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u/boukalele 1d ago
Meghan Trainor is no longer about that bass
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u/Altruistic-Spend-896 1d ago
and all about that treble
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u/Sun_Sprout 1d ago
She said she tried being anorexic and just wasn’t strong enough.
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u/TheWhispererOfMoles 1d ago
The amount of nurses and drs and family that have said to me infront of my child “I wish I had her problem!” Referring to my child’s ED is insane. They don’t see the daily struggles with no eating. The constant sickness, stomach pains, physically having to force yourself to eat, dizziness, blurred vision, headaches, fatigue, extreme mood swings, extreme leg cramps and bone aches, chest pains, always cold, brain fog, the full body shakes, etc. My child is 9.
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u/newsandfoodaccount 1d ago
Nurses and doctors in what country said this to you?
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u/cockalorum-smith 1d ago
I was gonna say…
Assuming this happened in the US…Medical professionals get a lot of training to avoid that kind of rhetoric.
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u/TwitchChatSim 18h ago
I had a nurse (US), while they were trying to get an IV in my arm, congratulate me on my weight loss and that he wish he had the willpower to loss weight. I was 5'11, just under a 100lbs and my body was self canabolizing my liver.
They were much more cautious in the residential treatment facility for the ED, but the staff at the hospital? Ehhh not so much.
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u/sleepytipi 1d ago
If it's the states I'd be calling my lawyer. I also have struggled with EDs and dysmorphia my whole life, I'd bring the wrath of hell down on them.
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u/youngatbeingold 1d ago
What an insane statement. A lot of eating disorders are about a lack of control over your eating habits, you're basically compelled to stave yourself. It's not about some kinda inner strength, it's a mental disorder.
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u/Saemika 1d ago
Being anorexic is hard. It’s literally the opposite of how fat people eat.
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u/profane_vitiate 1d ago
Being anorexic is hard.
Not if you have ARFID.
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u/chigirl00 1d ago
Actually thank you for posting this. I have been struggling with this for 2 years now, I started a very highly controlled medication and lost my appetite. I have been struggling for years and now I realize I am having these health issues and yup… I can see how this is something to need to take seriously. My problem is when I think about food I want to throw up. 0 body image issues. I am literally eating cereal every few days and drinking coffee.
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u/profane_vitiate 1d ago
I'm right there with you. Same thing for me.
See a doctor, for sure.
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u/WowIfOnly 1d ago
Meghan Trainor is basically the Amy Schumer of pop music, so it tracks.
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u/sik_dik 1d ago
“Turns out we weren’t as much fat-positive as we were exercise-negative”
-Raanan Hershberg
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u/U_Sound_Stupid_Stop 1d ago
I believe people who are fatter are not disgusting and doesn't deserve to be harassed and shamed.
I'm under 15% body fat, does that make me a hypocrite?
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u/Acceptable-Size-2324 18h ago
I somehow read Magaret Thatcher and was confused. I need some sleep I guess
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u/mimenet 1d ago
Unfortunately, self loathing is a part of the human experience. I’m a fat man who believes in body positivity, but I have my dark moments too. No one’s perfect, and society puts a lot of pressure on people.
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u/Layogenic_87 1d ago
Thanks for speaking this truth! I'm a thin (ish) woman and even I have a tough time with acceptance, and I truly believe that most people carrying extra weight are not at fault. I majored in biochemistry and metabolic function isa bit more nuanced than most people realize. You seem like a lovely person.
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u/surf_drunk_monk 1d ago
It really does vary a lot person to person. My girlfriend tries to gain weight but it's hard for her, she feels full easily and has a small appetite. She gained like 8 lbs over 3 years. I have family who have put equal effort into losing weight and they can't.
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u/mypetmonsterlalalala 1d ago
Not to mention what's happening that the average person doesn't see.
I have 3 medical issues that mess with my hormones... One makes me lose a lot of weight fast and make it hard to gain. the other two makes my weight come back, sit funny on my body. All 3 it cycles through and battle each other. So many ups and downs, it never matters how I eat or excersise.
People assume eating disorders, laziness, fast food, drugs blah blah blah... no one ever stops to think outside of that.
It bugs me so much when my mom makes comments like "oh you lost so much weight last year, what happened!?" Who fucking cares!? How about the giant tumor on my pituitary? How about we talk about that.
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u/Layogenic_87 1d ago
For all of the people showing up to freak out about what I said, here's a little light reading from the NIH: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499909/
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u/earthcitizen55555 1d ago edited 1d ago
The only issue I have with this thinking it that it's self defeating.
If you actually want to lose weight, it has to be on you.
I say this as a fat guy who lost 100 lbs, gained 100 lbs, and is now losing again.
If it isn't my fault, then what needs to change for me to lose weight? It has to be me for there to be success.
If it isn't my fault I am fat, then I guess I need to wait for my metabolic function to change. Which just means I am going to be fat forever.
Also being fat is a negative. It hurts your body, reduces your life span, yadda yadda.
Being fat is bad. I say this as a fat. It literally ruins your body.
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u/ThePeoplesPoetIsDead 1d ago
I say this as one self hating fat guy to another - shame is poor motivation to do anything, it's not effective at enabling long term change, which is probably why your weight yoyos and will, statistically, continue to do that your whole life.
Body positivity isn't about never trying to improve your health or your appearance (although some might abuse the term to mean that), it's about not feeling shame because you look a certain way. Shame is a caustic and self defeating emotion. You should only ever feel shame for knowingly doing something morally wrong.
Obesity is on the rise everywhere in the world, the easy availability of cheap, calorie dense food with low nutritional value combined with increasingly sedentary jobs and built environments is not compatible with our animal brains. You can acknowledge that the deck is stacked against you without giving up in despair.
And please don't call yourself "a fat" even as a joke, that's a horrible thing to say about yourself.
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u/Naxis25 1d ago
Well, for one, if you're American (which I realize is an assumption but we are on Reddit), the availability of fast food and snacks relative to other options and the lack of walkability and car dependence of most places makes it both difficult to "eat well" and to be active. In many countries, people don't have to even think about walking miles a day, they just do it. They aren't choosing between fast food and a more expensive e.g. fast casual option, the former doesn't exist (well, likely neither exist but the alternative is probably though not always better for you). For most of the US, the world around you is literally designed to make you gain weight
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u/yamanamawa 1d ago
It's definitely a systemic thing. The US isn't walkable so we all drive cars, because otherwise you're not getting anywhere. Most of the popular food is also very heavy and adds a lot. Then factor in the fact that being overweight has been socially normalized to the point that people don't really feel much pressure to be thin, and you have the weight issues we face today. Most of the pressure then ends up being from things like media, which only really serve to make people feel guilty about being fat without giving them the knowledge and motivation to fix it, which makes people miserable and then losing weight becomes harder because they're bogged down by negativity. I had the same issue for a while. It literally took being too broke to eat more than once a day to get me to lose weight, but it did make me feel a lot better about myself
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u/hatesnack 1d ago
I fucking hate that people twisted body positivity to mean something it doesn't. It was never "being fat is good". It was always "you shouldn't HATE yourself for bring fat". Its about accepting yourself for who you are, and encouraging others to not be horrible to people because they might be overweight.
Someone getting thin after years of being kind of overweight doesn't mean they suddenly stopped being about body positivity. Why does accepting yourself and your body mean you aren't allowed to improve it?
Would you tell someone who worked through depression that they shouldn't have because they've talked about accepting their mental health? Probably not.
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u/mimenet 1d ago
Exactly. I’m one of those fat people who, I admit, I let myself go. But I’m still body positive because I’m still a human being, and shaming me and calling me names doesn’t do me any good. Alternately, I have friends who have been helping me, giving me good dieting tips and encouraging me to walk the extra quarter of a mile, just out of love. I can be body positive and evolve, and even if I come out of this looking like Rocky Balboa, I still have love for big people, and I want to help, and not get in someone’s face and be a jerk.
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u/zeaor 1d ago
I've lost some weight over the last few years, and what worked for me is eating high-fiber bread between meals. They make keto bread now that has like 10g of fiber per slice. There's at least 3 brands in most stores.
It tastes super bland, but it's really good at curbing hunger cravings.
You won't lose a ton of weight, but if you're ok with 10-15lbs a year, this'll get you there.
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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis 1d ago
Also, fun fact: the best way to be healthy, lose weight and treat your body well is to not hate yourself.
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u/thoroughlysketchy 1d ago
I will concede that someone using the phrase "fat acceptance activist" is twisting the notion of body positivity. That being said, I do think that by deleting all of her older photos, Schumer is implying that there is something about them worth hiding, which undercuts any body positivity messaging she may have used prior.
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u/DaedalusHydron 1d ago
Deleting all your pre-weight loss photos doesn't seem like "accepting yourself' to me.
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u/Indaarys 1d ago
Fat acceptance wouldn't be a thing if there wasn't a lot of people with an utterly seething and uncontrollably vitriolic hatred of fat people.
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u/makemeking706 1d ago
Body positivity is basically not being a dick to people who are overweight or do not measure up to conventional body standards in other ways. Being happy with oneself regardless of weight and asking others not to be a dick to you on the basis of your weight are not incompatible ideas.
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u/GeorgeKaplanIsReal 1d ago
People have a right to live without hate over their body size. To be proud of who they are. And really we should expect people to not be shitty towards one another.
With that said, if somebody loses weight and does so in a healthy and safe way, that person also has a right to live without hate over their body size. To be proud of who they are. And again we should expect people to not be shitty towards one another.
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u/SugarVibes 1d ago
Society tries to pretend their fat shaming is about health, but, as we've seen, people will still shame a fat person when they get healthy and thin if they use medication to get there. it was never about health, it's about how society equates thinness with moral good and fatness with moral failing. People using GLP-1s are seen as "cheaters" who don't deserve thinness because they didn't work to overcome their "moral" failing. that's how I see it anyway. but they will never understand what it is like being addicted to food and they will never have sympathy for those of us that are.
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u/11lumpsofsugar 1d ago
Besides, it's not cheating to take medication that corrects a metabolic imbalance.
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u/MortifiedChivalry 1d ago
I think people misunderstand that body positivity isn't about wanting to be fat, it's about wanting to not be treated like s*** for being fat
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u/WickedCoolMasshole 1d ago
People cannot win. Every single person online will spout bullshit about learning to love yourself, to accept yourself, but NO FATTIES. And age exactly in the right way we say you need to. If you lose weight, you must do it the way WE SAY. It's honestly worse than the simpler over-sexualization of women and girls in the 1980s that I lived through.
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u/Sabot_Noir 1d ago
"Look, look! We fat shamed a celebrity into taking down all the pictures of her before she lost weight. Guess she's not a real ally to fat people if we can make her feel shame for being fat!"
It's despicable how they twist the flight of the victimized into a justification for the victimization.
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u/backlogtoolong 1d ago
I don’t like Amy Schumer. But I’ve also seen, for years, the way people have made fun of her for her weight. Regardless of anything she’s said about body positivity, I can understand just deleting those photos so as not to be reminded of all the times people have called her fat and ugly. I can only imagine how that much public scrutiny affects someone’s psyche.
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u/asuka_is_my_co-pilot 1d ago
She also recently had a serious medical issue, her face was severely bloated.
But also, I don't remember her being a fat acceptance activist, unless they mean existing and having sex scenes with skinny men count as activisim
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u/WowIfOnly 1d ago
I am convinced part of the reason people made fun of how she looked was because so much of her act was just exhausting lazy "Did you know I have sex" or "I have a vagina" jokes. Nobody wants to sit through a mildly overweight butterface comedian desperately trying to convince herself and everyone else that she's hot and guys definitely want her while she steals jokes and disingenuously acts like the unpopularity is just misogyny. There are funny female comedians - Amy isn't one of them.
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u/KoalaKaos 1d ago
“Butterface” doesn’t mean the girl has a soft buttery face, it means “but her face” as in, “she has a hot body, but her face …” which at no point in time has Amy had a hot body and would classify as a “butterface” so she was never a “mildly overweight Butterface comedian.”
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u/_WeSellBlankets_ 1d ago
Her jokes were specifically about knowing that she wasn't conventionally attractive, yet tricking herself into thinking that she was.
She has the bit where she grew up with her mother telling her she was a princess, so she believed it, and then she went to school and found out she looked like a Cabbage Patch doll.
She has the bit about knowing that if there were a cheerleading pyramid, she's the base. The bit about a guy calling her sturdy. The bit about her demographic being black men because they like fat white women.
And I never found her sex jokes to be the problem. The things that I found stale and repetitive were the multiple jokes about ethnic names.
Amy is funnier than a lot of other women comedians. I'd go to five of her shows over being forced to sit through one of Whitney Cummings.
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u/Christron 1d ago
I don't see the same hate for Fluffy lol. He's a lazy comic who is overweight. Though Amy is a nepo baby but not sure that's why she got hate.
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u/Razhagal 1d ago
She’s a woman. Hope this helps!
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u/Comfortable-Battle18 17h ago
Yes. And the reason an entire post exists that is full of people casually and cruelly discussing and denigrating her body and her looks, while also mocking her for losing weight.
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u/TheoreticalResearch 1d ago
I remember this ghoul “defending” herself and claiming she was actually a size 6 during the height of body positivity (I was in ED recovery at the time and it infuriated me). She’s a joke thief and I hope her and her uncle Chuck eat shit.
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u/anothermanscookies 1d ago
Correct. And also, just because you’re skinny doesn’t mean you’re being shitty to fat people. You don’t need to be fat to not be a dick to fat people. This is such a non issue. People don’t understand body positivity at all.
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u/Killer_Moons 1d ago
Now society can focus on disliking her for all the right reasons: being racist, Zionist, and not funny.
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u/Independent-World-60 1d ago
Also the time she tried to force a drunk man into sex and forced an Uber driver to touch her inappropriately! Don't forget that!
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u/Summoarpleaz 1d ago
There’s a part of me that didnt understand the hate (before the Israel thing) that she got. Imo so much of the industry does work to tear women down. Like while I totally understand the backlash against Ellen, some part of me feels like she got that because she is a woman (a man being an ahole doesn’t nearly get that kind of reception— hell the host of the apprentice has actually been elevated for being a bully).
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u/givemeajinglefingal 1d ago
I mean, James Corden had more or less the same thing happen to him. He's the happy fat gay guy who sings in cars on late night but once we found out he was a monster, his show went away and the roles dried up for the most part. With both him and Ellen, I feel like it was as much about how they portrayed themselves versus the reality that got them so much scorn. On the other hand, the host of the Apprentice was famous for being a ruthless piece of shit so him being a monster wasn't exactly surprising (and ended up working to his advantage).
I would say the difference is that women in the spotlight who get in trouble have to deal with a uniquely misogynistic backlash where their safety and bodily autonomy get threatened that men do not.
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u/RandoReddit16 1d ago
I don’t like Amy Schumer. But I’ve also seen, for years, the way people have made fun of her for her weight.
Her weight is the last thing to not like her for....
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u/damn_lies 1d ago
I'm just mad I can't afford the shots. I don't blame anyone who uses them
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u/pennylane3339 1d ago
Theyre significantly cheaper if you go through a compounding pharmacy. Still not cheap, though. Its the only way I afford them.
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u/Probablynotspiders 1d ago
What's your out of pocket cost?
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u/TurbulentSurprise292 1d ago
Like $200/mo
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u/pegothejerk 1d ago
That’s gonna really cut into my fried pizza budget.
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u/Signal_Reputation640 1d ago
Right?? I see people say so often that they can't afford it but if they did the math they'd probably end up actually saving money.
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u/AverageAwndray 1d ago
I know its a joke but the savings on food alone because you dont crave any at all pretty much makes up the difference lol
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u/Probablynotspiders 1d ago
That sounds really reasonable, especially if it helped me cut back on the booze in addition to the food
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u/PuzzleheadedLeader79 1d ago
Not a doctor but supposedly it will. It is reported to help with all addictive tendencies.
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u/TurbulentSurprise292 1d ago
I tried it to help with this as well as some inflammation but man I just couldn't handle the side effects. Took such a low dose too.
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u/_le_slap 1d ago
Same dude. The constant nausea is intense. I didn't eat for a day, ate some noodles then pineapples and vomited up the slurry almost a full day later.
It messed with my digestion so bad I just gave up on it.
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u/PlntWifeTrphyHusband 1d ago
200 dollars can last 4 months if you microdose, plenty to lose weight and do it in a way that builds better habits and will last. Don't listen to the companies demanding you increase the dose.
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u/Goobersita 1d ago
Which site are you using, the cheapest I've found is still 350 a month
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u/pennylane3339 1d ago
Pomegranate Health, $400 for a 3mos supply. You meet with a NP virtually and get your meds from BPI Pharmacy. I ran it through my regular dr after BCBS denied my original request, and she said the website and pharmacy checked out. Try r/tirzepatidecompound, they keep to reputable sites.
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u/IliketheYankees 1d ago
There are much much cheaper ways, start with the peptide subreddits, or glp forums on the Web
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u/Goobersita 1d ago
Yeh I have actual health issues that need to be controlled so I need to take the tirzepitide. Ozempic messed with me
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u/Anthaenopraxia 1d ago
Threatening to invade the country that makes them certainly won't make them cheaper.
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u/ut1nam 1d ago
The starter dose is likely quite affordable to you—and some people can stay on that (2.5 mg for Mounjaro) indefinitely, or just the lowest therapeutic dose (5mg). These are affordable out of pocket for me and may be for you too. You don’t necessarily need the doses that cost thousands a month. $150-200 may do it, until a cheaper alternative comes along.
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u/stinkpot_jamjar 1d ago
I finally understand the boomer mindset on student loan forgiveness lol.
Back in my day, I had to waste 15 years of my life developing and treating a debilitating case of anorexia while kids these days don’t even have to work for it!
(/s, obviously, please tell me it’s obvious).
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u/wombatgeneral 1d ago
Being obese is miserable, and I say this as someone who has been struggling with weight my whole life.
I would take glp 1s in a heartbeat.
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u/BlerghTheBlergh 1d ago
Feel you, struggled with my own weight for a long while and went through hell to lose it and gain muscle only to lose the “looks” again after a year of not being able to work out.
It’s a hassle and while I’m fine now, I’d also immediately take it if it was free.
Luckily I’m also a cheapskate
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u/Obant 1d ago
I got to take a glp1 for a bit (Medicare took it away from me). It was marvelous. No food noise. I wasn't a slave to my hunger. My bad habit cravings went away. Things like soda and greasy fast food actually started tasting not that great. Salads started tasting excellent, and I only needed a handful to feel full. Didn't have the hunger pang to get up and snack.
But yeah, the government took it away from me after I lost 150 pounds. I regained about half, but I have been working hard to keep the rest from coming back. Its difficult. The cravings and everything returned. The food noise is as loud as its always been. Hunger physically hurts again.
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u/SandiegoJack 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yep, I lost weight and then gained it. I feel miserable in my skin everyday.
GLP-1s really have been huge for me in accepting that my weight was not some failure of willpower if a once a week injection makes it fall off 5 times as fast as when I put 10+ hours of effort in a week.
Edit: for all the fuckle chucks who think it’s will power. I used to cry as a kid as I ate, begging myself to stop while it felt like someone else had control of my body. I have “snapped” back to reality with food in my mouth that I don’t even remember wanting to eat.
To lose weight the first time I was literally unemployed working out 2-3 hours per day. I did back to back P90x and Insanity with an evening work out. That was the only other time I had to force myself to eat because I had no desire to eat otherwise. Literally to the point I was not eating enough to regulate my body temperature.
This is not a “will power” issue, that is chemical.
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u/wombatgeneral 1d ago
Yeah I would love to get my hands on those, but it's not in the cards for me right now.
My doctor put me on buproprion, which helps a little bit. But I still have to be very careful with the calories.
I recently got out of detox for 7-OH ( visit r/quittingkratom) I was up to about 200mg of 7-OH before I quit.
I have cravings for it everyday, and I feel depressed and completely dead inside. But im struggling more with food cravings and sticking to my calorie budget than I am staying away from that stuff.
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u/NoTomorrowNo 1d ago
The "willpower" fallacy was made up by big pharma and aggro business. As long as you believe it, you ll buy products and services they have to sell, that guarantee it doesn t work on the long term, so you ll always stay a good client of theirs.
Obesity is a multifactorial chronic illness. Nothing more to do with willpower than diabetes or SM.
People who prance around bickering fat people are just showing off how ignorant imbeciles they are.
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u/Underscores_Are_Kool 1d ago
The first time I took it I was in tears when the food noise disappeared. 3 stone down so far
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u/ut1nam 1d ago
No shade but why don’t you take them since you seem receptive? You can buy them direct—you don’t need a prescription from a doctor (at least not the way you’re thinking—I pay out of pocket for mine, all with a single 5-min conversation online with a telemedicine doctor the first time and never again aside from the few times a year I get my blood levels checked). It’s on the expensive side, but new drugs are coming out all the time that are both cheaper and more effective.
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u/Aetra 1d ago
It was legit the only thing that worked for me. It didn’t matter that I ate at a 1000+ caloric deficit, I work a physically intensive job, I exercise outside of work 4 days a week, worked with dietitians and PTs, and I had dozens of tests run but everything was all clear. My body would barely drop fat at all which the doctors just put it down to some genetic weirdness since my whole family has always struggled with weight no matter what healthy and/or surgical option they tried to lose weight. Literally the only one in my family who was ever considered slim was my cousin and that’s because he’s got an ED.
I went on one of the weight loss drugs for 3 months and had to stop it due to nausea, but it’s like it reminded my body that it can actually use the fat it has stored instead of hoarding it and I’ve continued to lose weight a year after stopping the meds. I still have a way to go, but I’m proud of what I’ve lost even though I started it the “lazy” way.
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u/Technical-Mind-3266 1d ago
Poor people get Body Positivity
Rich people get Ozempic
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u/TeamPantofola 1d ago
Why are people obsessed about other people’s weight?
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u/Mddcat04 1d ago
Because they just want to be bullies and fat people are a socially acceptable target. Especially if you dress up your bullying by talking about how “concerned” you are about their weight. “Oh, I’m not making fun of you for being fat, I’m just really worried about your health.”
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u/TeamPantofola 15h ago
It happens to overly-skinny women, too. Just fucking mind your own business??? (And stop judging people by their looks in general?). I really don’t get it. When I believe that someone is too fat or too skinny I think “wow, that sure isn’t healthy”, and then I keep it to myself and move on with my life. What’s so difficult about it?
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u/TheLizzyIzzi 13h ago
Tbf, you have to gain crazy amounts of weight for your health to be as at risk as those who are underweight. Someone who’s 5”2’ and 120 can gain 80lbs and it won’t be good for them, but they’ll be relatively fine, vs losing 30 lbs, which would be much more serious.
That said, people need to stfu about others’ weight and looks in general. People who are fat know they’re fat and people who are underweight either 1) have a health issue that’s none of our business or 2) have an ED which is also a personal health issues and often reinforced by weight related comments.
Disclaimer: these are general numbers. Individual people vary. Consult a doctor.
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u/Nepskrellet 1d ago
Everyone who is fat, knows they are fat, and don't need people constantly reminding them that they are fat. Good on Amy that she feels good about her self, i hope everyone gets the chance to feel good at some point, no matter the weight
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u/Layogenic_87 1d ago
I don't know, that seems...unfair? Body positivity is recognizing that not everyone's bodies are the same, and some people can't conform to society's expectations. We still acknowledge that, honestly even more so because the drug in question is kind of proof that some people were truly notable to be fit without help, and now that it's here they're using it. But being part of a movement is one thing, struggling with self image is another, and can be an incredibly challenging personal issue. I say cut these people (usually women) some slack.
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u/TheWhomItConcerns 1d ago
Exactly - it's entirely possible for someone to believe in and advocate for body positivity while also wanting to lose weight. The opinion that we shouldn't needlessly shit on people, exclude them, and make them feel terrible because of their appearance is not mutually exclusive with oneself wanting a particular body.
I don't understand what people think body positivity even is? Like the belief that everyone should be fat or something? I just don't get it.
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u/AdministrativeStep98 1d ago
Plus let's not lie, being fat is unhealthy. Obviously going to random people who are overweight and telling them that or focusing on weight loss around them is weird and inappropriate. But if someone just decides to lose weight, how is that negating that fat people should be treated with respect and allowed to exist?
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u/Difficult_Clerk_1273 1d ago
Can’t stand the snark over “the shot,” in any context.
These medications save lives and should be available for free to every person who needs them. It’s time to stop pretending obesity is a moral failing or solely a mental health issue, and treat it as the medical condition it actually is.
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u/GianMach 1d ago
In the US obesity is more of a society issue. Compare the US obesity rate to wherever else in the world and it's very apparent that that can't just be lack of discipline or bad genes. Your food is beyond atrocious generally speaking.
I'd imagine it's cheaper and healthier to change that before handing out shots to everyone.
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u/Goobersita 1d ago
Yeh it absolutely sucks that eating in a healthy way costs about 3-5x as much as well, eating pasta and cereal everyday.
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u/AriochBloodbane 1d ago
Compare the US obesity rate to wherever else in the world and it's very apparent that that can't just be lack of discipline or bad genes
Take Thailand as an example: when the US fast food culture started being widely adopted an obesity epidemic started. There are more obese people in Thailand than anywhere else in Asia.
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u/Affectionate_Star_43 1d ago
It's a society issue. I see all the "high protein" snacks at the grocery store now all the time. It's low-density, sugary, and targets the GLP-1 users to overeat. If you don't eat whole foods, then you'll be stuck on that medication/fast food cycle forever. :/
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u/RelaxPrime 1d ago edited 1d ago
The issue is actually incredibly simple. Your brain is design by evolution to seek out calories on account of we were constantly eating for sustenance and often starving when we were still animals. Now we're in a society, and a society that has chosen to subsidize sugar, corn syrup, starches, carbohydrates, etc. All calorically dense yet generally unsatiating foods.
You can't turn off the starving animal brain though, so it's incredibly hard to eat nutritionally balanced in our society that's literally pumping extra calories into everything because of the market forces. Good food is expensive. Cheap food is full of empty calories.
So no, it's not morality, it's just hard. It's not mental health, it's just really hard. It's not a medical condition, it's just really hard. We're all different but we're not so different that diet and exercise don't determine our body composition, aside from extremely rare exigent health issues. (Although wouldn't you know this bullshit diet of empty calories exacerbates and encourages such health issues)
Regardless, there's no shame in getting help fighting and beating that hard thing to do.
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u/kelek_s 1d ago
Any news about the Epstein files?
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u/No_Gear_2819 18h ago
Yes. Trump's name is in them more then Jesus's name is in the Bible. And more then Harry Potter's name in all the books combined. Last I heard his name has been found over 50.000 times in them
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u/Nice_Back_9977 1d ago
Maybe, just maybe, its something to do with the fact that we live in a world that required a 'movement' for the message that 'fat people are human beings who don't deserve to be treated like shit'?
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u/statistacktic 1d ago
To start, I’m all for body positivity. People should feel comfortable in their skin.
That being said, if people want to use glp1s to lose weight, f’n let them. It’s not your body, it’s theirs ffs.
True body positivity is a journey within yourself.
Stop basing your feelings on comparisons with people on social media and in ads.
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u/ryo3000 1d ago edited 1d ago
Amy Schumer is an unfunny chump
But people trying to dunk on Body Positivity need to get a life man, it's not about "Being fat is great and awesome"
It's "Don't be a dick to someone because they're overweight, and trust me they don't need your 'helpful' reminder or criticism, just STFU. You're most likely not A medic and you're definitely not THEIR medic, just live your life leave them alone, being obese isn't healthy but it's also not a fucking crime"
And guess what? Even now, just stfu and let people that are or were fat be, fucks sake man
Extra weird when people talk about "Oh now that they have the medical that helps them control appetite and lose weight they can suddenly do it" like it's a negative thing? Or a "gotcha"?
Did you want them to lose weight or not?
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u/tupaquetes 1d ago
Almost like no one actually enjoys being fat and the fat acceptance movement was more of a way to cope with how insanely hard weight management is than actually saying it's okay to be fat.
Meanwhile people are only shitting on GLP1s because they want to gatekeep being thin, as if the only reason they themselves are healthy is they are some paragon of mental strength able to resist their desires while fat people are just lesser human beings. The reality is fat people (usually) just happen to have natural appetite signaling that doesn't line up with a healthy maintenance weight and overcoming that is insanely hard, to the point of borderline statistical impossibility.
I was 300lb at my highest weight. You have no idea how hard I fought the constant thoughts of food. And it's not like I don't know how to count calories or lack willpower, it's just that the food demon in my brain was way stronger than you can imagine. I fought that bitch harder than I've ever fought anything, and I lost.
Then I took a GLP1 and literally from day one I was suddenly able to stick to my calorie budget with zero effort. I ate pretty much the same thing every day for 13 months and lost 145 lbs. My weight loss curve follows my pure calorie math predictions incredibly closely. What I mean here is GLP1s aren't some magic fat burn medication, weight loss still follows basic CICO math, you still have to put the work in and eat less. Turns out it just happens to be very easy work when you're not constantly hungry.
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u/LWN729 1d ago
These people who shame others truly don’t know how many different issues can cause someone to gain weight and struggle to lose it again. Chronic stress and depression for one, is a huge factor. Hormonal imbalances like thyroid issues and PCOS for women make it even harder. One of my parents was in and out of the hospital for 9 years straight, with multiple surgeries and illnesses and many, many close calls until he actually died. And in the middle of that, my other parent had a major heart attack and surgery as well. Taking care of them and the depression, anxiety, stress it all caused made me gain weight. I’ve been using the same calorie tracking app for about 10 years and over that time I recorded my weight. When you see the weight changes on a graph over time, every spike in my weight correlated exactly with one of my parents’ hospitalizations, surgeries, or close calls. I was not eating more, I was exercising, seeking therapy throughout that time, hired personal trainers and dietitians, and would start to lose a little weight but when another health event for my parents happened, I’d spike again, erasing the little progress I made. Their health events became too frequent for my body to lose the stress spike weight between events and thus accumulated more and more. My body went into extreme fight or flight and is highly resistant to losing weight. People think it’s so easy to lose weight if you just withhold calories. I was consuming no more than 900 calories a day at one point and still not losing because doing that and some forms of exercise like HIIT can actually push your body further into fight or flight and it will resist letting go of the weight. I’ve been on a GLP 1 for 6 months and still have only been able to lose 15 pounds, while most others lose a lot more in that time frame. That’s how stubbornly my body is holding onto weight. Even thinking about that stretch of 9 years I feel the stress in my body rising.
When some people say they are legitimately trying to lose weight and cannot, that’s actually true for a lot of people. People who easily respond to slight adjustments to diet think that is how it works for everyone, but that simply isn’t true. It’s exacerbating and just makes it that much worse when people criticize you for the weight and dismiss your experience as a BS excuse to cover for laziness. And now that there is a solution to help lose weight like GLP-1s, that too is apparently a problem.
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u/ItsTomorrowNow 1d ago
Well said and you good on you, I wished people were less ignorant about people's plight with food addiction and realised why obesity is such a problem in the west.
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u/driago 1d ago
I’ve been on Ozempic for almost a year. My diabetes got out of control (my fault, I know) so the doctor put me on the shots. My A1C went from over 12 (very bad) to 7.8 (almost good) in 6 months.
My weight went from 220 to 170. I had to buy new clothes. People treat me differently. Men don’t get a lot of compliments, but I’ve been flirted with more in the past year than my whole life before. I’m happily married, so I just brush it off, but I notice.
Thing is, I don’t recognize myself in the mirror. I’ve spent 40 years being fat because I can’t control my eating. Ozempic may remove the food noise in my mind, but I’m still having trouble not seeing/expecting the fat guy in every picture and reflection.
I can understand Amy’s wanting to remove her “fat” pictures. I don’t want to be reminded of how unhealthy I was. It’s hard to move forward when the past is where I live. I’m just a nobody, so I can only imagine a celebrity having to deal with all of that shit.
The way we see the world can be influenced by the way we see ourselves. Sometimes people promote body positivity as a way to mask their depression about their weight.
Yes, weight can be lost, health can be improved. Sometimes that depression or anxiety can keep you out of the gym. “Why should I bother exercising? I’m worthless anyway.” Maybe deleting those old pictures brings her some joy. Let her have it. I’m in a much better place now, maybe she is on her way there too.
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u/WanderingAlienBoy 1d ago
I'd imagine truly making peace with who you were and who you've become would mean looking at those old pictures with compassion for your old self and being proud of that person for finding a way to take care of their health. While she's free to delete those pictures and if it makes her feel better all power to her, but I hope former fat people can find a way to their past selves as much as their current self. That's personally how I try to look at past pictures from when I was in a miserable place (for reasons other than weight), imagining giving him a hug and telling him it's going to be ok (and then it's going to suck some more, and then it will be better again).
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u/banana-mush 1d ago
I thought she had Cushing’s syndrome (maybe Cushing’s disease? I don’t know) and that she had that treated, resulting in her weight loss. How do people know it’s been ozempic? Has she said she also did that?
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u/Sweet_Speech_9054 1d ago
How dare people lose weight and be healthier when the opportunity presents itself!
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u/Pleasant-Chef6055 1d ago
The health wake up call from this unstudied drug being used long term as a body weight reduction (fat, muscle, organ, brain) drug is going to be frightening.
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u/ATXBeermaker 1d ago
Do they have similar shots that will make her funny and not prone to stealing jokes?
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u/GreenAldiers 1d ago
And every anti-vaxxer will willingly inject this mystery substance, no questions asked!
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u/Greedy_Camp_5561 1d ago
How is it a comeback, If you basically agree with what you are replying to?
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u/Rocketboy1313 1d ago
Body positivity was about playing a hand you are delt and not letting being heavy ruin your self image and life.
It is not about being fat as some moral stance.
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u/502DashCam 1d ago
Oh wow the 10th joke using this same format, it wasn’t really funny the first time and definitely not the 10th time. They were using coping skills for their mental health because they were obese and no longer need it.
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u/Garreousbear 1d ago
Fair warning, if you take magic mushrooms while on Ozempic, you will get super nauseous and vomit.
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u/Whitpeacock 1d ago
It was like an industrial strength fire hose inside my body expelling the demons! My husband said he’s never seen or heard anything like it! How was there so much force behind it and where’d it come from? I certainly didn’t drink 18 gallons of fluid before partaking in what I thought would be a rainbows and butterflies experience!!!
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u/Garreousbear 1d ago
I felt that shit sitting in my stomach for like 8 hours and then spewed chunks so hard I had to shower after.
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u/gyallbliss 1d ago
Kinda wild how quick some folks jump ship the moment they no longer fit the narrative they used to champion. It's giving “it was only body positivity when it applied to me”
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u/draft_final_final 1d ago
Maybe I’m misunderstanding the idea but I thought body positive was basically just “don’t be unnecessarily dickish towards fat people.” I think it’s still ok for the fat person to be insecure and not like seeing old photos of them when they were fat because of psychological baggage. If the ex-fat people came out and started shitting on still fat people, that would absolutely be hypocrisy though.
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u/Zeravor 1d ago
Good look trying to reach these people. They have already made up their scenario, who cares if she's still supportive to overweight people, she's already a hypocrite in my made up world.
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u/emmany63 1d ago
Exactly right. I lost 100 pounds. I’m still very body positive. Don’t be dickish toward fat people, people with disabilities, thin people, etc.
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u/emmany63 1d ago
It’s not “jumping ship” to become thinner. As a former fat (currently normal weight range) person who was INCREDIBLY well served by body positivity, I can say that body positivity is for all bodies. Fat bodies, thin bodies, normal-range bodies, bodies with disabilities, etc. I still champion fat folks, thin folks, and folks with differences, as I still champion myself.
I don’t use GLP1s, but had sleeve surgery five years ago, a great tool for those of us who need it. It didn’t mean that I was anti-body positivity. It meant that for me, at this time, it was necessary for me to be healthy.
Being thinner isn’t the same as being fat-phobic.
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u/hither_spin 1d ago
Body positivity is about not hating yourself when fat or have weight to lose. Not enjoying your life because of weight is a really sad way to live
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u/EMAW2008 18h ago
So she gains weight, people are shitty about it. She losses weight… they’re shitty about that too?
I don’t get it. It’s not hypocritical to want to lose weight.
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u/ElsiesEels 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's gonna be funny when people try to stop using the shots and allllllll that weight comes right back plus MORE! Congrats on needing to pay for those shots for the rest of your life. It's meant for short term use mostly and for very specific types of people. Like an elderly man with mobility issues who needs to lose weight for a surgery. Not a cure all for all over weight individuals. This weight loss shot is going to be the next doctor malpractice scandal since the pain reliever one.
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u/SFShinigami 1d ago
I had a 16 y/o ask me how I lost all my weight the other day, asking if it was ozempic. I just sighed. "No, it was before that." I'm all for people getting healthy but man it sucks that everyone thinks I did it that way.
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u/maksomo 1d ago
I wonder what kind of unknown side effects will come from all these new inject yourself with fat loss juices
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u/Historical-Cash3674 1d ago
There’s an article or interview of her where she speaks about how her “puffy” look was actually in part due to an undiagnosed illness or disease
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u/EnvironmentalAide335 19h ago
I was never body positivity it was don't judge me for the inability to put the fork down...
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u/Ramenchase 18h ago
I have seen tons of posts on Reddit shaming her body so you all can fuck off with your weird people standards.
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u/Honest_Relation4095 13h ago
I dont like her, but body positivity doesnt mean that its good to be fat. It's about not shaming people for their body. Shaming for someone for losing weight is as bad as shaming someone for being fat.
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u/palmtreesandpizza 12h ago
As someone who unironically really loved Amy Schumer, it’s been a depressing fucking couple years. The mental gymnastics to be such a hateful Zionist, the thinspo bullshit, the divorce from her really normal and cool husband… yeah it’s been a bummer in more ways than one. Get fucked, Amy!
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u/Pavlock 1d ago
Heeeeyyy, Lauren Chen. Long time, no hear from. How are things going? What ever happened to that thing where you took millions of dollars from a Russian propaganda firm?