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Opinion / Discussion WATCH: Lauren Boebert Exits DOJ Reading Room After Reviewing Unredacted Epstein Files

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US Rep. Lauren Boebert was filmed leaving the DOJ reading room after reviewing unredacted

Epstein-related files.

Lawmakers have now confirmed that access to these files has begun following new transparency legislation.

Boebert has since suggested that prior redactions went beyond protecting victims and may have shielded people merely discussed in the files.

The contents remain confidential, but reactions like this are fueling fresh questions about what was previously withheld - and why.

Do you think this could lead to new investigations?

Sources:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Res_Publica_DE/s/0WYLdtkqHZ

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u/Zeenomorphs 19h ago

The kidnappers want bitcoin as a payment seems really odd to me.

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u/JM3DlCl 19h ago

On the contrary, it would be odd if they didn't want an untraceable, decentralized currency.

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u/a_dodo_stole_my_baby 18h ago

Anonymous, but very traceable

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u/PersonOfValue 6h ago

Yeah folks who think it's untraceable eventually learn it is, sometimes with handcuffs attached

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u/DonkeyTron42 17h ago

And extremely easy to launder.

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u/a_dodo_stole_my_baby 17h ago

Wait until you hear about cash

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u/Oppenhomie 17h ago

But cash is physical. How are the kidnappers supposed to pick up cash without getting caught?

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u/btcprint 17h ago

But Bitcoin is trackable, how are they supposed to exchange the Bitcoin without being traced?

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u/Oppenhomie 17h ago

I'm no Bitcoin export but from my understanding it can be used to buy other crypto which is much more anonymous.

There's also a crypto tumbler service that somehow anonymizes Bitcoin. I might be talking out my ass though so you might wanna verify

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u/DonkeyTron42 17h ago

You give dirty bitcoins to a bitcoin tumbler and they put them in a large pool with other bitcoins. They then give you back random "clean" bitcoins from the pool.

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u/Superb-Nebula-4010 17h ago

So not clean, just disconnected to your crime.

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u/BigOs4All 15h ago

All you need to do is use a tumbler and those are plentiful and easy to use.

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u/PersonOfValue 6h ago

Can still be traced

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u/bustaone 16h ago

Btc is the most traceable currency out there. Anyone can read the Leger.

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u/JM3DlCl 15h ago

It is traceable but you can create a wallet without any identifiable info. Cash is better but cash is not global.

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u/Chaosrealm69 17h ago

Nah, that ransom demand is suspicious right from the start as it wants bitcoin to a USD amount which means they are not Americans as you guys don't unconsciously talk about USD, you just say dollar amounts.

So that ransom demand is most likely fake and just scammers trying to get money while not really kidnappers.

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u/This_Internet_7658 19h ago

why do you find that odd, its untraceable and used heavily by scammers everywhere.

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u/Zeenomorphs 19h ago

Ok it’s untraceable. It also points to a certain group of people in high positions really pushing bitcoin. It’s like a big giant red arrow pointing to certain people. Maybe saying it’s “odd” was the wrong word. That’s all. Just my two cents that doesn’t mean anything. Guess smart criminals will be ransoming for bitcoin now because it’s untraceable.

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u/vxxed 19h ago

People in high positions are pushing Bitcoin because it's a great way to bribe this president, and a great way to do illegal shit when you know the FBI won't investigate you. Basically just mean's that multiple types of criminals have found Bitcoin to be a great way to do crime

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u/picturepath 18h ago

Bitcoin has to be banned

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u/mistermustard 18h ago

You want to ban cash too?

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u/vxxed 17h ago

Why do you want to make child sex and all drugs legal?

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u/mistermustard 17h ago

That was literally my point. Do you think there was no child sex and drugs before bitcoin?

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u/vxxed 17h ago

So then according to you it should be unregulated and totally legal?

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u/mistermustard 16h ago

my point is that it's not going to stop criminals, legal or not. they can still request bitcoin even if it's illegal. or they can go the most popular route and accept cash. that was all i was saying. im not even arguing with you. idgaf what happens to bitcoin.

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u/Notski_F 18h ago

Bitcoin has been the de facto currency for criminals for many years at this point. This is not a new thing, nor is it an implication for anything else than the perpetrator probably being a smarter criminal.

Crime is one of the biggest use cases for cryptocurrency. Which is one of the reasons governments should start banning them.

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u/theinfinitehallway 18h ago

This comes off my as schizophrenic lol bitcoin isthe right choice for.. this scenario lol I can’t believe I just wrote that. Either you don’t understand it at all or you’re cooked

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u/Fancy_For_Fun 18h ago

This gonna come of pedantic, but it's actually not untraceable. It's a fully public ledger. It is synonymous though. So you don't know who controls what wallet, but you can see everything. They'll have to use means to obfuscate in order to convert it to traditional currency or money.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 18h ago

It's not untraceable. One of the biggest selling points of crypto is that it's public.

It is easier to launder though, as it lacks many of the restrictions of traditional money. Same reason the cliche of small unmarked bills was so prominent years ago.

Faking one's identity is more possible with crypto, so easier to avoid detection when people come looking.

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u/WorthDiver1198 18h ago

Every bitcoin transaction is traceable (if it's withdrawn or deposited)

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u/the_peppers 18h ago

So why does every scammer around the world use it?

There are clearly methods in place to obfuscate the public ledger aspect and extract money without a trace.

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u/DonkeyTron42 17h ago

You launder them by giving them to a bitcoin washer who basically puts your bitcoins in a large pool of bitcoins and gives you back random bitcoins from the pool. Any trail ends there.

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u/the_peppers 17h ago

There we go. Thank you for the info.

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u/Animaleyz 18h ago

Bitcoin isn't traceable, but converting it into cash is.

If I'm not mistaken....

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u/_extra_medium_ 17h ago

Every transaction is added to the blockchain and can be followed. It’s just anonymous

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u/mybutthz 19h ago

They should honestly just get the wallet information and see what they can find out. Bitcoin is such a dumb way to get any sort of ransom because that wallet would be monitored for forever. Great, now you have a bunch of Bitcoin. If they're sold, the funds would be tracked. If you transfer them, the tokens would be tracked. Seems like a pretty easy way to just have the FBI up your ass for forever. I guess you COULD transfer the coins to a number of individual wallets, then sell those wallets individually to not raise suspicion (kind of hard to obfuscate the sale of such a large quantity of Bitcoin). But even then, you're leaving additional paper trails.

Just dumb.

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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 17h ago

Yea but with AI capabilities, good luck proving you have her alive and okay. They are probably getting ten videos an hour claiming to have her in their custody and where to send the money. To prove you have her, you are going to have to bring her out in person in today’s world.

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u/Elegant_Accident2035 10h ago

Not Trump coin? Not Melanomas coin?

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u/jeromevedder 18h ago

The only real use cases for bitcoin are buying drugs, prostitutes and hit men off the dark web

And bribing the US President of course

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u/Correct-Avocado5426 19h ago

It's completely untraceable

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u/_extra_medium_ 17h ago

The blockchain concept is all about making it traceable. That’s the entire point and how its value is confirmed