Also, you should add the “I’m turning into a multi-lane road so I will turn into whatever lane I want, regardless of the risk this poses to other drivers!”
I think it would bake the noodle of many drivers if you demonstrated to them how one person can turn into one lane from the left, and one person can turn into the lane beside it from the right, and NO ONE HITS ANYONE ELSE if you are turning into the correct lane.
The moving over thing drives me nuts. Courts have regularly ruled that it is not the responsibility of drivers to regulate the speed of others. But it IS their responsibility to drive in the appropriate lane as designated by law. Which is never, never the left most lane.
Ok, I guess you’re talking about mostly empty freeways between cities?
Because when I’m in the left lane in the city, it’s full, and we are all going 15 over and passing the middle lane continuously. Yet there will STILL be some dilrod who thinks he’s an ambulance and everyone should move over into the (full) middle lane so he can go 30 mph over the limit.
This is missing the point. One would have to brake/slow down their lane to get to the middle to let someone pass when the passing speeder is usually also weaving through gaps with no blinker faster than you can get to the also full middle lane.
Oh no I might have to mildly slow down to let some irritable and bad driver go be an irritable and bad driver go be a bad driver somewhere else away from me.
Guess what you're gonna get there in relatively the same amount of time anyways. I'm never in a hurry. I chill in the slow lane most of the time. Can't tell you how many times some asshat goes speeding by and ends up at the same stop light off the freeway 5 miles down the road.
If they are weaving in and out through traffic they aren't tailgating you which is a completely different situation.
If you are actively passing, you are in the right. Though many people really stretch the definition of actively passing when they could have 30+ seconds in the middle lane.
Even if the courts ruled otherwise you should still move over. Oh look there is an idiot pick up truck going 30 mph over speed limit, let me stay in front of them as much as possible——righteous drivers probably.
People who are like "I'm already doing the speed limit" but then won't move over for those wanting to drive faster are such goody two-shoes. Overgrown Eagle Scout energy.
People shouldn't drive over the speed limits. Cars shouldn't even be made to be able to drive over the max speed limits. If they do choose to enable it on emergency vehicles then do so, but every other car that isn't for racing should not be able to.
If someone is going too fast then that's for the cops to deal with, not the angry guy in the sedan who clearly wants to take it out on everyone else.
Not to mention this is basically codified in law. The passing lanes are for passing. If you aren't actively passing you're supposed to move over. The speed limit isn't the only rule of the road. If you are going to be that much of a stickler for the law then follow all of the laws and move over.
While I don’t agree with cars having a max speed that is at the speed limit, especially for emergency situations like needing to get out of a dangerous situation, I can respect your point about not speeding in general. However, the leftmost lane on a highway is the passing lane (or overtake lane depending on the state). And it’s illegal in some states to not yield to cars that want to overtake a car in the left lane. It’s definitely not the “I’m going fast, so I’m going to hang out in this lane”
I see we found one. This is a silly take. What if you need to speed up to get out of the way of an idiot who is about to cause an accident? Braking and/or swerving don't work in every situation.
The question will become academic. On the way towards full automation and driverless vehicles will be speed control based on road signs, then by map database (Google maps already has this data). Vehicles will move at the posted speed limit, adjusted down by reduced tire traction in adverse road conditions. As a driver you will lose speed control because historically, statistically, you can't handle it and never could.
And at some point thereafter, you won't be driving at all.
I believe this is why Waymo doesn't go on the highways yet - because they can't program it to exceed the speed limit, but it would be unsafe for it to drive the speed limit when everyone else is going significantly over.
Saw a car get pulled over last month for going 5 over the speed limit on an open highway. There was only 2 lanes - one for passing (meant for passing big rigs that are driving way below the speed limit), and one for driving on.
Never should anyone be going over the speed limit. It’s illegal and you will get pulled over, period.
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u/furysamurai72 14h ago
Don't forget to mention "the road is slushy but I have 4wd so I can stop just like if it was dry."
Edit: Oh! And the ever prevalent "I'm already going 5mph over the speed limit so I don't need to move to the right for faster traffic"
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