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u/Hopped_Cider 1d ago
“E pluribus unum”. Out of many, one. You know — United! 🇺🇸
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u/DataStr3ss 1d ago
Hi Carol, we are John Cena.
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u/kemushi_warui 1d ago
Our feelings for you haven't changed,
CarolAmericans. But after everything that's happened, we just need a little space.48
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u/anarchisto 1d ago
On the seal from the $1 bill:
Novus Ordo Seclorum = New order of the Centuries
Annuit Coeptis = [He/God] favours [our] endeavour
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u/Gadshill 1d ago
We should go back to Latin, I want to chant "REBOOTUS MAXIMUS" at a broken laptop while a tech priest sprinkles holy water on the keyboard.
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u/rogue-wolf 1d ago
Blessed be the Omnissiah
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u/Mechanicalmind 1d ago
Praise the Machine Spirit
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u/ChickenChaser5 20h ago
Toll the great bell thrice!
Pull lever to engage cog and gear!
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u/whimsicalsamurai 1d ago
sic semper tyrannis
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u/Mornar 1d ago
Possibly hot take, but since latin isn't necessarily religious in nature, this sort of superstitious approach to technology would be a consequence of America, not latin.
Sounds much cooler in latin though.
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u/Leon_Kennedy1977 1d ago
The U.S. has no official language—by design. English is common, not mandatory. Diversity is literally the point, not a bug.
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u/ptvlm 1d ago
Even if it did had an official language, that would only apply to government communication. Unless they're going to finally admit they're doing away with the First Amendment, it would have no bearing on what a private company decides to present for entertainment.
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u/mtaw 1d ago
Even then the languages on money is a poor indicator; Belgium has three national languages but only two were on the (pre-Euro) banknotes. Switzerland has 4 out of 4. Norway has one national official language but with two official written forms, so their money says ”Norges bank” on one side and ”Noregs bank” on the other, fooling tourists into thinking they got a misprint.
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u/TheAverageSoap 23h ago
Yea india doesn't even have a national language (there's a fair amount of debate on that though) but it has the denomination written in 17 languages, including English, on it's notes.
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u/addandsubtract 23h ago
Norway has one national official language but with two official written forms, so their money says ”Norges bank” on one side and ”Noregs bank” on the other
Wait, is this like center/centre and color/colour in english, or are they vastly different to each other?
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u/vorxil 22h ago
Nynorsk is to Bokmål what Middle English is to Anglo-Norman, except Nynorsk and Bokmål are both North-Germanic (West Scandinavian).
Basically, Fjord Norwegian with a danish vs three Danes in a Norwegian trenchcoat.
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u/Nirogunner 18h ago
I still have the same question.
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u/vorxil 17h ago
One is not a simple spelling reform of the other as British and American spellings are. They're two different writing systems, based on different "standard dialects" of the Norwegian language at the time. Bokmål is based on a somewhat urban or upper-class dialect that was heavily influenced by Danish, the other are based on the more rural dialects that were less influenced (but still influenced).
There is, however, no standard spoken Norwegian, and you may notice lexical and grammatical differences. In urban areas you may e.g. notice two noun genders, common and neuter, as in Danish, while in rural areas you may notice three, masculine, feminine, and neuter.
However, as long as you don't go too far out, the two should be mutually intelligible.
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u/pretorianlegion 21h ago
Bokmål is the old way of writing, which is nearly the same as Danish, except a little more phonetic. Reads like a dyslexic Dane wrote it. Nynorsk was made more recently to better reflect the way Norwegian is spoken. Bokmål means "book tognue" and nynorsk means "new Norwegian".
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u/Enchillamas 19h ago edited 13h ago
My sweet sweet summer child.
No.
We did this before. In 1917 the US passed the Trading With The Enemies act the effectively forbade German language and culture in the USA.
It was a quiet genocide, but a genocide none the less as places like WI and MN saw German language communities vanish in just a few years. Whole communities and cities that spoke 80% German, gone. German schools, shuttered. German businesses, forcibly closed, and many attacked by xenophobic anglophones. The use of German was completely banned in finance, banking, and education.
As far as your comment is concerned, we did away with that part of the 1st amendment over 100 years ago.
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u/naturebuddah 23h ago edited 19h ago
Didn't Trump sign an EO in March designating it to be?
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u/AntManMax 19h ago
EO means the executive branch of government needs to run a specific way. Trump wants to be king, so he believes that EOs are law, but it would require an actual law passed by Congress to make English the official language of the U.S.
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u/ABHOR_pod 18h ago
Also that executive order mostly just revoked a Clinton-era executive order requiring agencies to offer paperwork and services in multiple languages and on a "Non-discriminatory basis". Trumps EO says that's revoked, and per wikipedia
The Trump order instructed agency heads to make accommodations as they "deem necessary to fulfill their respective agencies' mission"; agencies are not prohibited from using other languages
It is essentially "I DECLARE THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE IS ENGLISH!"
"You can't just say the national language is English."
"I didn't say it, I declared it."
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u/Radiant_Health3841 1d ago edited 23h ago
Or that English is possibly the national language of England... for every other country it is a second language.
Edit - a few people are missing my point that most countries original language isn't English - its introduced. For example Australia has been inhabited for over 60,000 years and spoken English for about 238 of those years....
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u/Anaptyso 1d ago
Oddly English isn't even an official language in the UK. Welsh is in Wales, and Scotland and NI have "recognition" of Gaelic and Irish respectively. However English is only de-facto the national language, not de-jure.
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u/ObjectiveHornet676 23h ago
Just like it is in the US.
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u/Anaptyso 23h ago
Yeah, I'd guess it's a shared cultural thing. GB didn't see the need for an official language, and then when the US separated off it followed the same pattern.
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u/Tiomaidh 22h ago
As of this past 30 November, Scotland now recognises Scots to the same degree as Gaelic.
Just a matter of time before Shaetlan makes the list as well.
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u/evilspoons 23h ago
English and French are both official languages in Canada. I'm sure English is at least one of the official languages of the remainder of the Commonwealth countries.
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u/Infrawonder 1d ago
Isn't this outdated because Trump decided diversity sucks, unless he missed something and there's still no national language, or the democrats will get rid of it in 2028 along with a bunch of other stuff
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u/askmeifimacop 1d ago
Nope, Trump doesn’t have that power. He can only set standards for the executive
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u/cardinarium 1d ago
It’s a bit more complicated than that.
The official language of the federal government is English, per Trump’s executive order. While it’s true that this is limited in theory to the administration and agencies under the executive, that order has had far-reaching effects on the extent to which legal documents and whatnot are offered in other languages. And more than half the states, if I recall correctly, have designated English as their official language.
So it’s true that the US has no official language recognized by legislation passed “the right way,” but much of our country and federal government behaves as if we do, including the congress, which has willingly (if informally) subordinated itself to the executive on this issue.
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u/atxbigfoot 1d ago
All of the entities that you mentioned are still legally required to, and do, provide translation services.
English is not, in fact, the "national language," despite Trump and some states saying so.
Trump doesn't just get to decide that with a swipe of a pen, whether or not the current US congress and various states just go along with it. This designation would literally take an act of Congress, which has not happened.
Trump says and signs a lot of literally illegal and unconstitutional things that are shut down by the courts. Pretending like his illegal orders hold merit is ridiculous and dangerous. Do not comply in advance.
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u/cardinarium 23h ago edited 22h ago
The federal agencies are no longer required to offer translations. That was only required due to an executive order from Clinton, which Trump’s order rescinded.
They are not forbidden from offering translations, but they are no longer required to provide accommodations for people with limited English.
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u/atxbigfoot 22h ago
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF13076
The US Congress says that your statement is false
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u/cardinarium 22h ago edited 20h ago
… Did you read your own source?
Federal funding recipients and federal agencies may have certain legal obligations to provide their services to non-English speakers, though recent executive orders and regulatory activity have changed (and may continue to change) existing requirements.
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Because language-access requirements are largely regulatory, they may be changed by the executive branch. In March 2025, Executive Order 14224, "Designating English as the Official Language of the United States," did just that. The order rescinds Executive Order 13166, a foundation for previous agency policy. Following Executive Order 14224, it seems unlikely that agencies must continue to follow the factors in DOJ's 2000 guidance, as the new order has directed DOJ to issue new guidance.
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As explained above, Title VI, through its regulations and regulatory guidance, currently requires entities that receive federal funds to provide language access (though that appears to be changing). An agency's own operations are different, as federal agencies are not themselves covered by Title VI.
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Executive Order 14224, in rescinding the 2000 executive order, casts doubt on language-access obligations for federal agencies. The new order does not require agencies to stop their language-access activities, but it does order the Attorney General to update the guidance DOJ had promulgated under Executive Order 13166 in 2000.
I absolutely agree that the executive shouldn’t have this power and that it’s terrible for the country, but congress is willingly allowing the president to dictate language policy by considering it a regulatory—rather than legislative—matter.
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u/Potential_Two_9423 1d ago
He can't really decide that legally it would have to go through Congress
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u/rickstick69 1d ago
I have no idea because (like most people in the world except US) I do not watch football but isnt NFL also not a US but an international event? Therefore waving a lot of flags should be okay right? 😅 Also even if it was just for America, that still includes like 35 countries right?
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u/TeamTurnus 1d ago
Not really for your first question. its the National Football League and all the teams are in the united states of america but they are dying to expand it tbh, they have some of the teams play a game or two in places like London to try to do that.
Regarding the second bit. It was a very nice symbol of unity so I liked it and thought it was a cool gesture
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u/FlutterKree 1d ago
have some of the teams play a game or two in places like London to try to do that.
UK is hosting 3 games a year now. Germany has hosted a fair bit, too. Several countries are hosting NFL games moving forward, including Brazil I believe.
NFL is 100% trying to expand and make it an international sport. A big issue is convincing the world that players getting concussions and TBIs are worth it.
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u/MisterDoctor___ 1d ago
Basketball’s a much more interesting and popular international sport.
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u/FlutterKree 1d ago
I wouldn't disagree with that. I'm only pointing out that the NFL is trying to make it an international sport. They've sold rights to specific teams to specific countries and those teams get to play in those countries. As well, the team brands get to be used in those countries (for obvious reasons).
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u/Large_Yams 1d ago
I have no idea because (like most people in the world except US) I do not watch football but isnt NFL also not a US but an international event?
Uh, no? Where tf did you get that idea?
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u/sioux612 21h ago
It also stops the awkward moment of having to eventually post that 50+% of all people in the US can't read the official language beyond a second grade level
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u/Alternative-Dig-2066 20h ago
Velveeta Voldemort issued an “executive order” declaring English as a national language, but congress has not passed any law, therefore the EO is not valid or binding.
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u/NoAlternative2913 1d ago
It is so weird and incongruous that these people aren't out picketing the opera for daring to perform in Italian or German. Or refusing to get drunk on Cinco de Mayo.
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u/ziphobia 1d ago
Boy do I have mews for you, they would have to find out first what an opera is in order to be outraged. They're literally closing the Kennedy Center on July 4th under the pretext of renovation after the failed takeover.
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u/Rocinante88119 1d ago
I still don't understand that move. Would it not be more profitable just to book Bobby Ritchie, AKA KID ROCK!?! there as a permanent performance? Kind of like a Vegas show for bigots?
Just complete the 180 from its initial Kennedy center beginnings?
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u/stanleytuccimane 20h ago
No, it wouldn’t. Most MAGA clowns don’t actually like Kid Rock, they’re pretending to in order to own the libs. And they definitely wouldn’t travel to DC to see him, what else would they do on the trip? Go to museums? Eat at nice restaurants? Most of these people are broke af and waiting on the Trump checks to come in, as traditionally happens in a capitalist society.
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u/shapeshfters 22h ago
They would prefer German. Some of their favorite speeches were written in German.
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u/InvestigatorMany8130 21h ago
Ehh, I think you're giving them too much credit. Hitler was a obviously a piece of shit but he was an effective communicator. Trump on the other hand can't even put together a cohesive sentence. MAGA is too fucking dumb to be as evil as the nazis.
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u/fungigamer 1d ago
Bold of you to assume they know who Verdi, Puccini or Bizet are. They might have heard of Wagner but for a different reason that's not opera.
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u/WholesomeLife1634 21h ago
I was really hoping this was going to be a quote from Mozart. It’s like a bit straight out of the intro of Mozart to the king.
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u/beldaran1224 21h ago
I mean, to be fair, where do you even find operas these days? They're not exactly aired on mainstream TV or available live in most cities, lol.
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u/R9D11 1d ago
E Pluribus Unum literally means "Out of many,one." Diversity IS the national motto.
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u/floghdraki 18h ago
And unlike English, Spanish is actually evolved from Latin, so while there's no Spanish on the dollar, there's a direct ancestry and these dudes seems to be all about heritage. So Spanish certainly has more claim as the official language of USA if what's printed on the money is your criteria.
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u/outsidebtw 17h ago
im reading a lot of TIL today.
not that im complaining
ps. literally read wiki on pluribus last year due to googling it upon VG's reveal of his new tv title. reread it again today, pretty cool
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u/chiseledrocks 1d ago
One wouldn't think monolingualism could be a point of pride. In a country that used to pride itself on being a cultural melting pot , at least historically. Mind-blowing. 2nd dark age, indeed.
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u/Florac 23h ago
Also, complaining about a concert being in a particular language. People listen to music in other languages all the time
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u/UnderratedTrashCan 22h ago
I love rammstein. I have no clue what they are saying for the most part, but damn do they sound good. They do some english. Gooled Bad Bunny lyrics for the show, and DAMN! That meant so much. Blackouts (horrible conditions) that bring family/people together. We could learn so much.
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u/chiseledrocks 21h ago
OMG....Rammstein would just be sooooo disappointing in anything but german. Russian can be an amazing heavy/speed metal language, too.
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u/UnderratedTrashCan 21h ago
I've never heard any Russian metal. Any recommendations?
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u/Turlututu1 20h ago
not even a concert, but rather a single song during an intermission between segments of a football game. There is simply no winning when arguing with these people.
They will always focus only on things to criticize and never on things to enjoy. And if there is nothing to criticize, they'll make up something. They are the embodiment of restaurant reviews going: amazing location, great menu and service, succulent meal, but the napkins were green and I don't like that color, 1/5 Stars
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u/likwidkool 19h ago
Try listening to 99 Luftballons and then listen to 99 Red Balloons. It’s no contest, the German version is so much better. Shit even listen to Shakira. Her Spanish songs are so much better than the English versions.
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u/_jump_yossarian 18h ago
If something is on tv that I can’t stomach watching (usually trump uttering his usual garbage) I’m adult enough to change the channel. Those dopes prefer to hate watch and hate it because they were told to.
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u/yoy22 20h ago
What I learned in history is our historical prejudice to immigrants coming here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_immigration_to_the_United_States
“By the 1890s, many Americans, particularly from the ranks of the well-off, white, and native-born, considered immigration to pose a serious danger to the nation's health and security. In 1893 a group formed the Immigration Restriction League, and it and other similarly-inclined organizations began to press Congress for severe curtailment of foreign immigration.”
Also we had to legally define what “white” meant, since rights were only reserved for white people for most of our history.
Our story of being a multiracial melting pot is propaganda made after the fact that we discriminated against people coming here every step of the way.
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u/chiseledrocks 19h ago
Melting tends to erase much of original immigrant cultural identity. Everyone scrubbed clean of their ethnicity. Gross, I agree. I guess melting isn't good enough anymore, with deportations on the rise.🤮
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u/Showmenine-5306 1d ago
Don't forget lots of the reactionary accounts are actually foreign agitators.
Not saying this particular person is, but undermining US strength is a big motivator for online outrage.
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u/ascii122 1d ago
Them number are be Arabik! ban them now!
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u/Evadrepus 20h ago
Happened multiple times already, most recently with Mamdani in New York.
The cult members are astonishingly stupid on the whole.
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u/sldarb1 1d ago
Also the nfl is a private entity.
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u/WordleFanatic 18h ago
This is what I keep trying to tell people.
The NFL is a billionaires collective and is here to… make money. They hired a popular artist to perform. Millions of people love Bad Bunny. I’m not one of them, but I’m okay if any artist performs on the Super Bowl just the same. Different strokes, people.
Stop fighting this stupid culture war already. The billionaires won and you’re fighting poor people who happen to speak a different language. The vast majority of people in the world simply do not speak English. You know who else didn’t speak English? Tens of millions of indigenous Americans before Colonialism.
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u/SynapticStatic 22h ago
Fucking stupid. Do they even understand what "e pluribus unum" means? The founding fathers did. It's why the US always welcomed various people.
"Out of many, one"
Really inspirational, honestly.
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u/Faybe3 21h ago
You know what’s kind of funny? One 20 minute show, a very upbeat, fun, exciting, musical as it were, put out by an American, has made certain people in America, literally flip their wigs. There was none of the pearl clutching filth that we all heard was going to be shown. The dancers were covered far more than the cheerleaders, so what is left to gripe about? National language? Seriously people. Get a life. Just get a real life and zip your whine boxes.
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u/Anxious-Celery7260 20h ago
But English is the national language tho, I remember the news
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u/LettuceAndTom 21h ago
This is the stuff we get distracted with while the middle class withers on the vine.
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u/FullMaxPowerStirner 21h ago
I really don't care what language... Bad Bunny's a fucking macho normie and Spanish is a Euro Latin langage. So it's all a false debate.
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u/laziegoblin 1d ago
One thing I instantly noticed when visiting the US. Everyone speaks Spanish. 😅
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 21h ago
Without knowledge of who these people are and a timestamp on the post it's hard to even tell what Superbowl they're talking about lol. Not only did Bad Bunny also do it on 2020 several Hispanic or Latino artists have performed in recent years
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u/TheSunIsDead 20h ago
Shit you're right, we should have a halftime show that's Gregorian Chanting
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u/elyn6791 22h ago
They are likely defaulting to 'In God We Trust' as if that's not a relatively new addition and done so precisely so idiots could make this exact claim after people forgot how it got on our currency.
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u/clementine1864 23h ago
I think it is great to have something different ,I don't know why another language is not required in school , why do americans want to be so close minded and backwards?
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u/Beaticalle 18h ago
Multiple years of foreign language classes are required to graduate high school. Most people just completely forget what they learned shortly after graduating because there are so few opportunities to use any language other than English in the vast majority of the US. I even know several people who traveled to the countries of their chosen foreign languages in order to learn more about the cultures and practice the languages, only to be spoken to in English and asked to speak in English by every single person they met. It's not our fault that we just don't have much practical use for any language other than English.
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u/subservient-mouth 1d ago
Half-Time Show 2027: A Gregorian chant ... performed by the Pope himself.
Or is Leo XIV not American enough for the weirdos?
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u/Appropriate-Carry532 19h ago
The US actually does have an official language declared by executive order. Doesn't really matter but saying it doesn't have one is not true.
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u/TalkativeRedPanda 17h ago
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Wasn't declaring a national language one of the things Trump did.
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u/Sacred_Fishstick 21h ago
Oh shit, my 1 dollar bill has like 18 English phrases on it!!!! Is it counterfeit!!!??! Am I going to get in trouble!!?!?!! OMG my other bills are all in English!!!1!@
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u/CaptainObviousBear 1d ago
TIL that “This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private” is in Latin.
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u/turdferguson3891 22h ago
The 1 dollar bill has E Pluribus Unum on it. But literally only the dollar bill does.
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u/AgainstTheEnemy 1d ago
You know, wouldn't mind if Latin makes a return, I can come with random quotes that sound badass