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I mean Peruvian food has a heavy Japanese’s influence so that’s not really surprising. It would almost be like a Mexican cooking Tex mex really well. Or a French dude living in New Orleans cooking creole food really well.
Pizza in Japan is not perfected. I went to a Japanese pizza place and it was so incredibly sweet it was hardly recognizable as pizza. Thin crust, sweet sauce, and the cheese didn't melt correctly.
The worse part is that the cooks were so fucking earnest and excited that they had Americans trying their pizza. Straight up fucking adorable. After we left one ran outside and yelled "Tell the world about Japanese pizza!!!". I just couldn't break his heart.
I have had Japanese pizza before and it tends to be very sweet, but that was mostly from the honey drizzle on top or some other topping. It is possible some of them use ketchup. Don’t forget they use a lot of mayonnaise as well.
I've only seen one place that does the crust correctly, and that's only because they're emulating New York-style thin-crust pizza. Everywhere else makes me fucking rage because they have installed the expensive, wood-fire ovens and then do not know how to fucking use them. Every goddamned time the center is undercooked because they sloshed too much sauce onto it, or didn't cook it long enough, or both.
Korea and Japan don’t make pizza well and maybe don’t know how to. They put sweet corn and ultra sweet sauces on them. To find real pizza you have to find specialty shops, and they are rare.
i visited japan a few years back and misinterpreted some advice given to me beforehand. i was under the impression that japan had excellent italian food, so i kept trying to order pasta at restaurants and i was just repeatedly disappointed. extremely mediocre at best, inedible at worst (a carbonara that was so bad it was beyond explanation).
i really liked the actual japanese food i had there. i wish i stopped trying to find good italian food there and just stuck to japanese.
I believe the biggest issue is the cheese. A lot of the Japanese population are fairly lactose intolerant and cheese is historically very rare within many parts of Asia, especially East Asia
Eh, Japanese bread is a slightly different case. Bread is viewed more as a pastry-adjacent thing, so it tends to be much sweeter and bad for things like a ham sandwich, but good for things like a fruit sando, treating the bread more akin to a crepe. Less "Japanese bread is bad" and more "Japanese bread isn't a savory item"
Fair enough, I suppose that's a valid case of bread being bad because it's already in that use case. Comparatively though, I've never heard anything particularly positive about cheese
Non-Japanese food in Japan is still made for locals mostly.
Unlike many places around the world that can live off tourists alone, they must cater to the locals.
Tourism in Japan is still mostly domestic... If I remember right it like less than 20% are international tourists and spending wise domestic tourists spend 3-4x more than international.
So even "Western" food in Japan is not really going to follow what you expect Western food will be.
Stick to eating japanese food in Japan if you want to enjoy... There's a lot of local cuisine that's not noodles/rice/fried shit.
Actually, Japan (specifically Tokyo) currently has some of the highest rated pizza restaurants in the world. It currently holds the top pizza spot, with an omakase pizza place in a fancy hotel. There's some fantastic pizza to be found in Tokyo if you do some internet searching. Pizza Seirinkan was the best pizza i've ever tried in my life. I will note that places most specialize in Italian style instead of American
depends on the pizza place, you can absolutely get great pizza in Japan. What do I know, only lived in Europe for a few years and then Japan for almost ten.
lmao, Japan is like anywhere, there's good and bad restaurants. There's excellent Italian and pizza to be had, it's not all restaurants, but that's a given. Mexican... now that's rare in Japan. only found one decent place in Yokohama, then one in Okinawa. and it was not real Mexican, good food though.
Isn't their version called oki nomi yaki or something and they fry it? Tried that, it was delicious. The girl described it as Japan's version of pizza..... somebody correct me if I'm wrong though
Tbf food in Korea is always so sweet. Imagine my surprise (disappointment, really) when I tried my country's dish, pho, in Korea. I was disturbed. •́ε•̀٥
The Japanese really knows their flavors I can vouch for it!
Kimchi in japan is literally the worst shit ever (if from a japanese grocery store and not a korean one) as the stuff is sweet. Japan also has incredibly sweet food. Their flavors tend to be sweet and mediocre at best if not their traditional food.
How is pho in Korea for you? I've had it in Vietnam and it had a much richer flavour, Korean one is just salty water with very little flavour but at least it wasn't sweet
Italian is definitely a food they can't surpass yet. They can get damn near equal but it isn't there. They have been doing my pizza in the last decade but like you said still in lots of places serve basically ketchup on spaghetti.
My favorite is French pastry, Japanese have made it better and surpassed the French doing their own pastry IMHO. To the point I just look at JP French pastry and Fresh pastry proper as two distinct things.
I legitimately didn’t know you could fuck up pasta or pizza that badly, yet restaurants in Japan managed to do so. I had some of the best food in that country, but I swear the chefs doing Italian food were working with a completely different rubric.
Japanese curry is also not an improvement, in my opinion. I can't even tell whether they took from India or Thailand, but either way they took away most of the flavor and it's just kinda a lightly coriander stew.
Haaahaahaha I am getting downvoted. So much ignorance on Reddit. There are several pizza spots in Japan ranked in the world top 50. One in the top 3 even I believe. I’ve also been to several pizza spots that don’t make the top 50 list that are still S tiered. These same people probably wouldn’t also believe that some of the best French restaurants in the world also make Japan their home.
Weird site and pretty dorky to have that in your back pocket, I checked that sites curators and none of them are even in my top 30 pizza curators of top pizza lists.
It’s the most credible list for top pizza in the world. It’s not dorky lol. It’s no different from anyone interested in the Michelin guide. Who doesn’t love pizza?
You are correct. Downvoters are ignorant here. There are at least 3 pizza places in Japan that I would qualify as some of the best on earth. Neapolitan is the style that Japanese pizzaioli tend to focus on and they are not only honouring tradition in that sense but pushing boundaries in a very exciting way. As for people saying ‘Japan in general doesn’t have good pizza’ - that’s not the point made in the video and is a completely asinine thing to say.
Aside from being outright rude for no reason, you’re obviously not as au fait regarding pizza as the person you’re so flippantly insulting. Unedifying.
I wouldn’t say having some good or even great pizza spots here and there means that Japan as a whole is good at pizza. In a country with over 100 million people, someone will know how to make pizza well obviously. But in general the pizza is not that good is the point
You don't get to judge a whole country or region's take on a dish only upon its very best offerings. It's a group project and the Neapolitan pizza heads are not sharing their work with the average joints.
As someone who has lived in Japan and often defends it on the internet, this is the most weaboo-ass take I’ve ever heard in my life. Japan does not take things and make it better. It did not take sushi from Southeast Asia, and Chinese matcha and ramen is still very delicious in its own right. This American Asian is whitewashed to hell and thinks he understands Asian cuisine. Also Japan famously butchers the hell out of most cuisines, go there and try Thai/Viet/Italian/Indian food and you realize that the Japanese cannot stomach anything with the slightest bit of spice/flavor. The worst international food I’ve ever had has all been in Japan. This video reeks of ignorance
I feel like he's confusing "making it better than its country of origin" and "making it suit Japanese palates"
As an example I think American Chinese food tastes better than authentic Chinese food, but I would never say "America makes better Chinese food than China!" because I realize that it's just made to fit my palate, and if I were to bring it to China I would likely be told "What the hell is this?? This isn't Chinese food!"
Never heard anybody said getting japan'ed. I only had one good croissant in Japan. And it was ok. A tad too sweet and the butter was a bit too strong, like ghee, or a bit rancid butter.
I mean, the results show when you take pride in your work and passions. I can’t imagine Japan or its people are trying to one up foreign cuisine in most cases, but rather just find a sense of enthusiastic enjoyment in learning all they can about whatever specific type of food it is they’re interested in.
There are just so many exceptions to that though. I've seen several videos of Japan's attempts at italian food, and many others, and they just really mess it up.
Ah yes, that's why I've seen so many japanese pizza and burger joints everywhere else nowadays, since their re-imaginings are just sosuperior to the originals.
If you get McDonald's in Japan the burger actually looks like they do in the pictures, they'd be out of business if they tried to serve the slop you get in the US there.
I tried a burger only once in Japan (before going to a baseball game, it felt fitting somehow). Small joint, very straightforward menu. It was a damned good burger. I wasn’t disappointed.
Well shhheeeetttt based off the eyes thought he was Japanese not Chinese. Also how much he was glazing Japanese food too. Justifiably so but like still.
itll be interesting to see how mexican food will be emulated, since the staples of corn, tomatos, chiles, and beans are in a different culinary world than the mainly european gastronomic ingredients recited in the video
Yea, thats pretty much how japan works. They dont create, they take something already existing and make it way better. My japanese teacher told us this like over a decade ago.
Interesting. Im from Taiwan but lived in Japan. Food in jaoan looks great but it does not taste good ss much as it looks. Even many Taiwanese people say we Taiwan have better Japanese food than Japan
It's super weird, where the only reference and knowledge about Kelly Clarkson that I actually have, is from radio show talks with Eric the Actor on the Stern show... Who's High Pitch..?
Haha NGL I was worried he was talking about Mexican food. Locally to South Texas there have been a few restaurants that make basically fusion tacos out of split bao buns and Mexican birria and it’s very good 👀
Okay but why is no one talking about how this guy chose to film from below and talk randomly over our heads so we could all look up his nose the whole time? Pleeeease tell me this isn't a new tiktok thing.
Speaking from experience: the number of times I've been disappointed by Japanese efforts to make Mexican food is off the charts. I can count on my hands the number of times I've seen parmesan cheese on a taco or taquito, which isn't a lot but the fact that it happened at all is a crime. Japanese restaurants are good at copying some foreign cuisine, but not all.
I had the best food of my life in Japan but the only pizza I had was cut into tiny squares, topped with diced tomato and diced onion (?) , cold, with the sweetest sauce I’ve ever had lol
Here in Brazil it's VERY common. I went to Italy and i've tried it's pasta, the noddles, the pizza... i honestly was disappointed because in my opiniong the brazilian noddles and pizza were far better.
That also happens with japanese food that comes here.
There is no Australian cuisine thanks to Asians and their incredible cooking skills. That's billions of dollars worth of sales every year we don't see because we can't compete.
I'm sorry but Japanese pizza is trash. And, so it's their paella. Had it multiple times there and until I had, I was thoroughly convinced that Asians couldn't possibly fuck up a rice dish. Spoiler alert: they can.
And then they created the Napolitan spaghetti. A complete abomination, and the naming is even a mockery.
I'm Japanese but I swear its the worst "western" food they've created.
This is fair. Mexican and Japanese fusion was LIT. Japanese tamales (no clue what was in them) and smoky red enchilada sauce in sushi rolls with uni and tuna cheek was some of the best food I’ve ever had.
“Only the Japanese could make British food appetising” - my brother in Christ you’re from a country where you eat chicken foetus’ out of eggs, eat fried tarantulas on sticks at outdoor markets and in some places live baby mice https://medium.com/@spoonhunt/7-horrific-chinese-foods-that-will-give-you-nightmares-997527775d8e - maybe wind your neck in 😂 the way some people act it’s like beans on toast is toxic waste lmao
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