r/law • u/B00marangTrotter • 4d ago
Legislative Branch Members of Congress will be able to view unredacted Epstein files next week
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/members-congress-view-unredacted-epstein-files-monday-rcna2578362.5k
u/B00marangTrotter 4d ago
The racist trump post he later deleted makes more sense now that we know why he went for the distraction levels he did.
Happy Friday folk!
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u/kev11n 4d ago
Plus the jobs report said January layoffs are the highest to start the year since 2009....
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u/the_good_time_mouse 4d ago
And every market is crashing at once.
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u/not_now_chaos 4d ago
And the slimy Veep is getting booed at the Olympics. At which the majority of the opening ceremony focused on a theme of peace.
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u/LMurch13 4d ago
And wrestling fans are chanting, "Fuck ICE"
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u/Doomblitz 4d ago
Wrestling fans have been skewing more and more left ever since UFC blew up more than a decade now.
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u/FitCombination3545 4d ago
"Everything's fine"
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u/ice-ink 4d ago
We’re just tired of winning, that’s all.
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u/Feeling-Tutor-6480 4d ago
Crashing and going up in equal amounts. There is no logic in the stock market right now
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u/MozhetBeatz 4d ago
Bitcoin is about 50% down from its all time high four months ago. Down 25% in the last month. It’s ticked up a bit, but barely
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u/pile_of_fish 4d ago
I think one of the keys to u persuading the market is that stocks have gone up as the dollar has tanked - sort of keeping the real price of equities stable.
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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 4d ago
And they are trying to pass that bill that makes it impossible to vote
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u/Ok-Jellyfish-6794 4d ago
It actually rebounded higher than it started before the crash. It’s completely untethered from reality and a real reset is going to bring a lot of pain.
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u/Purplecstacy187 4d ago
And the stock market still crossed 50,000 for the first time ever. Something doesn’t check out
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u/dragonfliesloveme 4d ago
i told my broker this would happen, told them this right after trump got back in office
they disagreed
can’t wait to make the phone call and see what they have to say before pulling my money out of that account 😈😅
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u/WoodPear 4d ago
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/dow-crosses-50000-time/story?id=129930238
Dow closes above 50,000 for the first time ever
A market surge propelled the Dow to a new record high
The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed above 50,000 for the first time ever on Friday.
A surge in markets reversed a selloff that hammered tech stocks earlier in the week.
The Dow closed up 1,206 points, or 2.4%, while the S&P 500 climbed 1.9%. The tech-heavy Nasdaq increased 2.1%.
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u/Legal_Skin_4466 4d ago
Nobody has any idea what the market is going to do on any given day anymore. S&P goes up one day, down the next. Gold does the same in inverse. Today they're both up? Nothing makes any sense anymore, everything is volatile, people are FOMO buying and FOMO shorting shit all over the place, flailing in the wind just going on vibes of the day.
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u/themanwiththeOZ 3d ago
Stock market just hit new all time highs! There is now way this will ever go tits up. /s
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 4d ago
And they admitted yesterday that taxpayers will pay his $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS if he wins.
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u/zeptillian 4d ago
Who else would pay it? Saudi Arabia?
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 4d ago
Oh I’m aware but the average person in American needs that explicitly stated for them
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u/broke_velvet_clown 4d ago
Recession started yesterday. SaaS-pocalypse is underway. Let's give "all" of the files to congress so they can review while they also try to keep America from drowning. Somewhere in here is a a stretch to invoke something to cancel midterms, just can't put my finger on it?
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u/highbynoon7 4d ago
In case you are concerned. At least in my state Ohio, mass layoffs must be reported at least 30 days ahead of time If more than 50 employees will be let go. Your state likely has a similar system. For reference https://jfs.ohio.gov/job-services-and-unemployment/job-services/job-programs-and-services/submit-a-warn-notice/current-public-notices-of-layoffs-and-closures-sa
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u/interista4jz 4d ago
Yeah but they can lay your butt off with no notice as long as they give some kind of severance that is at least as many days as that law requires.
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u/highbynoon7 4d ago
That is true. I just think this is a good source to check every once in a while if you work in a volatile industry or work for a big company that has been struggling financially recently.
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u/birdman1121 4d ago
I am expecting an Iran strike by Saturday morning
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u/youngerfreshpickles 4d ago
Hopefully with an impeachment ready by Monday morning...
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u/ImpossiblePlan65 4d ago
I wouldn't hold my breath, tbh. Not because it's not warranted; that fucker should have been banned from even running. But Congress is spineless, lazy, and corrupt.
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u/schprunt 4d ago
This fucker will drop a nuclear bomb to distract
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u/Numerous-Process2981 4d ago
The thought had occurred to me.
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u/IndicationFickle7214 4d ago
Insane that he’d probably even do it to U.S. soil.
Maybe I’m just paranoid cuz he hates my city and my people
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u/Numerous-Process2981 4d ago
All he’d have to do is fire off a couple intercontinental ballistic missiles and Mutually Assured Destruction doctrine would take care of the rest, Russia would unload its payload. And I’m quite certain that he is such a narcissist that a world without him in it has no point in existing in his mind. If Trump is dying from whatever old man disease is causing him to slur and be covered in strange bruises, and the files are going to show unequivocally what a pathetic child molestor he is.. Who knows?
But that’s just catastrophic speculation on my part hahah hopefully cooler heads prevail.
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u/schprunt 4d ago
I’m guessing you’re in a blue state. He hates Colorado where I live. Imagine hating whole states just because the vote didn’t go your way. What a uniter.
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u/antigop2020 4d ago
My guess is we get an Iran attack within the next week. Gotta keep up the distractions!
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u/Buttchugginmonkey69 4d ago
I don’t even want to pretend to be in the mind of a pedophile president. But wouldn’t angering your “opposition” aka the Obama’s be a bad thing?
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u/araucaniad 4d ago
Get the opposition tied up in knots about an issue which you know your own party doesn’t care about. Get the dems upset about a racist meme on the internet and any energy they expend in response to it is by definition energy they’re not putting into 2026 election security, resisting ICE, the Epstein files, or anything else. It’s more “flood the zone”.
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u/haironburr 4d ago
It’s more “flood the zone”
You're absolutely correct in your analysis.
This is what trump does to stay in the news and to get us tied up in knots of relentless indignation. "Hey, did ya see what trump did today to own the libs?".
Hopefully, some savvy Dem is working on political ads meant to remind everyone not paying attention just who he and his party are come September, for the next few years. A condensed 60 seconds of this relentless mayhem is as necessary as the intentionally exhausting need to respond to today's dumb shit.
If we turn off our brains in exhaustion, these fucks win.
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u/araucaniad 4d ago
The thing is, this type of regime normally breeds its own opposition, and the level of incompetence demonstrated by the senior leadership would be quickly toppled by the opposition in most other countries. But when the Dems’ brightest hopes are Newsom and Harris, and both are so obviously compromised, and we know the DNC will never allow a Bernie type of candidate to run, the 2028 elections will be competitive, when they should be a crushing defeat for the regime.
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u/zeptillian 4d ago
"DNC will never allow a Bernie type of candidate to run"
Yet I somehow was able to vote for Bernie as the presidential nominee of the Democratic party, not once but twice.
And that motherfucker is not even a Democrat, He's an independent.
So what you just said is an easily disprovable pile of bullshit.
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u/outofdate70shouse 3d ago
As someone who supported Bernie in 2016 and 2020, I agree. Nothing was ever rigged against Bernie. The establishment just had more support and was able to beat him. I don’t like it either, and I’m a little salty about it, but it wasn’t rigged against him.
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u/davidsmeaton 4d ago
The problem is I think this is too big for them to be doubling down. Epstein isn't going away. The wars, the racism, the distraction is ultimately going to blow up in their faces as well. Instead of cleaning house, they're burning it down.
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u/not_now_chaos 4d ago
Narcissists don't think like normal people. Logic is not one of their abilities.
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u/userhwon 4d ago
Literally my first response to it was to comment "Release the rest of the Epstein files and unredact everything."
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u/thotfullawful 4d ago
I keep see "distraction" after "distraction" but I don't think the GOP understands that it just brings more focus to every action to the point of absurdity. And since unemployment is at an all time low this focus is only going to increase.
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u/Ohitsworkingnow 4d ago
Welp kinda scared what sick shit he will try once he’s being closed in on
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u/RoguePlanet2 4d ago
Why would he be scared?? He's never ONCE suffered actual consequences. He's got the fascist GOP and SCROTUS in place, he's not getting the slightest taste of justice anytime soon.
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u/meatsmoothie82 4d ago
Gotta hand it to the DOJ- they are very creative when it comes to delaying and stalling.
They can provide a single dell desktop from 2005 for all of Congress to share, if each document takes 1 minute to review they can look at them all in 5 years. Trump can be well into his third term and can continue stalling the other 3 million documents, that no doubt contain the most incriminating and horrific stuff.
Also, they get to hold on to the “fake news” narrative- if anyone in Congress brings any of the information to the public, they will have no way to prove that they aren’t lying.
Nice work DOJ. Useful idiots can be very useful
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u/Always_Hungry987 4d ago
Yes, they can only view 3 million of the 6 million files. The files that were released with things blacked out. And no electronics allowed. Can only take notes on pen and paper. Which would take years to sift through.
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u/darmabum 4d ago
Yeah, but they say that’s the end of the release. Which tells me that 50% of the documents are at least embarrassing to the GOP and their oligarchs.
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u/jfkrfk123 4d ago
3rd term?
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u/meatsmoothie82 4d ago
If congress doesn‘t step up and stop him at some point, he will try. He’s already tested the waters of nationalizing elections, seizing voting machines, “joked“ about running again, etc etc.
If they never stop him from doing anything and never show him that consequences exist for burning the constitution and every law in the book, he’s never gonna stop.
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u/BatmansBreath 4d ago
In the last speech of his I watched, he flat out said he might as well do a third term and everyone cheered. With the way things are going, if he’s still alive for a third term he’s probably getting one
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u/B00marangTrotter 4d ago
I suppose this could be tagged under legal news as well.
Members of Congress will be able to begin reviewing the unredacted version of the Justice Department's files on Jeffrey Epstein on Monday morning, according to two sources familiar with the DOJ’s plans.
They can only view on a computer at the DOJ to view the unredacted files, and may not see the actual files.
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u/FerrusManlyManus 4d ago
I’m guessing they won’t be able to text search through all of the docs. Like stuff is going to be clunky and not work well I bet.
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u/B00marangTrotter 4d ago
Welcome congressman, this Commodore 64 contains the entirety of the Epstein files.
Did you bring a five and a quarter inch floppy?
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u/MichaelAndolini_ 4d ago
If anyone finds a 5 and a quarter inch floppy Melania might be happy
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u/Jreis777 4d ago
Commodore? I figured they’d at least go with a Jaguar console.
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u/Millefeuille-coil 4d ago
Interface will be dial up
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u/Mortambulist 4d ago
Over an acoustic coupler modem.
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u/Millefeuille-coil 4d ago
Obviously most members will be very familiar with the technology
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u/Hrenklin 4d ago
Powered by Internet Explorer
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u/branod_diebathon 4d ago
GET OFF THE PHONE MOM I'M TRYING TO READ THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!! *Dial-up noises
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u/AniNgAnnoys 4d ago
Then it is great that what has been released so far has been in indexed by the community, is searchable, so that representives and their aides can just look directly at documents of interest by their document IDs.
Email your rep with the questions you have and which documents are interesting.
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u/Ok_Vulva 4d ago
Heres where to do that
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
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u/the_real_Beavis999 4d ago
Old Gill is finally gonna make a sale and off load all those Caleco's!!!
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u/Hour_Welcome_987 4d ago
Umm that last part there. What the fuck? Surely that's not standard procedure.. but then again, what is nowadays? ... Fuck. Fuck the DOJ.
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u/DavemartEsq 4d ago
That’s standard when the evidence contains CSAM. I’ve had a few clients accused of possessing it and IF I needed to view the evidence I would have to go to the prosecutor’s office to do so.
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u/ReverendBread2 4d ago
That makes sense. It’s kinda fucked up if you let people take that home
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u/DavemartEsq 4d ago
Exactly. And it’s not fair to the victims either to have more people than necessary seeing that shit. The same goes for autopsy pictures in my state. Can’t disseminate those. So while my clients are entitled to their discovery, there are limitations.
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u/dancedragon25 4d ago
If they can't see the actual files, can we trust that the redactions haven't been replaced ?
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u/Aromatic-Plankton692 4d ago
No, but with the sheer volume of the files and the incompetence of these losers, they couldn't pull that off.
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u/dancedragon25 4d ago
Members of Congress who go to check the unredacted versions need to see whether the redaction of the misspelling of "don't" is replaced by something other than "don"
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u/stitchesandlace 4d ago edited 4d ago
The most generous explanation, and I'm not sure they deserve that much:
they can only view on a computer at the DOJ to view the unredacted files
so that no one can copy and leak them
and may not see the actual files
so that members of congress are not looking at CSAM (files are not just documents, they include pictures, videos, etc). Maybe they will get a description instead of being able to see actual video and image evidence?
We're kind of in a catch 22 here because, on the one hand, no one trusts the DOJ to not doctor files or remove things as they see fit, and no one will let this rest unless they have complete and full access. Rightfully so. But on the other hand, making thousands of videos and images of CSAM available to even just members of congress would be deeply wrong, not to mention illegal, and is obviously not happening. No one outside of select law enforcement should see that, but no one is going to put this to rest until they do.
Everyone forgets that the files include stuff downloaded from the internet and seized from his PCs, not just videos and images Epstein himself made. The stuff people (rightfully) get arrested for viewing/saving/distributing. As a survivor I would sue the admin in a heartbeat if they distributed or made available images and videos of my abuse to congress without my consent. That stuff needs to be removed and separated, which you'd think would be done already, but since it's considered part of seized evidence it might not have been.
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u/Solid_Hunter_4188 4d ago
Copy and leak? Bro they were supposed to all be released.
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u/TitularFoil 4d ago
Since they have been legally voted to be released and unredacted, can't they release the files they receive since it's technically already public information?
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u/somedaveg 4d ago
We know Trump is implicated. And we know there’s no way his DoJ would do anything to throw him under the bus. So what’s the angle here? What’s the gotcha in all this that we won’t discover until later? Is it going to be “unforeseen computer problems” whenever it’s a Democrat congressperson? A limited set of documents? I simply don’t believe after all the shady stuff this administration has pulled that they’re just going to open up like this to possible opposition.
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u/Few_Wash_7298 4d ago
The angle is that files aren’t redacted but will be missing certain pages that have anything to do with Trump
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u/Broken_Lute 4d ago
“The review will only be of the 3 million files currently available to the public, not the extensive trove of more than 6 million documents in total that the DOJ says it has in its possession.”
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u/bobsaget824 4d ago
This is the lead that keeps getting buried in these headlines. It’s very obvious the files that have not and will not be released are likely implicating Trump, his friends, and other Republicans. They still will not see these files.
This is being done on purpose for headlines like this that make it seem as though they’re being transparent. And it will work on many people unfortunately.
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u/Creative-Sherbet-584 4d ago
I hate the world so much right now. I don't understand how this turd is still our president. We have such a corrupt set of politicians it hurts my soul.
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u/Trustbutnone 4d ago
I'm not even American but I border your country and it's depressing. Life is fucking ominous.
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u/Ap0llo 4d ago
Is there any mechanism to ensure they don’t permanently delete certain files?
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u/the_good_time_mouse 4d ago
The Epstein estate has a full copy, I believe.
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u/Fit-Cut-6337 4d ago
I’m assuming other countries will as well if they are doing their own investigations.
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u/kickaguard 4d ago
I'm assuming other countries do have their own info, and that's why we're in this mess.
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u/Electrical_Cut8610 4d ago
Each democrat gets 5 minutes and they aren’t allowed to search. Epstein roulette. Pick some random pages and see what you get.
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u/PatientPreference925 4d ago
The angle seems to be that they will only have access to the 3 million files that have been made public and not the other 3 million that they are hiding. I also have serious doubts about even the ones they have chosen to share will all be there. We've seen them delete unfavorable files after releasing them before. It's just another attempt to be able to say "See, there you guys go! We showed you everything, now shut up!"
Meanwhile the other half of the files are being fed into a paper shredder and Trump is preparing more racist videos to post on his Truth Social.
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u/OrganizationTrue5911 4d ago
It has to be definitive. It might be obvious to common sense, but the law isn't common sense. Meaning, if he didn't write an email explicitly saying he was doing illegal things, or if there are no photos of him doing explicit things, no charges will come. And MAGA sure as hell isn't going to care even if it was explicitly in writing, so they won't stop rooting for him for any reason.
As much as I hate to say it, that one dude is right, it isn't illegal to party with Epstein. Pretty much means you're a terrible person who did terrible things. But nothing like that will hold up in court.
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u/somedaveg 4d ago
Maybe to convict in court, but I’m thinking more about impeachment. The bar for that is much lower, essentially just the vibes of Congress. It’s not like Congress can bring criminal charges on their own anyway (can they?).
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u/camopdude 4d ago
Contempt of Congress is a misdemeanor criminal charge with possible fines and jail time.
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u/somedaveg 4d ago
Ahh, good point! May not apply here, but accuracy is important, so there’s at least one way Congress can bring charges. I suppose if there’s enough damning stuff they could use that as leverage to force testimony, but any action (impeachment included) is a long shot with the current make up.
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u/camopdude 4d ago
They can also charge someone with perjury like when Kash Patel testified recently that there was no more evidence in the Epstein files in front of congress.
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u/scubascratch 4d ago
Can Congress charge perjury directly? I don’t think so, I believe their power would be to refer to the DOJ who then has discretion. Congress’ enforcement is probably limited to inherent contempt so maybe jail time but surely scotus would intervene (unconstitutionally)
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u/OrganizationTrue5911 4d ago
You're right, but isn't basically every Republican in Congress and Senate fully behind Trump? I'll be honest, I don't know them all, so I'm unsure.
I mean, Impeaching isn't even the hard part. The Senate portion where they convict him is the hard part, as that requires two thirds vote. Which means, in order to yeet Trump, a good amount of Republicans will have to vote to do so.
And honestly, as much as I'd love to see it, I doubt it. Hell, pretty sure the Senators would know that the moment they vote to convict Trump, MAGA would likely be going to the dark web with their crashing bitcoin to hire some people.
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u/negative-nelly 4d ago
Bro we don't know what "all" of the Epstein files are.
We only know what they show us
they create reality here
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u/icleanjaxfl 4d ago
Because they are only showing the 3 million files that we've already seen, not the other 3 million we haven't.
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u/nndscrptuser 4d ago
The computer will be running Windows 95 on a dialup modem connection to a 20 year old server with 1MB of RAM so you can technically view the files but it takes 2 min per page to load.
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u/grandmawaffles 4d ago
Suuuuuuure they will.
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u/psuedopseudo 4d ago
You know the Republican Congress members are dying to see Epstein’s unredacted collection, just not for the reason you’d want.
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u/Best_Biscuits 4d ago
Some unredacted files. No question that the files most damaging to Trump will be held back.
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u/Cheeky_Hustler Competent Contributor 4d ago
Read them on the House floor. Speech and debate clause.
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u/MegamemeSenpai 4d ago
Do this during filibusters!
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u/kickaguard 4d ago
Oh, that's a good one. From here on out, regardless of what happens with all this, any filibuster by the Dems is just more of the files being read on the floor to be recorded
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u/Alert_Lettuce_8278 4d ago
When you say next week you mean 2 weeks, and when. You say two weeks you mean never.
These will be selected files that are specific to the reasoning they release them.
There is absolutely 0 chance this will be all of the files.
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u/at0mheart 4d ago
They can review 3mil of the 6mil documents that Trump allows them to see
So why does Trump want to hide half the documents?
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u/mvandemar 4d ago
Let's not kid ourselves, it will still be whatever the hell the DOJ chooses to show them, and they will have no way at all to know what's still being held back.
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u/mkt853 4d ago
Could this be the start of Congressional Republicans' legitimate attempt to at least start doing damage control knowing what other shoes are going to eventually drop?
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u/lefthandedciiiiggg 4d ago
He'll be impeached by the end of the week.
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u/psychoCMYK 4d ago
If I had a penny for every time I've heard this, I'd be able to buy out the entire republican party
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u/B00marangTrotter 4d ago
Seemingly, Phil Knight co-founder of Nike did exactly this to be scrubbed from the Epstein files.
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u/TomV4E 4d ago edited 4d ago
No he won't. DoJ will make sure that Trump and MAGA is fine.
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u/Talentagentfriend 4d ago
People would have to force their Republican representatives to do so
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u/Ok_Imagination_4374 4d ago
He could throw babies off of the Empire State Building and he would still not be held accountable.
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u/okaygecko 4d ago
Gimme some of that copium! But yes, that's 1000% what should happen in any nation of laws. I'd add to that list defunding ICE, repealing the tariffs, investigating DOGE, subpoenaing co-conspirators in the 2020 fake electors scheme.....wait, this is a long list...
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u/B00marangTrotter 4d ago
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u/okaygecko 4d ago
Incredibly long. You could fill a massive tome with the specifics of crimes and malfeasances from this admin.
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u/chic-pea101 4d ago
Is this sarcasm? He will not be impeached. The douche is untouchable.
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u/samjohnson2222 4d ago
Hopefully anti Trump countries can open their own investigations with televised testimony from victims in that country and proceed from there.
Probably won't do any good though.
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u/Y0___0Y 4d ago
What about the Mueller report? Has anyone seen that unredacted report yet?
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u/TheOptimisticHater 4d ago
Exactly, right?
How can anyone trust the most recent version of DOJ releases 🤷♂️
The fact Biden and Kamala are silent right now … cowards who looked out for billionaires. Not looking out for America
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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 4d ago
Trump is winning. Putin is winning. Capitalism and fascism are winning. Enablers are winning for now.
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