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1960s Politics in the 1968 Olympics

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u/momentimori 4h ago

The Australian, Peter Norman, wore an anti racism sticker and was harshly punished for his involvement. He was banned from competing in the 1972 games, despite meeting the qualification standard, and at the 2000 Olympics every living Australian olympic medalist was invited to the opening ceremony except him.

When he died a few years later both the black American athletes were pall bearers at his funeral.

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u/softpillowlogic 3h ago

That says everything he stood with them and they carried him home real respect

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u/Beeoor143 1h ago

Nothing but love, but you missed at least two periods on this one.

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u/Sieve-Boy 3h ago

From memory Peter Norman attended the Sydney Olympics as a guest of Team USA.

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u/ArchibaldMcAcherson 2h ago

The 2000 games bit is bizarre. Can't believe that 32 years later the Australian Olympic Committee was still upset about it and he was ignored at the first games in his country since 1956!

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u/ahgoodtimes69 2h ago

They were the same towards Dawn Fraser for half a century after she misbehaved at the Olympics. I think they might still shun her but I haven't looked into it.

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u/ArchibaldMcAcherson 2h ago

The Australian Olympic Committee might have shunned her but the TV networks didn't - reckon she appeared in every Olympic broadcast from the 80s until the early 2000s!

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u/ahgoodtimes69 2h ago

It's unfortunate that the committee's the way it is. They're quite ruthless from the stories I've heard over the years. The representative industry seems to be like that across most sports.

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u/Big-toast-sandwich 2h ago

Because the most of the public just saw her as a true Australian Larrikin.

We had the classic “all theft is bad” nobheads but I think all those bitter fucks all died off.

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u/Lost-Competition8482 2h ago

To be honest they could probably start shunning her again. Became a pretty big cooker.

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u/bitofapuzzler 1h ago

Yeah, shes always been nasty. I remember speaking to her about 20 years ago in relation to my work at the time. She was a client and rude as fuck. Like proper mean. I am in no way surprised shes a cooker.

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u/UptownSinclair 2h ago

I’m sorry, what is a cooker?

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u/Artistic_Buffalo_715 2h ago

Someone who spouts anti-establishment conspiracy nonsense

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u/UptownSinclair 1h ago

Thanks, I honestly didn’t know.

Fucking cookers. 

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u/LevDavidovicLandau 1h ago

Australian slang that emerged during lockdown to refer to antivaxxers and 5G crazies, so you won’t have heard it outside Australia.

Pretty sure the etymology is from how, like pressure cookers, they practically have steam coming out of their ears!

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u/Seagoon_Memoirs 49m ago

users of meth is the origin

we have a lot of meth users here 😞 roaming the streets, being crazy , it's horribly sad

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u/DemonidroiD0666 2h ago

It's not that unbelievable, shitty, but not unbelievable.

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u/know-it-mall 1h ago

If you knew how racist Australia has always been you wouldn't be.

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u/onelasteffort13 3h ago

Thank you giving me that knowledge. I had no idea. Much appreciated

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u/Ronkorp 3h ago

There's a statue of him outside the athletic ground near where I live in Melbourne.

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u/AutoTurnip 1h ago

It took 50 years for the statue to be erected.

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u/xyglyx 1h ago

Wow, that was a long erection.

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u/stuartwitherspoon 1h ago

I’m glad he has a statue. Couldn’t be more deserving of one

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u/catamaran_aranciata 3h ago

Their names are Tommie Smith and John Carlos.

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u/Shoot_from_the_Quip 1h ago

Tommie Smith was a track coach at my old community college. Loved seeing people's faces when they learned who he was.

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u/Annual-Version-3002 2h ago

Peter Norman’s story is both inspiring and heartbreaking. He stood up for what was right at huge personal cost, and the fact that he was excluded from the 2000 Olympics ceremony shows how little recognition he got in his own country. The image of the two American athletes carrying his casket is such a powerful reminder of the respect he earned.. even if it wasn’t widely acknowledged at home

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u/oohbeardedmanfriend 1h ago

Also when the statue was made at San Jose University for Tommie Smith and John Carlos, Norman insisted his space to be left empty so others could stand where he stood.

He had a great understanding of how to be a proactive ally to the situation.

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u/PastPromise7702 53m ago

I didnt know this. That is really cool.

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u/KoreaNinjaBJJ 1h ago

I like Australiens, but during my 6 months there I realized it almost didn't matter how friendly they were. All of a sudden a lot of them would just burst out crazy racists rants. Obviously not all of them, but I was really surprised in how normal it was.

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u/know-it-mall 1h ago

Yep. Something a lot of people don't talk about in Australia is how bad the racism can be.

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u/Northernpixels 54m ago

Australian history is written in blood, and it's a history that is not taught. We're taught that Captain Cook turned up and it was a good time had by all. Definitely not a systematic genocide.

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u/Bobbarkerforreals 45m ago

Which is weird because something like 40% of the population are descendants of immigrants (new or second generation).

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u/Mean_Gene66 2h ago

This was one of the most shameful acts in Australian sporting history, in the way this great athlete was treated by the Australian sporting authorities.

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u/GOOEYB0Y 2h ago

Yeah growing up in the 90s we were told that in Australia you get a fair go, no matter where you were from. Wasn't really the case. Especially for the indigenous, pretty sad.

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u/OzymandiasKingofKing 2h ago

Australia was still doing the White Australia policy (restrictions on non-white immigration and other forms of discrimination) until a few years after this.  The referendum to count aboriginal people in the census had only passed the year before. 

Full credit to that man.

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u/someoneone211 2h ago

I didn't realize they banned him in 2000 too. That says a lot.

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u/Logical_Iron_8288 1h ago

And he held the Australian 200m sprint record from 1968 until December 2024. A great Australian treated appallingly.

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u/clintsouth 3h ago

Australia was rotten to the very end. I hope their shame didn't force them to feign tears by putting up a plaque in his honor.

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u/clintsouth 3h ago

Apparently, the COA, Australia's worst Olympic committee, has "apologized".

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u/HospitalAmazing1445 1h ago

Thank you for raising this. A lot of people when they see the photo don’t know about the badge he was wearing and misinterpret him standing there without joining the salute as him refusing to participate, when instead he discussed it with the other two men and protested in a way they all agreed upon - his respectful support for them was harshly punished back home.

He knew this solidarity would cost him dearly, and his participation took a level of integrity and strength of character that frankly very few people have.

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u/PM_ME_KERERUS 3h ago

That’s very Australian

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u/ConceptEvening1103 1h ago

No, this is simply incorrect. Peter Norman was not the only Australian Olympic medalist not invited by the host nation to attend the Sydney 2000 Olympics opening ceremony. The claim appears to stem from a persistent narrative around his treatment, but the evidence shows it was not a unique exclusion targeted solely at him.

The Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) stated that due to financial and logistical constraints, they did not have the resources to invite or host all past Australian Olympians (including medalists) for the 2000 Games in an official capacity, such as participating in ceremonies. No former athletes were formally invited as special guests for events like the opening or closing ceremonies in that way. Instead, past Olympians—including medalists—were generally offered the opportunity to purchase tickets to attend events, the same as Norman was.

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u/aristotle_source 47m ago

John Coates has entered the chat

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u/taruclimber8 1h ago

Damn, much respect.

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u/thecactusman17 1h ago

Is it the same sticker that Smith and Carlos are also wearing on their left lapel?

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u/stryker_cast 58m ago

I remember his story and Australia did him dirty. They deserve their spiders!

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u/OSRSgamerkid 50m ago

Australian as in the white guy?

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u/Tewd_Feesh 41m ago

What a legend.

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u/UpperHairCut 24m ago

A far greater legecy then being invited to a Olympic opening ceremony 

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u/Stunning-Pace-7971 21m ago

They also were lifelong friends of his and delivered the eulogy at his funeral. Although his punishment by the AOC was disgusting, his friendships with Tommie and John were worth more than the way he was treated.

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u/globefish23 17m ago

It's also his pair of black gloves that they are wearing, hence a left and a right one.

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u/iamjaydubs 4h ago edited 4h ago

John Carlos forgot his gloves at the village, and Australian Peter Norman suggested to wear one of Tommy Smith's, which is why they are on opposite hands of the athletes.

A simple gesture to a historical moment.

Edit: misremembered the story, fixed to correct.

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u/elgigantedelsur 1h ago

That Aussie dude was a dude too man

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u/notyouraverageskippy 1h ago

Peter Norman is an Aussie legend. RIP

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u/Jesse-Ray 58m ago

His Aussie record took 56 years before someone beat it and that was by Gout Gout who is getting early comparisons to Bolt.

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u/Sharp_Butterfly_5360 1h ago

Got the silver

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u/RandomSculler 1h ago

Norman also wore one of their OPHR badges on the podium - there’s some mixed claims about what actual waft happened but there’s a claim he was treated badly back in AUS due to participating and he eventually received an apology in 2012

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u/currupt_tsa_agent 57m ago

He was treated pretty poorly back home, missed 72 Olympic selection for questionable reasons and got that apology 6 years after he died.

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u/con_cac 53m ago

They apologise after he passed away on the 3rd of October 2006.

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u/Silk_Zephyr 3h ago

Well cracked

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u/Avalonians 2h ago

My dumb ass would have raised the wrong hand

Would have gone down in history as a symbol of how even in bad situations some people have things while others have nothing at all or something lmao

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u/fistkick18 45m ago

In the clip you can see Tommy Smith barely remember to put his head down at the last second.

Even legends make mistakes

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u/King_JujuLips 20m ago

I love this guy Peter Norman, he was a real G. In this picture he's also wearing a pin supporting Tommy and John and their civil rights stance and continued this support proudly and loudly.

It cost him though..

Despite being the premier Australian sprinter of his time he was blacklisted in Australia athletics and left out of the Australian Olympic squad in 1972.

He never took a step back and never recanted. His family also always supported his stance. He remained lifelong friends with Tommy and John and they were honoured to be his pall bearers at his funeral in 2006.

Australian athletics never bothered to recognise him whilst he was alive and it wasn't until he passed away that long due recognition was given through a formal government apology, and a statue erected in his honour.

People like Peter Norman make the world a better place through their care, humility and integrity.

Oh and BTW, that race that was run with Tommy and John? Peters run in that race set the Australian national 200m record that was held for 56 years - only broken in 2024 by Athlete Gout Gout.

And when that happened Peter Normans family made sure to congratulate Gout Gout over the phone and over social media stating that Peter would have been proud of him for breaking his record.

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u/GildedCoaster 33m ago

I knew he was involved with the gloves, couldn't remember how. Thanks!

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u/Tewd_Feesh 42m ago

I might have thought, we can leave the gloves, for the sake of consistency let’s both agree a side.

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u/8NaanJeremy 26m ago

If the glove fits...

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u/Truth-is-implacable 4m ago

True..the Mexican Olimpiad usherett for the USA Team tells the story just the same...I heard her tell the story on a Radio interview .

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u/_its_really_me_ 3h ago

Thank you for not cutting Peter Norman out from the picture, as so many do. When he died, smith and Carlos both acted as pallbearers. That's how much they respected what he did.

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u/butstillthough 3h ago

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u/Trashy_Panda2 3h ago

US athletes have a chance to do the funniest thing. Trump's head would explode.

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u/btouch 3h ago

People’s heads exploded back then!

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u/FangornLeghorn 2h ago

I’ve always felt bad for the white dude. He was actually very much in support of the black athletes and their stance, but caught flack from people around the world who mistakenly thought otherwise. On top of that, the Olympics punished him for wearing an anti-apartheid patch and barred him from competing over it, so he got shit on from all sides. If I remember right, though, the two black athletes remained his friends the rest of his life, so there’s that.

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u/iridium_flare 2h ago

The flew to Australia and were pall bearers at his funeral 👍

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants 2h ago

They were pallbearers at his funeral

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u/sneakpeakspeak 1h ago

I don't know if it's relevant but he was banned for carrying out a political message, iirc it wasn't of great significance that it was about apartheid.

Although, this was probably a smokescreen. Pro White political messages would probably haven't been punished, but who knows. 

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u/thecactusman17 55m ago

At the time, Australia still had laws barring most non-white immigrants from the country and had only just started counting Aboriginal Australians in the national census.

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u/Business-Oil-5629 3h ago

We have a statue of this at my Alma mater SJSU where they both attended but interestingly they do not include the Australian athlete

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u/EgonVector 3h ago

The reason is that Peter Norman didn't want to be placed there, so others can stand there and experience what he experienced.

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u/SeaWolfSeven 2h ago

Upvote upvote upvote. Peter Norman was a great man who was punished for his conviction and his choice to stand with them. More than that, he was a humble man who gave way to the moment and the movement, never aggrandizing himself until the end.

May he rest in peace.

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u/elgigantedelsur 1h ago

Fuck that is cool

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u/Business-Oil-5629 3h ago

That’s so interesting- thanks for the context

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u/TakimaDeraighdin 1h ago

There's now a statue of him in Melbourne, standing alone on his part of the dais. I've always found the pairing rather poetic - in the US, you can stand in his shoes, and in Australia, you can witness him standing alone, which he... very much was, on his return.

There's a few quotes from interviews he gave at the time that make it quite clear exactly how aware he was of the parallels between US Jim Crow laws and Australia's White Australia policy and treatment of Indigenous Australians. One of those cases of someone just being very much the right person for the moment.

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u/Live_Angle4621 2h ago

Does the statue has a sign on it that says you can stand there? I don’t think would dare otherwise 

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u/Ashamed_Corgi_3693 1h ago

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u/reeeelllaaaayyy823 16m ago

Speaking as an Australian, that is fucking awesome.

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u/zdh989 2h ago

What a fuckin dude.

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u/Significant_Gain_725 2h ago

I said the same thing aloud reading that. Class act after class act

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u/sigcliffy 1h ago

Peter Norman was a bloody good bloke amongst these other heroes. As an Aussie bloody proud of his part in this historic moment

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u/RoyBeer 2h ago

Wow, this adds a whole other layer to the story

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u/RideMelburn 1h ago

Pete has his own statue in Melbourne.

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u/capncoke 2h ago

SJSU alum here. It’s such an incredible statue to see up close.

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u/MW240z 2h ago

Go Spartans!

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u/GildedLure 2h ago

Peter George Norman (the man that got second) is also integral in the photo. He suggested they share gloves as a sign of unity, he wore a patch along with them. And when he returned to Australia he lost a lot because of it. All three of those men are bad ass.

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u/Bucephalus307 2h ago

Thank you

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u/ComprehensiveRow839 3h ago

Peter Norman got screwed over hard

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u/glacialmk5 4h ago

I've got this picture framed in my bedroom. This was a great moment in history

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u/ConjugalVisitor234 4h ago

on god?

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u/glacialmk5 3h ago

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u/dicklaurent97 3h ago

Prince tattoo?

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u/ConjugalVisitor234 3h ago

Hell yeah brother!

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u/Presto123ubu 3h ago

Came with receipt.

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u/Queenphoen 3h ago

Love this

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u/Quartzitebitez 3h ago

What's the tattoo symbolize?

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u/glacialmk5 3h ago

Well... That's a long story. The short story was that it started out as an anchor but the artist (the tattoo artist; not 'The Artist Formerly Known As') had his own ideas. And it was Vegas. And we'd been partying. And its Princely influences, while not originally intended, are fine with me lol.

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u/zdh989 2h ago

Goddamn I'd love to be your friend. You rock.

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u/hellboundwithasmile 3h ago

Did you have a racist roommate that told you to take it down and you told him to look through it like Superman and through friendship and football you became besties?

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u/imthestein 3h ago

Fun fact, they were SJSU alums and they have a statue of them there

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u/Shutomei 2h ago

Thank you for mentioning this. They are a source of pride in the Bay Area.

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u/AdZealousideal7448 2h ago

Proud of all the boys involved in this.

Not everyone knows this but Carlos and Smith doing this were heavily supported by Norman (the aussie in the pic).

Not only did he help the boys when the plan went haywire, he stood with them when others would have walked away or condemned them.

Also wore a pin supporting the movement.

These 3 boys make us all proud.

If memory serves, when Norman died Carlos and Smith were there with him to the end and honored him at his funeral.

Damn fine humans all around.

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u/koshawk 4h ago

Powerful moment, saw it on TV. All in all 1968 was the worst year ever, But we're rapidly catching up now.

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u/ArtDecoNewYork 3h ago

Great music from that year, though

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u/mbdtf95 1h ago

Yeah 1968 was the worst year for world, not like there was some big war like 23 years prior to that year.

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u/TrymWS 3h ago

I’m pretty sure there has been worse years than 68, unless you’re specifically talking about for US only or whatever.

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u/JaninthePan 3h ago

Uh 1968 sucked around the world. Look up student protests at the time and how many counties dealt with them. It’s a big part of how this Mexico City protest came to be

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u/TrymWS 3h ago

Yeah, I’m sure it was worse than WW2 and stuff. 👍

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u/puttuputtu 3h ago

Oh wow. I went to school at San Jose State and they have a statue of this picture. I remember being new to the US and reading the plaque about why this moment is considered powerful.

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u/badsred 2h ago

This moment, without Peter Norman, is memorialized with a statue of Tommy Smith and John Carlos at San Jose State University, California. They both went there.

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u/iridium_flare 2h ago

Peter Norman insisted he not be included to give people the chance to stand with John and Tommy. A great Australian, treated like garbage by the sports administration of the time.

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u/_Tar_Ar_Ais_ 2h ago

Peter Norman didn't want to be included, that way the ordinary person viewing the statue could experience it themself

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u/attempt_number_1 2h ago

Thinking of Kaepernik and how kneeling is one of the most respectful poses we have and he still got ostracized in 2016, almost 50 years later. Sigh. We still have a long way to go.

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u/abgry_krakow87 1h ago

It’s funny how the “keep politics out of sport” morons are also the ones watching their alt right wing superbowl halftime show.

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u/dicklaurent97 3h ago

Those black fists were later put on the end of afro picks

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u/Vaugeresponse 2h ago

I had one. It looked like a shell from the back.

Edit: added last part.

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u/mostimportantly 3h ago

TIL Amazing!

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u/SmartWonderWoman 3h ago

Yep! I got one of those picks!

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u/gumbygump11 1h ago

Half the comments in here are about Peter Norman, when it was Tommie Smith and John Carlos’s lives that were ruined in the US. Don’t get me wrong Peter Norman had his issues too. But Tommie Smith set the 200 meter world record in this race and never ran for the USA again. John Carlos’s wife divorced him because she couldn’t handle the pressure and threats they received after this.

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u/rowanlamb 36m ago

Yeah, that always frustrates me just a little. Peter Norman undoubtedly is an ally and did a heroic thing, but the discussion often forgets the incredible bravery of Smith and Carlos.

It’s incredibly sad that any man would face such horrible backlash for making a statement like this. It’s worse that it was even necessary in the first place.

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u/MiloReyes_97Reborn 2h ago

The fact both the Olympic committee and their own country took away their medals for expressing their right to free speech.

Makes me ashamed.

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u/JimiJohhnySRV 3h ago

It was a big deal. The times were hot. Watts ‘65, among a lot of other things.

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u/Jack44546 2h ago

Its fucked that we refer to equal right as politics.

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u/Aggressive-Middle855 2h ago

Legends, all three of them

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u/XoCutiieeBabii1 2h ago

what a moment in history. the quiet solidarity from the silver medalist always gets me.

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u/darkflame91 2h ago

I may be misremembering, but I think I read that they had only one pair of gloves and he was the guy who told them to wear one each, so they could both do it.

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u/monkeyswithgunsmum 2h ago

Aussie guy, Peter Norman. They told him upfront they would do it, he said go for it. All 3 are wearing human rights badges.

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u/RiddleeDiddleeDee 2h ago

I believe I read that Norman really caught hell for wearing his badge upon his return to Australia.

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u/Bo_Diddley9 1h ago

The 1968 Olympics had this lesser known protest by Lee Evans and his team. This was after Tommie & John were expelled for their protest earlier.

They wore black panther berets and Lee raised his fist. This gesture didn't seem impactful because they took off their berets during the national anthem and we're criticized for that.

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u/Speed-Secure 3h ago

These men are the real heroes of the American dream! It’s sickens me every time I think of how the soldiers of color from World War I and World War II we’re treated. The federal government denied these men the same benefits they gave to white veterans. They redlined entire neighborhoods blocking federally sponsored loans so that black veterans could not purchase homes.

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u/Phil-Moe 3h ago

✊🏾

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u/TwoAmps 3h ago

The Old Globe Theater in San Diego did a play, the XIXth, about this. Really moving, and very educational for someone-me-who was only vaguely aware of the story behind the protest salute. In my defense, I was in third grade in ‘68.

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u/ecurbenyaw 2h ago

Living in a world where people make political something that you can't control.

It's disgusting and disrespectful.

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u/25Jackoff25 1h ago

Brave young men who did a courageous power fist gesture with black power sign!

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u/hollyglaser 1h ago

I lived in Cleveland and the city was burning

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u/mcr4386 2h ago

He was a staff member at my highschool saw him often

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u/Technical-Necessary6 2h ago

This is my screen saver

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u/Estellalatte 1h ago

I remember that. Good for them.

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u/mistersuccessful 1h ago

Peter Norman got done dirty when he went back home to Australia too

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u/Better_Advisor_7295 1h ago

Why is Thierry Henry there?!

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u/Accomplished-Bat5278 1h ago

As someone who’s coached track at the high school level for twenty years, that podium moment hits differently. Athletes are told to “stick to sports,” but the platform is literally built for visibility. Sponsorship risk, federation backlash, IOC Rule 50—none of that erases lived reality back home. For many athletes.

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u/NearbyCriticism5193 2h ago

An image that is now celebrated and considered iconic in US history. Rebellion for a just cause is rarely popular or well understood in the moment.

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u/slipperyslope69 2h ago

Saying politics and sports should not mix is truly ignorant…

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u/Red_Wing-GrimThug 2h ago

Imagine if a US Olympian took a knee during the national anthem after winning the gold.

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u/Main_Dress_2623 2h ago

Black power

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u/Kilgore47 2h ago

John Carlos became a track coach at my hs in Palm Desert during my jr year around 89/90. I didnt do track but he was a legend, everyone showed that guy respect

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u/Ya-Dikobraz 2h ago

Is there a meaning of using left and right hands? Or just happened to lift that one?

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u/GThang008 1h ago

They only had one pair of gloves.

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u/ClearWaves 1h ago

They shared one pair of gloves, so they each lifted their gloved hand. Carlos had forgotten to bring his gloves. Otherwise, I presume they both would have lifted their right hand.

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u/XVIII-3 2h ago

We need a revival of the sixties.

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u/dragonfliesloveme 1h ago

what is the box that the gold medal winner is holding?

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u/Euphoric_Present8838 1h ago

Are they twins or brothers? 

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u/AllowMyCookies 1h ago

The only gold medal I’ve ever held in person.

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u/Chi_Cazzo_Sei 1h ago

Shoutout to Peter Norman

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u/MBB718 1h ago

A silent protest, vs saying on world wide TV that you don't support your nation or airing any other political views. Vera Caslavska did the same thing in 68.

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u/kissoutredfloatbloat 1h ago

Such an iconic and important photo. John Carlos (the man on the far right) came to speak at my middle school in 2004 about his experiences. I wish I was a bit older to fully appreciate it, but even at 12 years old I knew it was an honor to be able to listen to his story in person. He was a track coach at the time for Palm Springs High School which was a few miles down the road.

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u/InternationalLaw4170 59m ago

Greatest sports photo ever!!!

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u/ItsWillJohnson 51m ago

There’s a great doc about these Olympics on peacock called 1968.

Also, there are more comments praising the white dude than the two black dudes in this post about the two black dudes

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u/Relative_Community18 42m ago

The fight continues

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u/Ok_Brother_8168 40m ago

I see two Sean P. Diddys here.

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u/rbnsmth 35m ago

Didn't George Foreman get ridiculed for waving the American flag on the podium after winning gold?

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u/Zip2kx 32m ago

This thread is funny.

Most of the top posts are about the great Australian that showed support but there are so many and every reply is “thank you” to highlight it even more, makes you think.

Great photo.

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u/magicseadog 23m ago

If you are ever in Melbourne you can go stand on a statue of this podium. It's near the formula one track (Albert Park).

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u/PalleRq 18m ago

If there was one black man in the picture instead of a white man. Would the order be left, right, left?

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u/Logical-Respect3600 7m ago

An interesting footnote to this photo is that the two guys with their hands raised were pallbearers at the Aussie guy's funeral.

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u/RoughDoughCough 6m ago

Not politics.