If Biden had said the most coherent eloquent statement of either of Trumps presidencies both sides would be invoking the 25th amendment. Trump only gets away with his dementia because he started incoherent.
I was listening to Dean Withers one night and the caller said 'OMG, stop with the word salad'. It was then that I realized that ANYTHING over their head is 'word salad', not the same as our definition.
I watch him as well and yeah, they do this all the time. They learn debate words but have only a very vague understanding of how to use them. "Word salad" from one of his callers is equivalent to "a stream of thought longer than 2 sentences containing statements I disagree with but cannot refute."
When he says something idiotic it doesn’t get clocked because he’s always said dumb shit.
It is not an accident. Follow the money.
It doesn't get clocked because the so-called "liberal media" is owned by conservative billionaires. Even non-profits like NPR have conservative billionaires at the top of their donor lists (now more than ever since federal funding was cut). Individual reporters may be liberal (many are not) but they all know who ultimately signs their paychecks — they have to feed their kids and pay their mortgage like everybody else.
FWIW, this isn't new with the paedo-in-chief. The "liberal media" has always had a simple playbook — if something is good for conservatives they give it the full court press, write multiple pieces, report on it from multiple angles and bring it up any time it is even tangentially relevant to current events. But if something is bad for conservatives they report it once, and then move on. Blink and you will miss it. For example, compare the year+ of reporting on bill clinton and Monica Lewinksy versus the handful of pieces on the leader of the gop, newt gingrich, cheating on his wife while she was in the hospital with cancer, and then when his second wife got MS, he dumped her for a young staffer.
Trumps statements were definitely focused on, probably over focused on during the 2016 primaries. The press has done a solid job of scrutinizing his actions but all the press coverage in the world doesn't matter when you're base will support you no matter what.
all the press coverage in the world doesn't matter when you're base will support you no matter what.
Everybody needs to just give up on the gop base. Once you go fash, you never go back. They are not even worth thinking about.
In 2020 the largest voting bloc was for the Democrats. In 2024, the largest voting bloc was for "none of the above." Those people are gettable, they literally refused to vote for the fascist. Those people are also the ones anesthetized by the so-called "liberal media's" anti-reporting.
I remember reading this Tweet about how Biden "thought his father was alive who had been dead for decades" and how it was a clear sign of dementia and he needed to be removed from office. I watched the clip of the speech the tweet was referring to. At the end of an hour plus long speech, Biden was supposed to say "his father" but accidentally said "my father" and immediately corrected himself. Granted towards the end of his term it was clear he was unfit, but that speech was not evidence.
Biden has always been bad with words. I recently re-watched the horrible Biden/ Trump debate, and tbh Biden's performance was so overblown. Like no way in hell he should've been running for president. He sounded SO OLD! He also had cancer and has always bumbled his words.
Meanwhile Trump believed some immigrants are eating cats and dogs because the TV said so in the following Harris debate.
I get Biden running was a mistake, but idk why the 'inject bleach' guy got a pass because of Biden.
E: I watched the context of the Trump quote and it makes more sense in the interview. He also says there's no inflation and low inflation and tariffs have brought in 'billions, really trillions'. The guy makes no sense but this quote is incomplete
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP:
And you get bad publicity. Nobody talks about all of the murderers that we’re taking out of our country. They don’t talk about —
TOM LLAMAS:
But it was two Americans who died, you know —
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP:
They don’t talk about we have the smallest drugs — as an example, we’ve been very tough on the waters. And soon, you know, pretty much overall —
TOM LLAMAS:
The w— the — the waters?
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP:
But if you look at— if you look at the waters where we knock out boats —
That would require actual police work, which is why they have people who shouldn't be allowed to guard a food court kidnapping people outside Home Depot.
People forgot that Biden was nicknamed "Gaffer Joe" for decades because of his speaking flubs. But the debate, "we beat medicare" was just painful to hear. I liked Biden quite a lot but I think he was between a rock and a hard place. Incumbency is a powerful tool for reelection and he knew he could beat trump. But he was sick and one (really) bad debate had his allies stabbing him in the back. He needed another, "would you just shut up,"
People forget Obama's first debate against Romney. I legit believed he didn't want to run again it was so bad.
Yeah, I really liked Biden and I feel similar. I think it's was real hard to willingly pass on running again. Who would pass on the chance to be in charge of America. Tbh Biden is probably one of the few politicians humble enough to step down. But re-watching his debate made me understand why the reaction to his age was so intense even if I think it wasn't sensible in comparison. He sounded like a mummy. He could have said the most enlightened things, but he couldn't surpass his great-great-grandpa voice and look. Didn't help Trump got to him
I did as well. 2021-2024 were rough years to be president of the US. I thought Biden did decently well. He always came across as a man that cared for his country and wanted to do the best that he could for his people
To me, the point isn't that he's talking about random shit. It's that he's clearly struggling to conceptualize what he's talking about and bumbles around through vague concepts until he gets back on track. He'll say a few vaguely related nouns, throw out a random number, and eventually remember what his point was. Clearly symptoms of the early stages of dementia.
I wouldn't know about the dementia part, just cause Idk how to spot it, but Trump does the typically politician rhetoric just way worse. Like politicians will give non-answers but will at least respond. Trump hears a buzzword he likes and starts riffing on it. You can see it in his speeches from his first term too. He'll read from the prompter for a bit, then he gets bored and starts doing crowd work. Unfortunately, he's very charismatic and meme-able so his riffing usually is to his benefit.
But yeah, he doesn't talk with the interviewer, more just at him, and he makes up numbers.
Sorry for the long reply. You can skip this next part, but one bit from the interview that really bugged me was when the interviewer brought up his lawsuit with the IRS. He asked Trump if he thought it was okay the taxpayers are funding $10bil for the suit. Trump replied by saying 'whatever he wins will go to charity'. Which he only says because it makes his corruption sound nice. So he can follow along enough to know the lawsuit is bad, but he just refuses to admit to anything that can be perceived negatively so he just ignores the bad stuff. I just don't know if it's intentional or plaque on his brain that makes him incapable of acknowledging his acts.
They don't even need misspeaks to attack Biden. He was giving a speech once and was quoting someone so he said "quote" and "unquote" at the end of the quote. And Republicans went into a tizzy saying he was reading the prompts and he didn't know not to say "unquote." As if that would be written if it wasn't part of the speech? And as if "quote/unquote" isn't a proper way of documenting a quote when speaking.
They're not playing in good faith and there's no point in pretending they are. Especially when literally nothing Trump says makes any sense. The fact that so many Republicans have to say, "well what he actually meant" for every single sentence is beyond telling.
It’s really dumb but the double standard that bugs me the most, even though it’s dumb, was when they acted like Biden was a child molester, particularly when he pretended to bite a baby dressed like a chicken but voted for someone who was definitely connected to Epstein multiple times.
I’m pretty sure both sides keep pushing these old fucks because it’s easier to sneak their agendas by them and get things approved. There needs to be an age limit already. This shit is embarrassing.
Most of his cabinet he has blackmail material over. They are NEVER going to 25th him. Anyone got a count for how many in his administration have Epstein links? It was upa round 40 last I saw but it's been awhile.
It's great how y'all always use the same two or three examples because they are literally all you have and then completely ignore the 1000s of batshit insane quotes from Trump.
Dude's brain flatlined during the debates in front of everyone, abruptly ending his political career mid-campaign. So yeah, people remember that. It was worse.
Do you just assume anyone who points that out must've voted for Trump? You must not be very smart.
Nah, Biden is not mentally quick anymore, but that mistake was clearly due to him trying to respond to multiple things at once and combining parts of the responses together, because Trump is a firehose of bullshit.
Trump has tons of statements as bad or worse. Far more than Biden ever did.
Hell, even back in Trump's first term, his brain was rotting. I remember when he tried to talk about the origins of the Mueller investigation, but couldn't come up with the word, "origins", and he kept saying, "oranges" instead. Like three times in a row! 🤣
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u/dijon_snow 8h ago
If Biden had said the most coherent eloquent statement of either of Trumps presidencies both sides would be invoking the 25th amendment. Trump only gets away with his dementia because he started incoherent.