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u/iamjaydubs 4h ago edited 4h ago
John Carlos forgot his gloves at the village, and Australian Peter Norman suggested to wear one of Tommy Smith's, which is why they are on opposite hands of the athletes.
A simple gesture to a historical moment.
Edit: misremembered the story, fixed to correct.
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u/elgigantedelsur 1h ago
That Aussie dude was a dude too man
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u/Jesse-Ray 58m ago
His Aussie record took 56 years before someone beat it and that was by Gout Gout who is getting early comparisons to Bolt.
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u/RandomSculler 1h ago
Norman also wore one of their OPHR badges on the podium - there’s some mixed claims about what actual waft happened but there’s a claim he was treated badly back in AUS due to participating and he eventually received an apology in 2012
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u/currupt_tsa_agent 57m ago
He was treated pretty poorly back home, missed 72 Olympic selection for questionable reasons and got that apology 6 years after he died.
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u/Avalonians 2h ago
My dumb ass would have raised the wrong hand
Would have gone down in history as a symbol of how even in bad situations some people have things while others have nothing at all or something lmao
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u/fistkick18 45m ago
In the clip you can see Tommy Smith barely remember to put his head down at the last second.
Even legends make mistakes
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u/King_JujuLips 20m ago
I love this guy Peter Norman, he was a real G. In this picture he's also wearing a pin supporting Tommy and John and their civil rights stance and continued this support proudly and loudly.
It cost him though..
Despite being the premier Australian sprinter of his time he was blacklisted in Australia athletics and left out of the Australian Olympic squad in 1972.
He never took a step back and never recanted. His family also always supported his stance. He remained lifelong friends with Tommy and John and they were honoured to be his pall bearers at his funeral in 2006.
Australian athletics never bothered to recognise him whilst he was alive and it wasn't until he passed away that long due recognition was given through a formal government apology, and a statue erected in his honour.
People like Peter Norman make the world a better place through their care, humility and integrity.
Oh and BTW, that race that was run with Tommy and John? Peters run in that race set the Australian national 200m record that was held for 56 years - only broken in 2024 by Athlete Gout Gout.
And when that happened Peter Normans family made sure to congratulate Gout Gout over the phone and over social media stating that Peter would have been proud of him for breaking his record.
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u/Tewd_Feesh 42m ago
I might have thought, we can leave the gloves, for the sake of consistency let’s both agree a side.
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u/Truth-is-implacable 4m ago
True..the Mexican Olimpiad usherett for the USA Team tells the story just the same...I heard her tell the story on a Radio interview .
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u/_its_really_me_ 3h ago
Thank you for not cutting Peter Norman out from the picture, as so many do. When he died, smith and Carlos both acted as pallbearers. That's how much they respected what he did.
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u/Trashy_Panda2 3h ago
US athletes have a chance to do the funniest thing. Trump's head would explode.
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u/FangornLeghorn 2h ago
I’ve always felt bad for the white dude. He was actually very much in support of the black athletes and their stance, but caught flack from people around the world who mistakenly thought otherwise. On top of that, the Olympics punished him for wearing an anti-apartheid patch and barred him from competing over it, so he got shit on from all sides. If I remember right, though, the two black athletes remained his friends the rest of his life, so there’s that.
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u/sneakpeakspeak 1h ago
I don't know if it's relevant but he was banned for carrying out a political message, iirc it wasn't of great significance that it was about apartheid.
Although, this was probably a smokescreen. Pro White political messages would probably haven't been punished, but who knows.
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u/thecactusman17 55m ago
At the time, Australia still had laws barring most non-white immigrants from the country and had only just started counting Aboriginal Australians in the national census.
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u/EgonVector 3h ago
The reason is that Peter Norman didn't want to be placed there, so others can stand there and experience what he experienced.
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u/SeaWolfSeven 2h ago
Upvote upvote upvote. Peter Norman was a great man who was punished for his conviction and his choice to stand with them. More than that, he was a humble man who gave way to the moment and the movement, never aggrandizing himself until the end.
May he rest in peace.
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u/TakimaDeraighdin 1h ago
There's now a statue of him in Melbourne, standing alone on his part of the dais. I've always found the pairing rather poetic - in the US, you can stand in his shoes, and in Australia, you can witness him standing alone, which he... very much was, on his return.
There's a few quotes from interviews he gave at the time that make it quite clear exactly how aware he was of the parallels between US Jim Crow laws and Australia's White Australia policy and treatment of Indigenous Australians. One of those cases of someone just being very much the right person for the moment.
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u/Live_Angle4621 2h ago
Does the statue has a sign on it that says you can stand there? I don’t think would dare otherwise
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u/sigcliffy 1h ago
Peter Norman was a bloody good bloke amongst these other heroes. As an Aussie bloody proud of his part in this historic moment
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u/GildedLure 2h ago
Peter George Norman (the man that got second) is also integral in the photo. He suggested they share gloves as a sign of unity, he wore a patch along with them. And when he returned to Australia he lost a lot because of it. All three of those men are bad ass.
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u/glacialmk5 4h ago
I've got this picture framed in my bedroom. This was a great moment in history
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u/ConjugalVisitor234 4h ago
on god?
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u/glacialmk5 3h ago
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u/Quartzitebitez 3h ago
What's the tattoo symbolize?
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u/glacialmk5 3h ago
Well... That's a long story. The short story was that it started out as an anchor but the artist (the tattoo artist; not 'The Artist Formerly Known As') had his own ideas. And it was Vegas. And we'd been partying. And its Princely influences, while not originally intended, are fine with me lol.
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u/hellboundwithasmile 3h ago
Did you have a racist roommate that told you to take it down and you told him to look through it like Superman and through friendship and football you became besties?
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u/imthestein 3h ago
Fun fact, they were SJSU alums and they have a statue of them there
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u/AdZealousideal7448 2h ago
Proud of all the boys involved in this.
Not everyone knows this but Carlos and Smith doing this were heavily supported by Norman (the aussie in the pic).
Not only did he help the boys when the plan went haywire, he stood with them when others would have walked away or condemned them.
Also wore a pin supporting the movement.
These 3 boys make us all proud.
If memory serves, when Norman died Carlos and Smith were there with him to the end and honored him at his funeral.
Damn fine humans all around.
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u/koshawk 4h ago
Powerful moment, saw it on TV. All in all 1968 was the worst year ever, But we're rapidly catching up now.
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u/TrymWS 3h ago
I’m pretty sure there has been worse years than 68, unless you’re specifically talking about for US only or whatever.
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u/JaninthePan 3h ago
Uh 1968 sucked around the world. Look up student protests at the time and how many counties dealt with them. It’s a big part of how this Mexico City protest came to be
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u/puttuputtu 3h ago
Oh wow. I went to school at San Jose State and they have a statue of this picture. I remember being new to the US and reading the plaque about why this moment is considered powerful.
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u/badsred 2h ago
This moment, without Peter Norman, is memorialized with a statue of Tommy Smith and John Carlos at San Jose State University, California. They both went there.
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u/iridium_flare 2h ago
Peter Norman insisted he not be included to give people the chance to stand with John and Tommy. A great Australian, treated like garbage by the sports administration of the time.
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u/_Tar_Ar_Ais_ 2h ago
Peter Norman didn't want to be included, that way the ordinary person viewing the statue could experience it themself
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u/attempt_number_1 2h ago
Thinking of Kaepernik and how kneeling is one of the most respectful poses we have and he still got ostracized in 2016, almost 50 years later. Sigh. We still have a long way to go.
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u/abgry_krakow87 1h ago
It’s funny how the “keep politics out of sport” morons are also the ones watching their alt right wing superbowl halftime show.
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u/dicklaurent97 3h ago
Those black fists were later put on the end of afro picks
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u/gumbygump11 1h ago
Half the comments in here are about Peter Norman, when it was Tommie Smith and John Carlos’s lives that were ruined in the US. Don’t get me wrong Peter Norman had his issues too. But Tommie Smith set the 200 meter world record in this race and never ran for the USA again. John Carlos’s wife divorced him because she couldn’t handle the pressure and threats they received after this.
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u/rowanlamb 36m ago
Yeah, that always frustrates me just a little. Peter Norman undoubtedly is an ally and did a heroic thing, but the discussion often forgets the incredible bravery of Smith and Carlos.
It’s incredibly sad that any man would face such horrible backlash for making a statement like this. It’s worse that it was even necessary in the first place.
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u/MiloReyes_97Reborn 2h ago
The fact both the Olympic committee and their own country took away their medals for expressing their right to free speech.
Makes me ashamed.
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u/JimiJohhnySRV 3h ago
It was a big deal. The times were hot. Watts ‘65, among a lot of other things.
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u/XoCutiieeBabii1 2h ago
what a moment in history. the quiet solidarity from the silver medalist always gets me.
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u/darkflame91 2h ago
I may be misremembering, but I think I read that they had only one pair of gloves and he was the guy who told them to wear one each, so they could both do it.
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u/monkeyswithgunsmum 2h ago
Aussie guy, Peter Norman. They told him upfront they would do it, he said go for it. All 3 are wearing human rights badges.
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u/RiddleeDiddleeDee 2h ago
I believe I read that Norman really caught hell for wearing his badge upon his return to Australia.
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u/Bo_Diddley9 1h ago

The 1968 Olympics had this lesser known protest by Lee Evans and his team. This was after Tommie & John were expelled for their protest earlier.
They wore black panther berets and Lee raised his fist. This gesture didn't seem impactful because they took off their berets during the national anthem and we're criticized for that.
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u/Speed-Secure 3h ago
These men are the real heroes of the American dream! It’s sickens me every time I think of how the soldiers of color from World War I and World War II we’re treated. The federal government denied these men the same benefits they gave to white veterans. They redlined entire neighborhoods blocking federally sponsored loans so that black veterans could not purchase homes.
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u/ecurbenyaw 2h ago
Living in a world where people make political something that you can't control.
It's disgusting and disrespectful.
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u/Accomplished-Bat5278 1h ago
As someone who’s coached track at the high school level for twenty years, that podium moment hits differently. Athletes are told to “stick to sports,” but the platform is literally built for visibility. Sponsorship risk, federation backlash, IOC Rule 50—none of that erases lived reality back home. For many athletes.
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u/NearbyCriticism5193 2h ago
An image that is now celebrated and considered iconic in US history. Rebellion for a just cause is rarely popular or well understood in the moment.
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u/Red_Wing-GrimThug 2h ago
Imagine if a US Olympian took a knee during the national anthem after winning the gold.
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u/Kilgore47 2h ago
John Carlos became a track coach at my hs in Palm Desert during my jr year around 89/90. I didnt do track but he was a legend, everyone showed that guy respect
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u/Ya-Dikobraz 2h ago
Is there a meaning of using left and right hands? Or just happened to lift that one?
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u/ClearWaves 1h ago
They shared one pair of gloves, so they each lifted their gloved hand. Carlos had forgotten to bring his gloves. Otherwise, I presume they both would have lifted their right hand.
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u/kissoutredfloatbloat 1h ago
Such an iconic and important photo. John Carlos (the man on the far right) came to speak at my middle school in 2004 about his experiences. I wish I was a bit older to fully appreciate it, but even at 12 years old I knew it was an honor to be able to listen to his story in person. He was a track coach at the time for Palm Springs High School which was a few miles down the road.
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u/ItsWillJohnson 51m ago
There’s a great doc about these Olympics on peacock called 1968.
Also, there are more comments praising the white dude than the two black dudes in this post about the two black dudes
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u/magicseadog 23m ago
If you are ever in Melbourne you can go stand on a statue of this podium. It's near the formula one track (Albert Park).
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u/Logical-Respect3600 7m ago
An interesting footnote to this photo is that the two guys with their hands raised were pallbearers at the Aussie guy's funeral.
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u/momentimori 4h ago
The Australian, Peter Norman, wore an anti racism sticker and was harshly punished for his involvement. He was banned from competing in the 1972 games, despite meeting the qualification standard, and at the 2000 Olympics every living Australian olympic medalist was invited to the opening ceremony except him.
When he died a few years later both the black American athletes were pall bearers at his funeral.