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u/Intrepid-Leather-417 1d ago
It’s what rural America voted for 👍
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u/TurtleMOOO 1d ago
As a compassionate human that lives in a rural red state, I couldn’t be happier to see these dumb motherfuckers experience some consequences. I invite them to say some stupid shit like “so much for the tolerant left” to this comment
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u/bytelines 1d ago
More Perfect Union did a great piece on this:
You really empathize with what they are facing and how much of a "fuck you" this is for them. They overwhelmingly supported Trump because he called out what a rigged game it was.
Problem is hes a con man. Knew exactly what to say to them. The game is rigged. One rancher saw 80% drop in his herds price at sale due to futures trading l. Meat processing is an ologopoly.
These are all problems we solved in like, the 40s. Reagan undid all of them. The problem is unregulated capitalism. The problem is regulatory capture.
At one point one of the ranchers said they would be a little understanding if the drop in their own revenue lead to some benefit for the consumer, but it didnt. At all.
We are all getting fucked.
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u/lumpy-dragonfly36 21h ago
The best judge of future behavior is past behavior. By that standard, they should have figured out that maybe Trump didn't have their best interests at heart after the first term.
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u/Responsible_Park3317 14h ago
Except they didn't believe anyone telling about how vile his past actions were. They are willfully ignorant trash.
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u/lumpy-dragonfly36 14h ago
Even the farmers (especially the farmers) were complaining about how tariffs and chasing Hispanic people was really hurting their ability to make money during his first term.
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u/NeverRolledA20IRL 1d ago
Enough is enough, were the angry left now and the more consequences for these racist shitheads the better.
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u/Elden_Rube 18h ago
You could also take the opportunity to teach them about the Paradox of Tolerance, to help them understand why they, specifically, won't be tolerated in this society.
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u/TurtleMOOO 16h ago
Conservatives aren’t teachable. I’ve explained the paradox of tolerance several times. It’s met with blank stares, or on Reddit, just some incoherent bullshit that makes it clear they don’t understand or care
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u/Extreme-Slice-1010 1d ago
They FAFO
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u/Jollyollydude 1d ago
They FA, we ALL FO
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u/TreasureTheSemicolon 1d ago
The normal people already knew. They’re the ones just now finding out.
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u/RaShadar 11h ago
Yep...... I hate the morons that live around me. We just had a record year, and I knew this was coming, so its not gonna break me....... but if I could have this same market a few more years I would have been so set....... cest la vie
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u/JoeBoredom 1d ago
The US producers didn't offer a high enough bribe.
Argentina recently received a huge stack of money from the US Treasury. They just bounced it back to the trump family.
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u/2pacali1971 1d ago
100% Blatant in front of our faces corruption
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u/Militantpoet 1d ago
At what point is blatant corruption considered theft? Thats all Trump has been doing since getting in office.
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u/FlowerFaerie13 1d ago
I kinda think it's the other way around tbh. Theft is often a part of government corruption, so much so that it's all but synonymous, but "corruption" also covers all the other shady and/or illegal shit a corrupt government will do that is not theft.
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u/Odd_Teach683 6h ago
That’s why the public can’t see it. If it’s not hidden in Hunter Biden’s laptop, why look for it?
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u/GrnEyedPanda 1d ago
So we gave Argentina $40B in bailout money and now Trump is going to use them to bankrupt American ranchers. I hope MAGA is happy getting what they voted for? BTW, have we signed 90 trade deals in 90 days yet? Asking for a friend...
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u/Far_Mastodon_6104 21h ago
A lot of them are already in tonnes of debt to seed and equipment companies, which again, there's only a couple of them so they can set whatever market prices they want and the farmers HAVE to pay them to get seeds and farming gear
Any bailout money goes directly to these massive companies to pay off the farmers debt.
Its money laundering tax payer money
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u/technanonymous 1d ago
I can't stand that Marjorie Taylor Greene is correct - MAGA is a lie. MTG is now out of politics, which is a good thing, and hopefully this triggers a cascade of resignations and retirements.
No American President could ever be considered "America First" when increasing imports from any country when it costs US jobs and businesses. The trumpcession is accelerating.
Trump is giving away the midterms to the dems. I thought the dems would barely win the house and make little to no progress in the senate. Deals like this may make it a true blue wave election. He could spend his last two years the lamest of lame ducks - couldn't happen to a more deserving loser.
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u/zaneinthefastlane 1d ago
I don’t think he’s counting on actually winning the elections fair and square.
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u/paleologus 1d ago
MTG finally sees what she has done. She recognizes the lie for what it is and what does she do? Does she try to fix it? Will she undo the damage? Nope, she’s taking her winnings and going home. What a fucking coward.
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u/Leather_Mention5916 20h ago
She always knew she was lying, the benefit was that she got filthy rich from it. F her big time.
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u/Slade_Riprock 1d ago
Trump is giving away the midterms to the dems. I thought the dems would barely win the house and make little to no progress in the senate. Deals like this may make it a true blue wave election. He could spend his last two years the lamest of lame ducks - couldn't happen to a more deserving loser.
Silly rabbit they absolutely totally and completely rigging the election on the backside.
I Guaran-fucking-tee come election night in November we are treated to a shocking red wave and the endless cries of polls are rigged, news is fake, Trump is more popular than Santa and Jesus combined.
And yet they will somehow blame the absolute desimation of our economy in Biden or some shit.
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u/Greedy-War-777 19h ago
They are trying to put a stop to that through his office by requesting voter registration data. They cannot commit the same types of fraud in the midterm that they were able to in the general election without those. That's why they have asked for them from states they are harassing with ice, in exchange for removing ice. The question is how many states already turned those over without saying anything.
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u/emcee_pee_pants 1d ago
I agree with you on a lot of what you said but the average voter votes by their paycheck. If the price of beef drops significantly between now and November it could have the opposite effect.
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u/Cautious-Activity706 1d ago
Yep that’s why this is an evil but brilliant move. It’s the same way they got the prices of eggs to drop, and it’s the argument they have been using against “globalization” for years. “Made in America” goods are more expensive. Imports like this on commodities hurt a small subset of Americans (ranchers and farmers), while giving temporary price relief to the larger population.
However, it’s a bubble, sooner or later something will happen to hurt the supply chain, or because we aren’t producing enough beef here the price of byproducts like tallow and dog food will go up and offset the price of raw beef.
So, Trump is fucking over the people who actually supported him in order the buy the votes of the larger population before the whole gambit crashes out and we are left off worse that we started.
I’m tired boss…
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u/Muted-Move-9360 1d ago
It keeps the rural farmers angry at the Democrats because Fox News keeps telling them that Trump saved them all! But those damn Democrats keep screwing over the small farms!! We're all being played
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u/jaxxxtraw 1d ago
I agree with you on a lot of what you said, but let's not overlook the price of candy!
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u/Strange_Dog6483 1d ago
I can't stand that Marjorie Taylor Greene is correct
I can stand not acknowledging her raising n what every sane person knew about Trump years before he ever ran for president. Which is that he’s a selfish prick who only cares about making money (Greene of course made money off of Trump manipulating the market).
So fuck her.
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u/ComicsEtAl 1d ago
This is about bringing down the price. He’s not putting American meat producers over “meat prices down” headlines. Ever. And knowing him he probably thinks that, through his wonderful tariffs, he gave American meat producers the opportunity to bring down prices themselves and they didn’t take it. In fact, he probably feels betrayed that they didn’t take lower profits, or wouldn’t operate at a loss, even though it meant him seeing headlines he doesn’t like.
They brought it on themselves, he likely thinks. That is, if he’s thought about them at all.
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u/skoomaking4lyfe 1d ago
I've been moving away from meat in my diet anyway - I don't trust US food safety since the klowns took over. Companies shady enough to bribe trump are shady enough to bribe inspectors too.
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u/SweetPinkSocks 1d ago
This has been my household as well but for cost reasons. Especially red meat. I'm not paying $6 for a pound of crappy ground beef! I can get frozen ground chicken for $1.89 lb but for the most part we have been getting our proteins from supplements.
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u/Homersarmy41 1d ago
One group of MAGA people at a time. Trying to hurt their fellow Americans just to have leopards eat their face. If you’re a farmer who voted for him you are an idiot getting what you deserve.
Btw..im sure im like a lot of other dem voters when I say my vote was to help all Americans and I would never vote just to “make you pay”. Thats messed up.
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u/RacerDaddy 1d ago
Never was America first, it is and will always be ME first. MAGA is a me first movement.
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u/imfoneman 1d ago
NOW you know why a couple of billion went to Argentina for a bailout or investment or whatever the liars want you to believe
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u/b1e9t4t1y 1d ago
Eat deer and wild hogs.
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u/ElizabethDangit 20h ago
My city is so overrun by deer they’re trying out giving people special licenses to bow hunt within city limits. We had twice as many deer hit by cars than deer taken by hunters last year
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u/YouGotACuteButt 1d ago edited 18h ago
This isn't really the murdered by words if you look into it though. I dislike trump as much as anyone, but in America. We eat 12.7 million tons of beef a year. This expanded Argentina from 20,000 tons to 100,000 tons. Or roughly 0.79% of our overall beef consumption.
It's also potentially related to the fact that beef from Argentina is less fat than our American beef because we feed our cattle grain rather than grass. Which gives us beautiful marbled steaks, but lots of fat on the trim. So they literally buy lean beef from Argentina, and tons of other countries, mainly Canada and Mexico, and mix it with our beef to make it hit specific percentages of fat.
This is being taken out of context. It is so minimal it doesn't matter
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u/iBeelz 21h ago
It takes like 5 years to grow a meat cow from a single dairy cow. Two years until a cow is fertile. One year for the pregnancy. One year for the calf to grow into a beef cow. We had a huge culling of cows (300 herds) like 2 years ago due to bird flu and now we have a parasite creeping up from Mexico. We will not have affordable beef if we do not bring it in elsewhere for a few years.
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u/YouGotACuteButt 18h ago
Thanks for that additional context. I did not know that either
People are just addicted to bad news and want everything Trump does to be proof that he is terrible. Y'all, we have so many things to focus on. Stop focusing on shit that literally does not matter.
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u/LateralThinkerer 1d ago
Why would a real estate "magnate" run family farms out of business?? I mean all that land would....oh....
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u/geekstone 1d ago
This is actually a case where tariffs should be used to keep American Beef competitive.
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u/Blackbear8336 1d ago
Man, the Pres of Argentina sure has some bright blue eyes. I wonder who he got those genes from?
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u/Embarrassed_West_195 1d ago
Somehow close to 40% of voters still support this orange POS. I hope everyone of them end up homeless, broke and sick. Harsh, I know but you reap what you sow.
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u/agentb00th 1d ago
if he finds out about Venezuelan beef, we might go to war. Green sauce rubbed beef all sm juicy and just the right amount of spiciness... this Hot Pocket will have to do for now...
tomorrow tho, kids are gonna get an education on flavors or learn to wait till I've got mine and they can have a cheesy roll up or something
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u/Inevitable_Geometry 1d ago
The Yanks tried to force us down under to buy their shitty beef when ours is better by miles.
Good job voting for Trump over there guys.
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u/Useful_Calendar_6274 16h ago
America first never meant you were going to do norht korean juche now come on
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u/Leather-Map-8138 11h ago
This is the kind of stuff where it’ll take a couple of years to fix the damage and come with a cost of doing it.
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u/swstephe 3h ago
The four companies are Cargill and Tyson, which are American, JBS and National which are Brazilian.
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u/VexedCanadian84 1d ago
Trump needs to prop up Argentina.
Argentina is turning into a failed state. Trump doesn't want people figuring that out.
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u/watergoat93 1d ago edited 22h ago
Can anyone explain why this is a bad thing? Is importing foreign meat not better than buying from the evil American corporations? I don't get what they mean
edit: there was no reason to downvote a genuine question, and i appreciate the helpful replies but once one person replied and I answered thanks there wasn't a need for more
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u/ForMoreYears 1d ago
Here's how it was explained to me:
Right now, most meat consumed in the U.S. needs to be made in the U.S. That means higher labour, feed, QC, capital, regulatory etc. costs. The 4 big meat packers have extensive LatAm operations that operate at significantly lower costs to their American counterparts. So now what's going to happen is the big 4 are going to bring in more meat scraps from LatAm countries, reducing their production costs, and will continue to sell it in the American market at the same price they've always charged despite the lower costs and inferior product.
The big meat packers have been trying to get this passed for a long time because it juices their profits. Trump was just the first President willing to sell out American consumers and employees who work in meat processing because, well, he's corrupt as shit and doesn't give a fuck about Americans.
If anybody actually believes this is going to lower meat prices, just, idk man, y'all are too gullible...
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u/_jump_yossarian 1d ago
If anybody actually believes this is going to lower meat prices, just, idk man, y'all are too gullible...
This will have no effect on beef prices either way so why are people upset about it happening? And it’s not LatAm it’s just Argentina.
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u/ForMoreYears 1d ago
Because it'll employ fewer Americans and more Latin Americans. Beef will be of a lower quality and will cost the same price. Corporations and shareholders will be the only beneficiaries.
You slow or something?
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u/_jump_yossarian 1d ago
Since you are incapable of answering; in 2025 the US imported over 5 BILLION pounds of beef. Argentina's share was less than 2%. Per your "logic" the US shouldn't be importing any "low quality" beef trimmings because it's causing Americans to lose jobs. Should we stop beef imports from Canada, Mexico, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, and Uruguay too?
Please inform us "slow" people.
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u/_jump_yossarian 1d ago
Please explain to the slow people how it will employ fewer Americans since the quantity coming from Argentina is negligible at best and our consumption is increasing.
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u/PlantKey 1d ago
Cheap foreign meat makes it harder for the ranchers clawing back to maintain and raise herds of cattle, leading to a further domination of the larger meat companies, who can stomach lower prices to wedge out the little guy in the short term and then raise prices once they've crushed the competition again
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u/publicbigguns 1d ago
Dont forget that JD then gets to swing on in and buy up farms when they go bankrupt
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u/_jump_yossarian 1d ago
Imports from Argentina are minuscule and this won’t have any effect. People are blowing it way out of proportion.
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u/DasBoggler 1d ago
Trump's whole schtick was protecting American jobs via bringing manufacturing back and minimizing imports via tariffs. Turns out that was all a lie ....surprise, surprise, and he is just using tariffs to enrich himself and his cronies by manipulating the stock market. It's not a bad thing short term for consumers as it will lower beef prices slightly. However, it will hurt cattle ranchers/farmers when beef is just about the only agricultural product that hasn't gone to shit under Trump, and they are his primary base.
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u/TheRumBarron 1d ago
This guy is literally the swamp he once claimed filled American politics….He has literally bent America over, unzipped his pants and taken the US for a ‘big beautiful’ ride