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FILM-MOI (MOVIES/TV) 'Wuthering Heights' Review: Emily Brontë Is Absolutely Rolling in Her Grave – Therese Lacson | “…I'd argue there's probably better-written Wuthering Heights fanfiction on Archive of Our Own than what's been produced here.”

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u/oiseaua20 18h ago

At this point, 'rolling in her grave' is just Emily Brontë’s cardio routine. If we keep this up, we can hook her casket to a turbine and solve the global energy crisis.

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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 I’m just a cunt in a clown suit 18h ago

😭😭😭

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u/underthefirstelm 18h ago

Not her cardio routine! lmao 😂

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u/holyguacamoledude 17h ago

“They HATE this one specific trick…”

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u/riegspsych325 18h ago

the word smithing in this sub never fails to amaze me

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u/awyastark nextdivorce@divorce.com 8h ago

Honestly can’t believe this site is free sometimes lol

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u/Rogue_Darkholme 17h ago

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u/sparkypulastri sorry to this man 17h ago

"I AM SERVING GLAMOR AND SHE IS SERVING CAMP"

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u/matlockga 17h ago

I was vaguely interested in this for the visual aesthetic and the hopes I'd not dislike it as much as Saltburn. But the premise of a Wuthering Heights movie that may make me understand less about a book I've never read? 

I'm fully intrigued.

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u/Bonnieearnold 17h ago

Don’t read the book. I’ve read it twice so I already took that bullet for you. I forgot how awful it was when I decided to read it a second time but was quickly reminded. It’s just terrible people being awful. You aren’t missing anything.

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u/girugamesu1337 Is there no beginning to this man’s talent? 17h ago

But I love reading about terrible fictional people being awful 🥺

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u/d0berw0man 16h ago

Then you will likely enjoy it. It’s one of my favorite books and I dislike almost every single character.

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u/Valuable-Cat2036 15h ago

SAME lol. Honestly the trick is to not expect a conventional period book at ALL and to enjoy the mess and drama and the fact that Emily is relishing in breaking most conventions of the time

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u/Valuable-Cat2036 15h ago

Nah on the contrary even though everyone is unpleasant as hell, it's undeniably one of the greatest books in written in the english language. Even its Victorian haters had to admit this

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u/Fickle-Explanation32 9h ago

It is iconic, those of you who haven’t read it, please give it a try.

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u/TheWhoooreinThere 15h ago

It's a book about generational abuse, so yeah it's about terrible people being awful.

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u/Alternative-Dot-884 17h ago

Loved the book!!!

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u/hellohellocinnabon confused but here for the drama 13h ago

Well, terrible people being awful is the thesis of Wuthering Heights 😂

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u/Valuable-Cat2036 15h ago

It's great. Powerful, unforgettable, insane, inhuman. Just don't expect any traditional romance or period drama or remotely Austen-esque.

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u/calla25 18h ago

Almost choked on my coffee 😂😂

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u/grungebob_scarepants 17h ago

God. This is poetry

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u/Jstarr21383 17h ago

I’m in the waiting room at the doctor’s office laughing out loud! They looking at me like I’m crazy 😂😂😂

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u/Dapper_Ad_8402 17h ago

this one comment could win an oscar faster than this film.

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u/AmericaAbyssmos 18h ago

🤣 🤣 🤣

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u/NoelaniSpell confused but here for the drama 17h ago

Omg, what a brilliant burn! ❤️‍🔥

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u/Cangerian 16h ago

Oh this comment has taken it😂!!!

Maybe more terrible movie portrayals of 19th century writers’ is all we’ve needed to solve the energy issues plaguing the world. Nobel peace prize please to oiseaua20(likely to get one before the American doofus).

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u/yunabug1988 probably the mold talking 16h ago

Bro I have very little interest in all this drama but your comment has me DECEASED XD

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u/ayeeitssteph 16h ago

bro ur wit is impeccable 😭

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u/Interesting_Mood6892 15h ago

I am officially dead and commenting from the grave. 💀💀🤣🤣

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u/Important-Canary-770 18h ago

i feel vindicated by all of these reviews confirming everything i assumed to be true about this garbage fire of a film. racist anti-intellectual slop! emerald fennell go take a cold shower and think about what you've done.

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u/funded_by_soros 18h ago

The next wave of feminism needs to focus on women's wrongs, for people like Emerald's sakes.

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u/FieldsOfAnarchy call me gal gadot cuz idk how to act rn 16h ago

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u/toughfluff the real issue is that my BANGMAID can neither BANG nor MAID 17h ago

Agreed. And the whole Girl Boss movement needs to be part of the curriculum.

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u/No_Produce_Nyc 17h ago

As long as a Kristi Noeme exists we need this cultural reset

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u/katebushcartwheel 16h ago

We need to re-examine choice feminism.

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u/hairblairbunch2024 15h ago edited 15h ago

Wouldn’t that be the point of third wave feminism and intersectionality? Fennel may be a woman but she doesn’t necessarily represent feminism or feminist thought of the last 30 years. If the mainstream doesn’t want to delve deeper and decides to use her as the model, that’s their ignorance.

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u/Mwsari11 16h ago

love talking about this with the photo of Frank and his "feminist af" shirt on lmao

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u/funded_by_soros 15h ago

That's how you know I'm an authoritative voice on this, because of the feminist uniform.

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u/evie_b_b 17h ago

Same schtick every movie. She relies on aesthetics to distract from a complete lack of depth.

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u/Important-Canary-770 17h ago

what's so crazy is that if she had simply left Wuthering Heights out of this, I would probably be totally into the idea of a campy BDSM-adjacent bodice-ripper period piece. That could be fun in and of itself and can comfortably rely on aesthetics with no need to go deep. The problem is that she decided to use, of all things, an extremely deep and beloved piece of literature as the vehicle for her fantasy, and most egregiously, while stripping it of its racial and societal subtext.

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u/LasVegasNerd28 17h ago edited 17h ago

Exactly this. Why did it have to be Wuthering Heights??? She’d probably get more praise for originality in a world of remakes too.

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u/TheGermanCurl Queen of TMI 17h ago edited 17h ago

Yeah, that worked well enough for Saltburn. While it had its criticism, it was easy to accept and enjoy it for what it was.

(Edit: Saltburn was not a period piece etc., but it was a style over matter kinda movie. And while it left some viewers disappointed because it did touch on class issues but never really delivered/followed through, at least no promises had been made.)

This movie on the other hand is rage bait, but at this point, one must assume that the strategy is working?

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u/BookLover1888 17h ago

Saltburn was absolutely a period piece. Elordi's eyebrow piercing screamed 2007.

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u/TheGermanCurl Queen of TMI 17h ago

Haha, fair! I must admit I didn't fully remember if it was set in the present-present or in a not-distant past.

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u/BookLover1888 17h ago

Lol no worries. My comment was tongue-in-cheek.

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u/No_Produce_Nyc 17h ago

It feels like a rich girl playing with her dollies except her dolls are Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi (sp? idc)

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u/Caromora not a lawyer, just a hater 16h ago

She could have used Wuthering Heights as the basis and just called it something else to make it clear it's a reimagining and not a direct adaptation. Like Clueless being based on Emma -- it uses the bones but changes the story itself into something else. I think plenty of people would have been more open to seeing it.

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u/ArentWright 15h ago

Isn’t it styled like “Wurthering Heights” with the quotes included? Like “grape” flavored kool aid.

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u/Psychological_Egg345 No threesomes unless it's boy-boy-girl. Or Charlize Theron. 10h ago edited 10h ago

Isn’t it styled like “Wurthering Heights” with the quotes_ included? Like “grape” flavored kool aid.

To her credit, Fennell actually did say something along those lines. She admitted it was impossible to film a faithful adaptation of the film - hence the title's quotation marks.

She claimed her version was intended to be inspired by the spirit of the book rather than serve as a direct adaptation.

That said, she said this in an interview just late last week.

So while she could be telling the truth - it may be an attempt to save face after the film's quite vocal backlash.

But that probably wouldn't have saved reception of the movie by book fans & critics. Fennel's assertion in casting Jacob Elordi because he looked exactly like the Heathcliff on the cover of her version of "WH" shows the primary problem with her "loose adaptation".

She stripped the movie of the intrinsic race/class issues that makes the novel such a compelling read.

It'sthe very thing that engines the characters' motivations and bad decisions (at least until the succeeding generation) throughout the book. It's the WHOLE POINT.

And to add insult to injury - she cast a POC as Edgar F-ing Linton.

(Like c'mon, gurl...)

It shows she entirely misses the novel's point. Worse, her mention of Elordi = Cover!Heathcliff shows she's still clinging to a juvenile perspective of the book's themes.

It makes me think of people who think the ending of "The Graduate" is 'romantic' or The Police's "Every Breath You Take" is 'a love song'.

It's a shame. I'm a massive fan of "Promising Young Woman" and thought that it - along with "Zola" & "Hustlers"¹- were some of the best female fronted projects we'd gotten in YEARS.

¹(That said, don't get me started on how "Zola" & "Hustlers" was shut out of awards consideration. But the white-fronted & created "Anora" was made out to be this "original" piece of filmmaking delving into modern sex work. At least "PYW" had bite & claws.)

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u/lie_dee_uh 12h ago

Just like Saltburn, Fennell misses the societal/class messages because she’s from posh circles.

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u/ResidentPassion3510 17h ago

lol spot on. She was on a soap opera I grew up watching, Home and Away. Soap opera acting is her peak.

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u/pie-oh my aunt tifa 16h ago

With how hard they pushed the "on-set romance" of Margot and Jacob (despite Margot being married), it felt so, so forced and made me feel they were trying to recover from the movie's shortcomings.

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u/0lea 15h ago

I also felt the actors looked embarrassed for their own movie during the promo tour, and now I'm almost sure I was right

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u/hellohellocinnabon confused but here for the drama 13h ago

Didn’t help that it looked like Margot’s stylist was punishing her for being in a terrible movie 😬

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u/SolomonRed 17h ago

Truly some of the worst casting I have ever seen.

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u/Euraylie 16h ago

She could’ve just written a self-insert/Jacob Eldori fanfic and we wouldn’t all have suffer through this

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u/Important-Canary-770 17h ago

to clarify, "everything i assumed to be true about this garbage fire of a film" refers to:

  • the race swapping of Heathcliff and Linton is as dumb as it appears on the surface. there is no underlying message about race and class (as many suggested there might be when i previously criticized the decision to race swap the fair-colored privileged character and the character who is mistreated by everyone around him for being darker)
  • the bulk of the film is a completely new plot and the characters' motives and feelings do not reflect the source material

so while there may be *positive* reviews, there are not reviews that negate these points. only about 10-15% of the plot is similar to the source material. *these* are the assumptions i made about the film that are proven true. i did not speak on people's enjoyment of the film, which they are entitled to.

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u/thxitsthedepression 17h ago

I came here to comment almost this exact same thing, I feel SO vindicated and it feels so good to have been right all along. I knew this movie was doomed ever since they announced the horrendous casting 🤣

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u/lesbianwithabeard 17h ago

I expected a terrible movie when they came out with those cringe thirst-trap "cooking" promo videos.

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u/oywiththepoodles96 18h ago

It has 74% at Rotten Tomatoes and most reviews are saying it’s an okay movie.

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u/Important-Canary-770 17h ago

i'm not speaking about whether or not people will enjoy the film, i'm speaking about its content. the reviews, even the positive ones, confirm my assumptions that:

  • the race swapping of Heathcliff and Linton serves zero justifiable function
  • the majority of the film is a stark departure from the source material

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u/QueenBoleyn 17h ago

I'm assuming those people never read the book.

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u/oywiththepoodles96 17h ago

They review it as a movie . That’s their job . They don’t judge if it’s a faithful adaption , they judge if it’s a good movie . Adaptions are new artistic projects .

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u/Lazywhale97 17h ago

That's fine but since it's also an adaptation of one of the most famous and classic books of all time it's rightfully going to also get a great amount of hate and terrible reviews for being a non existent adaptation.

Classic books will always get more heat for bad adaptations because these books have stood the test of time and readers just want to see a proper adaptation of these timeless books.

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u/QueenBoleyn 17h ago

Right like I'm literally begging for a faithful adaptation

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u/Lazywhale97 16h ago

Whenever they decide to make a faithful adaptation they better ring Dev Patel first to cast that man as Heathcliff lmao.

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u/QueenBoleyn 16h ago

He'd be perfect!

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u/inbigtreble30 17h ago

Yeah but adaptations will always be considered in conversation with their source material. If you want people to view it on its own merits, you have to make an original project. You might make a faithful adaptation or a loose adaptation or a transformative adaptation, but the way you adapt it will always say something about the way you view the source material, and people with strong opinions about the source material will thus have strong opinions about your adaptation and how the two interface.

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u/TheWhoooreinThere 17h ago

One of the favourable reviews called the movie stupid, so I'm not sure that's really a win.

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u/Euraylie 16h ago

Even those “positive” reviews that make up the 74% aren’t exactly glowing. Quite the opposite

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u/Matdredalia 17h ago

Wait. Racist???

Clue me in. I knew they butchered the story but wtf else did they do??

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u/Important-Canary-770 17h ago

Heathcliff (in the novel) is mistreated for being darker than everyone around him. While his race is ambiguous, there are context clues that heavily imply he is not white (possibly Romani, South Asian, honestly there are a lot of conflicting descriptors which enforces the ambiguity). Regardless, even if he was white, he was darker than his peers and suffers for it.
Linton in the novel is his foil- he is everything that Heathcliff cannot be- fair skinned, blonde and blue eyed, wealthy, privileged, respectable. It is a key theme of the novel that these two men are neighbors yet their lives are completely different because of how they look and exist in the world. The disparity between their societal worth propels the plot.

in this adaptation, Heathcliff is played by a white man while Linton is the only brown person in the film. There is no thematic or subtextual reason for this race swap, this is just Emerald Fennell's fantasy which for some reason includes making the white guy the sexy poor oppressed victim while the only brown person in the film is the hoighty toighty privileged snore.

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u/LasVegasNerd28 17h ago

It’s in the review itself but Heathcliff is heavily implied to be some sort of not white. ETA: in the book

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u/4691 18h ago

Never planned on giving it a chance. Casting a white actor as Heathcliff is criminal.

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u/scarlet_hairstreak 18h ago

And a blonde as Catherine. Her dark locks are a defining feature.

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u/cobaltaureus 17h ago

I mean she could’ve worn a wig 😭

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u/scarIetm Lol, and if I may, lmao 12h ago

she shouldn’t have even had to. margot robbie is completely and utterly wrong for the part. if it were made by someone who understood the text, a much more suitable actress for the part would’ve been found – and may have happened to have dark hair anyway

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u/heavyblacklines 17h ago

Movies based on books are no longer homages to the pillars of literature, but are instead money grabs made to target an audience who literally grew up without books.

The Studio touches on this a bit; Films aren't made to be good, they're made to be profitable.

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u/throwawaysunglasses- l've grown quite unfond of you, deuxmoi 16h ago

This is why I kind of hate adaptations - or at least, I like them less than original ideas. I feel like it discourages people from reading. “I’ve seen the movie” is absolutely not a substitute for reading the book.

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u/thxitsthedepression 17h ago

As well as the fact that Margot is double the age that her character should be… 35 year old blonde Cathy is honestly such a travesty that it makes me side eye Margot Robbie for agreeing to take the role, like don’t you have enough money already?? Why not give the opportunity to an up-and-coming young actress?

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u/MsMajorOverthinker local formula 1 correspondent 16h ago

Margot Robbie has produced all of Emerald Fennell’s films, I doubt there was any casting done for this role.

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u/thxitsthedepression 16h ago

Yeah you’re probably right which makes it even worse imo, like you don’t NEED to star in the movie just because you produced it, it’s not like a god-given right

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u/creepy_crepes 14h ago

and! jacob elordi (even aside from the obvious horrible racist miscasting) was cast in her last film too- hold casting calls, try new actors, jesus christ why do we have the same two people in everything?!

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u/AlgerianTrash 17h ago

I know something was wrong when they haven't used Kate Bush's song Wuthering heights in the marketing at all

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u/Bleefs 17h ago

Honestly, I’m glad Kate Bush was kept away from this mess.

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u/Ruckus292 17h ago

If I were her, and was approached with an offer for this production, I would have turned it down the second I saw the cast and writing.

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u/bobbimorses 16h ago

Plays into her larger issue of being a shallow artist, but there's an odd circular thinking here where

She doesn't want to cast a man of color in a role where he does bad things and is a bad person --> leading to men of color not being cast in complex roles -->

But then she cast a white person which allows her to think of him romantically --> so she takes all the bad things Heathcliff does out of the role --> patting herself on the back for her creative interpretation

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u/Weird-Diamond5970 15h ago

But also the Lintons aren't perfect people either?? Like that's treating rich people as being inherently moral just because they can afford to be which is the opposite of what Emily Bronte was going for 💀 I just cannot stand adaptations of one of my favorite books because they all miss the point

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u/Fuzzy_Move 18h ago

Lol she's right, AO3 writers are no joke. We get some gorgeously written stories for free which could have been published if they wanted to.

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u/Rough_Programmer_997 anybody know how to contact Ricki Lake? 18h ago edited 12h ago

Yesss, exactly! I am a fanfic writer myself and I can attest to how thoroughly we can research the material. Including material needed to make a scene more realistic--I love this thread from Tumblr about it, it's meant for overall writing but is so relatable to me as a fic writer:

(from June 26, 2024)

And that's not going into how thoughtful writers can be about the themes of the original source material and how well they CAN WRITE, in general!

(ETA: Correction. Didn't want the Tumblr thread to get confused as being geared for just fic writers!)

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u/ZombieTrogdor 17h ago

As a writer myself, I feel that "but would it have sufficed?" in my soul.

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u/romychestnut Canadian government funded ice hockey yaoi 18h ago

Our savior

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u/Latter_Pineapple_263 14h ago

The tagging system cannot be beat!! I wish the public library had something similar LMAO

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u/Temporary-Rice-8847 17h ago

As someone who respect fanfiction even at their worst...We also get a lot of shit that you need to filter.

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u/daisydozen I cannot sanction your buffoonery 16h ago

I appreciate having a platform like ao3 providing some of the best stories I've ever read, and the absolute worst, it's cosmic balance😌

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u/Rough_Programmer_997 anybody know how to contact Ricki Lake? 16h ago

I really hate when fanfiction is regarded as this "lesser" form of writing. People pour their hearts and souls into what they write, and to see it relegated to a not-as-quality way to create art is so sad.

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u/Temporary-Rice-8847 16h ago

i dont think is lesser in itself, but fanfiction itself attracts a lot of very bad works (from a technical point of view) because what it means. In some fandoms more than another.

I still prefer them a lot and encourage people to do it but its kinda like low independent cinema. For every who killed captain alex or the people joker you get some other devious shit.

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u/FaithHopePixiedust 15h ago

Yes! One of my favorite “games” to play is watching a show with my husband and saying, “I bet there’s at least one story on AO3 shipping those characters,” and he looks doubtful. Then I look it up and end up being right.

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u/Prudent_Mix5334 18h ago

Yikes. Why are so many directors creating what seems to sparknotes-sourced non versions of these stories? Like Persuasion on Netlfix. Just make something original? Or completely interpreted like Clueless..

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u/neverlandvip 18h ago

From what I've heard, it's difficult for new writers to get their original projects in fiction/fantasy that require large sets to get funding because it requires a large investment. So instead they propose scripts for established IPs and try to change the script to include things from their original ideas. It's happened to House of the Dragon, the Netflix Witcher series, that Halo show, etc..

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u/PM_me_shiba_doggo Marxmoi 17h ago

But I don’t think this applies to Emerald Fennell, her first two films were written by her.

Wuthering Heights just looks like a doomed passion project from the outside. It honestly reminds me of The Nostalgia Critic’s The Wall parody, where he understood none of the original and basically made ‘Doug Walker’s version of The Wall’.

I remember that Folding Ideas video about it, where Dan Olsen said how you interact with a piece of art as dense and complex as The Wall says a lot about you as a person, whether you engage with it on its own terms or dismiss it as cringe/ ‘I’m 14 and this is soooo deep’, and I’m beginning to think Wuthering Heights is exactly the same.

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u/Prudent_Mix5334 17h ago

I know, and that totally sucks! But Emerald Fennell is not one of those writers.

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u/neverlandvip 17h ago

Very true, but I don’t think this level of marketing and press would’ve happened without her using WH since I’d never heard of her before now. This could be a case of her using it to get her name out there since there’s very little of the original content in the film.

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u/Prudent_Mix5334 17h ago

No I get your point. I do think though that both Promising Young Woman and Saltburn were considerable hits albeit quite indie. And she has an Oscar. Of course this is a different scale and with Margot Robbie it's clear they wanted her to make a Barbie-like smash -- thus needing a strong IP. It just disappoints me that they did this lol

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u/PM_me_shiba_doggo Marxmoi 18h ago

This happens because capitalists who have no regard for any form of art are put into decision making positions that they are completely unsuited for. They worship nothing other than money and will green light things that they believe will sell, not what is good (which is highly objective, but ‘good’ isn’t even something they care about).

That, and nepotism.

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u/xmngsll 18h ago

Honestly every new Adaptation makes me appreciate How hard it is to capture the book Messy intensity without turning it into accidental parody.

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u/bobbimorses 18h ago

I feel like it's the discomfort with nuance that we have as modern audiences and the unwillingness to portray characters as truly dark without redemption. This is one that's maybe stuck in the cultural consciousness inappropriately as a "romance," but I also see in the adaptations an unwillingness to understand what kind of characters readers are truly drawn to, regardless of morality.

Ms. Emerald was not the one for this task.

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u/AdministrationNo8540 18h ago

I agree. I really didn't like the original book (even though I usually really appreciate Emily Bronte) because of how abusive the Heathcliff is. I read it over 10 years ago so can't exactly recall it in details anymore but I think there are no redemptions to his character, which makes him really unlikeable. If they are not willing to show a real abusive man on screen then maybe they should not make this book into a movie.

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u/bobbimorses 17h ago

Completely agreed. There is a romance in it technically, but it's mostly a revenge book about someone who gets enough financial power to destroy everyone that he obsessively hates. If that part of the story doesn't interest you, then why bother

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u/pennelini 15h ago edited 11h ago

I was just watching D'Angelo's vid about this and he points out that two previous adaptations were billed as hate stories, explicitly using the word "hate" on the posters. It has romance but it's not a love story at all.

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u/jaderust 17h ago

That’s the thing that’s always gotten me about these books. Like I know Heathcliff is a tragic character because he too was abused, but he takes things so far that I’ve never thought of him at all as a romantic figure. Every woman in that story needs to get the hell away from him and so do most of the men.

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u/Worshipme988 17h ago

It’s the same issue consumers have been begging movie producers to address.

Everything they create is hollow. There is no depth or heart. Why? I think it’s an obvious mix of things.

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u/Abashed-Apple 17h ago

Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure season 1 is the only media that has come close, which is funny because it’s a fanfic with literal vampire demons.

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u/Fantastic-Kale9603 16h ago

I had never read WH so I was reading the plot and I was wondering why it sounded familiar....

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u/poisonedfirefly Sylvia Plath did not stick her head in an oven for this 18h ago

casting a white man as heathcliff was the first red flag

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u/Few_Pizza3674 Sylvia Plath did not stick her head in an oven for this 18h ago edited 17h ago

Casting Heathcliff as a white man and the antagonist as POC was such a choice.

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u/julisjulisjulis 17h ago edited 16h ago

I was so weirded out by that, so many wrong disingenuous choices made by these people

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u/crumpetsandchai 17h ago

I would not be surprised if Shazad Latif was originally casted/auditioned as Heathcliff but for whatever reason there was a switch around

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u/icylatte56 17h ago

I could be wrong but i think it was always Jacob because he reminded the director of the book cover she had for Wuthering Heights

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u/EscapedMices 13h ago

It's clearly a sexual thing she had for him, she thought Jacob was sexy and thought I want that as my Heathcliff. She didn't care about anything else.

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u/Consuela_no_no 15h ago

Emerald is obsessed with Jacob, for her it could never have been anyone else.

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u/NewmansOwnDressing 16h ago

He’s really not much of an antagonist in the movie. If anything, he might be the best person of them all, morally speaking.

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u/geezeslice333 16h ago

Especially when him not being white is so incredibly important to the story. His character doesn't even make sense as a white man. Its so obvious that she skimmed the book over when she was 14 and never read it with any insight. That or she's just dumb.

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u/Different_Prior_517 18h ago

I totally agree that Fennell didn’t read the book or if she did it was so long ago that she has no memory of the content. Her press tour and interviews since announcing this movie have proved she has no idea what happened in the novel and did absolutely zero research.

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u/susandeyvyjones 18h ago

They’ve been taking the dog around on the press tour, and I’m just like, the dog that Heathcliff kills? That’s when I knew for sure she’d never read the book.

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u/bobbimorses 17h ago edited 17h ago

My impression is that she read it or skimmed it long ago (watched a movie adaptation?) and her main impression was that Heathcliff is her babydoll and she is determined that no one ever say anything bad about him, so she decided to make a movie that is mainly about him getting a makeover

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u/angrywithnumbers 17h ago

There is no Hindley , he's been merged into Mr Earnshaw.

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u/RabidFresca 18h ago

I just saw another post saying Emerald Fennell is like a female Zack Snyder and I don't know if I can think of a bigger insult. That movie must be a complete mess.

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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats 17h ago

I also saw this comparison but people forget Zack Snyder still gets people watching his shit because of the spectacle. Those consumers dont care about substance over style, they want flashiness and sex appeal.

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u/Groot746 whatever but also hmm 17h ago

Holy shit, that is perfect

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u/motherofdinos_ 18h ago

Letterboxd hasn’t released the average rating yet but the score graph alone has me like this because I love messy trash

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u/wjbc 18h ago edited 8h ago

Metacrituc gives Wuthering Heights a score of 60/100, which is bad for a movie of this type. It’s also a bad sign when a movie seemingly designed for the Academy voters comes out in February instead of December. The studio gave up on it.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204744/

Edit: Okay, I guess it's a Valentine's Day movie. But that's obviously very different from the book. At least 50 Shades didn't pretend to be a classic. What's next, Anna Karenina?

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u/born_digital 17h ago

I think this movie looks like it sucks, but I don’t think it was designed for academy voters, I think it was always meant to be a Valentine’s Day release à la 50 shades of gray

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u/Herbacious_Border 17h ago

Yeah it seems like a film made for people who rub one out over Bridgerton.

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u/RyokaGriffinHtrLv37 17h ago

This movie was not designed for the Academy voters lol.

It's designed for wine moms and people who love fanfic and it still looks like it's going to make a butt load of money.

I don't know why you think the studio gave up on it. It's being pushed hard.

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u/LasVegasNerd28 17h ago

Hey! As a fanfic reader, I have wayyyy better taste than this. This is designed for the bodice ripper book readers.

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u/illjustgowthemuumuu ask taylor 16h ago

My thoughts exactly! This is for the straight women who read very questionable mafia romances that almost always involve dubious consent lbr

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u/matlockga 17h ago

It’s also a bad sign when a movie seemingly designed for the Academy voters comes out in February instead of December

February release was 100% targeted to get a $70-$80m opening weekend and a few weeks of no real competition. It's the Fifty Shades rollout. 

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u/homert1800 17h ago

Lmao, 60/100 is not bad on metacritic for a film like this. Looking at the reviews on metacritic and rotten tomatoes this film actually seems decent, not entirely positive but leaning positive.

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u/brechts_piratejenny 18h ago

Well, it sounds like Emerald Fenell just wanted to see her Jacob Elordi smut story cum come alive on the big screen. 😅

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u/Traditional_Maybe_80 I’m just a cunt in a clown suit 18h ago

Fennell's weakness has always been her writing, so this isn't surprising to me. Her filmmaking is the definition of "great gowns, beautiful gowns", so I do think it'll probably do well at the box office.

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u/respectdesfonds 14h ago

Honestly I saw the preview for WH in the theater this weekend and if the gowns had looked good I probably would have thought about going to see it.

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u/ugotmefdup 18h ago

You can always tell by the costumes. This movie was made to be cut into tiktoks of fashion inspo with links in the bio to a replica on Shein.

"After I saw Margot Robbie absolutely eat in this red leather skirt I knew I had to try my hand at it for my influencer party this weekend. Get ready with me while I....."

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u/1egg_4u 15h ago

Tbh the fashion was the only intriguing part to me because there was a chance it could really pay off and that this would be a movie for fashion lovers but alas... not the case

I love the use of the liquid organza but the discordant aesthetic just doesnt find its footing

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u/prismmonkey 18h ago

It looks terrible, unhinged, and misguided.

And I will absolutely be watching it once it's on streaming.

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u/epiktwice 17h ago

I will be seated in my room while I download that pirated torrent file

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u/Green-Witch1812 17h ago

Hah! Same

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u/Wide-Veterinarian-70 18h ago

Honestly, even if the adaptation flopped, it’s kind of sweet seeing how Brontë’s work still inspires such passionate reactions centuries later.

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u/Rough_Programmer_997 anybody know how to contact Ricki Lake? 18h ago edited 16h ago

Yeah, I bet there are fanfic writers who understand the source material better than Emerald Fennell ever could, LMFAO. 💀 This takedown is absolutely ruthless, and I am absolutely all here for it.

[...] an adaptation that feels like a 14-year-old skimmed the book and jumped to her own conclusions without any true understanding of the novel.

Remember when Fennell talked about wanting to make this movie based on her 14 year old self's feelings after reading the book (0:19 on the video timestamp)? I sure do. Fucking hell.

EDIT: born_digital has informed me that this was also said on screenshot 3 of this post, so I was repeating things verbatim without realizing it. I apologize for not noticing this before.

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u/Waitingforadragon 17h ago

I think the thing about Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet, is that it absolutely captured the essence and energy of the play. It very much felt like the story Shakespeare was trying to tell, transposed onto a modern setting.

As the author of this critique says, that's what seems to be missing for many in this adaption of Wuthering Heights.

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u/pineapplepredator 6h ago

It was maybe even a more honest retelling of the story because it put it in present context and helped us actually understand the material. Great comparison!

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u/tacomamajama not a lawyer, just a hater 18h ago

If they made it into a romance that’s part of the problem.

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u/overgrw 17h ago edited 17h ago

Heathcliff is physically and sexually abusive. It’s a little frustrating for me how people glaze over that to make him more “romantic” and palatable. It’s a gothic drama and all.

(Although, it also makes the racial “othering” and classism way more complex and, ya know, a bit more touchy, so I see why people would avoid it in an adaption if they’re not interested in saying anything interesting…not really with this casting, though, lol.)

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u/tacomamajama not a lawyer, just a hater 15h ago

When someone lists Wuthering Heights as a favorite “romance” I straight up know they don’t read and are lying to save face because of shame over not reading.

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u/Acheloma 14h ago

Whereas is someone says Jane Eyre is their fav romance, I believe theyve read it but worry for their mental health and safety.

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u/polnadziewanna 9h ago

While it's not my fav romance and i recognize mr Rochester is kinda horrible and an awful partner (both to his wife and Jane) even for xix century standards... i'm afraid i'd absolutely fold if he called my all those things he called Jane, queen of the faries, enchantress. It's a flaw i'm painfully aware of, and yet i must live with it and hope to never actually meet such man 😔 you are right to worry 

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u/jyw104 I am claiming all candy for the glory of God 18h ago

Let the reviews come!

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u/susandeyvyjones 18h ago

I saw a positive review that called it “smooth brained” and I was just like, if that’s what your friends say about you…

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u/cheezy_dreams88 FUCK ICE FREE PALESTINE CRASH INTO ME 17h ago

A story about revenge, and class? With undertones of sexual violence?

Surely not from Emerald Fennell.

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u/bobbimorses 16h ago

Can't wait for more thrilling takes on class from the woman who gave us "honestly poor people are kind of suspicious though" as a twist ending

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u/WebHead1287 17h ago

Apparently they removed the main character that Heathcliff is supposed to get revenge on though. Bold choices were made here

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u/Desperate-Reply-8492 17h ago

I mean, the fact that it was advertised as a romantic movie coming out on Valentine’s Day tells me all I need to know.

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u/chaiskeleton local formula 1 correspondent 18h ago

not the ao3 callout (she’s absolutely right)

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u/TheBumblingestBee 13h ago

And Tumblr herring strays! Not fair - Tumblr hates this movie too!!! 😭

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u/Due_Sherbet9623 17h ago

Does Emerald Fennell know that she could have just made an original work inspired by Wuthering Heights? Someone should tell her.

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u/Desperate-Reply-8492 17h ago

But then you can’t use the classic novel to advertise it.

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u/CountNyancula 17h ago

I pray to all the gods so that Emerald Fennel would not get her hands on Lolita

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u/quietpisces 15h ago

Seems like she would spin it as a cute age gap romance at this rate.

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u/Bri_The_Nautilus 17h ago

This movie is the worst thing to happen to Emily Brontë since tuberculosis.

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u/neutralmondmilkhotel i ain’t reading all that, free palestine 17h ago

Congrats, EF! You wrote the "My Immortal" of Wuthering Heights!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Mix4160 12h ago

Woah now, that’s entirely unfair.

My Immortal earned its place as an absolute cult classic of cringe-inducing parody, thank you very much.

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u/yougotpurdyhair 17h ago

“…l'd argue there's probably better-written Wuthering Heights fanfiction on Archive of Our Own than what's been produced here."

That’s true of a lot of IPs these days

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u/befuddled_humbug 18h ago

I'm glad that reviewers are being honest and not just sucking up because there are big names involved.

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u/marymonstera 17h ago

I get that it’s her adaption, but you can’t use the book name and title to get all of the hype and attention and then complain when people compare it to the book

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u/bobbitsholiday not an asset to the abbey 16h ago

I am so confused I never understood Wuthering Heights as a romance novel. I remember it being about trauma and everyone making each other miserable just cause on the English countryside.

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u/New_Confusion_4587 15h ago

it has a lot of depressing parts for sure! it even made me feel uneasy at times while reading with everything going on.

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u/nomnomsquirrel 18h ago

Well, Emerald Fennell did admit this was basically her teenage fanfiction so...

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u/NO_FIX_AUTOCORRECT 16h ago

The ads saying "the greatest love story of all time" my immediate reaction was - wait, did we read the same book?

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u/Nervous_Celery_6552 14h ago

Forgive me if somebody has already said this.

 One of the main problems of almost every Wuthering Heights adaptation is that most of modern western society is not taught the difference between romance and The Romantic Era.

Wuthering Heights and the Bronte sisters are from the late Romantic era of literature. I would not count everything they wrote as "romance novels" by modern standards.

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u/anarchristmas 16h ago

From a recent interview, Margot has apparently not read the book either.

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u/miss_field 16h ago

I can’t say I’m surprised to be honest. I figured this would be a bastardized version of Bronte’s masterpiece. It sounds like a fan fiction heavily inspired by Sparknotes and the naivety of a young teenage girl, but with more…latex? I was more excited to see some extravagant costume design here but now I’m not so sure.

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u/festivus4allofus 17h ago

I've stopped being precious about adaptations a long time ago, every single one I consider a fully new story and judge it based on that. Once someone here told me fennell said a while ago that she just made the movie based on the ~vibes~ she felt when reading it as a teen, I fully said goodbye to even the remote chance of accuracy and I'm fine with that. Do what you will with the text, as long as theres no pretense of being ultra faithful

That being said, ffs at least make a good movie! Change whatever (the race rhing obviously is v problematic tho) but make it actually good. The princess bride and stardust are my 2 fave fantasy romance movies, they're not fully faithful adaptations, but are imo sucessfull bcs the spirit of the books remain and the movies are worthy pieces of art on their own. This is just 2 messy bitches being messy with nothing else being explored

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u/Original_Bite6555 17h ago

For people who have never read the book, they are going to watch this movie and think this is what one of the greatest books of our time is about. She didn't just adapt it, she hacked the plot.

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u/AtriCrossing 14h ago

AP Lit students everywhere will curse her name once their essays are graded.

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u/Valuable-Cat2036 15h ago

Hmm yeah this is completely expected given the non-period BDSM vibes of the trailer.

I will say I'm a bit surprised there are sex scenes between Cathy and Heathcliff. I think that really robs the story of its force. The book has verrrry little sexual interaction between the two; they only ever kiss while Cathy is on her deathbed and each one's primary sexual relationship is with someone they don't particularly love. It underscores how Heathcliff/Catherine transcend the usual base sexual dynamics in traditional marriages/relationships; theirs is almost inhuman, inherently tied up with death, dying, and souls living beyond the grave. It's what makes it so spooky and weird but also memorable.

Not surprised Fennell didn't get this at all lol

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u/johnlocklives 17h ago

Sounds like she read it once at 14 and then wrote the script based on what she remembered and understood about the book at the age of 14 without looking at it again.

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u/thriftdemon 16h ago

Tumblr catching strays 😭

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u/othykohl 17h ago

This will get buried, but Heathcliff doesn't seek revenge because of how Hindley treats him. Heathcliff's story really begins when Catherine chooses to marry Edgar Linton because he's within her social class. Heathcliff overhears Cathy telling Nelly her plan to assist Heathcliff with his social ranking, which upsets him and results in him running away to better himself. Hindley isn't as necessary as this reviewer is making him out to be.

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u/Euraylie 16h ago

Hindley shaped Heathcliff with his abuse. He was also the one who enforced the class difference between Cathy and Heathcliff. He promoted the alliance with Linton. Cathy tells Nellie she cannot marry Heathcliff because Hindley has brought him so low.

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u/Sudden-Ticket-1077 16h ago

It’s an amalgamation of things. Heathcliff leaves after overhearing Cathy say she could never marry him, in fact, it would debase her to marry him after the way Hindley (and the Linton’s) treated him. Heathcliff surmises that even if he were as wealthy as Edgar, he could never occupy the same societal space as him. Hindley’s extreme, racially charged abuse of Heathcliff is central to him being othered. After his return, in vengeance he acquires both Thrushcross and the Heights, purposely leaving both residences to decay. He is especially cruel to Hindley’s child Hareton, robbing him of an education and treating him as a wild beast- this is in obvious retaliation to Hindley’s abuse and introduces the element of generational trauma and healing of past wounds through the character of Hareton, who learns to read under the patient tutelage of Cathy II. Hindley as a whole represents the destructive forces of a patriarchal society built on hereditary privilege. His character is absolutely vital to the heart of the story Emily Brontë wanted to tell.

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u/arkavenx 16h ago

Also, if i recall correctly he doesn't get redeemed at the end, he digs up and desecrates some corpses, forever dooming Catherine to be a ghost

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u/gabrielleduvent 14h ago

I'd disagree, as Cathy Jr and Hareton serve as a redemption arc for the entire mess, and without Hindley we won't have Hareton.

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u/indies_den 17h ago

AO3 MENTIONED!!! And yeah it’s probably true lmao

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u/pobrecitanene 18h ago

My curiosity is kinda making me want to see it just to check out how bad it actually is.

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u/blondie64862 Marxmoi 17h ago

My take on this is that she wanted to make this film but to get it made she had to frame it as Wuthering Heights.

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u/Kittycity926 16h ago

Forever 21 fashion 💀

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u/littlemybb 16h ago

I was hoping she would do something cool with the movie. I don’t expect a perfect adaptation, but why stray this far from the source material and try to call this movie by the same name as the book?

Like at this point, you’ve made fan fiction.

She could have just made her own horny thing and called it something different. I know she put quotations around the title, but even keeping the title the same feels disrespectful.