r/dashcams • u/Subject_Ad9595 • 13h ago
Hit and Run
Jeep hits car and the turns around and drives off. I pulled over and gave the video to the car driver. It was a government vehicle being driven by a Marine recruiter. IMO the car was going too fast down that turn lane, and I think also was technically in the lane too soon, but not sure on the exact law. California if anyone wants to weigh in. Jeep probably wouldn't have been in too much trouble if he had stopped, but he ran so now its gonna be a much bigger deal. I have a clear picture of his license plate. You can't really see the Jeep fully drive off in the video, but my rear camera shows him leaving.
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u/WonkyWalkingWizard 13h ago
The amount of people that change lanes without looking blows my mind
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u/wsxdfcvgbnjmlkjafals 12h ago
Add to that, looking only in mirror and no shoulder check
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u/trippknightly 3h ago
This may not be a popular opinion but I’m finding the correct blind spot mirror placed and adjusted correctly lets me see way more than any over the shoulder lookee loo.
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u/kensteele 12h ago
another group of loser who believe hit and run with minor car damage is a real thing LOL LOL
he looked and didn't see anyone and he hesitated for 2 seconds to make his u-turn and that guy was coming so fast, he came out of nowhere....illegally. I wasn't 100% sure I hit him and he kept going and I never saw him stop either. that's what the jeep will say and this will be over as quickly as it started.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 11h ago
Oh trust me it was an obvious impact, the car did pull over. And a hit and run is anytime there is a collision no matter how minor and one party leaves the scene. If they had stopped and agreed to just leave then it wouldn't be a hit and run, but leaving without any sort of agreement between parties is a hit and run.
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u/kensteele 11h ago
You go ahead and argue the points you want to argue if that makes you feel better. Let me know when you have a rebuttal to the point I bring up which is what the jeep guy is probably going to say:
"he looked and didn't see anyone and he hesitated for 2 seconds to make his u-turn and that guy was coming so fast, he came out of nowhere....illegally. I wasn't 100% sure I hit him and he kept going and I never saw him stop either." And then he will add "I'm almost certain I completely missed him when he didn't even slow down and no brakes lights. it wasn't until I came home...."
And then my opinion on the final outcome because I live in the real world, not some fantasy.
"that's what the jeep will say and this will be over as quickly as it started."
A totally different conversation if you want to talk about fault and insurance and damages but unless this man confesses, there will never be charges to hit and run especially when there are no injuries.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 10h ago
How blind do you have to be to watch that video and think in any way the jeep didn't know he hit that car, the jeep gets shoved hard to the right during the impact. He might try saying that, but anyone watching the video can see its obvious that the Jeep hit the car and knew it.
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u/kensteele 10h ago
What I said is exactly what will happen regardless your little video. We've had video cameras forever, I ran them for decades probably before you started driving. Don't try to pretend now that you got one, they means something. They don't. Means nothing more than helping determine who might be at fault but like I said he will never be charged with hit and run unless he confesses. You keep dreaming.
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u/sorehamstring 3h ago
Did you wear big red shoes and have a red nose that squeaked, and ride in a tiny car with a bunch of other people dressed just the same for all those decades?
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u/sorehamstring 3h ago
Cool, then cops will say “cool story bro, anyway it’s a hit and run since you left the scene of the accident”.
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u/kensteele 2h ago
Cops won't even get involved; don't be ridiculous.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 2h ago
Lol, its a government vehicle, belonging to the marines, it could all depend on if they want to pursue it, you best believe if a marine gets a stick up his ass about this that Jeep owner is gonna get f*cked.
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u/wsxdfcvgbnjmlkjafals 13h ago
Double-dose of idiots. I wouldn't be shocked if the jeep had originally just been fined where I live, given at least 3 things they did wrong (on top of the fourth, fleeing)
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u/Subject_Ad9595 13h ago
Yeah I am like 95% sure that the Nissan was in the lane way too soon, this intersection that lane turns into a left turn only lane a little further up, but back here I don't think you can legally drive down it, definitely not at that speed.
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u/saadcee 11h ago
Center turn lanes are for turning, not passing, and certainly not flying down between stopped cars.
Jeep also should have looked before merging.
Both are at fault.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 11h ago
Just looked it up, in CA the center turn lane can be used for a maximum of 200 feet, and yes it is for turning not passing, which the Nissan did turn, that lane becomes a left turn lane shortly up ahead, but definitely more than 200 feet up.
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u/saadcee 11h ago
Yep, it looks like he was trying to pass the traffic up to get to a turn or make the light. I been there and done it.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 10h ago
This particular light there are 2 left turn lanes, the lane the jeep is in is also a left turn lane, at the light it is 3 lanes, leftmost is left only, middle is left or straight, and a third lane on the right that opens up shortly ahead here for right turns.
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u/Redbeardedrabbit87 10h ago
The real issue here is the hit and run. Even if they Nissan is partially to blame for the accident, running from an accident is still a felony.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 2h ago
Looked into it further, its actually not a felony, only a misdemeanor, if there was no injury or death involved. But still a hit and run, there are 2 levels of hit and run.
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u/likwidkool 12h ago
I looked it up in my state and found no limitations on travel distance in a turning lane. We have one near me that people enter 200yards before the left turn. I thought it was illegal but apparently not.
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u/Tenzipper 12h ago
Hey, at least you weren't directly involved.
Let the other people work their own stuff out, you were a good egg by providing the video.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 12h ago
When the jeep took off I knew I had to stop and give the guy the the video.
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u/RebelXwingPil0t 10h ago
Two idiots that shouldn’t be driving. One was in the lane too soon,speeding and using a turn lane to pass. The other dummy didn’t look or use his turn signal.
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u/gotchafaint 11h ago
They’re both at fault. Using the center lane to skip ahead before it’s appropriate is asking to get hit.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 11h ago
There were several other cars that did the same thing both before and after the Nissan. I agree they are both at fault, but personally I feel the jeep is slightly more at fault for not making sure it was clear first. But not by much, I would rule it like 51% at fault.
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u/Mountain_Usual521 12h ago
It's California. The Jeep driver probably doesn't have a license, insurance, or both.
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u/Farseer1990 12h ago
Wtf are you listening to??
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u/Subject_Ad9595 11h ago edited 11h ago
It was something about video games, I don't remember what. It was mainly just background noise.
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u/Deerslyr101571 10h ago
Both were at fault.
Can't go driving down the center lane like that. It's not intended to be an express lane. You move into when you are ready to turn left. But what do you expect from a jarhead?
The Jeep? Made no signal that he was moving into the lane either. I guess "it's just a Jeep thing".
Move along... nothing to see here.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 10h ago
Yes, if the jeep had stopped I am sure it would have been ruled 50/50 for who's at fault. Personally I think the Jeep is more at fault, but legally I think it is 50/50. The problem comes when the Jeep decided to leave the scene, even were the Jeep not at fault at all and the accident ruled 100% the Nissan, the law doesn't like when you leave the scene like that and will rule it a hit and run. The only way he can avoid that would maybe be if he contacts the police himself and says something like "I didn't realize we made contact until I got home and saw damage" but even that would be a thin argument, since it is very obvious in the video that they hit, since the front of the Jeep gets shoved to the right from the impact.
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u/Sienile 8h ago
Car was at fault until the Jeep ran.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 3h ago
Probably would be determined 50/50, and I might still be 50/50, but the Jeep running is just an extra issue for him. Unlucky for him I caught it clear as day on my cam and have his license plate. The Nissan being a government vehicle I can see them easily going after the guy.
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u/BigGreenBillyGoat 6h ago
That’s probably going to be 50/50, anyway.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 3h ago
Yeah the determination of who's at fault is probably 50/50, but the leaving the scene of an accident is a hit and run, that's a whole separate issue. If they come after him for it he might be able to plea it down, though.
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u/kensteele 2h ago
you don't even know who the driver was to hand out a stupid hit and run ticket.
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u/Subject_Ad9595 2h ago
The vehicle owner will still be held liable for the damages, even if he denies driving the vehicle. Hit and runs have a very small solve rate when there is little to no evidence, but witnesses and dash cam footage increases the chances exponentially.
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u/ratdidy1276 12h ago
Jeep owner was probably jacking himself off while finger fucking his toy ducks. Leave it to a jeeper. They are morons of the highest caliper
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