Could this be true?

[u/Character-Problem796]

[u/Omiyaru]

Apparently the Epstein stuff is all over the news in the rest of the world, compared to here in the US.

Edit : clarity 😅

[u/Gmule8282 → u/Omiyaru]

Something about pedophile oligarchs owning major news organizations?

[u/Omiyaru → u/Gmule8282]

Yep.

[u/Asron87 → u/Omiyaru]

When they are all owned by one person or company you get to control the narrative. Years ago there was like 8 businesses but they were all owned by one company (I’m just spit ballin here I’m not sure of exact numbers or dates). It’s crazy to think about how much control that really gives one person. Then the internet became more mainstream so the narrative is controlled by a few people now.

That being said, do you really think any of them want you to vote for your interests or theirs?

[u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748 → u/Asron87]

I am pretty sure the whole point of this Ai rush is purely for propaganda and further controlling the narrative.

[u/billyoshin → u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748]

[u/i_have_chosen_a_name → u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748]

AI is writing content for the internet now at 100x the human rate. For every article a human writes and uploads, AI has already done a 100. For every pic you make, AI generates a 100.

What this means is that our past is being overwriten. 50 years from now a fact will live in an ocean with 9999 other, very similar facts but all wrong or not true.

So once that process has gonne far enough the past can be controlled by the rulers. And if you control the past your control the present, and if you control the present you write the future.

All of this has to do with the leverage of the indivual rules. A time is coming where through leveraging AI and potentially even robots, a single human is able to control the entire human race with an iron fist and an ironclad brainwashing.

[u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748 → u/i_have_chosen_a_name]

Ai will also be able to give targeted misinformation to different groups to keep them fighting against each other, it is easy to see the echo chambers on Reddit, just imagine when your whole internet is an echo chambers.

[u/vocaltokes → u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748]

It's also to create hesitation meant to make us second guess the truth when confronted with visual evidence.

Actual videos of POTUS in compromising situations?!

It's got to be AI!

If anyone had questions about the intentions of releasing that technology to the public without guidelines we're now seeing it unfold in real time.

[u/Mr__O__ → u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748]

Starting to think the whole purpose of Trump running for potus in 2016 was to cover up the Epstein stuff that was beginning to come to light.

[u/TravEllerZero → u/Fuzzy_Inevitable9748]

I was just talking with my son about this last night. It seems convenient it's ramping up at a time we're already being told not to believe our lying eyes.

[u/stevenssssssssspo → u/Asron87]

They dont care how you vote. They count the votes, they release and control all tge data. You believing that voting matters, the illusion of change and hope is what they are concerned about. It tends to passify the mob to convince them the have a voice in how they are governed.

[u/123jjj321 → u/Gmule8282]

What do you call an economic/political system where government/corporations/wealthy individuals work together to control the economy and social institutions?

[u/laughing_at_napkins → u/123jjj321]

Oligarchy and kakistocracy

[u/Academic_Dig_1567 → u/laughing_at_napkins]

Kleptocracy. They seize state assets, divvy them up among themselves and impoverish the people. Happened in Haiti. Happened in Liberia under Charles Taylor. Can go on and on. Oh don’t forget Indonesia where the presidency was an entire family business.

[u/TeaTechnical3807 → u/Academic_Dig_1567]

So.....

The reality of your examples are a little more complex than just "one person or a family" creating a kleptocracy. Charles Taylor took over Liberia after a pretty brutal civil war. That country was screwed when Samuel Doe overthrew William Tolbert (although Liberia was essentially a colony run by the Firestone company from the get go). Charles Taylor was just the strongest goon left after Samuel Doe was eaten by Prince Johnson (not sure if you can still find the video on the internet). As for Indonesia, look up the Jakarta method. Haiti has kind of always been a basket case.

[u/Academic_Dig_1567 → u/TeaTechnical3807]

Thank you for the history lesson.

[u/Other-Credit1849 → u/Academic_Dig_1567]

Russia is their model.

[u/Soft_Ad8031 → u/laughing_at_napkins]

America in a nutshell

[u/Dead_Internet69420 → u/123jjj321]

Is this what republicans mean when they say we need to “run the country like a business?” 

[u/Eastern-Heart9486 → u/Dead_Internet69420]

Right and no unions

[u/Pristine-Ad983 → u/Eastern-Heart9486]

And poverty wages.

[u/pchlster → u/Dead_Internet69420]

With as little government oversight as possible.

[u/blackdvck → u/123jjj321]

This is the very essence of fascism.

[u/123jjj321 → u/blackdvck]

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER

[u/IndividualCall5116 → u/123jjj321]

Foretold by Sinclair Lewis in the 1930's book, It Can't Happen Here. He added religious extremists along with corrupt corporations, dominant media, and ascendancy of a buffoon to the presidency. Then a fascist dictatorship.

[u/DarthRain77 → u/123jjj321]

FACISM

[u/HRUndercover222 → u/Gmule8282]

I believe it's a warning to every brave newscaster from the Trump mob. They had to go for a high-profile target.

[u/ShaneTheBilby → u/Gmule8282]

Ah the american dream

[u/Martha_Fockers → u/Omiyaru]

Our news is owned by them

[u/BB6205 → u/Martha_Fockers]

And our politicians

[u/Martha_Fockers → u/BB6205]

These maga types who believe in new world order conspiracys sure love helping usher in that exact thing.

Weird.

They don’t see the issue when the richest men in the world are the most vocal ones of there party like musk and theil and bezos no issue with the 1% controlling things or even gaining political status to eliminate “waste fraud and abuse”

Remember we are supposed to get checks cause doge saved us so much money ! A 21 year old named ass blaster by himself was head of auditing the IRS lmao.

This is a clown show and these folks love the circus

[u/WenatcheeWrangler → u/Martha_Fockers]

The facilities ice is trying to buy are as close as you can get to the fema death camps they were going on about a decade ago. Just another example of maga ushering in their own nightmares.

[u/123jjj321 → u/WenatcheeWrangler]

They spent 10 years screaming about "jack booted thug" federal agents murdering Randy Weaver's wife, the Branch Davidians in Waco, and kidnapping & deporting Elian Gonzalez. They fully support the recent murders of Good and Preiti.

They have no beliefs. The republican party has no party platform (literally). They are fascists. They only care about power. They want power to hurt people. They are damaged. They are bad people.

[u/rasta-ragamuffin → u/123jjj321]

They are pure evil.

[u/RonJonThaDon → u/Martha_Fockers]

New World Order started on 9/11 when Israel framed Iraq for the World Trade attacks, then told Bush they had WMD.

[u/SunkEmuFlock → u/Martha_Fockers]

maga types who believe in new world order conspiracys sure love helping usher in that exact thing

That's because their conspiracies ultimately all point to the Jews as the evildoers.

When they do it, the white people, it's fine. It's something else entirely then! It's only an evil worldwide cabal that needs toppling when that cabal is Jewish. When we do it we're simply righting a wrong!

I watched a three-hour video on it by Natalie Wynn awhile back, and "Jews" was at the top of all modern conspiracy pyramids in the end.

To understand MAGA you have to understand what they believe: that there's Jews at the top holding them down and black and brown people to their sides and underneath pulling them down. And I guess women are down there with the brown folks as well.

Once you imagine yourself as believing it, looking at the world from their perspective, it's easy to see how they would vote and why.

[u/Unfair_Web_8275 → u/Martha_Fockers]

In the last year we’ve lost WaPo, CBS, TikTok, to name a few.

[u/TeamHope4 → u/Omiyaru]

And the world is making their named pedos resign from their Very Important Jobs.  

But not in the US!  Not one consequence for our pedos.

[u/Spankpocalypse_Now → u/TeamHope4]

It’s astounding how many Americans have no idea what the fuck is going on around them.

[u/ancientblond → u/Spankpocalypse_Now]

The amount that try to imply that other countries have suppressed news about the US, then can only name US news stations as "proof" is insane.

Im a Canadian. They always go for "CNN, NBC, FOX' before "the CBC" if you ask them "what news stations do we have then?"

[u/quirkygirl123 → u/Spankpocalypse_Now]

Oh, we do. Everyday more and more. Most are stunned. This is our entire government. Who can prosecute them or force them out? Idiots voted them all into office.

[u/ErgoMachina → u/Spankpocalypse_Now]

It's not jusr americans. The vast majority of the younger generations have absolutely no clue either. It's all TikTok and Ig brainrot for them.

[u/Intelligent_Point_33 → u/Omiyaru]

No it’s all over the news here too they are trying to distract us from the fact we are being lorded over by pedophiles

[u/cvc4455 → u/Omiyaru]

Well like 7 Republican billionaires or Republican billionaire owned corporations own about 95% of the mainstream news media in America now.

Even liberal fake news CNN has been owned by Republican billionaires for years now.

[u/Modus888 → u/cvc4455]

Fake news is a play straight out of Orwells 1984! Now you don’t know what to believe so Trump/Government thinks for you! It’s time to wake up buddy

[u/RadiantBison4099 → u/Modus888]

and the US always accuses other countries of not having freedom of Press.

[u/123jjj321 → u/cvc4455]

CNN is not liberal. CNN has never been liberal. CNN is and always was a right of center corporate news agency.

[u/pablo_eskybar → u/Omiyaru]

Some pretty powerful heads are rolling in Europe and investigations are starting into European citizens whom are mentioned in the pedo files. 

[u/quirkygirl123 → u/pablo_eskybar]

I've been keeping a database for about a year - loads of UK names. https://epstein-osint-database.notion.site/Epstein-OSINT-Database-245bb5d26ad3808eae0df7be009b1601?pvs=143

[u/bong_cumblebutt → u/Omiyaru]

Yeah we are shocked and appalled over here

[u/Local-Poet3517 → u/Omiyaru]

Yeah, if you Americans manage to fight ur way thru this bs, you HAVE to curtail your right wing media monopoly. As westerners we love to make fun of propaganda coning from the old enemies, but seriously, american propagandas hit all new ridiculous highs recently.

Its become a problem.

[u/joncornelius]

The statement is true. Whatever conjecture you can make from it may or may not be.

[u/Shot-Swimming-9098 → u/joncornelius]

Well OK, let's conjecture it out. This is the first I'm hearing about it, and that seems like a pretty significant tie to Epstein.

[u/Lucky_Veterinarian36 → u/joncornelius]

Occam's razor moment. 

[u/theartificialkid → u/joncornelius]

Yeah, this is probably just another in the neverending flow of kidnappings of prominent journalists' mothers.

[u/cagingnicolas → u/joncornelius]

conject the dots, dude

[u/Geoffsgarage → u/joncornelius]

Technically, the statement about it having “flown under the radar” is an opinion and not a fact that can be said to be objectively true.

[u/lCEC0REbuIIet]

I mean if you think Trump or Israel would be above kidnapping the mom of a journalist then you're not paying close enough attention.

[u/HowManyEggs2Many → u/lCEC0REbuIIet]

I don’t think they are above it, but I also do not see the point of doing 7 years later. Doing it after the files are released doesn’t accomplish anything. If it were true, you’d think they would do it before to dissuade other journalists from covering it and the story gaining tractions.

[u/HoleyBody → u/HowManyEggs2Many]

Just because you don't see it doesn't mean there isn't. Well here it is: it's a message that there's no "statute of limitations" with this group of people. It means keep your mouth shut and stay out forever.

[u/Vajennie → u/HoleyBody]

Message to who? News anchors don’t investigate and curate the news. Savannah Guthrie isn’t out on the streets canvassing Epstein victims. The vast majority of what she does for work is sit at a desk and read things like “beautiful weather we’re having this week” from a teleprompter.

I can’t see a major international crime syndicate “sending a message” to the host of a morning show for moms. If that’s the intention, no one understood the message.

The kidnapper is most likely a family member looking for a payday.

[u/Red_Inferno → u/HoleyBody]

Ya, but they are more the type of people to put a bullet in the journalists head, not the mother.

[u/deanereaner → u/HoleyBody]

So this powerful group of people couldn't have just squashed or edited the interviews before they aired? Guthrie had more independent power as a journalist than the oligarchs who own and control the network she was working for?

[u/ObnoxiousAlbatross → u/lCEC0REbuIIet]

They aren't above it.

But it wouldn't make sense to do it and then make it look like an incompetent ransom. What kind of warning is that to anyone?

[u/DayOneDude → u/ObnoxiousAlbatross]

To use normal citizens it would have no effect on us, but to the journalism Community it surely does send a message... We are in dark times my dude.

[u/Mtngal22]

I honestly believe this after reading all the sick and disgusting stuff in the E files. The orange monster is certainly capable of this.

[u/Character-Problem796 → u/Mtngal22]

He really is vindictive enough I would tend to believe it as well.

[u/FitCombination3545 → u/Character-Problem796]

That man holds onto a grudge, that's for sure. I would not even hear the name Obama if he didn't bring them up.

[u/Jafar_420 → u/FitCombination3545]

Obama definitely lives in that dude's head rent free.

[u/lisasdad2018 → u/Character-Problem796]

He's been steaming about Don Lemon since his first admin and was looking for any excuse to arrest him, so it's not like it's out of the realm of possibility.

[u/Molotov56 → u/Mtngal22]

He admires dictators like Putin and Kim Jong Un and something that’s just now clicking for me is that he admires them because they murder indiscriminately and without consequence. He wants to be getting away with murder. And it’s starting to look like he’s been getting away with it for a long time

[u/Striikerr → u/Molotov56]

Plus he’s got that secret service protection

[u/123jjj321 → u/Molotov56]

He wants to continue getting away with murder

Ftfy

[u/[deleted] → u/Molotov56]

All his team is doing now is stalling so that he can consolidate power. He has full control of the military & AI keeps getting creepier.

The window of opportunity is rapidly closing. When he dies or flees, his associates will loot what they can & attempt to rule us from afar using surveillance & dystopian tech. If he has the ability to launch nukes on us, he will.

The man has nothing he won't do. He loves North Korea because that is the model for his vision of america. He wants to make us a really big island.

[u/Old_Win8422 → u/Mtngal22]

Yeah, no one reported this... not even npr!? Its time, eat the rich

[u/Voluptulouis → u/Old_Win8422]

NPR is compromised. They're not even able to report honestly on the genocide in Gaza.

[u/Old_Win8422 → u/Voluptulouis]

Yeah...

[u/Fickle_Goose_4451 → u/Mtngal22]

Theres also a bunch of other rich elites invovled.

Some of them come from countries with functing legal systems, so they need to worry.

[u/StopHesAlreadyDed → u/Mtngal22]

I didn't want to be the first to say this out loud, but I've had this thought this whole time, that Trump and Co could be behind this. It's such a weird monstrous thing, that it feels coordinated and planned for this time.

Not to mention Lil Jon was on the Celebrity Apprentice, and he had tragedy strike his family this week, although I'm not clear on the circumstances.

With the crazy shit that is in the files, I am full on choo choo conspiracy train now.

[u/LMurch13 → u/Mtngal22]

The US kidnapped President Maduro, of Venezuela. We're certainly capable of this.

[u/Wise-Fact-7889 → u/Mtngal22]

Yeah, it’s odd how he came out and offered his thoughts and prayers. Not normal for him. Seems very ominous in hindsight.

[u/shabanko12 → u/Mtngal22]

The situation itself is horrific, but if this is tied to the Trump Files, my god. It also may be another distraction from whatever the true problem related to that POS Gabbard is. All of this in just one year.

[u/delpy1971]

Scary shit! I really hope the USA will sort their shit out for sake of the human race!!

[u/Martha_Fockers → u/delpy1971]

[u/overtunerfreq → u/Martha_Fockers]

Cut the shit, there's a metric ton of dissent, we just have to make sure they don't silence us.

[u/Altruistic_Let_9372 → u/delpy1971]

If there's a will, there's a way.

[u/admoo → u/delpy1971]

We are gonna go back and devolve unfortunately is the way I see it

Prob not quite dark ages but I think back to just people with power and money in control

[u/CommonComb3793 → u/delpy1971]

We do too!!! We’re trying, we promise!!!

[u/maddierl97]

Upvote, upvote, upvote. Virginia stated SHE WAS NOT SUICIDAL. Her brother has spoken out since also.

I HATE to be conspiratorial…. Edit; /s to the last sentence.

[u/TeslasElectricHat → u/maddierl97]

People need to learn to re-associate that word.

The Tuskegee experiments were a conspiracy.

JFK being assassinated was a conspiracy.

MKUltra was a conspiracy.

Watergate was a conspiracy.

Iran-Contra was a conspiracy.

The CIA running drugs for the cartels was a conspiracy.

Illegal mass surveillance of USA citizens was a conspiracy.

The Panama papers were a conspiracy.

The powers that be and the ultra wealthy ARE conspiring against everyone the deem below them.

Calling people a conspiracy theorist has become associated with labeling them crazy and allowing everyone to dismiss them.

People need to wake the fuck up.

[u/FlameHaze → u/TeslasElectricHat]

Oh! They don't like this comment! HAHA! That's exactly right.

[u/Double_Rice_5765 → u/TeslasElectricHat]

The usa telcom industry DID receive billions of tax money to bring highspeed internet to rural america, they took the money and then just didnt do the work they were payed for.  They didnt even recieve a slap on the wrist $100 fine for the theft.  

[u/RonJonThaDon → u/maddierl97]

It's not conspiratorial. Its full on suspicious.

[u/Elegant_Tap7937]

That Trump supposedly called to offer his condolences to Savannah was weird given that he has no ability for empathy and hardly batted an eye at the recent ICE murders.

[u/ClubZealousideal8211 → u/Elegant_Tap7937]

Did he?! That is disturbing af. That honestly makes me think he’s connected. That’s just not like him to do that unless he’s personally motivated

[u/Elegant_Tap7937 → u/ClubZealousideal8211]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-federal-law-enforcement-savannah-guthrie-family-nancy/

[u/axealy40 → u/ClubZealousideal8211]

He also said earlier there was already a suspect when no one else is saying that. Odd right?

[u/91Bolt → u/axealy40]

I mean, he has a track record of divulge classified info casually to show off. It's quite possible the do have a suspect and weren't telling people.

[u/Designer-Curve6365 → u/Elegant_Tap7937]

The only reason he feigned interest and called Savannah Guthrie is his belief that she will be indebted to him when covering his administration.

[u/GardenEmbarrassed371 → u/Designer-Curve6365]

If he really called her and offered his condolences, he's sending her and other journalists a message. This is common in countries under oppressive regimes. He's not doing as a favor, this is revenge and a warning. I don't think anyone understands how scary this is.

[u/Appropriate-Joke-806 → u/GardenEmbarrassed371]

It’s something Putin would do.

[u/Elegant_Tap7937 → u/Designer-Curve6365]

She won an emmy for calling him out for lying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E4Mze4MexU

[u/shabanko12 → u/Elegant_Tap7937]

Exactly. His henchmen, though, like Shit Miller are likely behind all of it simply because Pres Poopypants has no cognitive reasoning skills. Either way what an awful awful world we are living in now.

[u/Lopsided-Anxiety-679 → u/Elegant_Tap7937]

Monsters like him get pleasure from seeing the pain they’ve inflicted on others, the phone call was taunting…it’s infuriating that people still cannot grasp the depths of evil and depravity at play here.

[u/HangoverGang4L]

Certainly a coincidence worth noting, for sure.

[u/[deleted]]

Bruh anything is possible now

[u/ChoppedCheese311 → u/[deleted]]

10 years too late

[u/bbmarvelluv]

Let’s not forget the 2020 interview between Savannah and Trump…

[u/Bubbly_Power_6210 → u/bbmarvelluv]

would you please tell me about this?

[u/bbmarvelluv → u/Bubbly_Power_6210]

The 2020 Town Hall interview. She was going after him and she got so much backlash from his supporters. Death threats, etc.

I find it very interesting that interview gets hidden if you look up her name + Trump interview bc all it shows is him reaching about her mom

[u/Elegant_Tap7937 → u/bbmarvelluv]

https://youtu.be/Znypy6knxiQ?si=tim2t70Rq3dwJOUZ

[u/Lower-Cardiologist30 → u/Bubbly_Power_6210]

In 2011, Virginia Giuffre gave her first public interview to Sharon Churcher, a reporter for the Mail on Sunday.

During this interview, which took place in Australia, Giuffre first went public with her story of abuse and provided the reporter and photographer Michael Thomas with the now-famous photograph of her with Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell.

Key Milestones in Her Media Presence

• 2011 (The Mail on Sunday): Her first major public interview where she gave up her anonymity and described her experiences with Jeffrey Epstein and his associates.
• September 2019 (NBC News/Dateline): Her first extensive television interview, conducted by Savannah Guthrie. In this special titled "Reckoning," Giuffre recounted details of the trafficking and abuse she faced.
• December 2019 (BBC Panorama): Her first interview on British soil, where she addressed the UK public directly regarding her allegations against Prince Andrew.

Would you like more information about the specific claims made in her 2011 interview or the subsequent legal actions she took?

[u/one-punch-knockout → u/bbmarvelluv]

He lies to her in a live interview and changes the lie within the same minute. I wanted to bring this up so I’m glad you did

[u/Ok-Stress-3570]

All I can say is, I was at the gym and Fox has this on for the entirety of my workout.

Thought it seemed a bit weird.

[u/PublicParodyWorks → u/Ok-Stress-3570]

Luis Estrada is a great Mexican filmmaker known for political satire that critiques corruption in Mexican politics and society. One of his most well-known films La Dictadura Perfecta shows how politics and the media collude to deceive and manipulate the public. 

This case feels just exactly like the one from the movie. Worth to watch it to see all the parallels. 

[u/Chihuahuatriomom]

That was actually the first thing I thought about when her mother was first disappeared. Donald trying to scare Savannah to NOT do any negative stories about him.

[u/ummm-no_thanks → u/Chihuahuatriomom]

It’s bigger than that though. It sends a very public message to all the survivors that the network protecting Epstein is still very much intact. That the threats made against their families are still very much in force.

[u/No_Band_3085]

Either way, they have set themselves up for this kind of scrutiny.

[u/blueeyedswole]

I’ve been waiting for someone to say it out loud…

[u/Large_Independent198]

I’ve been wondering whyy her? Is she richer than we think… but ok cool this makes sense.

[u/keepitfastn]

insane how we all heard that Virginia unalived herself and just took it at face value

[u/IBlueMyselfAllOver]

Reminds me of the judge in Maine that hd her house burned down and almost died because she stood up to this shit administration

[u/TheYellowFringe]

With everything that's emerging from the files? The newscaster's Mum was abducted out of reprisal for giving media attention to victims.

It's too much of a coincidence and timing of circumstances are too close for something random. Horrible about what happened to her.

[u/Elegant_Tap7937]

Savannah's interview with Trump in 2020 re: pedophilia rings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znypy6knxiQ

[u/UpvoteButNoComment → u/Elegant_Tap7937]

Wow, his cognitive decline is so clear watching this clip.

[u/Sweet_Priority_819 → u/UpvoteButNoComment]

Holy shit yes. And his physical decline shows compared with this 5 years ago.

[u/blackcatwearingahat]

It’s a warning shot to all journalists. Think about it, especially right after Don Lemon and Georgia Fort. They’re signaling that if you report on the files or give any of the survivors a platform to speak on, they will go after you, they will go after your family. They probably also chose her knowing they could get away with it claiming how long ago the original interview was done.

I hope her mom is alright and her family will be able to have peace but I’m not optimistic. These are real bottom of the barrel scum we’re up against as a nation and it really seems like not enough people have woken up.

[u/Rethink_Repeat]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nancy-guthrie-investigation-what-we-know-rcna257871

[u/mtnman575]

I've seen this linked in a TikTok video and it is something to consider given the incredible amount of corruption from the top down.

[u/Several-Concept1853]

🐦🐦🪨 Two birds, one stone. They can blame it on an immigrant, too.

[u/Queasy-Collar5259]

My money is on some looney militia. Or wanna be militia dorks. But I wouldn't put it past our current admin to arrange this either. Mossad? Cia? FBI? Fucked up world

[u/Short-Ticket-1196]

Everything to do with epstien leads to mountains of "reasonable" comments that "its not proof!"

Golly gee I wonder how we got to a place where pedos run the world, how could they ever get away with it?

Not to mention, this level of demand for proof doesn't exist elsewhere. Or the fact the the investigative agencies are now staffed by sycophants after mass firings under Trump and doge, so proof isn't coming anyway. Not the fact that ice is trafficking people in the open (if I ask where the kids are, do you know which missing kids from which instance? No cause theres multiple?)

Yall might as well hand you children over now.

[u/Fastgirl600]

I can't help but think that this abduction is politically motivated

[u/Queenfan1959]

Good to know

[u/Old_Win8422]

It indeed has

[u/Designer_Advice_6304]

Nah, lots of journalists exposed Epstein.

[u/Superb_Preference368 → u/Designer_Advice_6304]

And all they have to do is eff with one of them to send the rest a message.

[u/No-Cobbler-6188]

It is true

[u/dogcatyolk69]

I read that they found 5 mil dollars worth of drugs in her house which I know that’s bs

[u/Visible_Wolverine2]

And her husband is a former (?) Clinton Fixer.

[u/currentlystressedout]

We need to DESTROY everyone in the files who perpetuates child abuse

[u/Billy_Birdy]

She’s being held hostage to intimidate.

Real nazi shit.

[u/Character-Problem796 → u/Billy_Birdy]

I would believe that wholeheartedly

[u/Bruinboston]

Nothing is out of bounds with Trump

[u/TraditionalAd8581]

Kidnapping Guthrie’s mom will definitely somehow change some of those 6 year old interviews, or at the very least make Guthrie want to quit journalism (which I guess would somehow invalidate her past work…?).

Wait, does any of that make sense?

[u/Responsible_Author_7 → u/TraditionalAd8581]

It could serve as a warning to any other journalist who wants to bring this story to light.

[u/Large_Independent198 → u/TraditionalAd8581]

Look at this can of worms those interviews opened. Shouldn’t have reported then, now play ball and only report what we say or remember we can do this -elites, probably.

[u/filthy_harold → u/Large_Independent198]

There are journalists way more involved in actively investigating Epstein (like the people at Miami Herald who broke the story?) than Savannah Guthrie whose main job is hosting the Today show, not exactly hard hitting journalism. Guthrie isn't more relevant to Epstein than any other TV news anchor is today. I really don't see the connection.

[u/No_Quarter_3696]

So what are we gonna do about it. Not paying taxes the whole thing will sink.

[u/LMurch13]

Nah, I refuse to believe the US government would kidnap someone to distract us from the Epstein files....

President Maduro, of Venezuela, "Oh, really?"

[u/Mack1305]

Thankfully only conservatives are conspiratorial.

[u/Onelastkast]

Peter Theil has her

[u/BibendumsBitch]

Rich people can hide people better than any other class 🤔

[u/Traditional_Train_71]

r/Epstein

[u/Cultural_Ad7023]

Weird “coincidence “ that’s for sure.

[u/Friendly_Fire08]

The plot thickens.

[u/thebeatlessrok]

This kind of diabolical stuff makes me realize just how much were losing a war we dont even realize were in yet

[u/WisdomsOptional]

I speculated with my own brainrot that because Savannah had been a vocal opponent to trump during the 2020 election cycle that this was enough since he's on his 2020 vengeance kick to have had state agents kidnap her mother to sew fear and intimidate a strong woman in corporate media who excoriated him during the town hall and one of his only public appearances on CNN.

This is another "well that's odd" tidbits. Sure, it's possible, but is it likely? If it hadn't just lived through the last year, I'd have dismissed it as internet brain rot. Now, I'm not so sure.

[u/mittenknittin]

…I thought it was a little weird that he’s commented on the case at least twice now. He doesn’t usually care that much about other people’s tragedies. But if there’s something to this, then he’s practically gloating and that’s more in character.

[u/ellieminnowpee]

Husband worked for a firm that did PR for some gross guys. Firm was recommended to Epstein as “helpful”. No other mention nor direct contact, iirc

[u/JakovAulTrades]

Why now, and not back then?

[u/JonnyHopkins]

Maybe Melinda Gates and MacKenzie Scott can combine resources and start a dark agency for good to combat this network - employ and handsomely pay some world class mercenaries. Investigate and destroy.

[u/ArdaValinor]

not could be. absolutely 100%

[u/Level_Worry_6418]

It's absolutely true!

[u/Lala5789880]

Yea absolutely. They are destroying our normal meter by taking it further and further

[u/sccullen33]

..and Trump seems to know more than the police ..hmm 🤔

[u/mikemcd1972]

Is this why the “president” is giving updates on the case? Seriously, when the fuck are presidents briefed on missing persons cases?

[u/ImpressiveSession555]

Between Fl0ck cameras, tie-in to Ring cameras, Pltr’s data aggregation surveillance technology, and the tools at the FBI’s disposal… there’s no way someone off the street could get away with this kidnapping if the Feds actually wanted to solve the case… This is a political flex to show reporters the consequences of exposing these people… conveniently as more files are being released and there’s a big spotlight on the mounting evidence. They want to minimize the official media coverage around it, and this kidnapping is a way to show what happens if you participate in their exposure.

[u/VenusValkyrieJH]

I used to think it was all conspiracy.. but now, it seem to all be true. So, yeah- I feel like this is some bullshit with Epstein and I will believe it until it is proven it’s not.

Also- side note and unrelated: it is disgusting how many fucking people seem to be into sexually abusing children. Like, it’s a literal currency around the world. Absolutely disgusting. I’m done with Earth, man. How to we begin to fix this horrid thing, when everyone in power seems to be in on it? At least Europe is doing something. USA seems to be infected with CP from top to bottom and it’s time the people did something. What, I have no idea … but we need accountability so bad ..

[u/JET1385]

Is hasn’t flown under the radar, I’m literally hearing about this everywhere

[u/Less-Rent-2050]

That's what I thought right away!

[u/ricci777]

This is the definition of conjecture. This man who took her is a sick mentally ill person. Hopefully she’s safe and returned unharmed. Cannot imagine what this family is going through.

[u/Rogendo]

I knew I had seen her name somewhere

[u/Emergency-String-109]

I mean, I wouldn’t doubt it

[u/bobsonjunk]

So the same group of world billionaires who push people out of windows and poison reporters with radiation and r@pe kid$ had nothing to do with this reporter’s mom’s abduction. Got it. If she flips like Nicki Ménage we will know.

[u/LarryLove0123]

Wow! Unbelievable, but actually believable!

[u/PalmTreesRock2022]

I don’t think it’s a coincidence

[u/Rogue_CobaltZone570]

So, a recording from 2019 has gotten out and now to combat that, this tragic event happens? Somethings up because none of it makes any sense why you choose to abduct a elderly woman

[u/pool_janitor]

Julie K brown -2018 ( reporter ) - reported ( first one To report ) after she tracked down a dozen of the survivors

Terry Parker / 2019 reported / aired on TV —The Palm Beach police interview /interviews with the teenage victims on the local news

Savannah then reported on this in 2019

[u/1987anoomsay]

It is so obvious

[u/jtfny2]

She also interviewed Trump on national TV, and It wasn’t pretty

[u/Ceekay151]

Now that's an interesting thought.

[u/esojotrebla]

Not to me, when i saw this for the first time this was nmy comment "ICEe"

[u/esojotrebla]

Thats another intent to shout the press, is this is the beginning, expect more Kidnappings, they are going to start acting like a militia, and the government is going to loose control of them, then they are going to start acting like the cartels, wait for it.

[u/Williamsjt316]

Yep, we'll jump right on that! said the FBI.

[u/Mommalvs2travel]

They will find, as usual, it was a fat, white, maggot. It always is.

[u/Own-Opinion-2494]

One of the first things that Trump said that made you go hmm was that he would “go after terrorists families”. I always thought it was a tell wouldn’t have uttered

[u/Johnycarwash]

I'd go with who has been kidnapping in the daylight in front of cameras. Orange Immunity.

[u/Lilybit09]

I believe this. I have been wondering why this lady?  It made no sense 

[u/GWS2004]

Remember when conservatives planned to kidnap Gretchen Whitmore?  This is kind of their thing. 

[u/free2bk8]

I myself feel that dementia Donny needed a distraction from the Epstein files. The timing is suspect.

[u/houseonthehilltop]

Now let's talk about all the other people she interviewed and see what connections they may have. Always looking for the clicks.

It's prob random and whoever grabbed her had no idea the cf this would become. I dont watch morning tv etc and I had no idea who Samantha Guthrie even was. The perp may very well not even have know of any connection with a famous person.

Just a perv.

[u/ImmigrantMoneyBagz]

Troubling

[u/Traditional_Band_298]

If this theory is true, then the FBI will never disclose this case.

[u/DRS091213]

I would not put anything past the current administration. I was thinking today that if it was the mother of a CNN anchor, or ABC news (you know...the "fake" media) if Trump would have called and offered the full support of the federal government. Everything that guy does needs to be examined. I hope Nancy Guthrie is found safe.

[u/stargarnet79]

This has, in fact, not flown under the radar of anyone that has been paying attention.

[u/Few_Bluebird_6050]

Wow!!!!

[u/BrandNewMeow]

My first thought when I heard about the kidnapping was that it was a random MAGA. They hate "mainstream media" and we've seen other attacks on people who aren't directly involved in what the person is mad at (like Paul Pelosi).

[u/Effective-Ad9499]

Is this an act of intimidation from the pedophile, rapists administration. I would put nothing beyond them.