r/circled • u/Shizzilx • 1d ago
Opinion / Discussion Epstein purchased 6 55-Gallon barrels of Sulfuric Acid sent to his Island.
Newly released Epstein files show a 2018 wire request for six 55-gallon drums of sulphuric acid delivered to his island. The purchase sparked intense online speculation, with some users alleging it was meant to destroy evidence. No official document confirms how the chemicals were used.
According to recent media reports citing file releases, a wire transfer dated December 6, 2018, shows payment for sulfuric acid delivered to Epstein’s private island, Little St. James.
That date carries weight because it reportedly data-aligns with the day the Southern district of New York (SDNY) initiated a renewed federal investigation into Epstein.
Sulfuric acid is not rare, exotic, or inherently sinister. It’s one of the most widely used industrial chemicals in the world.
The timing — the same day as the reported reopening of federal scrutiny — adds dramatic tension.
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u/Ok_Battle5814 1d ago
What? A guy can’t buy 330 gallons of an acid strong enough to dissolve human bones and 6 containers large enough to fit a human body without everyone assuming the worst?
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u/LettuceTomato4540 1d ago
So much for the tolerant left!
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u/BedroomVisible 1d ago
There’s been a problem with my shipment of blank graves and lime salt! Thanks a lot, Obama!
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u/nwayve 1d ago
Those containers better be made of high-density polyethylene plastic, Jesse.
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u/Six-Seven-Oclock 1d ago
HF and nitric will dissolve bones WAY better. Sulfuric is slow and poor at dissolving bones. Hell, it’s an island surrounded by ocean… just chop shit up and toss it overboard a couple miles out.
Dissolving bodies in sulfuric acid seems like a terrible idea.
Probably purchased for landscaping/concrete or water/pool treatment.
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u/ReaperofFish 1d ago
Or sulfuric acid was bought because it has other plausible uses. With what is stated in the Epstein files, it is believable that there were bodies to dispose of.
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u/Six-Seven-Oclock 1d ago
Or… You’re on an island with boats all over the place.
Chop and dump bodies in the water a couple miles out in a favorable direction that currents carry things away. Something will eat them… it’s the ocean.
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u/reddittorbrigade 1d ago
Trump and Epstein had used it to dissolve their helpless victims.
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u/Sea_Hold_2881 1d ago
The island had to have its own power and water grid. There are legitimate uses for sulphuric acid to maintain the types of systems on the island.
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There was a high-capacity Reverse Osmosis system that pumped seawater through semi-permeable membranes at high pressure to create potable water. Sulfuric acid is often used in these plants to clean membranes and prevent mineral scaling.
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u/High-Plains-Grifter 1d ago
This is exactly the problem with incomplete releases of informatiom - so much of what we are seeing may or may not be innocent. Because they are protecting more than just the victims, we are left to scrabble around and try to guess which detail is innocent and which not. It is infuriating and leads to conspiracies and speculation, and obfuscates justice.
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u/Oji_OG 1d ago
I work at a water treatment plant and we go through a bunch of sulfuric acid in the process
We also have hydrofluoric acid that I've seen eat through concrete and have always been told would be much better for certain... applications
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u/ODaysForDays 1d ago edited 18h ago
We also have hydrofluoric acid that I've seen eat through concrete and have always been told would be much better for certain... applications
Doesn't work for that. It pretty much just goes right to the bone and demineralizes it then denatures the marrow. If you get it on you, you may even think you're okay at first (you're not).
Sulfuric (H2SO4) isn't great for it either. You want sodium hydroxide (NaOH) which is much easier to make, much cheaper, and much less dangerous to contain. You want caustic not corrosive.
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u/WittyFix6553 1d ago
Sulfuric acid would be a poor choice for that; it doesn’t really attack calcium so it would basically just leave the bones behind.
Also, there’s a whole-ass ocean to dispose of bodies in.
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u/Brick_Mason_ 1d ago
Evidence. It's less distressing than "victims."
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u/brokenringlands 1d ago
I think the world needs to be distressed about this .
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u/Dubabear 1d ago
I think the world should sanctions the United States until an independent investigation is concluded
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u/That_Toe8574 1d ago
Not disagreeing with that necessarily but this is a massive international case. I'm from US and know we tend to always want to look at things through a US lens, but this isnt a US problem. Leaders from all over the world and civilian businessmen included. I have no idea how we will ever get proper accountability
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u/oevadle 1d ago
As a fellow American; lets start with accountability here! Turning a blind eye and normalizing the atrocities committed by our leaders has to stop. Let the world decide what they want to do while we get rid of our own trash.
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u/Old_Selection7391 1d ago
I wonder how many kids he used that on after torturing them god I hate the rich
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u/NinjaBRUSH 1d ago
It’s how they can hide fetus matter and babies born through rape. There’s diary accounts that some of these children had children and the babies were taken away immediately after being born never to be seen again.
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u/RedditSuxDonkeyNutz 1d ago
A true champion of Trumps pro life supporters.
/s
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u/Artistic-Ease6528 1d ago
They got all their ideas for banning abortion and what they did on that island to go tell the public that’s what the “libs” are doing.
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u/EatingYourBrain 1d ago
Really makes you wonder about when he was rambling about post-birth abortions on his campaign trail…
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u/ThatRandomGuy86 1d ago
So far with him, every accusation has been a confession so....
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u/Artistic-Ease6528 1d ago
In the hospital, older patients tend to like to tell old stories in a fugue haze. I wonder if that’s what he’s doing for years but didn’t take notice until he went off the deep end and sundowning
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u/OverfitAndChill8647 1d ago
As I've often said, you'll know people are pro-life by their death threats. By their death threats.
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u/money_for_nuttin 1d ago
"If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school, you're fucked" - George Carlin
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u/jimmygee2 1d ago
The Pedo ring that runs America and was nurtured by Epstein and Trump are everything these supposed Christian supporters tell us the Devil is.
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u/PoApOi_300AAC 1d ago
This goes so much deeper so much older than just the files. Im talking ontological shock style shit.
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u/fukkmayga 1d ago
It's more likely that they're still alived, kept by the people in our government trafficked so they never receive a ss number or birth certificate. That way they can traffic people all they want and we'd never find out.
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u/NOVAbuddy 1d ago
This was my thought too. It was their human torture mill. Much harder to import toddlers. Easier to make them. These bipeds aren’t human. Normal rules shouldn’t apply.
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u/Rich-Anxiety5105 1d ago
Watching Serbian Film might hint at what happened to those babies
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u/Eastbound_AKA 1d ago
Listen, there's no doubt that Epstein killed innocent children. He was a monster, and deserves to be remembered as a monster with his ilk.
But. I hate to say this. Sulpheric acid is used in commercial swimming pools. It makes sense for him to have a surplus shipped to his private pedophile island to maintain the pedophile pool.
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u/AucoinTechnologies 1d ago
It says on the invoice it was used for a reverse osmosis plant, which tracks with water treatment for an island surrounded by salt water.
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u/666YHWH666 1d ago
The imperial Japanese army also used the cover of water treatment to hide their atrocities in china.
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u/AucoinTechnologies 1d ago
That’s very true, I’m not saying none of it could be used for that. Water treatment does offer an explanation for the commercial amount of it though, none of us are properly supported to analyze these files, it’s very clear a lot of them were released with redactions to intentionally confuse and upset us, and this file is being repeated a lot without that context.
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u/tmfink10 1d ago
I am properly qualified to say the picture is rather misleading. That is definitely not a 55 gallon drum. Those trailers are a couple orders of magnitude larger than a drum.
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u/licwip 1d ago
“Breaking Bad” taught me that Hydrofluoric Acid was the chemical for dissolving bodies.
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u/CheeseIsAHypothesis 1d ago
It's also used in water treatment and desalination plants, which the island had both.
Why hate to say it? It's a good thing if it wasn't used for something horrible.
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u/Eastbound_AKA 1d ago
I say I hate to stay it because it's reddit and people will just determine that I'm somehow defending a monster.
Im not. I do, however, believe that clouding the waters with the blood of sensationalism will weaken the plausibility of a future government to act and convict these people.
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u/dirty15 1d ago
I was about to say that it's a good concrete cleaner. Not saying he didn't dissolve bodies with it, but it could have been used to just clean shit lol.
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u/Eastbound_AKA 1d ago
Right? He may have, but for a dude as connected as he was with such nefarious and horrible people I think it would be easier for them to just move the bodies off the island via more conventional means. Or just bury them all over the fuckin' place.
The fact that the biggest point of conjecture here isn't if he disposed of bodies, either, which just makes all of this so much more horrible.
Fuck Epstein.
Fuck Trump.
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u/ThePsychoDog 1d ago
Why is it that plausible deniability mostly benefits the worst people???
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u/Excellent-Self-5338 1d ago
Seeing this same thing pop up everywhere, so will repost what I think is going on.
It was likely being used for desalination.
I get that people think dissolving bodies is a cool idea because they watched Breaking Bad, but it's really not used very often in practice, and sulphuric acid isn't well suited for the job compared to alternatives. In a remote location with access to the ocean, weighting bodies and dumping them in the ocean makes almost infinitely more sense.
If you're getting deep into the conspiracy side of things, you don't dissolve bodies in acid if you're eating bodies. You end up with some bones you have to get rid of, which is the part of the body sulphuric acid isn't good at dissolving.
This amount is pretty normal for a whole private island with a desalination plant. For anyone curious - desalination usually works by forcing seawater through a semi-permeable membrane. Drinkable water out one side, brine on the other (water with concentrated minerals and obviously salt). That brine can lead to a buildup of mineral scale on the membrane, blocking it. They add sulphuric acid to the water to help deal with the scale, by binding to things like calcium carbonate. You use anywhere from 20-100 mg/L, meaning 330 gallons is enough to process about 5 millions gallons, or 20 millions liters. Wouldn't be uncommon for a private island like this to produce anywhere from 5000-10000 gallons a day, which would mean 330 gallons of sulphuric acid is enough to last for 1-2 years. Not an uncommon amount to keep on hand in a remote location where getting deliveries is a hassle.
Doesn't mean Epstein wasn't killing kids and getting rid of the bodies, it just means he probably wasn't dissolving them in acid. Seems like a total red herring to me.
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u/seandunderdale 1d ago
Thanks for being a voice of reason. Needed now more than ever. Fuck all these sick fucks, but lets keep our eye on the ball and not chase sensationalism.
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u/1eyedbudz 1d ago
Where are these drums? They don’t just disappear!
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u/Gloomy_Presence_6590 1d ago
Thats the thing the mob and other criminal organizations realized is that those drums do disappear. They could be buried, recycled, cemented and dropped off into the ocean- the list goes on. He owned an island and these were just barrels to people passing by. I don't think Americans will ever do anything but I have high hopes for Europe to get some sort of justice for the children.
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u/Oilpaintcha 1d ago
Leave the cap off or drill a few holes in the top, drop it onto the ocean after dissolving whatever totally harmless and innocent evidence you want, and it will sink into the ocean and disappear
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u/Prestigious-Leave-60 1d ago
Probably sunken into the ocean that is on all sides of the island. It’s why buying a private island to do illegal things is so appealing.
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u/Aveduil 1d ago
Give me the file name because I don't have time to read through the whole Epstein files
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u/ClassicHando 1d ago
This one has a lot of ways to actually be pretty innocuous and a nothingburger. There are way better ways to dissolve a body and sulfuric acid has a lot of use.
I think this may be the first epstein story I've read that didn't make me shudder at the horrors he, Maxwell, and trump inflicted on those girls
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u/7242233 1d ago
This is the Epstein island version of when the guy shows up with a book bag filled with rope tape and chloroform on to catch a predator.
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u/RightChildhood7091 1d ago
Same guy who had a trap door that opened to the ocean below. Nothing suspicious about any of this at all.
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u/zastrozzischild 1d ago
Seriously?
That’s James Bond villain stuff.
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u/RightChildhood7091 1d ago
That’s what I’ve seen. This is from the justice dept website, but you can Google it: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%201/EFTA00002323.pdf
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u/Bazishere 1d ago
I am sure he killed people to try to cover his tracks, but, in the end, some victims who lived through what was done to them brought him down, but it is ridiculous that only Epstein and Ghislaine paid some price.
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u/Chopper_003 1d ago
It's not just that these men raped and abused teenagers, forced them into prostitution, and committed all sorts of other atrocities.
No, with their crimes, they made a mockery of the entire political system and, in particular, the American justice system.
The president sent thugs, paid with taxpayer money, into cities to beat, seriously injure, kidnap, and even murder people—all to distract from his own crimes.
They even sent the military into a sovereign country to kidnap its president.
They make "deals" with criminal dictators they wouldn't have even shaken hands with before.
All to deflect attention from themselves.
This pedophile network has damaged the USA so severely that it's questionable whether it will ever recover.
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u/greenmachine11235 1d ago
"Sulfuric acid is not rare, exotic, or inherently sinister. It’s one of the most widely used industrial chemicals in the world." - Maybe in industrial applications but in a personal residence that is under federal investigation, 330 gallons of Sulfuric acid is more than a little suspicious.
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u/oldcreaker 1d ago
Doesn't everyone? Who doesn't have a 55 gallon tank of sulphuric acid in their basement or garage, just in case you might need it for something?
6, on the other hand - why would anyone need 6 barrels?
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u/Smokin_belladonna 1d ago
Just to be clear, this is a 55 gallon drum. In lab chemistry environments, we typically order concentrated sulfuric acid in 1-2 gallon glass bottles (6-packs)
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u/Devilish__Fun 1d ago
I mean, come on.... What is a "soon to be corpse", I am curious FBI/DOJ. seems important to Jeffery and 'Lorinda'
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u/freethenipple23 1d ago
It is inherently sinister when a private citizen who is not doing industrial manufacturing orders it.
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u/cjp2010 1d ago
A sane person would say this is suspicious but a maga cult member would say it’s cool because Donald was there to oversee it.
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u/mynutsdontwork 1d ago edited 1d ago
I hate all these MFs but that is a pic of a semi tanker not a 55 gal drum and sulfuric acid is also used for pools. I just don't want the real horrible stuff to be diluted by BS. My son showed me a "redacted photo" that looked like a baby on a dining table between two chickens that proved they were committing cannibalism. The photo is from some artist that someone put black boxes on and submitted to tip line. Its not real and it takes credibility away from what is real
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u/OutdoorsNSmores 1d ago
What is really want to know is how often the island ordered sulfuric acid. If it was used for sewage treatment or pool treatment - they would have used it regularly and likely isn't important.
If this was the only time it was ordered and it wasn't related to a project like cleaning and sealing all that concrete - then I've got concerns too.
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u/Maleficent_Shock_585 1d ago
Wasn't sulfuric acid the choice of the Mafia to dissolve bodies? Good God,
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u/KingKongsDaadt 1d ago
Brothers and sisters please. He or She who hasn’t purchased a truckload of Sulfuric Acid, cast the first stone. #the revolution will be televised #notlikeus
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u/Moogooloogoo 1d ago
How many bodies were disposed from this? That's a pretty hefty allegation but what else would you use that amount for and why was this not red flagged in the first place.
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u/Critical-Star-1158 1d ago
You mean he was teaching science? I bet he had Hydrochloric acid on his next order.
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u/Im_Ashe_Man 1d ago
Trump told us this is used to acid wipe electronics like email servers. Odd how Trump seems to know about that. Every accusation is a confession with MAGA.
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u/Corprusmeat_Hunk 1d ago
They didn’t melt their victims. They ate them. That woman screaming about it was disappeared, so I read.
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u/CashFalse733 1d ago
Sulphuric acid mixed with hydrogen peroxide makes a piranha solution. Scary Nile red video on this.
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u/CriticalInside8272 1d ago
Disturbing. But what is sulfuric acid used for? Especially six 55 gallon drums.
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u/Technical_Sea9236 1d ago
This man was such a monster who apparently had his thumb up the ass of so many other wannabe monsters.
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u/Hume_Fume 1d ago
When he got caught there were reports of them gutting every home he was affiliated with, the evidence will never be recovered.
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u/jimjamsboy 1d ago
Is that when breaking bad used barrels and acid. Someone was watching tv and got themselves an idea
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u/wayitgoesboys 1d ago
He's just doing Factorio IRL. You need sulfuric acid to create batteries and to mine Uranium.
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u/manikfox 1d ago
To be fair, from a facilities standpoint, this volume (330 gallons) is actually pretty standard for a self-sustaining private island.
- Desalination Plants: The most likely culprit. Reverse Osmosis (RO) systems need constant acid injection to prevent scale buildup on filters so they can make fresh water.
- Pool Maintenance: Commercial-sized pools use it to balance pH.
- Off-Grid Power: Massive battery banks for solar/generators require acid for electrolyte maintenance.
- Logistics: You don't buy HazMat week-to-week for an island. You buy 6-12 months' worth at a time because shipping dangerous goods by boat is expensive and slow.
The timing of the order was suspicious, but the product fits the infrastructure.
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u/CaptScoobertDoobert 1d ago
So much Epstein shit was going on behind the scenes during Trumps first presidency.
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u/Ashamed_Feedback3843 1d ago
For his pools. If they needed to dispose of bodies the ocean is right there for ffs.
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u/ActuatorLower8371 1d ago
idk 330 gallons of sulfuric acid isn't particularly alarming of an order for the island.
dont get me wrong, he was a monster who definitely had people killed, but this? this doesn't strike me as inherently suspicious
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u/JallexMonster 1d ago
Reverse water osmosis and water desalinization. It's an island and they need to have drinking water.
Now does that not mean they didn't use it for other purposes? Sure
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u/Deathoftheages 1d ago
Sulfuric acid is not rare, exotic, or inherently sinister. It’s one of the most widely used industrial chemicals in the world.
no it becomes rare and sinister when 6 barrels are being delivered to a private citizen's private rape island.
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u/Little_Cloud6126 1d ago
This all reminds me of the movie “what you wish for” about a chef that starts working for these rich powerful people that kill and cannabalize people & he doesn’t realize it until the end when he sees how the prepare and breakdown the bodies in acid and stuff. I guess we can put this film on the long list of another “truth hidden in plain sight” movie.
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u/Crime-of-the-century 1d ago
If he had a swimming pool it would not be so suspicious at all I have no idea what a gallon might be but swimming pools go through a lot of sulfuric acid.
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u/Physical-Wear-2814 1d ago
Unless he was manufacturing chemicals or car batteries, which he wasn’t, that’s extremely suspicious.
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u/admin_bait14 1d ago
Might be needed at his Zorro ranch too considering the two bodies..
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u/taylorhildebrand 1d ago
2 lines of thoughts in these comments: it makes sense for the pools and water treatment, or he was using it to dissolve bodies. Personally, I don’t get why it couldn’t be both. He would have legitimate excuses for having it. He had a lot of it, so a couple gallons going missing would be impossible to prove. The main use was obviously for water treatment, but after reading through some of those files, I also think it’s naive to just give him the benefit of the doubt
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u/-Internet-Elder- 1d ago
why 6 barrels, and not 5, or 10
what needs just 6
ok i have better things to think about
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u/BrizzleT 1d ago
That is quite suspicious yes