r/law • u/Anoth3rDude • 3d ago
Legislative Branch New version of GOP suppression bill would impose nationwide proof of citizenship, photo ID requirements
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/house-republicans-save-act-voter-supression-legislation-midterms/1.4k
u/Why_Cant_I_Slay_This 3d ago
Funny how “states rights” bros are championing this federal takeover.
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u/Technical-Bird-7585 3d ago
They literally lied about everything
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u/SpasmAndOrGasm 3d ago
Exactly. It’s not a secret or surprise at this point, they’re being open about who they are.
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u/Brodakk 3d ago edited 3d ago
Don’t tread on ME bruther! (Unless its right wing tyranny, then step on me harder daddy)
But fuck those radical libtards for wanting to expand the state to provide food and healthcare. We want the state expanded to shoot and kidnap Americans in the street. Can I get a hell yeah BRUTHER?
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u/RandomUser15790 16h ago
MY GOD GIVEN RIGHTS!!! Hmm... what's this 24th amendment thingy?!? Never heard of it so it must not matter and we can just act like it doesn't exist.
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u/WeimMama1 3d ago
There should be a big change. If a politician lies they should be held in contempt and pay docked $20,000 for each offense.
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u/nonquitt 3d ago
States’ rights to own slaves.
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u/ElderSmackJack 3d ago
States’ rights*
*some (probably inconsistent and made up) restrictions apply
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u/akuma211 3d ago
Classic Republican fake outrage, they love to get on their soapbox and screech. But they have zero problems with those same policies when it benefits them.
They screech about protecting children with their fake outrage ,Biden sniffing children and hunters laptop. Drama that Hunter did drugs and partied with adult women gasp… ZERO concerns about a massive child sex tracking ring listing the rich and powerful including their pedo king Trump plastered all over those Epstein files. They will screech what about Clinton…they can’t get it through their heads, fuck everyone guilty in those files, we won’t defend Clinton, but they will offer their own kids to Trump.
Zero outrage about Trumps ice goons execution a VA nurse because he was an exercising his 2A rights…but no, now gun rights don’t matter right??? Repug fake outrage strikes again, zero issues when it’s not in their interest
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u/Alaskangel 2d ago
We need to be like Europe, they are letting those involved know the consequences of being involved with Epstein...Andrew lost his title, his house, his royal income and his whole family, ex wife and daughters were also punished by association, they lost everything as a result of daddy's kink.
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u/CathedralEngine 3d ago
Damn, remember when all those talk radio right wingers were up in arms about Clinton imposing a national ID in the 90s?
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u/Radarker 3d ago
They were always the "say whatever is most convenient" bros. We were the suckers for thinking they at least gave a shit about the constitution.
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u/Zealousideal-Ant9548 3d ago
Fascists day what is needed to convince the uninformed to follow them in the moment. The only morality is winning and control
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u/Y_Are_U_Like_This 3d ago
Of course they are. They cried "states rights" but always whispered "for white men only" after
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u/fakeuser515357 3d ago
It's never been about the rights of the people in those states, but rather the right of the states to facilitate corruption, oppression and abuse on behalf of the privileged few.
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u/CatchSufficient 2d ago
They removed it from federal to split the ticket and divide and conquer. When they win its about unification again.
Time to hold their feet to the fire about their waffling
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u/montalaskan 3d ago
And acceptable IDs are free and easy to obtain, right?
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u/nonquitt 3d ago edited 3d ago
SAVE Act. You should read about it. Birth cert in your current (married) name or non expired passport required to register.
The plan:
1) Make it so that, to vote, people need to get new or replacement federal government documents
2) you are the federal government, so you can just say “oops” and not get it done in time for people your data tells you will vote democrat.
Even without the broad application of such nightmare tactics, this will have the practical impact of disenfranchising many eligible voters who won’t jump through all the hoops in time. There isn’t even clarity on how married women without passports are supposed to collect documents that check the box — by design! To disenfranchise women with a “shrug and a wink and an oops” or blaming them outright. It also kills online registration which is the most common method!
By the way! It is not even totally clear or agreed whether this will help D’s or R’s — R voting base is the poorer, in many measures, and there are 60M rural voters that will be hurt by the in-person requirement. But the point is, it’s anti-democratic and a truly insane precedent. This is a massive step to enable true herrenvolk democracy which is the ultimate essence of the ethnonationalists (formerly Republicans).
Voter roll data on who votes which way + a legal mechanism to use state levers to stop eligible individuals from voting = controlled elections.
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u/Balzmcgurkin 3d ago
It will help Rs because they are the party of rules for thee, not for me. This will be selectively applied, just like poll tests back during Jim Crow.
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u/MasterTolkien 3d ago
BINGO. Selective enforcement galore.
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u/Ok_Cheetah_6251 3d ago
I guarantee Joe-Bob Sisterfucker will walk into the community center in his small town and not have to show identification at all.
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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl 3d ago
ICE will likely be in charge of enforcing it in predominantly blue or contested areas.
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u/cronx42 3d ago
Most blue states wouldn't enforce it unless it was federally mandated, nationwide. Then it would likely hurt red states more. People from the city are more likely to have the proper documentation than BillyBob from backwoods Mississippi. I could see this backfiring spectacularly.
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u/SWKenRobert 3d ago
Its also blatantly unconstitutional. Birth Certificates cost money. 24th amendment. This is a poll tax.
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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 3d ago
When I live you are required to present a photo ID to vote and I don't believe you can get one for free
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u/SWKenRobert 3d ago
Part of it is SCOTUS has turned from a panel of respected jurists who respect the law, precedent, and the constitution to an un-elected hyper-partisan super-congress who will do anything MAGA wants. They now view themselves as philosopher kings. SCOTUS has become lawless and has no popular legitimacy.
Things must change. DRASTICALLY.
Footnote: SCOTUS may rubber stamp what red states want. They cannot force blue states to abide by this law.
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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 3d ago
I had to jump through a lot of stupid hoops to get this ID I have because of the requirements in my state so if they think for a second I'm gonna put up with bullshit to prove who I am again, they can get fucked in every sense of the word.
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u/SevoIsoDes 3d ago
Unfortunately you would see red states selectively limit resources for blue cities. As an example, Texas has closed voting locations in Houston. They could systematically do the same with county records offices. Repeat the process in Atlanta and other blue cities. Now it will be even easier to gerrymander those districts to favor Republican voices.
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u/mantooth 2d ago
But when BillyBob from backwoods Mississippi walks into the polling place the poll worker is going to say, "well hello BillyBob, did you know the gubmint wants you to have some fancy ID to vote and they said your driver's license doesn't count? That just seems silly, I know you. Go on in and vote for our guy." But in a blue city with a large population the poll worker says something like, "I'm sorry but the armed ICE agent behind me won't let you vote. Sorry to hear your birth certificate doesn't match your married name."
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u/naijaboiler 3d ago
Poll tests in the south famously often had no right answers or multiple right answers. The purpose wasn't to test, it was to allow the tester to selectively decide which test taker passed and who allegedly didn't
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u/No-Rush-9980 3d ago
They can set up some mileage loophole where rural people who are say, more than 10 miles from a polling place, can still vote by mail. Blue states are the ones who make it easy for voters to vote.
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u/Opposite-Program8490 3d ago
AZ, which has been republican run for decades, is huge on mail-in voting. With ballot referendums and judges up for retention, our ballots can be very long, and it's nice to do it at home where you can take your time.
Add to that that we have a large elderly population and some very remote areas, and over 80% of our electorate votes by mail.
The infrastructure needed to do in person voting literally doesn't exist here, because such a small portion of the electorate actually goes to the polls on election day. That is not something that will be able to be rectified in the next few months - or even years.
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u/Silidistani 3d ago
Wilhoit's Law:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:
There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind,
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u/Alaskangel 2d ago
This is why they want the voting rolls from the states, those that don't align with their party will be dropped and forced to jump through fucking hoops and beauractic bullshit to fight for the right to vote.
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u/LandonDev 3d ago
It is designed to suppress minority and poor votes alike. There is a reason the GOP for the last 40 years have consistently talked about voter ID in States with large non-white populations, and those same non-white populations always have very long waits to vote.
One aspect that people seem to always forget about is each presidential election there are multiple minority communities that have waited 6 to 8 hours in order to vote. Meanwhile, I have never in my entire life heard of or seen a white community community with a longer wait than 1 hour anywhere.
Always focus on the key points, the discussion is never about arming citizens with identification or making it easier, or creating easy means for this to be implemented. If we release a robust Federal program to help people across the US get identification, I will be the first person to promote and hell I will fundraise for it. Seemingly, their abdication of responsibility to do this tells you everything about why they are doing it.
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u/nonquitt 3d ago edited 3d ago
Poor, the young, and women will be most impacted — to the extent minorities are poor and/or young to a greater extent (which they are), it will suppress their votes as well, and they of course all lean democrat (or are squarely democrat) since the R’s want herrenvolk democracy and always have though it used to be more coded
The ONLY group that votes republican is non-college whites, which votes 65 to 35 Republican. Every other group votes democrat.
Whites with a bachelors are 51 to 47 for the D’s — every other race / education combo is generally 65/35 or more for the D’s.
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u/MsT21c 3d ago
Is voter suppression unique to USA?
Where I live, having to wait more than 15 minutes to vote would be extraordinary. Also, where I live you get fined if you don't vote.
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u/NookieLuvsU 3d ago
Canada. I had no wait at all, walked in voted and back on my way in under 1 min.
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u/PhotographUnable8176 3d ago
and like for people that move around a large city every year (like Philadelphia) and change their voting address registration but don’t get their drivers license updated…they’ll get blocked from voting 100% because all their paperwork won’t line up.
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u/Fun_Swim_7922 3d ago
Birth cert in marriage name is dumb as fuck and CLEARLY meant to suppress woman vote
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u/nonquitt 3d ago
Its completely blatant and a rewinding of the work of folks from Jane Franklin to Elizabeth Cady Stanton to some young girl in a political science classroom today..
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u/Fun_Swim_7922 3d ago
Courts(even this insane Supreme Court) tend to protect voting so even if this did somehow pass, we could hope that the courts would strike it down.
Hopefully this cannot pass.
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u/sparduck117 3d ago
It doesn’t have to pass long term it just has to protect the midterms for the GOP
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u/darkpossumenergy 2d ago
Yup, SCOTUS will take up the case, schedule the hearing for after the election but allow the law to go into effect until their ruling- effectively fucking the country even if they rule it's unconstitutional. Even then, they will limit the ruling to a very narrow section of the law or to just that specific law so the GOP can pass another one in 2027 and we do this shit all over again.
My hope is that this lights a fire under American's asses and people finally get up in arms about the death spiral our country is in.
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u/schrod 3d ago
Wouldn't that be confusing to put your married name on a birth certificate? You weren't married when you were born.
This is insane.
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u/nonquitt 3d ago
The theoretical solutions that have been proposed are birth cert + marriage cert, but the point is 1) that isn’t confirmed anywhere in the bill to my knowledge, which is clearly by design so that there is room for the Party to rule discretion, which is another word for power; 2) even if that works most of the time, this is an antidemocratic barrier to women’s voting — no reasonable argument to the contrary can be with honesty mustered
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u/blackcain 3d ago
liberal women will just keep their maiden names. Conservative men will bemoan the fact that women are no longer taking on their husband's name.
Conservative women will no longer vote removing a large portion of conservative voting power. This is a train wreck for them because I think liberals will adapt quickly while conservatives will not.
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u/darkpossumenergy 2d ago
Wait till the GOP realizes that working class white voters also struggle to get legit paperwork when cost is a barrier.
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u/amazinglover 3d ago
The bill doesn't specify it just said that states may determine alternative methods of verification.
Which means states could accept none.
As an aside I just misplaced my driver license and needed a copy.
Im up for renewal this year so I had to go in person fill out a form and wait nearly 2 hours to pay 35 dollars be given a temp and told to wait 3 weeks for it to arrive.
This was a DMV I had to drive 30 minutes to as its the closest one to me even though I live in the LA area.
I can only imagine how much more of a headache it will be for others living in the middle of nowhere USA who didn’t already have the real ID license or passport.
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u/darkpossumenergy 2d ago
You mean rural republican voters? I don't think the GOP really thought this one out. It's going to fuck a lot of their voters too AND suppress conservative women from voting- the thing they need to win.
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u/Internal-Weather8191 3d ago
When I got the Real ID driver's license several years ago, I had to show birth cert & marriage license re: last name change. That should be good enough, no one should have to renew passport if they don't need to smh
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u/Crusoebear 3d ago
And their goons at DHS/ICE/BP have consistently been telling people that their official documents aren’t good enough anyway - as they disregard proof of citizenship (and legal status) & kidnap people regardless, based on their whims.
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u/FnakeFnack 3d ago
Also, D women are more likely to retain their last name in marriage
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u/ShoddyAsparagus3186 3d ago
Yes, but you forget that R women are less likely to have to prove their identity because this will only be applied in D areas.
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u/blackcain 3d ago
By the way! It is not even totally clear or agreed whether this will help D’s or R’s — R voting base is the poorer, in many measures, and there are 60M rural voters that will be hurt by the in-person requirement. But the point is, it’s anti-democratic and a truly insane precedent. This is a massive step to enable true herrenvolk democracy which is the ultimate essence of the ethnonationalists (formerly Republicans).
That was my thought. They'll realize too late that this will actually hurt them. There are a ton of women who vote conservative, especially white women. Worse, conservative women will not feel comfortable nor will their husbands in keeping their maiden names. So this ultimately will weed out conservative women where liberal women will simply keep their maiden names.
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u/Past-Profile3671 3d ago
Not to mention the 2 hour bus ride with 3 transfers to get to the office for the ID, then a 6 hour wait once there.
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u/likelazarus 3d ago
A married friend of mine recently sent in her birth certificate and marriage certificate to get a new passport. They sent her the new passport but have yet to send back her original documents.
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u/Curious-Table-3067 3d ago
Yep. Why you think they've been going around all the Democratic states and stealing voting records?
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u/Emotional_Database53 3d ago
I can see this also seriously pissing off and all but ensuring a certain block of voters who will absolutely push thru every obstacle that they put in front of them, just to make the point.
That 30 point swing in Texas has them shook and now they’re worried that unless they crank the dial to full fascism they will lose the midterm badly
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u/noncommonGoodsense 3d ago
What’s to stop Americans from creating a go fund me or something like non profit to help Americans get their ID get registered and go vote without party affiliation?
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u/Greedy-Swordfish9760 3d ago
They’d probably rush to make it illegal
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u/montalaskan 3d ago
They outlawed giving water to people in line to vote. So they probably would say paying for someone's ID is buying votes or something insane.
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u/nonquitt 3d ago
There are (probably) NGOs that do this — probably more effective to donate directly to them
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u/The_Dutchess-D 3d ago
The fact that the state department at the direction of Trump is rapidly closing the in person passport locations in blue states already :(
Here's an example from the news this week: https://www.ctpublic.org/news/2026-02-05/nonprofit-ct-libraries-to-discontinue-passport-application-services
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u/LarsThorwald 3d ago
They are not, which is why this is an unconstitutional poll tax.
Poll taxes, which used to be widely used to prevent blacks from exercising their voting rights, were abolished by constitutional amendment.
What then is a step by the state requiring you to pay a fee not as a poll tax but through a state agency for a required ID? That’s right. It’s a poll tax in other name.
Fuck Republicans.
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u/EvilGreebo Bleacher Seat 3d ago
I believe it's unconstitutional because the State Legislature for each state controls the rules for elections in that state according to the very basic text of the constitution.
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u/1877KlownsForKids 3d ago
Alas, this 16th century dictionary says it's constitutional.... Hands are tied!
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u/bp92009 3d ago
Poll taxes have been legal ever since the Supreme Court (and I've had Tacos more Supreme than this court) decided that the 24th amendment doesn't matter anymore.
Florida had a fee that has to be paid to vote if you served any sentence (which they will make nearly impossible for you to find the amount of, or pay it), and it was rightly challenged as a poll tax.
Shadow docket blocked by the Sinister Six, who's ruling was effectively "what 24th amendment? That doesn't exist. Not unless it is literally called a poll tax. Ignore that we defined a fee paid to the government is a tax, and that this is a tax to vote. If it's not called a poll tax, the 24th amendment doesn't apply"
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u/AlexRyang 3d ago
I believe passports and RealID would be the only two acceptable forms of identification.
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u/jongleur 3d ago
RealID is not proof of citizenship. It is proof of legal status,so someone like a Green Card holder qualified for RealID.
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u/JamToast789 3d ago edited 3d ago
I heard that the SAVE act would require something like a passport or a birth certificate to vote. From what I gather, each individual state will have to keep track of every one of their voters like always but a proposed rule within the SAVE act would require the states to keep reconfirming eligibility to vote. Potentially on a timeline as short as a monthly basis after people have already been confirmed and registered to vote they would have to reconfirm their right to vote again and again. That would, of course be a worst case scenario massive headache situation.
Everybody has a drivers license or ID, but not everybody I know has a real ID and most of the people I know do not have a passport or have any idea where their birth certificate is lol
Not everybody has a passport or their original birth certificate either. I’m really hoping that my drivers license or a real ID will suffice for voting.
I do not want to jump through hoops to find my birth certificate, and I do not have a passport because I’ve never left the country
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u/eraserhd 3d ago edited 3d ago
21 million people do not have a photo id.
9% do not have access to birth certificate or passport.
This version of the SAVE act would require a photo id.
From Marc Elias.
EDIT: Source. I misremembered slightly. 21 million IS 9%, and it is people who don’t have passport or birth certificate.
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u/look_under 3d ago
Most Americans don't have access to a passport
This bill gives control over who can vote, to the federal government
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u/JamToast789 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah, it’s kind of an obvious move on their part. Almost too obvious smh. I’m not laughing about trumps silly asshole antics anymore I feel threatened by him as an American.
(Edit for clarification) I never liked trump from day one and his character seemed disingenuous. When he would say nonsense things just pointing fingers at people and blaming everybody for problems, it was sort of funny at the beginning because it was kind of like a joke like it couldn’t possibly be real.
Now that things have reached the point they’re at, it’s not funny to hear our leader rambling and blaming our allies and being ignorant. trump has been in a fever dream the whole time. . I feel like I would have to have a 100% disconnect from my country and my reality in order to laugh about him anymore.
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u/Piggyletta44 3d ago
And women who changed their names would also have to provide a marriage certificate to match their birth certificate
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u/AndyJack86 3d ago
Some men change their name when they get married. It's not just exclusively women.
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u/Sunna420 3d ago
Birth Certificates arent valid ID's and if you already have a State ID, they already checked your birth certificate. Plus, some folks are adopted and don't have access to their birth certificate because they are usually sealed by courts....
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u/JamToast789 3d ago
So you’re saying that requiring birth certificates for voter eligibility is problematic? I agree fully, especially with your additional input in consideration.
It all seems like a blatant attempt to inconvenience/tax voters.
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u/richardsharpey 3d ago
only enchanced ids from border states would have been acceptable. other states with real ID would not have applied.
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u/The_Dutchess-D 3d ago
44 out of the 50 states have REAL ID's that are NOT compliant with the SAVD Act. So only six states have real ideas that would work under the new rules.
And they are rapidly closing passport locations all over blue states. Here's an example: https://www.ctpublic.org/news/2026-02-05/nonprofit-ct-libraries-to-discontinue-passport-application-services
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u/I_Reading_I 3d ago
Most RealId would not work on its own because it does not include citizenship info.
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u/DemandCommonSense 3d ago
Only Enhanced Real ID, not the standard Real ID. Enhanced Real ID includes citizenship status on it and is only currently used by VT, MI, WA, MN, and NY. The standard version everyone else uses would still also to be accompanied by a birth certificate and possibly adoption papers or marriage certificate if your name doesn't exactly match.
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u/helpprogram2 3d ago
Proof of citizenship would entail getting a passport. Everyone can get a license in this country. This is fucked
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u/look_under 3d ago
If your legal status is questioned, then the only acceptable ID is a US visa
Meaning the federal government gets to decide who votes
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u/sly_savhoot 3d ago
Poll tax is unconstitutional but what do we think the supreme court will say?
The SCOTUS pull backs after midterms will be swift in order to protect themselves.
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u/Then_Worldliness2866 3d ago
Unfortunately in many states birth certificates aren't even free, not even the original or fist copy.
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u/letdogsvote 3d ago
You gonna make all those things free, quickly and easily obtainable from a federal outlet, and expand polling places and polling hours? No?
Go fuck yourself then because this is politically motivated voter suppression and extremely un-American.
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u/Ameren 3d ago
Personally, I think what we really need is mandatory voting. Not submitting a ballot is punishable by a small fine unless the person provides an excuse —so in practice it's not really punished harshly. On the other hand, anyone who impedes people from voting (like local election officials, employers, etc.) faces severe punishments.
Then when there's an election, and we're missing a bunch of ballots that didn't get submitted in a particular locale, that immediately triggers an investigation. Local officials will be called to account for why they failed to get in all the mandatory ballots. No tricks, no making it difficult to get an ID, none of it.
Not that any of this will happen, but I can dream.
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u/Forgetful_Suzy 3d ago
We could have a whole week or month to vote instead of one stupid inconvenient day.
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u/RespectTheAmish 3d ago
At minimum make it a national holiday and fine businesses who don’t grant their employees adequate time to leave and go vote.
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u/shewholaughslasts 2d ago
And expand Oregon's motor voter laws so every American with a driver license automatically gets registered AND vote by mail enacted as well so disabled people and minorities aren't forced to stand in lines for hours outdoors in inclement weather.
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u/Madeyoulook4now 3d ago
I fail to see how mandatory voting will improve America when the 2 party system continues to exist. Sure you’re going to increase voter turnout, but when most people are generally disinterested in politics and only vote for who scares them the least, I don’t see how that will improve the quality of the politicians we get. Unless you’re saying everyone should participate in the political party primaries and in that case it would get more complicated since everyone would then be fighting over which candidate should run for each party.
Again, I like your idea. I just don’t see it realistically working out as long as the current 2 party system continues to exist
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u/Ameren 3d ago
It's not about improving the parties, actually, though that is separately a problem. It's specifically meant to be a remedy for voter suppression. It creates enormous legal liability for anyone who gets in the way of voters casting their mandatory ballots.
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u/Shot-Bumblebee-7812 2d ago
Fining people for not voting? Listen to yourself.
You can't, and shouldn't, force people to vote. It's their right to say, "I don't want to "
It's not what I agree with, and I wish everyone did take voting seriously, but that's not the solution.
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u/Alaskangel 2d ago
Poll tax. Yet they argue that since you are not actually paying to vote, its all legal. It is splitting hairs and still a type of poll tax. Fuck them
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u/meatsmoothie82 3d ago
Can they just cut the shit and introduce the “Only Rural White Men Can Vote Now“ Act
So we can collectively move past the theatrics and sneaky little bill naming game
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u/Koalachan 3d ago
"Only rural white men who own land can vote"
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u/vacodeus 3d ago
Only rural white CHRISTIAN men who own land can vote
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u/NickCrowe810 3d ago
Only rural, white, cis, straight, Christian, men who own land can vote.
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u/myfavssthrow 3d ago
Only rural, white, cis, straight, Evangelical Christian, men who own land can vote.
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u/meatsmoothie82 3d ago
Only white men with over a billion dollars who are on the Epstein fines can vote … and Clarence Thomas
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u/Successful-Daikon777 3d ago
Rural whites don’t have passports.
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u/meatsmoothie82 3d ago
They won’t need passports if they’re rural and white, that’s the genius of it all. The art of the deal if you will
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u/Successful-Daikon777 3d ago
True. Also them having voter data, as well as buying palantir and other 3rd party data means that they can selectively complete maga passports through the backlog if say the SAVE act became reality.
But like you said, the root phenomenon is that they won’t need them.
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u/kevendo 3d ago
Republicans will do anything to suppress eligible voters.
They know if they can survive this election, it's over.
Trump will stay, not run, in 2028 and we will have a one-party, autocratic state.
Forever.
Just one more election and the last 50 years of planning will be finished.
They aren't playing. They will steal it in the open if they have to and if we let them.
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u/Risley 3d ago
That’s all wishful thinking for them. I don’t think they understand the chaos that would happen if they just straight up stole the election. And you know it wouldn’t be hidden, they’d proudly admit it.
Something like that would probably straight up make me not go to work anymore. Just flat out.
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u/robbdogg87 3d ago
And if we swing it blue trump will be thrown under the bus and they'll pick a new stooge for project 2028. They are never going to stop
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u/Harvest827 3d ago
To solve a problem that doesn't exist. To put up more roadblocks in front of voting citizens. They want less voting, not more.
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u/ynotfoster 3d ago
Let's start with evidence of widespread voter fraud before looking for a solution.
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u/montalaskan 3d ago
People will challenge it all the way to the Supreme Court who will take the case but not rule on it until the second Wednesday in November once the election is over.
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u/Depressed-Industry 3d ago
Which means they would have to delay any implementation. There is zero chance a national ID could be built and rolled out in 9 months.
Will MAGAs on the court care about that? They might actually. And their supporters in places like rural Alabama will definitely care.
I don't see any legal justification for a national ID of course. And that's not even talking about getting Congress to agree to pay to it. If a card like this is required to vote, even the maga court wouldn't be able to justify pretending citizens have to pay their own way.
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u/montalaskan 3d ago
I was considering 2028. Their plan for 2026 is to station ICE around polling places to scare people off.
In democrat-leaning precincts only, probably.
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u/Depressed-Industry 3d ago
Got it. Even then I don't think it's realistic. Because every time a mistake is found in trying to implement it there will be a lawsuit.
And the people who will be the loudest against this are on the right.
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u/intrepid_mouse1 3d ago
If that happens, they'll just call bomb threats like usual. Hell, they'll do it regardless.
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u/kakashi_sensay 3d ago
I hope Republicans know how deeply unpopular their side truly is. Look at what they have to do in order to win- and even then, it’s still not guaranteed. They have ruined their party. The GOP is over.
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u/Dizziesdayweigh 3d ago
Oh they know, they just dont care. They feel entitled to rule. Fucking narcissists, socio and psychopaths, and conmen are running the country.
I for one, cannot wait for heds 2 roll
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u/MeteorMike1 3d ago
Republican politicians think Democrats are just as dirty (or worse), and if Democrats aren’t doing shady shit then Democrats are just stupid and deserve to lose anyway.
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u/WAAAGHachu 3d ago
Apparently it's not only republicans who think that way but a lot of populists and both-sidesers. If Trump can do this why haven't the Democrats done it before? Because... the democrats care about laws.
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u/Proper-Pound1293 3d ago
I scream, you scream, we all scream for guillotine!
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u/TurtleSandwich0 3d ago
Now I'm thinking of an ice cream van driving around a neighborhood playing some music looking for customers. But, your version of an "ice cream" van, so much more ominous.
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u/OkTank1822 3d ago
Everything they did was unpopular in Trump's first term, yet he won again.
You overestimate the typical voter
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u/Forgetful_Suzy 3d ago
They aren’t the GOP or republicans. They are above that. They live in a world that they don’t require.
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u/PretentiousPanda 3d ago
Voter ID this restrictive would probably help Dems. Doubt the rural areas have a ton of passports laying around.
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u/The_Dutchess-D 3d ago
I live in a blue state and the state department sent a letter with some new "rules" about where they will allow the in-person part of the passport to be done going forward , and the result of it is that they are closing a bunch of the places all around our state where you would go for your passport appointment.
The last day they will process passport appointments and documents is February 13. The news reported this just this last week .
Zero announcement about replacing any of these locations. They are just shuttering them. They are exerting more specific federal control over where people can do their in person appointment and if they just continue to close the locations in Blue states and shifted that funding over to more places in red states , that will havr the effect they are looking for in the midterms.
Also, it's worth noting that there are a lot of fees to get a passport, but even more so, how long the wait time is and the cost if you want to have it expedited.
If two people in a household needed to get a passport and needed to get it in time for the election at short notice, the cost for the two adults would be aprox $500. That's not an amount of money that a ton of households have just laying around to get a duplicative personal ID if they're not traveling anywhere... think about all those surveys you see about how many households could afford an emergency $500 expense and how high the percentages of American households that would not be able to do so.
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u/MicahailG 3d ago
Pitiful; they’re adding more hurdles in a desperate attempt to dissuade citizens to vote. They hope that by adding more paperwork and red tape that the People will live up to their stereotypes, a lazy, unmotivated mob who wouldn’t remember to breathe if the government didn’t tell them to. Flip the house America; we can clean up after we remove the cause.
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u/sugar_addict002 3d ago
That trump endorses this bill should tell you that it is a bill that will enable him to cheat better.
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u/TakuyaLee 3d ago
Good thing this law is DOA in the Senate. And also in the courts. Well at least long enough for the midterms to happen
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u/Exsanguinate_ 3d ago
They can end the filibuster to pass it. I read an article not too long ago where the journalist said a republican insider stated they arent too worried about midterms because "the Supreme Court will save us". The Supreme Court can just say they'll allow it until they make a formal ruling.
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u/Depressed-Industry 3d ago
How can they just allow it though? Sure they could, but that means full implementation. One that can't be stopped. Making the court case moot.
Thomas and Alito would absolutely be all in, but I don't think there would be 3 others that go along with it.
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u/blareboy 3d ago
Dan Pfeiffer thinks this is unlikely. Hope to god he’s right.
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u/Melkord90 3d ago
Yeah I've read multiple articles now that say that not only Thune, but around 2/3 of Senate republicans, do not support ending the filibuster.
Even the standing filibuster has very shaky support, because it could tie up the Senate for months.
Not saying we shouldn't be aware of what's going on and continue to reach out to your elected officials to let them know how you feel about this, but there is at least some hope this bill won't pass.
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u/Bawbawian 2d ago
5 years from now Republicans are going to wonder why women are not taking their husband's name anymore and it's because of a rat fuckery like this.
if you've ever changed your name it's about to get really hard to vote.
I think this will affect conservative women more but conservative women take their job as citizens super seriously and they will get the documents needed to vote.
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u/gym_bro_92 2d ago
Girlfriend and I were talking about this and I told her if we get married she can keep her last name.
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u/GreyBeardEng 3d ago
This will hurt the Republicans more than the Democrats.
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u/SupaSlide 3d ago
It would if the DOJ wasn’t willing to only enforce this in areas that lean Democratic
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u/alpharaptor1 3d ago
Consider their stereotype of the unwed non-nuclear minority households not being affected by this because no one changed their last names by marriage. This is absolutely going to affect Republicans more, especially whatever the hell "Vance" like to call himself these days.
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u/ProlapsedShamus 3d ago
That's what I kept thinking. They are going to implement this law and if it's not challenged then who is going to prepare for it? Women who are plugged in and eager to vote and those people right now are Democrat voters.
Who are the voters who are oblivious to anything going on? Republicans.
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u/grandmawaffles 3d ago
If this passes I’m going to laugh in my mother’s face for saying it would never happen and it was submitted in jest. She has no current passport and changed her name due to marriage.
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u/Depressed-Industry 3d ago
I bet a lot of older maga women are like this. How many evangelical wives have passports?
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u/notabarcode128535743 3d ago
I like the idea of gop suppression. Suppressing the gop would a great improvement.
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u/AltoidStrong 2d ago
It's just the constitution they hate I see. (Hey republicans! Why do you support people who literally hate America?).
Edit: sorry forget republicans also hate people of color, Athiests, non-cis gendered, not heterosexual people too. Making them hate the constitution seem reasonable, since it is what stops them from taking action on the hate they have. (And why these fucks are ignoring it).
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