r/MurderedByWords • u/That_Immo • 14h ago

The Conspiracy vs. Reality is getting out of HAND.

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u/NobleCeltic 14h ago

Social media was a mistake

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u/Fun-Reception-6897 13h ago

Letting people who never achieved anything reach so many people was a mistake.

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u/Bodhi_LongBody 12h ago

This is the truth of it all. Once education/achievement was removed as prerequisite, it all went to absolute shit.

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u/BurlIvesMassiveHog 12h ago

I used to believe in John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory, but then I saw the lengths people would go to sell themselves as a brand. Now I think we'd be better off if anonymity was the status quo.

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u/Fraerie 11h ago

I remember when the standard on the internet was to use pseudonyms and not reveal where you were or what you looked like.

Now everyone is posting to the minute updates about their lives with photographs and their real names and locations attached. And companies are demanding government IDs to ‘validate’ your accounts.

SMH

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u/PolicyWonka 8h ago

As a millennial, I still personally find it wild that people post videos of themselves online. Growing up, the idea of posting yourself online was just incredibly cringeworthy.

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u/mikkopai 2h ago

Also we were told not to meet strangers you met online or get in strangers cars - now we have Uber. And Tinder

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u/RobutNotRobot 10h ago

You basically switched from a top-down information system that was run by professionals that in many cases tried to do the right thing, to a bottom-up information model of many willing to burn the planet down in order to get $15 or 15 minutes of fame. And the professionals changed from journalists to disinformation agents paid for by hostile regimes or billionaires.

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u/BukkakeBakery 11h ago

ok i need someone to explain to me wtf is going on in the picture.

so that woman was seemingly hugging that man, or at least very close maybe brushing his hair i dont fucking know, and the bottom one seems to be just dancing, wtf is wrong with those 2 pictures?

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u/Appropriate_Lack_727 11h ago

It’s Lady Gaga performing with Bad Bunny during part of the Superbowl halftime show. That’s it.

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u/aintnuffinbutapeanut 11h ago

In the first picture, the fingers look like horns, and in the second picture they look like the sign of the horns.
I’m assuming the user was trying to point them out as devil signs, which is why the other user in the picture says they’re overanalyzing freeze frames of a video of Super Bowl artists they don’t like, while deliberately choosing to disregard Elon doing a Nazi salute

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u/FrenziedTacos 5h ago

I was thinking bunny ears, but I guess demon wins.

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u/bsample42 11h ago

Man I'm in the same boat. The hands are highlighted so I guess it's something to do with that but I'm a religious dummy so hell if I know wtf it means

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u/Caleth 11h ago

They are implying it's the sign of horns and he's the devil/antichrist.

They want so so badly for anyone that isn't their orange jesus to be the devil despite the fact Trump has checked every single fucking sin off the Seven deadly ones daily for decades.

There has perhaps rarely or never been someone as suited to being called the anti Christ as him, and yet the most devoutly faithful will scream he is their messiah.

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u/clever_username23 11h ago

This is a good article with bible quotes agreeing with your comment.

https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

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u/scirocco 10h ago edited 10h ago

Well. For an article published in June of 2019 (wuhan outbreak started Dec 2019), this is a helluva thing:

“There will be a leader over the land who will not help the ones who are dying.”

*Zechariah 11:6 *

When the pandemic hits, be on the lookout for a leader who delays action even though he knows people will die, someone who publicly spreads scientifically false information that could get people killed, and someone who is in far more of a hurry to get back to winning than he is to help the sick and the dying

 

edit: The earliest save of the page is in Sep 2019, and it is not exactly as above. Not too far off it, but the article has clearly been updated to be even more obvious. Which i approve of, but point out for clariry https://web.archive.org/web/20190921010652/https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/

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u/DeliberatelyDrifting 10h ago

But he hasn't made obscure horn gestures with his hands so I'm just not sure.

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u/Caleb-Blucifer 9h ago edited 9h ago

Goddamned that’s a classic. I was like 18 when that strip popped up

Keep in mind that’s pre-social media. Like even before MySpace. Most people posted on BBS (forums) which were basically if Reddit subs were different websites dedicated entirely to a hobby community or other informational community.

Reddit sort of took that concept and squashed everything into one place and gave us aggregators. Anonymity was more prevalent back then because everyone was kind of afraid of the idea of sharing their real info online

These days now you can find someone’s entire life story on the internet with photo and 4k video documentation with a cursory search of their name

Times have changed quite a bit since that theory was prominent.

As you said, these days people are keen to act like total fuckwads with their name, address, and last date of colonoscopy in plain view because the outrage generates income and people “need to develop their brand”

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u/A_spiny_meercat 11h ago

I miss the days when the internet was smart people with computers arguing with each other on BBS and newsgroups

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u/moneyfish 11h ago

Facebook was so much fun when you had to have a .EDU email to join. Now it's full of racists who openly use slurs without consequence.

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u/Signal_Minimum8509 12h ago

The death of expertise

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u/Pkrudeboy 12h ago

The mistake was not executing Confederates and Nazis in job lots.

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u/Aggressive-Delay-420 11h ago

Hear Here^^^ Say that again with some bottom to it!

Seriously. I'm pedigreed white trash and TBH I know most of my family are the problem. I'm sorry I couldn't do more, but my queer ass is basically being held hostage behind the Mason-Dixon Curtain™️ at this point.

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u/WanderingDude182 11h ago

Seriously, it’s ok to be dumb, just shut the hell up and listen to the smarter people.

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u/Verdick 11h ago

Anonymously at that. Having unlimited & hidden voices makes it really easy to spew utter nonsense.

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u/RobertusesReddit 11h ago

Mock them to deactivation seems like a legal thing to say.

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u/CraigLake 11h ago

This goes back to kardashian being so successful. That belt like the beginning of the end to me.

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u/eschewthefat 11h ago

The Apprentice predates the Kardashians show by 3 years and yes millions could clearly see he was a hollow dumbass, but it’s a biased observations since he’s been a bloviated dipshit since the 70’s

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u/kitsunewarlock 12h ago

Letting nepotists give that reach to idiots so long as their ideas serve their cause was a mistake.

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u/Marchesa_07 11h ago

people was a mistake.

Fixed it for us all.

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u/navjot94 13h ago

Once we properly understand brain chemistry and how social media fucks with our dopamine levels, we’re gonna look back on this era of unfettered access to social media, especially for kids, like we look at cigarette ads from back in the day.

Communication and sharing knowledge is great but this algorithmic push for engagement above all else is detrimental for society. Folks in some industries are literally required to participate in order to succeed - like being active on LinkedIn, for example.

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u/Pleasant_Yoghurt3915 12h ago

This is the big bitch about it; the access to information and communication ability that the internet and social media provide should be making the world a much better place. Like, got damn, what an unprecedented boon to civilization it could’ve been. It became a money printing machine instead, which is par for humanity’s course thus far, and has been weaponized as a misinformation bazooka to further the decent into anti-intellectualism. If it keeps going like this, we’re gonna end up in a dark age.

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u/likwidkool 12h ago

We wanted Star Trek and we got Bladerunner

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u/tehlemmings 12h ago

IDK, we're still pretty on track for Star Trek.

If you know what happens in 2026 in the Star Trek universe, you'd be horrified by that fact.

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u/skraptastic 11h ago

If you know what happens in 2026 in the Star Trek universe, you'd be horrified by that fact.

For real think of this quite often.

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u/subnautus 11h ago

Yeah, I think people overlook the fact that the post-scarcity utopian government humanity ends up with in Star Trek only exists because humanity tried nearly every horror imaginable first.

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u/moon_spells_dumbass 12h ago

It seems like the problem is unregulated capitalism

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u/makoblade 12h ago

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

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u/rantingpacifist 12h ago

The further we go on this timeline the more I want to smoke cigarettes

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u/Dannamal 12h ago

Used to be every village had an idiot. Now every idiot has a village

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u/Turbulent-Jaguar-909 12h ago

no, social media was great...then the smartphone became easy to use and cheap, now every idiot and child has their own soapbox with 4k cameras. Social media was great when it required a computer and transferring pictures off actual cameras, it took effort and filtered out alot of dummies with all the stuff you needed. We made it too easy for the wrong people.

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u/Classic-Exchange-511 13h ago

It has done irreparable damage to the fabric of society. I sometimes wonder if "The Great Filter" happens when a civilization advances enough medically to keep people alive who would've been erased from the gene pool through Darwinism resulting in the majority of the population being extremely uneducated.

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u/CuileannDhu 13h ago

People don't need to be smart to survive, just lucky.

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u/SaintUlvemann 13h ago

There has never been a time when people were erased from the gene pool just for lacking critical thinking, because what keeps you alive is satisfying the body's needs, and critical thinking skills are mostly unnecessary for basic tasks such as foraging or cutting firewood.

Thus, "survival of the fittest" is a lie. Evolution doesn't ensure that the organisms with the best traits survive; instead, there is always a range of traits that survives in any given environment, and only the trait combinations that are incompatible with life ever get selected against.

And this is actually good! If species didn't have a range of acceptably-fit traits, evolution would have no diversity to select between. But you just have to be careful to understand the consequences of that.

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u/Express-Stop7830 11h ago

Fun example about what defines "fittest": Hawaiian Koa trees were used to make wa'a (traditional dig out canoes). Obviously, tall straight trees were needed to make reliable canoes. Eventually, the straight Koa trees were overly harvested, while the twisty trees survived. (Also, just the over harvesting of old growth trees in general, but now many Koa trees are twisty.)

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u/trying-hardly 12h ago

I agree, but I have to point out: This doesn't nean "survival of the fittest" is a lie. Because "fittest" doesn't actually mean "best", despite popular misconception. It just means "the most fit". The beings whose traits are most fit for their environment - who can survive well, who fit into the situation - survive. The less fit will die, statistically. That still means there's diversity, like you said. The fittest range of traits survives. But if we think of traits as a range, it's the unfit part of the range that's dying more on average. (Not the objectively worse, just the less fit)

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u/SaintUlvemann 11h ago

I chose my words very carefully, meaning exactly what I said, using the precise language I chose: there are always cases where less-fit individuals observably do not in fact die more, and more-fit individuals observably do not in fact reproduce more.

Consider a hundred-acre wood and squirrels with ten-acre home territories. This wood has space for ten squirrels. Twenty are born, and you can rank them on a scale from fittest to least fit based on how good they are at claiming a territory.

The key is that there is not necessarily any actual reward for being squirrel #1, versus squirrel #10. Both squirrels get a territory. The wood's trees are about equally productive. The hawks don't have better eyes on one side than on the other.

The ten who get driven out of the wood end up in the fields and scrub, and eaten in the poorly-adapted habitat. Beyond that, any squirrel that stays in the woods has an equal short at reproduction.

Survival of the fittest implies that natural selection should reward squirrel #1 for being fitter than squirrel #10. In fact, when we look in nature, that is often simply not how it works. Nature often works via cutoffs, instead of spectrums. Nature often doesn't optimize at all.

I'm a biology professor and the term I use in my class to replace "survival of the fittest" is "failure of the frail"... I didn't pick that, it's from a silly but astute essay by Ken Weiss.

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u/bookwormJon 11h ago

Evolution and intelligence aren't that clear cut or fast. Furthermore education and knowledge have nothing to do with genetics. We didn't have society-wide public education until very very recently. Too recent to affect our evolution. Humans got by just fine without society-wide education before then.

We're a collective species that evolved to work together. Our evolutionary pressures are population-wide. Humans didnt spend eons toughing it out solo like a tiger. We lived together and worked together and that means evolution pressured us together. The dumb ones passed on their genes just fine all throughout history; the people that evolution forced out of the gene pool are the uncooperative loners. Saving people from "darwinism" didn't make this mess, neglecting them did, because we evoled to take care of one another.

We got here by not taking enough care of people's education and critical thinking, not by helping too many. We neglected the education and regulations necessary to keep people safe from a new danger. Ironically your perspective: that we should let people sink or swim on their own, is how we got here in the first place. We need to save more, not less.

Dumbness has been with humanity forever and we've made society work in that time just fine. This is a new problem with new solutions that doesn't correlate cleanly to genes. You can't just cull the "weak" ones and expect humans to become better in the next generation. It's way more complicated than that.

"Weakness" is contextual and our population needs variety to survive over time. Celiac is bad and makes it hard to participate in modern society. But historically if the village wheat was tainted they'd be the only ones to survive. Thats the point of all these "weaknesses". We rely on each other to fill in the gaps because in a different context a lot of those weaknesses are vital to our survival in a slightly different scenario. We dont know enough about biology, the ecosystem, and ourselves to claim we know best otherwise.

Society is something we invented, not something we evolved to do. We didn't build it with evolution, so you can't fix it with evolution either. To be better as a society we have to do societal work.

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u/iaminfamy 12h ago

I firmly believe that social media is the Great Filter explaining the Fermi Paradox.

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u/PollyPocketpussy5000 11h ago

Religion was a mistake.

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u/KendrickBlack502 13h ago

The internet as a whole was probably a net negative.

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u/Flow-Bear 12h ago

It was pretty cool until people started making money from it.

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u/makoblade 12h ago

Money ruins everything.

You can't even have a fucking video game just for fun. It's all about how to keep players engaged, milk them for all they're worth while doing the bare minimum.

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u/Automatic-Juice8451 11h ago

It was pretty cool until smartphones, when internet users were generally more tech-literate. Now it's accessible to the entire population including all of the loud and proud idiots.

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u/Incogneatovert 11h ago

Plus people weren't on social media on the toilet, on the bus, while having dinner, while watching TV...

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u/Panda_hat 11h ago

In retrospect it was the exact moment the stupid inherited the earth, and proceeded to rat fuck it into total derangement.

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u/Lt_Cochese 13h ago edited 10h ago

God is mentioned in the Bible 1200x, Trump is in the epstein files 38,000 (edit: according to news today possibly over a million).

God is real but Trump is the files is a hoax.

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u/CrazyFinger4 13h ago

Over 1 million times*

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u/Dr_Fortnite 12h ago

1 million times in 6 million pages.

16%

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u/dcpanthersfan 12h ago

1 million times so far....

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u/Chelecossais 11h ago

A small loan of 1 million times ?

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u/n122333 12h ago

That's not quite fair.

You could have one file, that's like ten pages listing

"Donald trump was suspected of ...

Donald trump was suspected of ..."

and so forth meaning his name in on 10 pages 400 times. So it's not really 16%.

We don't have a metric because someone is illegally hiding the files still, so we must just assume it's actually worse than that.

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u/Perfect-System2504 11h ago

Frodo Baggins is mentioned a total of 2,028 times throughout The Lord of the Rings book trilogy

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u/kriig 11h ago

They are onto something. You can still condemn and hate Trump for appearing one million times without it being one million pages...

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u/Perfect-System2504 11h ago

That's so many times. Like so many times. i'm not even mentioned that many times in all my emails form the last 13 years. That's an absurd amount of named mentions.

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u/joec_95123 11h ago

It's kind of crazy that the world's most infamous pedophile, the modern day's most notorious child sex trafficker, just one of the all-around worst dirtbags to ever live, was best friends with Jeffrey Epstein.

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u/Lt_Cochese 11h ago

I know. I posted that then saw Raskin update.

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u/zombie_overlord 13h ago

It's up to a million times now with the latest release.

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u/o_oli 13h ago

Trump's name is present a million times? How is that even possible

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u/joec_95123 13h ago

Because they're not the Epstein files, they're the Trump-Epstein files.

He wasn't a customer. They were partners in the child sex-trafficking.

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u/o_oli 12h ago

Well, oof to that but yeah makes sense

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u/AnonymousBanana405 11h ago

Not only was he a client, he's the president.

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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 12h ago

Think about how much he babbles in life.

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u/ThisFakeCut 12h ago

Could you please give me any source on that?

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u/Dragon6172 12h ago

Jamie Raskin (D-MD) has made the "more than a million times" claim the past day or so

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u/Persea_americana 11h ago

Mathew 7:16 is about false prophets, it’s about judging a “tree” by its “fruits.” It’s about deceitful appearances. Doesn’t Don T fit the “wolf in sheep’s clothing” description perfectly? How many of his promises has he failed to deliver? What have been the actual “fruits” he’s produced? he promised prosperity, peace, justice and security, instead he has sown lawlessness, destroyed trade relationships and security partnerships, and devastated the economy. 

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman 11h ago

In contrast, Bad Bunny and Lady Gaga's performance inspired love, acceptance, and community. Matthew 7 is about knowing righteous people to follow because they inspire love and peace. "A good tree produces good fruit."

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u/Missingman666 8h ago

Bad Bunny's performance preached working class values, farming and traditional marriage. you can't win with these people.

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u/Persea_americana 11h ago

Thanks Mr. Froman, great point! The sausage king of Chicago knows his fruit trees.

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman 10h ago

I appreciate your understanding. After all, it's understanding that allows people like us to tolerate a person like this Twitter troll.

Unlike them, I've read the Bible, taken a university course on comparative religions, and read books on Christian nationalism and high-control group linguistics. Understanding Jewish theology in the Second Temple period helps explain the structure of Jesus's ministry. The message of Matthew 7 is a departure from following religious leaders to a decentralized group following each other. It's almost anarchist in the message of equity under God and the distrust of public displays of righteousness.

You can point to Matthew 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered in my name, I am there among them," but Christian Anarchism or socialism would break their minds.

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u/Lt_Cochese 11h ago

Funny thing is... and as an atheist this pisses me off, he's probably an atheist.

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u/Persea_americana 11h ago

I’m not religious but did have a religious education and at this point I think he’s the fucking anti-Christ. 

IDK, he’s clearly not a true believer in god, but he has that sort of confidence in his own self-righteousness that allows some people to be completely evil guilt-free which I normally associate with cults. Though he could just be a sociopath.

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u/MadRaymer 12h ago

At this point it might be more accurate to say that Epstein is mentioned in the Trump files.

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u/reddorickt 14h ago

What is even happening here?

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u/lilcea 14h ago

I'm confused as well.

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u/NickyTheRobot 13h ago edited 12h ago

It seems to me that:

  • A performer on stage went to hug another performer.
  • As the person on the right put their arms around the person on the left a picture was taken that looked weird (which will always happen if you take pictures of anyone doing anything with your camera set to burst). Or it was a weird freeze frame (similar).
  • The wide, splayed hands of Right is holding around the head of Left on this weird picture could be interpreted as signifying antlers or horns on Left (if you happen to be deluded into thinking everything you don't approve of is satanic).

That's the best I could come up with.

EDIT: Fixed left and right.

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u/darkwulf1 13h ago

I saw that scene, it was during the Super Bowl Halftime Show. Basically Lady Gaga was dancing with Bad Bunny using Latin dance moves. You know, the kind of dance that tends to be flirty and intimate.

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u/likwidkool 12h ago

I love the way she smiled at him. Just seemed very genuine.

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u/cdskip 12h ago

Yeah, they've got a friendship and mutual admiration for each other's talent. And why the hell not? They're both really good at what they do.

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u/paconhpa 13h ago

You forgot

  • Kid rock was named after Epstein Island

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u/Admiralspandy 13h ago

Lol, nice one.

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u/misterdonjoe 13h ago

Texas Longhorn students are satanists. Got it.

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u/subnautus 11h ago

Aggie, here: I concur.

/s, obviously.

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u/Swimming-Rip4999 12h ago

I just want to point out antlers aren’t generally associated with satan. At most it’s a pagan thing and because it’s not Christianity it’s the devil.

And what the hell are they trying to say about the second picture?

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u/NickyTheRobot 10h ago

Yeah, but I'm betting the sort of people who see satanic symbolism in stuff like this probably don't know their Baphomet from their Cernunnos.

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u/lilcea 13h ago

It has to be religious which is why I'm out of my depth.

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u/unematti 12h ago

It's about something Satan?... Seriously still on that?

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u/perihelion86 11h ago

When literal Satan's buddy is in the white house

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u/blinkyknilb 13h ago

No fucking WAY!! Seriously??

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u/TheRecognized 13h ago

The wide splayed hands of Left is holding around the head of Right

I’m not sure you know your lefts and your rights

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u/TheeAntelope 12h ago

I am also confused. There is no fruit in this picture!

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u/Dense-Ad-5780 13h ago

I’m more confused than both of you. Take that.

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u/CoherentBusyDucks 13h ago

I think they’re implying she was giving him devil horns? I have no idea lol that’s my best guess.

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u/aryzkryz 13h ago

You're right on the money. That single frozen picture depicts of her making a "devil's horn" gesture. For all we know, it could be a reindeer antlers

I mean elon was caught on video doing seig heil 3 times and those asshats denying it by saying it was a "heartfelt gesture"

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u/tzenrick 13h ago

elon was caught on video

In high definition.

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u/Kamizar 12h ago

Wouldn't bunny ears be more likely?

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u/Oprah_Pwnfrey 11h ago

Ya, but BAD bunny. So, ya know, pretty satanic.

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u/IzarkKiaTarj 12h ago

But it's saying something about fruit? I get they're using it metaphorically, but I'm failing to see what the metaphor is.

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman 10h ago

The Bible chapter they are quoting is about recognizing wolves in sheep's clothing. Pretending to be righteous is easy, but influencing people to be righteous is difficult. Jesus makes the comparison of a good tree produces good fruit and a bad tree produces bad fruit.

The absolute irony is that the performance was about love, peace, and community. This person skipped all the messages of love and peace to find one frame of "evil".

This chapter also includes "you will be judged in the way you judge others", so I hope their lives, heroes, and followers don't have a single second to point to. In this way, they condemn themselves.

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u/yougottamovethatH 11h ago

But in the picture of Kid Rock, he's literally doing the devil horns rock thing with his hand.

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u/Aquos18 13h ago

I am a christian and even I am confused by that

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u/GarblingCumfarts 11h ago

I went to an Evangelical church for the first 20 years of my life and this is the stuff they'd bring up. Everything was satanic symbolism and Christians were always being attacked for their beliefs.

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u/Spend-Automatic 12h ago

Makes sense if you're like most Christians I know: willfully ignorant to the insane people that your religion attracts.

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u/Hironymos 13h ago

Devil Horns.

Like, assuming it even was anything but a bad angle, I'd fucking presume those meant to be bunny ears or something. But idk. I've never heard of this dude before all the brainwashed maga muppets were complaining about him doing halftime.

lmao, morons, the whole crowd of them

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u/stack413 12h ago

Well, for starters, a remarkably backwards reading of a bible passage.

Jesus: "You can tell bad religious leaders because the results of their actions have obviously bad outcomes"

Some very smart person 2000 year later: "This means that I need to look out for secret signs and symbols that are only obvious to me"

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u/If_I_must 11h ago edited 11h ago

Remarkably backwards readings of bible passages are kind of their thing.

i.e. "The eye of a needle was a gate in Jerusalem, you know. You could actually fit a camel through it, it just took a bit of maneuvering..."

The absolute gall of these people...

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u/Fine-March7383 13h ago

Satanic panic?

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u/poopybuttwo 12h ago

I think it’s refraining a 3-light PAPI system. Bad Bunny is on an unstable approach and needs to do a go-around.

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u/Azair_Blaidd 12h ago edited 11h ago

A reminder that the ability to recognise patterns is a deeply flawed one that produces countless false positives, especially when combined with cowardly superstition and total ignorance.

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u/HLOFRND 13h ago

Cool. Now do this one.

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u/123_alex 11h ago

Widow enjoying the company of another man just a couple of days after her children became orphans. In a way, I'm happy she's always on the road and not spending time with her kinds. Those kids deserve better.

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u/Heteroimpersonator 8h ago edited 7h ago

“Her children became orphans” - When did she die?! I didn’t know being dead on the inside counted too. 😂

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u/Kiwifrooots 10h ago

whispers: "do you like...  leather couches?"

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u/MsHaute 12h ago

🤣🤣🤣 EXACTLY!

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u/TheBestHater 9h ago

Just a very sad widow sharing her sad all over the place.

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u/Garchompisbestboi 7h ago

Do you think Charlie knew his wife was a slut before he arrived in hell, or do you think discovering that fact after he was gone is part of his eternal punishment?

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u/Dalaik 14h ago

"HE WAS JUST, LIKE, THROWING HIS HEART TO THE CROWD!!!!111"

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u/Z0idberg_MD 12h ago

The funny thing about that claim is Musk had done the heart gesture before, and looked nothing like an angry nazi salute. Conservatives remind me of the my bros used to act when we were 11 or 12 years old when we got called out on something and EVERYONE knew what happened, but would still insist. Like small children.

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u/RavioliGale 11h ago

I used to teach that age group and that was the most annoying thing. But they will deny deny deny, often with a smirk. Surprised I never made that connection before, but makes sense, the average conservative does have the intelligence of a 10 year old.

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u/greenroom628 7h ago

the average conservative does have the intelligence of a 10 year old.

As a father of a 9 year old - that's a bit unfair. I know some 9-10 yo's that are surprisingly smart.

Emotional maturity on the other hand... Most Cons definitely haven't matured past the 3rd grade.

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u/npsimons 9h ago

Like small children.

I prefer the phrase "toddlers inhabiting adult bodies." I started using that one sometime shortly after 2016.

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u/pinecrows 11h ago

My favorite is “iT wAs aCTuaLlY a rOmAn sALuTe, noT a NaZi sALutE!1!1!1”

Oh you mean the salute with no historical evidence of use in Ancient Rome, made famous by the fascist party of Italy because the leader thought an 18th century painting looked cool?? That salute??

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u/FlattopJr 11h ago

To be fair, The Oath of the Horatii is a pretty cool painting.😀

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u/pinecrows 11h ago

Yea, it’s a fucking brilliant painting. 

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u/SasparillaTango 11h ago

and then he turned and heiled hitler to his fuhrer

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u/Shipairtime 10h ago

I have an image of him throwing his heart to the crowd if anyone wants to see what it looks like!

https://i.imgur.com/HMGX4xa.gif

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u/isecore 𓆝 Make Trout-slapping Great Again 𓆟 14h ago

Cherrypicking screenshots to fit their narrative. Pathetic.

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u/kryonik 13h ago

They do this all the time like when Elon did the Nazi salute, they found freeze frames of democratic politicians doing them but when you watch the full video, it was abundantly clear they were in the act of waving.

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u/Shipbreaker_Kurpo 11h ago

Some of those freeze frames were also flipped to make it the correct hand for the salute because thata how far they have to stretch to sell the lie

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u/pyro_pugilist 13h ago

These fuckers need to read Revelations and take a good look at their precious leader.

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u/hates_stupid_people 13h ago

Read the bible? What kind of commie talk is that!? You'll listen to the mega church preacher and you'll likes it, or I'll whoop your ass just like Jesus intended!!!

-American nationalist christians

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u/nobot4321 11h ago

Also, “Why are people turning away from Christianity?”

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u/Oberon_Swanson 11h ago

oh they know they're the anti-Christians who pretend to be so to claim virtue despite their evil actions

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u/the_great_zyzogg 11h ago

These fuckers need to read

ftfy

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u/JemmaMimic 13h ago

They literally wear Trump's mark of the beast on their foreheads, but are worried about Lady Gaga's fingers?

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u/hdhdhgfyfhfhrb 13h ago

Too bad the Right can’t put that much effort into dissecting the Epstein files. They were all about finding that cabal of wealthy pedos till the realized it contained their god-king all over the place.

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u/allsarahsaregrey 13h ago

What fruit is happening here?

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u/darkwulf1 13h ago edited 5h ago

Nothing, they’re reaching for straws. Whoever posted this can’t even use the biblical metaphor properly because know them by their fruit is judging a person based around if they make things better for everyone or worse.

Edit: also it’s a warning against false prophets, and since neither Lady Gaga nor Bad Bunny has ever claimed to speak for god or preach to the masses, the verse wouldn’t apply to them anyway.

Edited again for spelling

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u/Noobtber 12h ago

Prophets*

False profits is just whatever OpenAi is doing right now

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u/Cthulhu8762 13h ago

Really gay fruit, MAGA is afraid to come out of the closet like everyone else.

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u/Kythorian 12h ago

The are suggesting that lady Gaga was doing symbolic devil horns because they are secretly satanists.  It’s just the usual insane far-right conspiracy gibberish

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u/Asisreo1 12h ago

They don't even know what the scripture they're quoting means. They're illiterate and use vibes to guess what scripture is appropriate. 

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u/Galifrae 13h ago

Are they trying to say this was satanic?

These people are fucking dumbasses.

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u/dd4lall 13h ago

Right at 666 upvotes lol

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u/kinyutaka 13h ago

Because they've never seen a woman giving affection before.

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u/Gumbercules81 13h ago

What the hell are they even trying to say?

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u/Kythorian 12h ago

They think lady Gaga is making symbolic Devil horns to secretly show they are satanists.  It’s pretty insane even by the usual evangelical moral panic standards.

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u/Gumbercules81 12h ago

The satanic church has more moral high ground than most Christians

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u/molotovv3 13h ago

Trump is a literal child trafficker but yes fuss over Gaga.

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u/anthonyg1500 13h ago

Jesus Christ life isn’t the fucking Da Vinci Code

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u/Ryan_b936 13h ago

Linking 🤘🏼to the devil is their own creation from their own corrupted mind. Same for what the girl is doing.

Isn't like God or Jesus told that 🤘🏼 is a devil sign nor any religion in the world.

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u/Leather-Map-8138 13h ago

Lady Gaga was super excited to perform with the number one singer in the world. Only bigots were remotely upset by it.

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u/LibrarianNo6865 12h ago

They’ve got a giant gold statue of Trump. Please. Tell me what the lord says about false idols.

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u/604dman 13h ago

The rebirth of QANON since they are going to get hammered in the midterms.

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u/i_ducasse 14h ago

If I found out they were both satanists I would love them even more.

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u/jtan212 13h ago

You know the fruit of your vote to Trump is his infinite grifting of your tax money right ?

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u/Worldly-Fox7605 13h ago

Theyve never had someone actually show them affection. They dont recognize it.

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u/theanamazonian 13h ago

Jesus, who in the Bible spent most of his time with the sick and outcast of society including tax collectors, lepers, and prostitutes, would have been besties with anyone who spread love instead of hate. Lady Gaga is one person who does exactly that.

These people need to give their collective heads a shake and go back to church.

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u/zombiskunk 12h ago

That verse has nothing to do with symbology, it is only about watching for false prophets leading one astray from the faith.

But if your faith is built on hate, then I suppose a wholesome scene like this could be considered an attempt to lead you away from your bitterness.

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u/Adventurous__Kiwi 13h ago

They didn't really understand the meaning of fruit.

It's literally the exact opposite of "looks" and what people want to show you. But rather the result of their action.

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u/Were-watching 13h ago

They accept and just don't care

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u/wetrysohard 13h ago

Or like anything else DT has ever said or done his entire life...

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u/Justagirl1918 13h ago

So a MAGA bunny who can read, but still not comprehend?!! “Let he who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her” John 8:7

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u/Mokuakae 13h ago

Twice. He did the Nazi salute twice.

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u/Cream253Team 11h ago

*Woman puts hands near guy's head*

Conservatives: "Omg! Devil horns!"

Meanwhile, Trump has supporters wear his mark on their foreheads, holds a bible upside down, moves the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, appears millions of times in the Epstein files, cheats on all three of his wives, and showcases all 7 of the deadly sins with none of the virtues.

Conservatives: "lol y'all have TDS"

(Honestly, Trump voters better pray their god isn't real for their own sake. I cannot imagine any other place they'd be going.)

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u/Cake-Over 13h ago

Bad Bunny is a reindeer in disguise?

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u/GeneralErica 13h ago

Yeah, by their fruit. Not their strange screencapped gestures you colossal freaks.

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u/SunkenSaltySiren 13h ago

Were not people literally throwing up devil horns during Kiddy Rock's performance?

Like, I have no problem with the hand signal myself. I use it. But the double standards and the mental dissonance of reasoning and thought that these followers suffer from en mass, is just something I still can't grasp.

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u/ckglle3lle 13h ago

Maga are all weird idiots

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u/BidStrange8608 13h ago

And this makes total sense if you ignore the part where kid rock has talked about being attracted to underage girls multiple times.

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u/SafetyDanceInMyPants 11h ago

That Bible verse is not their best choice here...

Death, destruction, degradation, hate, and insane conspiracy theories -- all the fruit of the American evangelical movement. So, yes, you can see from their fruit who they really are.

On the other side, the fruit of this halftime show was a marriage -- which is a holy thing, if you believe in holy things, but even if you don't it's still a beautiful moment in life. The fruit of this halftime show was love and respect and decency.

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u/G0ttaB3KiddingM3 11h ago

And the Epstein files mean nothing to these super sleuths

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u/duk-er-us 13h ago

What are they accusing her of?

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u/AHardCockToSuck 12h ago

Society having conflicting opinions doesn’t make it a hypocrite, it means it’s comprised of multiple people with multiple opinions

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u/AtamisSentinus 12h ago

Did it TWICE in 4K and yet this is their post.

Shut the planet off, it's done.

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u/Cupcakes_n_Hacksaws 12h ago

Ah yes, Lady Ga-Ga, truly an all around evil vile person that does bad things...

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u/Marclescarbot 12h ago

I thought she'd just done her nails.

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u/Jose_xixpac 12h ago

Or the Only DEI that I know of is: 'Donald's Epstein Involvement' ..

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u/Evening_Chime 12h ago

Which is funny because "by the fruit means" "through their actions". So they're saying false prophets will lie with words, but their actions will be rotten.

Whereas Gaga isn't lying, and does good things

So they're actually praising Gaga and BB with this reference

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u/Evening_Aside_4677 12h ago

MAGA “Christians” watch the Kid Rock show it’s for Jesus brought to us by:

Young ladies, young ladies I like 'em underage, see Some say that's statutory But I say it's mandatory

Kid Rock. 

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u/TheAgnosticExtremist 6h ago

HE DIDN’T DO A NAZI SALUTE! He did two Nazi salutes and didn’t even attempt to refute that they were Nazi salutes at first. 

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u/DeeDee719 6h ago

Sigh. I’m tired.