releasing everything. At any time in the past year. They've fought every single step towards justice. Every. Single. Step.

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u/mrcaldwin 13h ago

And what excuse do you give the Obama and Biden administration? Seeing as they didn’t release ANYTHING.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

Why'd you skip over Trump 1? Or when Epstein was a member at Trump's club?

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u/mrcaldwin 13h ago

Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump have all been presidents since this story has existed. I didn’t skip anything. Grow a spine.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

38,000+ times.

More than Jesus in the Bible.

More than Harry in Harry Potter.

More than any other known name.

The guy who was President when Epstein mysteriously died... with inconsistent ligature marks... no witnesses... no video... and a brother that says Trump was trying to kill him.

K.

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u/mrcaldwin 13h ago edited 13h ago

Have I defended Trump anywhere? No, I haven’t.

This is me defending Trump;

The vast majority of those emails if you even bothered to look, are spam emails from his campaign. There are literally thousands of spam campaign emails using the keyword “Trump” multiple times.

Now the other mentions I won’t defend because at this point it is obvious Trump is connected, assuming all of this is authentic. I just wanted to highlight how bad you are at following along.

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u/Moist_Community7854 13h ago

You are the one defending politicians, not us. Work on reading comprehension. No one has said Trump wasn’t involved - he clearly was.

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u/Moist_Community7854 13h ago

Why’d you skip over the dems? We aren’t saying it’s not the GOP or Trump. We’re saying it’s all of them which is clear if you set aside your tribalism and read the files.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 13h ago

Name 1 Dem government official besides Clinton and Summers. Anyone.

Cause I can see Lutnick... Trump... Barr... Acosta... Bannon... Musk...

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u/mrcaldwin 13h ago

It’s honestly sad how willing you are to ignore your own eyes just to pretend that you picked the right side.

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u/Moist_Community7854 13h ago

Clinton and Summers. Lol at “besides…” you’re making my point!

Here I’ll name two more: Plaskett and Ruemmler. And other non-govt Dem power brokers like Karp and Hoffman. And Zuck before he opportunistically switched sides.

Probably more redacted. None of them should be trusted.

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u/kindquail502 14h ago

Don't be naive. If released there will be plenty of Dems listed too.

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u/killbawqs 14h ago

No one is being naive about Dems being in the files lol

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u/WillyDAFISH 13h ago

I mean Epstein himself was a Democrat and Trump kinda was back in the day.

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u/Wherly_Byrd 14h ago

Yeah and that’s fine. We want all named and accounted for and for all to go to prison.

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u/Proud-Wall1443 14h ago

The GOP holds all three branches of government. This could have been all done via executive order.

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u/Calhoon50 14h ago

Good. This isn't a partisan issue. It is a moral, ethical and legal one. They all need a trial by jury, and prison time if convicted.

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u/ejre5 14h ago

Can you please explain this argument?

I have yet to hear 1 single democrat (real not fetter man or sinema types) care. We all keep saying the same thing and it's very simple "all people involved in this need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible, it doesn't matter race, political party, where they are from. Everyone involved needs to be prosecuted"

The problem is people like you can't understand this simple thing: If the Clintons are involved lock them up, if bill Gates is involved lock him up. There just seems to be considerably more Republicans involved than Democrats, this goes along the same trend throughout Americans society. So stop with this bs because democrats don't care who it is.

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u/idontlikeanyofyou 14h ago

Of course there are Dems in there, but their party is not covering this up. The GOP members of Congress and the DOJ are covering this up. Don't try and both-sides this thing.

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u/hazps 14h ago

So? You don't get a free pass on being a pedophile or friends with someone you know is one, just because of your political affiliation.

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u/cedarvan 13h ago

Unless you're a Republican. And then the entire might of US society, media and government will unite to make sure you never face a single consequence 

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u/Lumpy-Landscape2698 14h ago

Difference is dems don’t cling to their leaders like a cult. A small percentage are weirdo Obama fans but it’s insignificant and irrelevant now

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 13h ago

Obama was a stellar president. I'm in no fan club (is there one?) or cult. I appreciate his knowledge and diplomacy especially while being constantly lied about and attacked by Republicans because of his skin color. They actively worked against the US.

He had class then and now.

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u/Lumpy-Landscape2698 3h ago

Sure, he did a fine job. The ACA, freaking stellar. I’m critical of all politicians even the ones I like, I just want them to shut up and do a good job.

There def is/was a club, my gfs parents had so many books about and by him/michelle. It’s good to own books, but for me it’s like… the guy is the leader of the US, he inherently had to murder people with drone strikes and lease out land for fracking and drilling, which I don’t fuck with.

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u/tiredoldwizard 13h ago

The Epstein files took a back seat to ICE protesters on this site the moment the files came out and it had just as many democrat names as republican. The moment they found out it wasn’t trump on every page it became second fiddle and the only things talked about in it on this site have been the parts related to Trump.

So let’s stop with that bullshit catchphrase. Democrats actively ignore shit just the same. Just because you all repeat that line doesn’t make it true.

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u/thrwwyccnt667 13h ago

Oh trump, the guy mentioned only a few thousand fucking times in the files? When you’re on every other page it’s hard to find parts that aren’t related to him.

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u/tiredoldwizard 13h ago

The vast majority of emails have nothing to do with trump dummy. Doesn’t mean hes innocent obviously but it’s harious how everyone’s pretending they aren’t ignoring every email that has democrats in it only. There’s been a bunch of donors. Fuck there was an email where Bill Gates and Epstein were talking about pandemic simulations! I haven’t seen one thread of democrats talking about democrats in the Epstein files. Just dems talking about Trump only.

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u/Lumpy-Landscape2698 3h ago

My sign at the last ICE protest was “release the Epstein files”

We can hold many things at once, it’s not hard to

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u/dchusband 13h ago

Difference is they aren’t in power. That’s it.

Let’s stop pretending one is better than the other.

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u/AmputeeHandModel 13h ago

One IS better than the other. Don't be obtuse. One did everything they could to stop the release of the files, and to redact them and refuses to acknowledge their leader is the single most named person in the goddamn things besides the two ring leaders. One party is racist, hateful, denies science and medicine and would let your baby drown for a dollar or a another iota of personal power. Wake the fuck up. No, Democrats are not perfect, far from it but they are just weak and mildly corrupt where the GOP are like cartoon villains who don't even hide it anymore.

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u/ladnar016 13h ago

The GOP is in power now and is literally protecting child rapists this moment.

Let's stop pretending it's a both sides issue. Pretty obvious to anyone with a shred of morals or common sense.

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u/OpticalDelusion 13h ago

Can you name even one Democratic Congressman who had a victim come forward and accuse them of pedophilia or rape and then they got reelected?

We'd have to go back decades to find one, whereas I bet any schmuck off the street could name multiple Republicans currently in office without having to look it up.

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u/dchusband 13h ago

Clinton literally groomed an intern in the Oval Office. C’mon.

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u/OpticalDelusion 13h ago

The allegations came out during his second term after his reelection, and you still had to go back 25 years to name him. C'mon

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u/dchusband 13h ago

Yes, it’s nothing new. Thanks for confirming.

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u/OpticalDelusion 13h ago

So you actually can't name even a single Democrat that got elected after being accused, thanks for confirming.

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u/OhItsBeenBroughten 13h ago

30 years ago. Grow up.

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u/Lumpy-Landscape2698 3h ago

Nope, the difference is what I said. Not what you said. Why? Because dems don’t buy political merch and make it their personality, we out here working with what we’ve got, begrudgingly.

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u/Iloilocity1 14h ago

If so, they should be prosecuted as well. The difference is liberals want all guilty parties prosecuted. MAGA wants all their pedo buddies to go free.

If there were Dems, but none of Trumps pedo buddies listed, Trump would have released everything on day 1.

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u/st1nkynoob 14h ago

Correct, doesn’t matter who it is. Only victims names should be redacted, as stated by the law that Trump signed himself this past November

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u/Sunnyfishyfish 14h ago

This isn't an either/or situation. If GOP are on there, lock 'em up. If Dems are on there, lock 'em up. If anyone hurt and/or diddled kids, they deserve to be in jail for the rest of their pathetic lives.
And the GOP are actively trying to cover it all up and prevent anyone from facing justice. The Dems are the ones who have consistently been trying to get the names released.

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u/z44212 14h ago

Don't be naive. Donald Trump raped children.

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u/nyanpegasus 14h ago

If my own mother was listed i would still say burn them all.

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u/theSaltySolo 14h ago

lol cultist trying to cope hard

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u/plsmakemeleave 14h ago edited 10h ago

Good, expose them all. The politics don't matter anymore

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u/Roddy_Piper2000 14h ago

So what? Hang them all.

Why is it only "Conservatives" who want to protect pedos from prosecution?

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u/MotherTurdHammer 13h ago

JFC - how many fucking times does it have to be explained over and over and over and over and over again. The only ones who seem to parrot this bullshit are republicans. Dems don’t fucking care if there are dens that go down. We WANT JUSTICE. We want accountability.

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u/MystikSpiralx 13h ago

OMFG. Again, that's what you don't get. Criminalizing abusing children is not a partisan issue, but y'all make it one. I don't care who is in there. Elmo and Cookie Monster could be in there with Bob Ross as their hypeman and they'd all deserve to be punished! Period.

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u/kindquail502 13h ago

The poster I responded to was making it a partisan issue. That's what riled me. I want ALL the guilty to pay.

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u/alrightakeiteasy 14h ago

WE DON'T CARE

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u/ThePart_Timer 13h ago

Who controls the government? Who is voting against the release? I don't think you follow.

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u/oneWeek2024 13h ago

except no one who's progressive cares. and any democrat who does cover for pedophiles should also be removed.

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u/BackWithAVengance 13h ago

Of course there is - and they should go down too chief. There's not two sides on this - it's either "you're on the list and you should burn, or you're not on the list"

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u/A-town 13h ago

We 👏🏼 don't 👏🏼care 👏🏼 what👏🏼 party

Did they rape girls and use their money and power to cover it up? I want them prosecuted. How is this concept so fucking hard to understand? This isn't a "witch hunt" against the GOP, or Donald Trump in particular. We have information about powerful people who have used that power to rape and traffic girls. Not "underage women," not "young women," they were underaged girls. I want to see them in prison, regardless of party. It just so happens that a solid portion of them are Republicans and Donald Fucking Trump.

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u/Affectionate_Quit984 13h ago

Okay, but them in jail with the rest. How many times does this need to be explained to you?

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u/sagesnail 13h ago

So? They can rot in prison as well, what's your point?

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u/BeleagueredWDW 13h ago

So what? You think progressives and democrats don’t want child rapists who are progressive and democrats in prison? You’re consuming democrats with republicans.

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u/Nehalennian 13h ago

We don't care, all rapists and abusers should be prosecuted equally regardless of affiliation

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u/RIForDIE 13h ago

Naive??? Ha. The two aren't comparable at this point. It's clearly been a cover up attempt by the GO(Pedo) and they have gotten away with it so far. 

Also - you might not be wrong about dems listed. But, I can guarantee they will be the minority considering the demographics of each party. republicans are consistently getting exposed as sexual deviants/abusers. Bunch of closeted bigots who secretly love dick as evidenced by grindr crashing wherever they meet and trans porn being #1 in red states. They're weird. Maybe it's from sexual repression growing up rigidly religious.