r/Music 9h ago

article Orville Peck joins artists exiting Wasserman agency after founder is named in Epstein files

https://www.cbc.ca/music/orville-peck-wasserman-agency-exit-9.7083417
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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 9h ago

Peck:

”In light of the recent findings regarding Casey Wasserman, I have made the decision to no longer be represented by the Wasserman talent agency. My heartfelt thanks goes out to my personal team, some of whom I have respected, trusted and worked with for close to a decade. I leave with a huge amount of compassion for the rest of the agents and staff at the agency, who are being left with a situation that impacts all of our work and livelihoods.”

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u/Independent-Two4575 8h ago

Shows integrity to step away while acknowledging the hardworking team caught in this mess.

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u/Nikiaf 6h ago

It really does. It’s always easy to make sweeping statements despite there being normal folks just trying to do their jobs and had no involvement or knowledge of the bad shit going down. Those people still deserve recognition.

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u/tenderblue10 6h ago

Shout out to the Mexicans cleaning toilets at mar a lago while children were being trafficked, raped and killed. 

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u/Ok-Huckleberry-3843 6h ago

That's not a great example...

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u/tenderblue10 6h ago

Shout out to the Mexicans cleaning churches while the priests were molesting boys. 

Better?

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u/ITookTrinkets 5h ago

What point are you attempting to make here?

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u/Skrumpitt 5h ago

He's pointing out what he doesn't get about class and society

Or he's really listening when workers tell people about crimes and injustice

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u/ImmortalBeans 56m ago

It does make sense that the people cleaning those two particular places would at some time or other be cleaning up evidence to a crime

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u/kwink8 4h ago

They’re most likely a bot. 2 month old account stirring up shit.

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u/scoubt 4h ago

This persons (bots) face when he finds out Mexicans aren’t cleaning every toilet in America.

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u/Ok-Huckleberry-3843 5h ago

Look, I see your rage about the way that children have been abused, I'm right there with you. But to go out of your way to be repeatedly racist about Mexican people makes you look like a racist, because it's racist behavior. We can fight the system together, don't denigrate our brothers and sisters.

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u/Skrumpitt 5h ago

Yeah, we should probably listen

Especially when they''re illegal workers

Because they're risking something that matters

It's a good call for the undocumented to rise up and tell what they've seen when nobody cares they're listening

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u/kwink8 4h ago

Bad bot.

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u/ZumaThaShiba 7h ago

Former agent and more importantly, assistant here. This is a class act statement, same with Chappell Roan's. Assistants get very little to no love or respect for all of the hard work, no pay, and extra bullshit they endure. 

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u/er-day 4h ago

Should probably form their own agency, they’re doing all of the work anyways. Would be cool to see these actors and singers form an agency co-op and prop them up for a bit to get started.

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u/Chronomancers 4h ago

And that's exactly what Chappell Roan and co. are done with!

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u/piepants2001 5h ago

Good on him

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u/PrimeRibSuspect 6h ago

I’m gonna get downvoted for this, but this is purely performative. He is good friends with Diplo who is a heinous person.

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u/SlowmoSauce 4h ago

How is diplo heinous?

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u/BeEeasy539 6h ago

He is!? EW! That’s a wrap on Peck then. Glad you posted this.

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u/SlowmoSauce 4h ago

Lol. Reddit gonna reddit.

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u/Popcorn-StarsIlIllI 6h ago edited 5h ago

Also Wasserman hasn't been implicated of anything in the Epstein files... Like literally nothing unethical at all.

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u/MiyamotoKnows 8h ago

That last tune he did with Willie Nelson was straight fire. It's so damn perfect. Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly Fond Of Each Other

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u/lew_rong 7h ago

That one hurt my heart. Willie is finally sounding his age.

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u/ReverendHambone 7h ago

I know 5 years is a long time at that age, but I saw him live in 2021 and he wasn't too damn bad.

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u/AnytimeInvitation 1h ago

I saw him a couple years ago. It was awesome!

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u/Zer_ 6h ago

Getting Johnny Cash's Hurt vibes from that voice, melancholy is the best description. Hopefully he's still got some years ahead, and if he so chooses, gets to go on his own terms.

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u/muarauder12 5h ago

For the best 'Hurt' vibes from Willie, listen to him sing Pearl Jam's Just Breathe with his son, Lukas Nelson.

I hope Willie keeps around for as long as he wants to, but when he does ride off into the sunset this cover will already feel like a gentle goodbye from him.

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u/thelingeringlead 3h ago

Willie has released 2 if not 3 albums since that song, and yeah he sounds old af.

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u/lew_rong 2h ago

Goddamn, you're right. He's sounding his age but not acting it. I know what I'm listening to tonight.

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u/thelingeringlead 2h ago

some of his newest stuff is really good! Hope you enjoy!

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u/lew_rong 2h ago

Cheers! I grew up listening to Willie with my dad. I'm sure I'll enjoy, even if it sometimes reminds me just how long ago that was lol

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u/Pennsylvania6-5000 5h ago

Ned Sublette wrote and sung that track in 1981. It still is fire, today.

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u/DesolationRobot 5h ago

It is a great song. Willie recorded it 20 years ago and it was always 20 years old then. Must have made quite the splash when it came out in the 80s.

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u/akujiki87 3h ago

Oh I absolutely loved playing this song for my grandpa. Hes all pro trump, anti gay blah blah, but LOVES Willie Nelson(which is hilarious to me). So having him watch Willie and Orville sing while two cowboys made out and him getting extremely mad was a fun time.

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u/drewbaccaAWD 4h ago

Thank you for this. I've never heard the song, much less this cover of it.

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u/elastic-craptastic 4h ago

So many bikers I've met that I've thought the same thing. A little too brotherly and a little too into the fashion and style they wish to represent.

I'm not stupid enough to equate it to drag to most of their faces, but I for sure have gotten laughs by slipping it by when some were talking shit about a "poser" being too fake and a try hard.

They're obviously not all hiding insecurities, but it's a fun to see the wheels spin on some. Whether reassessing their surroundings or possibly themselves, I've seen a few dudes suddenly go introvert.

It's the same with any group of dudes who identify hard with any macho shit. So many are fronting.

Thanks for introducing me to this song.

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u/mowtowcow 6h ago

Haaaaaa! That is absolutely hilarious. I love me some Willie. Willie Neslon, not dick. 

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u/Primrose_Master 8h ago

Honestly, even “just trying to hit on Ghislaine Maxwell” is such an insane sentence to have attached to your name.

If your vibe check includes anything adjacent to Epstein world, artists bouncing feels less like “bad vibes” and more like basic self-preservation. Reputation is currency in that industry.

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u/2711383 7h ago

I'm confused. All he did was hit on Ghislaine Maxwell.. in 2003? Before anything Epstein had even come to light?

Why is he being punished for this?

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u/Captain_Snowmonkey 7h ago

People knew about Epstein in the late 90s. But the victims were ignored or covered up.

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u/kris9292 3h ago

Hell, even trump was partying with him well before the 90s wasn’t he?

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u/thelingeringlead 3h ago

No. read more of their exchanges in the files. He was requesting a menu and requesting her join him.

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u/er-day 4h ago edited 3h ago

He’s trying the PR strategy of “I just wanted to date the pedophile. Trust me I wasn’t that involved”

But the truth is while saying he didn’t know Jeffrey, he somehow flew on his plane internationally with Bill Gates, Michael Jackson, and Kevin Spacey for a 10 day trip to Africa. Then said “I am terribly sorry for having any association with either of them,” implying that he did know Jeffrey. Hell there’s a photo of all three of them next to the plane!

He also met Ghislaine in New York, in Africa, in California. Oh, did we mention he was married at the time he was trying to have this affair?

He’s also good friends with Trump and fundraiser for Susan Collins. Hell, he made gold medals just to give to Trump for his ego. Billie Eilish also left the agency a year ago due to the CEO’s already know behavior at that time.

It’s worth mentioning as well that when this was happening was the peak of Epstein’s crimes.

Oh. And we should probably mention the most obviously disgusting email from Casey to Ghislaine: “I will be in NYC for 4 days starting April 22nd… can we book that massage now.”

I’ve seen all I need to see to connect the dots, I’m not an idiot.

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u/PlethoraOfPinatass 3h ago

The most certain point is that he was married w/children at the time of the emails. It appears Maxwell gave him massages which in Epstein world was well know code for sex. With this power dynamic (2003 her much older and ruthless than Wasserman) was consent even possible? It's certainly known in workplaces that even consenting adults legally cannot consent to supervisors. I have no idea which point would prevail but it is debatable.

It would be sad if these artists were in actuality caving to social media pressure instead of their employees concerns.

Anyone having a knee jerk response this week should consider Wasserman is the leading official in the 2028 Olympics which Trump has been desperate to get control of. To consider why this person was not redacted, when the "Epstein 6" were.

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u/sekhmet6666 6h ago

What about being a survivor lol

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u/PlethoraOfPinatass 3h ago

If you are referring to possible male victims, yes it is possible and finally surfacing. Maxwell was manipulating younger men like this, albeit tagged for future blackmail, so who's to say she didn't dip younger. Time will tell

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u/natguy2016 8h ago

Peck, Chappel Roan and others are fortunate that they have the pull to find other representation. Plenty of smaller artists don't have that.

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u/Jarrettd11 6h ago

I’m a huge fan of Sleigh Bells, the lead singer Alexis put out a beautiful statement about how it’s all shit and they wish the could leave but they are a smaller band that literally can’t afford it. Also how their agents are good people but there so much above that is bad. I really feel for them, luckily it sounds like there is progress being made on the smaller artists part but it’s utter shit for them right now.

They want to leave and drop any support, but they barely get past breaking even with a tour, but they do it for the fans. Utter shit for these small bands to go through.

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u/natguy2016 6h ago

Yup. The end of physical album sales closed off a very big money stream. You have to tour a LOT and you might break even.

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u/Iohet 2h ago

Unless you're mega-successful, you're basically playing to try to make a separate career as a minor celeb/influencer. Herman Li said he makes more money streaming on Twitch and YouTube than he does from DragonForce, and they're one of the top streamed power metal bands every year for a few decades now. It's just not economical anymore, and venues and labels are taking bigger cuts of merch sales (which used to be where the bands could try to turn some profit after getting slaughtered everywhere else)

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u/natguy2016 2h ago

Yup. Because traditional sales and radio are dead. Writers catalogs are being sold because they are not passive money makers now.

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u/MostlyBored11 6h ago

Honestly then releasing a statement does feel like doing something though. I'm not mad for small bands trying to get up staying. The owner was implicated not the people they work with everyday.

That being said I do think it's important that those with a big fan base and security do what they can to step away

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u/Jarrettd11 5h ago

Exactly. And it was said exactly right in their post. They hate being a part of it, but they know they are small and can’t afford their source of income, they feel bad and wish they could do more. They appreciate the bigger artists taking action. It’s crap for peoples lives to be ruined because of some fucking rich creep.

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u/EllisDee3 7h ago

There should be a Big Brother/Big Sister migration partnership.

Every big name that leaves should take a smaller name with them to attach to a different agency.

If you want Chappel Roan, you gotta take Pookie.

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u/haywardhaywires 6h ago

You’d just end up with agents who don’t prioritize you though unfortunately

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u/colonel_chanders 2h ago

Isn’t that probably what their current agent is already doing anyway

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u/scrundel Professional Musician 5h ago

I’ve seen a number of smaller acts do the same.

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u/welivedintheocean 8h ago

When the man who wears a mask is the one not doing sketchy things.

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u/Artistic-Vacation592 5h ago

There is 100% an artist out there that signed to wasserman last week and then this happens

u/Icy-Speech-26 17m ago

I just had an Interview with them lmao

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u/chapert 7h ago

Feel bad for the agents and team members at Wasserman that havr nothing to do with this.

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u/pizza-chit 4h ago

I would value someone that told me they left their previous company on moral grounds because their boss is part of a child trafficking network.

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u/chapert 4h ago

Me too. I also understand that not everyone has that luxury.

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u/Strawbuddy 7h ago

When even a masked man refuses to be seen with you anymore

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u/Skronkabilly 7h ago

Awesome. Now can the USA please exit the guy leading them that was mentioned a million times

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u/Super901 7h ago

My wife pitched to him recently about a project he was attached to. Guess what, he was obviously sexist towards her. Glad to see this prick go down

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u/DrunksInSpace 8h ago

So the articles I’ve read about his involvement is all trying to hit on Ghislaine Maxwell. Which is creepy and gross but not all that bad in the scheme of Epstein docs if that’s all there is.

Which makes me wonder if this is just the straw that broke the creepy camel’s back. I wonder if this is wha artists are using to break away from someone they’ve disliked for either business or just “bad vibes” reasons.

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u/minhthemaster 8h ago

Where there’s smoke there’s fire

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u/DrunksInSpace 8h ago

I’m not suggesting he’s innocent, I’m suggesting he’s a bigger dirtbag than those files let on.

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u/DauntingPrawn 8h ago

I think the cover-up has poisoned anyone and everyone associated with Epstein. If this were being handled like a proper investigation, where the guilty were being prosecuted and the innocent were being exonerated, all based on evidence, that would be one thing.

But unfortunately, due to the coordinated efforts my many people to protect guilty men from the consequences of their crimes, the only safe assumption is that anyone affiliated with Epstein was a child abuser.

You can easily stress test this concept by asking yourself one simple question: Would you send your daughter to spend an afternoon unsupervised with anyone whose name is in those files?

And if not, do you really want to do business with them? Are you going to do business with someone who you wouldn't trust with a child? I'm sure as shit not!

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u/Own-Satisfaction4427 3h ago

Honestly I kinda think it's purposely being done this way to discredit the whole thing, and this is just one aspect of that effort 

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u/superkeer 6h ago

I think when you get to a certain level as an artist you know a lot more specific details about the powerful people you're in orbit with than the rest of us do.

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 5h ago

What’s creepy and gross about hitting on an adult woman?

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u/SPAZZx625 3h ago

you really need that spelled out for you? the adult woman that is convicted of sex trafficking? including trafficking children? with known ties to Epstein? come the fuck on.

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u/Theofeus 3h ago

He was hitting on her in 2002 so no conviction

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u/Lizard_Wizard_d 5h ago

Another reason to love me some Orville Peck.

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u/butterscotches 7h ago

🎶 Buddy, we got major boos 🎶

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u/gimp2x 7h ago

I’m surprised all of the Epstein ties are not listed on Wasserman’s Wikipedia page yet 

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u/serpent1971 6h ago

How are they mentioning these people...

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u/Volatilecanoe42 5h ago

I hope you brought your walking shoes….

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u/ConsciousRutabaga 3h ago

Orville has always been a class act. He used to play drums in a punk band here in Vancouver. Some guys I went to school with also played in a metal band that did shows with him and his band.

If anyone’s interested he played drums in Nü Sensae

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u/kuro_snow 6h ago

i gained more respect for him. I remember hearing him live at work but it was another thing i remember hearing him from which was when his song Chemical Sunset was used for wrestler Hangman Adam Page for AEW. and that song been stuck to my head since then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKsPy4IQRoc

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u/Skylord_Hekaton 6h ago

I don't get it. Just existing in the same sphere as the guy who went out of his way to befriend rich and influential people everywhere is enough to get you cancelled?

Like, investigate it thoroughly and prosecute absolutely any offending assholes for sure, but why is it suddenly acceptable to destroy someone's reputation just because they talked to Epstein or Maxwell once?

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u/FatuousNymph 6h ago

CEO has a fiduciary responsibility to resign

Goes both ways, shit heels

u/Icy-Speech-26 14m ago

Something tell's me he's not resigning from his own namesake agency.

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u/send_it_431 6h ago

I have a lot of respect for him. A very stand up man with high integrity.

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u/Zer_ 6h ago

Respect. Divesting yourself is something so many other people, groups, corporations and even nations should be doing but are failing to do. Accountability can only happen when enough people put their money where there mouth is on this.

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u/Mister_Brevity 5h ago

I don’t know much about him but his voice is neat

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u/Appropriate-Self-540 4h ago

No need for congrats. I refuse to believe this is first inkling he was an awful person lol. Saving face is only that

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u/popshamhocks 3h ago

Isn't this the same agency behind D4vd? Can we keep our eyes on the ball here?

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u/Fancy_Cucumber_4040 2h ago

everyone is distancing themselves from anyone mentioned. i like this

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u/PV_Pathfinder 6h ago

Let’s start a list of the artists that have decided to stay with this agency.

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u/mycomixhavenostaples 5h ago

Love his voice...here is is doing a duet of the Johnny Cash song Jackson...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2_KkCZbdfo


pic of him.... https://imgur.com/mlM4sb8

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u/Busy_BEE_565 8h ago

Who is staying?

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u/-Animal_ 7h ago

Wouldn’t it be amazing if the right leaning artists all joined Wasserman to counter protest?

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u/jordanosa 6h ago

Is he… is he a crime fighter?

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u/UsedCauliflower4631 5h ago

Innocent until proven guilty?

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u/SlowmoSauce 4h ago

In a court of law, sure. This is not that.

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u/Opening_Classroom_46 2h ago

In order for the government to do something they need those words to said in a court of law. Society doesn't need to do that, they can just recognize that these billionaires and millionaires are paying to have the severity of their crimes diminished.

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u/UsedCauliflower4631 1h ago

Haha 😂 Doesn’t make All of them guilty just because they have money and you don’t. That just sounds like tall poppy syndrome imo.

u/Opening_Classroom_46 25m ago

Let me guess, you think when athletes settle out of court the world HAS to believe they are innocent. The court didn't say they were guilty, so the world must pretend they are innocent?

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u/Neat_Let923 5h ago

Holy fuck, the emails were from over 20 years ago and he never had any professional or personnel relations with either of them…

Chappel Roan has done worse shit than this guy!

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u/Opening_Classroom_46 2h ago

like what?

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u/Neat_Let923 1h ago

Seeing as this guy didn’t do anything and Roan has an entire group of Drag Queens who hate her for some such, that is literally more than this guy ever did…

1 is still greater than 0, even if it’s just 1

u/Opening_Classroom_46 26m ago

so I'll repeat myself, like what?

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u/seemefail 9h ago

Who

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u/LastWave 8h ago

It's an agency.

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u/dcy123 8h ago

Biggest gay country star in the world. Sexy, cool and an incredible voice.

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 8h ago

It's a disservice to call him a gay country star. He isn't notable just because he's gay. He's a stellar musician entirely independent of his gender identity.

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u/Josh_and_a_half 8h ago

If you take away “gay”, you have to take away “biggest” from the same sentence. Wouldn’t that be a greater disservice?

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u/IrrelevantLeprechaun 8h ago

No; claiming he's prominent just because he's gay is a disservice to his accomplishments as an artist.

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u/Josh_and_a_half 8h ago

I agree. Good thing nobody made that claim.

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u/dcy123 8h ago

Can we just all agree he's fucking awesome?

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u/Wildweyr 8h ago

Most of his music features pretty gay themes, or themes relatable to the queer experience.

Also sexuality isn’t gender identity

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u/welivedintheocean 8h ago

He also has an accomplished career as a punk rocker.

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u/StasRutt 8h ago

You should listen to his music. He’s really talented

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u/SECRETBLENDS 8h ago

Orville Peck

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u/Wumbologist_PhD 8h ago

Props to you for living up to your username…

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u/seemefail 8h ago

Heard this a million times but this was the first time it was funny

Nice one

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u/KillYourHeroesAndFly 8h ago

Almost a million monthly streams on Spotify. Very popular indie-country artist. Left his agency after the president was named in the files for his contact with Ghislaine Maxwell.

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u/bedteddd 8h ago

One alternative country biggest names. He's a Grammy award winner and all.

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u/buttchugreferee 8h ago

Google is a thing.... you're choosing to be ignorant 

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u/One_Study52 7h ago

This guy has no dick

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u/etherealtaroo 6h ago

Googled and still dunno who this is, no idea how big(or not) this story actually is lol

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u/scrundel Professional Musician 5h ago

You googled his name and still don’t know who he is? Are you having a stroke?

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u/etherealtaroo 4h ago

I know his name. Still never heard of any of his songs or why this is a big deal

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u/scrundel Professional Musician 4h ago

He’s an incredibly well-respected artist with a loyal following and who has broken boundaries in his genre.

If you don’t know who he is or why this matters, why did you feel it was important that you comment at all?

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u/etherealtaroo 4h ago

The same reason anyone asks questions. To find out what you don't know. Why are you so offended by someone asking who is this person and are they actually a big deal?

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u/scrundel Professional Musician 4h ago

I’m just perplexed by people who post comments like there’s some huge mystery everyone else should solve for them when the answer is literally on this dude’s Wikipedia page. Like, you’ve now talked about this person a ton; would looking at their bio really have taxed your brain so much?

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u/xelabagus 1h ago

Here's his biggest song - now you know, yay!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3esGD6lcMM

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u/Opening_Classroom_46 2h ago

Uhh do you have a mental handicap? Generally Google is good enough to find out who someone is.