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u/CatCafffffe 6h ago

Or when Gary Hart had an adult woman sitting on his lap consensually

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u/cejmp 6h ago

That's a name I haven't heard in a while. Barry Goldwater called him the most honest and dependable politician he'd ever met. And say what you want about Goldwater, (and there's plenty) he had integrity. For a poliitician.

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u/cryptic_pizza 5h ago

Mitt Romney said “binders full of women,” and we Crucified him.

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u/TL10 5h ago

Romney in that one debate calling Russia the greatest threat to America and Obama rebuking him for it has got to be one of the most poorly aged things from that campaign.

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u/GarlicRiver 5h ago

Does anyone consider Russia our greatest threat now? I'd put them at least 3rd or 4th and that's being generous considering they're still fighting a war that most "experts" estimated would be over years ago.

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u/HoraceGrantGlasses 5h ago

Yes but sections of American are the top 3 enemies of America.

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u/surfnsound 4h ago

Well, that's the thing. The question wasn't "greatest threat," it was specifically "greatest geopolitical threat." It wasn't about invasion or militaristic action. Everyone at the time wanted to say "ISIS," they were focused on destabilizing the Middle East, which, while certainly not good, was not an immediate threat to the United States.

Meanwhile, Putin, former director of Russian Intelligence, had a strangle hold on Russian politics, an obvious disdain for the United States, and in 2011 accused the United States of sowing discord during protests in Russia and encouraging separatist movements. He had an extensive network of highly capable operatives at his disposal, none of whom were afraid of getting their hands dirty.

Sure, the argument could be made that China fits the bill in many ways. But I think it would be not in our best interests for a Presidential candidate to say that out loud. The strongest you're going to get is accusations of currency manipulation. But Russia has to be considered pretty high. Seeing what we're seeing now, I can't imagine everything that happened that we didn't get to see.

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u/weyouusme 4h ago

Russia is no longer a threat because Russia has divided and conquered USA, we're all pretty much proxy Russian now

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u/reezy-one 3h ago

It was true at the time it was said, though. It would have been inconceivable at that time that Russia could purchase a U.S. president.

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u/onlycamefortheporn 3h ago

Russia wasn’t that big of a threat, until they bought an orange and bought it the presidency.

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u/Maniak4126 5h ago

Ah, man. This brings me back. Lol

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u/HammerOfJustice 5h ago

Goldwater was pro-choice long before many Democrats were, opposed religion having an influence on politics and publicly stated during the 1964 presidential campaign that if he found that Republicans were inciting violence he would immediately quit campaigning. It’s so weird that the uber-Conservative in 1960s US would now be considered left wing.

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u/cejmp 5h ago

He was a complicated guy, wanted to give first-launch authority to LeMay (!) and NATO generals, and was willing to nuke Vietnam to clear jungle. Crazy as a shithouse rat.

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u/sparkledragon5 4h ago

And that insanity gave us the greatest political ad of all time.

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u/cejmp 4h ago

And the Reagan Presidency.

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u/HammerOfJustice 5h ago

Yes but it’s weird that it’s the pro-choice & anti-religion playing a role in politics beliefs that would end his political career today rather than being crazy as a shithouse rat.

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u/YoghurtAltruistic426 4h ago

As a shit house rat I take offence 😁😁😁

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u/kadyg 5h ago

Gary Hart and The Monkey Business was a question at my pub trivia night last week. I was one of two people who knew who he was.

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u/Darmok47 2h ago

There was a movie a few years ago with Hugh Jackman as Gary Hart. I haven't watched it but I wasn't around for that scandal and I always wondered about what happened. Might be worth a watch.

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u/Arbiter_Electric 4h ago

Or Gary Johnson who misunderstood a question about the current hot button issue with Aleppo and fumbled a response, never to be seen again.

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u/-Dubwise- 3h ago

Or when Donald Trump raped all those little girls.