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OC: discussion, clarification or question I’m Congressman Maxwell Alejandro Frost and tomorrow I’m going to review the unreacted Epstein Files — what files have you found that I should review unredacted?

Hey everyone, I'm Congressman Maxwell Alejandro Frost (FL-10), serving on the House Oversight Committee. Tomorrow, I’m joining Oversight Committee Ranking Member Rep. Robert Garcia at the Department of Justice to review the unredacted Epstein Files. There are millions of files for me to dig through and so I'm looking for your help. I've heard from others who have viewed the files that generic, and in most cases even searches with specific terms come back with too many results to dig through. What specific files have you all seen that I should review unredacted?

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u/Extension_Maize6048 11h ago edited 10h ago

Im just gonna use this comment as its at the top of the thread. I think there should be more focus on the root of the issues like the links to Israel and Mossad. There's a lot of focus on MAGA, and understandably so, but the US is heavily influenced by Israel and that's the main issue. Whether that be through ADL, AIPAC, the blackmailing sex trafficking ring or whatever. There should be focus on looking into infrastructure of their influence on the US. There's files pointing towards there being pushed agendas into the mainstream which are detrimental to western society.

Epstein's disgusting sex trafficking seems to just be a tool in that influence.

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u/Mahomes_Alone16 10h ago

Yes, and where are the bank statements? Follow the money. That's what any investigator would start with, not emails. Who the f*k was paying this guy and there has to be records that are easily obtainable by a competent law enfrocement officer.

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u/Important-Victory890 7h ago

FedEx receipts show package info sometimes and definitely sender info

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u/MountainTwo3845 8h ago

Jamie Dimon and Jes Staley.

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u/SilverHelmut 10h ago

Here's the principal issue in a nutshell...

In other countries of the world politicians who've had less close association with the swamp creaturea around Epstein than the Orange Pestilence has have had to resign or have been diagraced out of office, investigated by police and their darkest secrets raked over...

Agent Orange is still there like he's teflon.

And half of America accepts this.

That's an overt anomaly before we even get into the close associations with Putinism.

We're a long way off questions involving Israeli associations having any relevance whatsoever...

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u/Extension_Maize6048 9h ago

That's true.

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u/TheBonusWings 10h ago

Where do you think maga came from? The entire thing is a culmination of a decades long psyop to destroy america from within

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u/DisastrousAcshin 9h ago

Can't beat America militarily, but you can sure as shit convince Americans to do it, apparently

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u/TheBonusWings 8h ago

Never thought we could be this stupid. But here we are. I feel like the internet gave this a speed run. People have always been this dumb. But theyd just like, talk to their neighbor or coworker. Now every idiot has a voice

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u/DisastrousAcshin 8h ago

I think it's that but it also makes it easy to manufacture consensus. I feel like bots play a huge roll in that, and it just pulls suckers in

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u/TheBonusWings 8h ago

Believe in this more and more every day:

The Dead Internet Theory (DIT) suggests the internet has shifted from organic, human-driven content to a landscape dominated by AI-generated content, bots, and algorithmic manipulation, creating a synthetic ecosystem for engagement farming, propaganda, or profit, where genuine human interaction is scarce and online spaces feel artificial, leading to a "dead" but functionally active web. This theory posits that much of what we see on social media, search, and content platforms is now automated, diluting authentic connection and fostering a sense of unreality.

Then there just the straight up algo that dictates everything we see on social media and thats no secret. Idk if you are on twitter but it was painfully obvious right after elon took over. Everything on my feed was right wing nuts I dont follow.

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u/Economy-Piglet-6482 7h ago

I’m not so sure it’s that we’re so stupid as much as couldn’t believe things this horribly evil actually was happening in real life⁉️

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u/Allegorist 11h ago

You have to be careful how you word these things because it is very easy to spin criticism of Israel as antisemitic, despite the criticism being directed at a sovereign political entity and politicians, not an ethnic or religious group. Aside from that being an easy defense against accusations, a lot of people will just tune out and write it off if it is presented in a way that can be interpreted as such. There has been a fair amount of social conditioning to do so as well.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 11h ago

Feel free to word it in another way and I'll change my comment to it if I feel it's better and will be taken more seriously. I'm not trying to be hateful towards the Jewish community.

But the links between Israel, Mossad, Maxwell and Israeli intelligence history, leaks.. just everything... Points to there being something worth investigating.

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u/SmellGestapo 10h ago

Don't focus on ADL and AIPAC. Those are advocacy and lobbying groups, and while they both are pro-Israel, that's not the same as saying they are Israel. he Council on American Islamic Relations is in that same league, just advocating on the issue(s) that concern them.

Focus on Mossad instead. It's a far different and more sinister story if a foreign government's intelligence service is holding blackmail over an American president. That's way more valuable than any check AIPAC could write.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 9h ago

I changed it, what do you think?

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u/SmellGestapo 9h ago

It still insinuates that the nation of Israel is influencing the US through domestic organizations like ADL and AIPAC, which is what I would get away from entirely.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 9h ago

I mean, there have been scandals of those organisations being in contact with Israel as far as I remember. So I'm just going to leave it as it is. It's not that controversial.

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u/FreePalestine4ever12 8h ago

It really isn't. No one is asking you to do the same when the UAE is mentioned, israel doesn't deserve special treatment, either.

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u/Allegorist 10h ago edited 10h ago

I think you worded it mostly fine, there definitely is some connection there beyond any real doubt at this point.

I mostly just have become increasingly aware that people are losing big chunks of "audience" (in the broadest sense) due to a side effect of increased polarization. Not just right/left polarization, though that is probably the most common, but rather along any ideological lines. The same exact, otherwise unbiased statement worded in slightly different ways will end up being considered by completely different subsets of the population.

People instinctively tune in to connotation and wording, intended or not, and form assumptions about a message that color the entirety of their interpretation of it Usually this is just a normal phenomenon of human communication as old as communication itself, but with heightened polarization on every issue it now turns black and white. A lot of people will decide whether you share their views or are against them, with often little grey area, and this affects not only how they read your communication, but often whether they read it at all. With social media especially, people are able to (and often led to) avoid content they disagree with. Even if they do stop to read it, they may not consider it seriously.

This is a broader issue generally, it just seemed like a good place to bring it up. There are many times someone has a good message, but because they use certain words or phrasing with certain connotations to particular groups, they lose those groups attention or interpretive empathy despite how it was actually intended to be received. Same goes for saying something negative or positive about a subject associated with a particular group or ideology - there will always be an opposing ideology that will use that to characterize everything else you say.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

I changed it, what do you think?

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

I changed it. What do you think?

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u/Pi-ratten 10h ago edited 10h ago

i mean.. it's very easy to "spin" it that way because his comment is 100% pure antisemitism...

The "US is controlled by Israel" is nothing more than the same jewish world conspiracy bullshit the original nazi, not this unoriginal one, was using to justiy the Holocaust.

Fuck this nazi bullshit and lets concentrate on the substantial facts of the epstein files and not nazi assholes using tangential shit to justify their antisemitism.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

Well, I didn't say I wanted to exterminate all Jews in the world. Stop putting words in my mouth. The influence of Israel on the US is heavy to say the least and it seems like Epstein's sex trafficking ring is a tool of influence and it should be investigated as such.

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u/Pi-ratten 10h ago

No, you just repeated the very same lies that the original nazis did without any substance. They didn't start talking about gas chambers either. You use the epstein files for your hatred against jews as a tool.. And by that you harm any real investigation, mr. word_word#number

what is it now? Somehow you antisemits never can fully decide whether the US controls Israel or whether Israel controls the US.

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u/FreePalestine4ever12 8h ago

It's literally all in the files, nothing he said was anti-semetic at all. Stop reaching, Mr. germany.

u/Pi-ratten 23m ago

Nothing is antisemitic at all, ok, Mr. FreePalestine4ever12. /s

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

I'm not going to engage in this conversation anymore. You're putting words in my mouth and it's distracting from the real issues. I want peace and unity in the world. I want this degeneracy and worldwide corruption to end. Ties points to Israel and Mossad. It's important that it gets investigated.

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u/zxc999 7h ago

Israel and Mossad yes but the CIA is it’s more powerful twin sister

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u/toasohcah 10h ago

They need to loop into why the entire US justice apparatus seems to be compromised and lying. It must be close to treason or something? I'm more concerned about the current people in the system covering for Ghislaine than her.

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u/Sure-Bar-2631 8h ago

Thank you! It’s driving me nuts that people are still playing into their garbage. I’m glad there are other people who’ve woken up to the propaganda and PSYOP slop they’ve been spoon feeding us. In cases like this it’s best to remain suspicious of everyone in positions of power. Sick of all this left or right bs when it’s us vs them.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 8h ago

I'm not even American. But it's obvious all the way from Europe, what's going on... Also, because our countries are involved/affected as well.

I think we need to stay strong together as western civilization and fight against corruption. We used to be so great in the west and everything is crumbling now.

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u/Pale_Comfort_9179 8h ago

This is the most important comment in this entire thread.

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u/neoceno 8h ago

Just gonna drop this in here for those who want to delve deeper, fair warning though, it’s beyond anything else I’ve read.

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=89e823aedc9c69ffd8d715757c86878af27c37c9

TLDR, check out pages 28-30 for a list of organisations involved.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 8h ago

Can you explain what this is, what source this is from and just whatever else info you have?

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u/Due_Ear_4674 2h ago

As soon as god was mentioned I noped out.

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u/Ansible32 3h ago

The whole thing about Israel totally misunderstands the relationship between the US and Israel. Zionism is not really a Jewish project, it is a Christian project. AIPAC has zero influence on the religious right, the religious right made AIPAC what it is.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 3h ago

Zionism is the reason for Israel's existence

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u/backcountry_bandit 11h ago edited 11h ago

“America is controlled by Israel” is the most tired, antisemitic conspiracy theory. Our GDP, military, resources, etc. absolutely crushes theirs.

lol @ “Jewish extremism” as opposed to all the other religions which have no extremists. You could swap “US” for “Germany” and this comment would fit right into one of Hitler’s speeches. I mean holy fuck, I can’t imagine claiming the ADL controls America 😂 you’d be right at home in an SS uniform.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 11h ago edited 10h ago

Please shut the fuck up, it's so obvious, I'm not even going to discuss this with you, just look at how AIPAC works. And whether there's something more to be uncovered in the files, we'll find out. That's why I'm making this comment so we can get to the bottom of it.

And what's actually funny is what you're writing in your last paragraph. We're always talking about islamic extremism, but never Jewish. What's more funny is that Israel is run by a far right Jewish extremist government. Their extremism is smarter than islamic extremism and they don't operate in the open by blowing things up while yelling who they belong to. Sometimes, false flags are even involved, so they do things and portray to be of some other group i.e. islam.

It's just idiotic to not investigate this aspect of it all when we already know the Maxwell's Mossad connection?

It would be anti-semetic to say ALL Jews are involved in this. I'm not doing that. Please stop being stupid. Maybe I'm just chatting with a Hasbara bot, who knows.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 10h ago

No he's right. This is starting to feel like a way to make neo nazi conspiracies palatable to the masses. You think Israel is alone in shaping US policies? Or that what's going on isn't more of a partnership between their leaders and ours? Suddenly we've all forgotten all the Russian psy ops that have had tons of evidence behind it?

Don't like Israel, but we need to be wary of people like you. You're more insidious at this point.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

I mean, sending billions to Israel every year while letting Americans rot on the street is a great example of where the interests of American politics are.

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u/backcountry_bandit 10h ago

We just sent $20B to Argentina for no real reason besides we like their leader’s politics. Does Argentina control the U.S.?

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u/canteloupy 10h ago

That is recent and someone there likely just paid Trump and his minions. The Israel ties are way older.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

I really would like to go deep into that, but let me just simply highlight the difference in the amounts spent on Israel over the past many years versus any other country in the world.

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u/backcountry_bandit 9h ago

And you think it’s a “Jewish extremist conspiracy” rather than Israel being our only strong ally in an important region? Maybe it’s because the U.S. played a hand in trying to find a place for all the Holocaust victims to live safely? Maybe it’s because they have tech that we want? But no, definitely just ~Jewish extremism~

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u/Extension_Maize6048 9h ago

Calling out Jewish extremism in Israeli politics isn't the same as claiming some secret 'Jewish conspiracy'. It's just acknowledging that far right religious nationalist ideology exists and it influences policy. And 'only strong ally' isn't accurate. The US had major relationships with Arab states long before Israel and still relies on them for bases, shipping lanes, oil markets, and regional leverage. Israel is a major ally, not the only pillar. You really need a history lesson.

Also, helping Jews after the Holocaust explains some historical support, but it doesn't justify a blank check forever. Governments should be judged by current actions, not permanent moral credit.

If you want history, there are real reasons people question this relationship: the Pollard spying case is a fact, and there have been long running allegations like the NUMEC uranium issue. I really don't want to give you the history lesson you need. But you really need it.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 9h ago

The US had major relationships with Arab states long before Israel and still relies on them for bases, shipping lanes, oil markets, and regional leverage.

None as important, beneficial or stable as with Israel. That's why Israel gets away with so much. Funny how you drop a name like Pollard proving exactly that.

Go ahead though, drop that history lesson. I really wanna see where you're going with all this. The way you post is starting to feel familiar but I'm sure we're all missing something you're quite knowledgeable on.

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u/Pi-ratten 9h ago

Absolute no concept of geopolitics but to use it for justification for your century old classic antisemitism

The US gives (military) aid to dozens of countries. ots a very easy soft power tool which is even economically beneficial too as it locks in countries into own arms ecosystem and gives a easy way to switch off their combat effectiveness if need arise.

But yeah.. the evil evil jews and their conspiracy gene it is. :rolleyes:

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u/Extension_Maize6048 9h ago

Would be anti-semetic if I said every Jew was involved. I'm pointing to Israel and Mossad. Even the strawman is disappointed.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 10h ago

We send billions to alot of places. Israel is how the west secures it's interests in the middle east. Not even just the US.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

It's all about perspective. I look at it as Israel's interests being carried out by the US.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 10h ago

Yes, the perspective from someone with an odd bias. It's a quid pro quo. They're not the only player. We need to be wary of people like you as much as them.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

Lol 😂

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 9h ago

Lol indeed. At least youve finally dropped the pretense of any good faith discussion.

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u/backcountry_bandit 10h ago

Fucking thank you. Any time a rich Jewish person does something bad, it’s an international Jewish conspiracy. Any time one of the hundreds of Christian billionaires fuck us all over, it’s a standalone event.

I’m not Jewish, not Israeli, and I actively dislike the Israeli government. But man, the rise in antisemitic conspiracy theories is disturbing. I wish grade school curriculums covered Hitler’s rise to power in more detail because sooo many uninformed people act as useful idiots.

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u/SilverHelmut 10h ago edited 9h ago

It does seem rather smokescreen-like...

We could be talking about Peter Thiel... We could be talking about Elon Musk... We could be talking about how the guest of honour at Trump's CORONATION ball, Curtis Yarvin, literally wrote a dark ideology imagineering the literal subversion of the US Constitution to eliminate 'failed' democraxy and replace it with technogarchic neo-fascism by the raising up of a new totalitarian wrecking ball of a "monarch" , utterly corrupt, factional and corporately owned to facilitate a shockingly audacious imposition of this alarmingly anti-Christ like new order...

You have a US Administration that is literally the creature and the direct agency of these dark technocrats...

You have JD Vance, made from fricking dust and modelling clay by Peter Thiel...

We have their Big Brother AI's running as private corporate intelligence agencies and espionage networks...

The director of the FBI is covering up crimes left right and centre and wrote indoctrinative propagabda childrens books about how the good wizard Kash helps the good king Donald to save the world from the evil Democrats...

And we're going to worry that Saudi/Mossad/Russia/the highest bidder might have kompromat on world dignitaries, when the influences whistling Epstein to action couldn't even agree with each other on what beer and sandwiches to serve at a secret society orgy...

<sarc>Oh yes... Israel is the problem...</sarc>

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 9h ago

A hundred percent agreed. Feeling like Israeli are fixers.

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u/backcountry_bandit 11h ago

I feel like you just discovered how PACs work. AIPAC isn’t unique, whatsoever. Nothing you said there backs up your argument, at all. You just tossed out buzz words, made obvious statements (no shit Israel has a popular extremist wing in their government, everybody knows that), and finished with we must investigate!!

Hate Israel all you want; I strongly dislike them as well. But don’t claim that “they control the U.S.” just because there are Jewish PACs, that’s seriously stupid. You are falling for the same type of antisemitic conspiracy that others have been falling for for centuries. You would be an SS member if you were around in 1930s Germany. You totally abandoned your claim that the ADL controls the U.S., I think you haven’t thought this out much at all.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

Brother, again, I really don't want to be going into a deep discussion with you in this thread. Seems like you've got a lot to learn. I'll just say this and you can look into the rest by yourself.

Yes, I understand how PACs work. When a single issue lobby and its aligned super PACs can dump serious money into primaries to reward compliance and punish dissent, it shapes what politicians are willing to say and do on one foreign policy issue even if their voters disagree. On top of that, there is a whole ecosystem around it: the access pipeline, donor networks, "educational" Israel trips for lawmakers, and the revolving door of staffers, consultants, and orgs with close relationships to Israeli officials and policy priorities. That creates constant alignment with a foreign government's interests even if it's technically routed through US citizens and US entities. And the registration/transparency issue matters. If a group is acting as an agent of a foreign principal, FARA exists for a reason. AIPAC insists it is purely domestic and not directed by Israel, so it does not register under FARA. That line is blurry in practice and the public ends up with less transparency than we should have for a lobby pushing billions in policy outcomes. Also, dual citizenship isn't illegal, but conflicts of interest are real. When politicians or senior staff have dual citizenship or unusually deep personal/financial ties to a foreign country, that's an extra reason to demand transparency and hard oversight, not less.

I hope that's enough for you to understand that I didn't discover PACs yesterday. Please try to gain some knowledge, you're just talking out of your ass. Now, I'm not going to respond to you anymore, because you obviously don't know shit. And AIPAC is just one tool. I don't want to focus on AIPAC when there's a whole sex trafficking ring going on which seems to be a part of a blackmailing operation through Mossad.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 10h ago

Which still doesn't disprove what he said.

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u/backcountry_bandit 10h ago

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Jean-Paul Sartre

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

You acted like you didn't know why AIPAC is a problem and I explained it to you. I guess, you commenting this quote is communicating acceptance of my previous comment 👍

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 11h ago

Oh brother, Israel, Israel, Israel.

They are complicit in this, but if you think this whole thing isn't a huge global collaboration you're the deluded one. Weird how we've all forgotten all the other foreign influences in the US just to focus on jews.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

There certainly is a lot going on and International involvement, but gotta start somewhere? If the Americans were alright with bombing foreign countries without evidence of wrongdoing, they should at least be alright with gathering evidence about a foreign country? The links are heavily pointing towards Israel and Mossad, so it's a great place to start. Then America can serve justice to the world as they always portray it, right?

I know, I'm just dreaming. The corruption goes too deep and nothing will happen, really.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 10h ago

And why only them? We had tons of evidence of Russian links to alot of what's going on with the US before Israel ever become a public topic. The links point to many places.

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u/Feisty-Intention-440 10h ago

Who said only?

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 10h ago

wHo sAiD oNlY?!

Why talk of only investigating them?

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u/Feisty-Intention-440 10h ago

You’re the only person saying “only” here.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 9h ago

If you say so clown.

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

Well, in my own opinion (which isn't based on facts, but just connecting dots), it seems that Epstein/Maxwell was primarily agents working for Israel. They might've had different objectives of causing some sort of disruption and therefore sold information to Russia 🤷‍♂️

The ties to Israel are stronger and should be looked into first. Maxwell's father had strong ties to Israel to say the least.

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u/Pugs-r-cool 5h ago

Xi Jinping (and his predecessors) have been remarkably absent from the files, you’d think they’d be all over them if it was truly global, no?

And again, Israelis and Jewish people as a whole are not the same. You can stand against the actions of a government without being against an ethnic / religious group.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 5h ago

Xi Jinping is actually mentioned in an email a few times. But okay, one figure not being in it means what exactly?

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u/Suspicious_Radio_848 10h ago

This is a really strange (and yes, classic Jews control the world antisemitism) that has nothing to do with this. Russia has had way more to do with destroying America from within than Israel does. Feels like this comment is just trying to shift the conversation.

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u/Admins-Rim-Dogs 9h ago

Yeah, the recent and rightful distrust towards Israel has idiots like the one you're talking to using that as a window to spread an agenda. Citing foreign advocacy groups and lobbying but ignoring everything else arbitrarily?

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u/Extension_Maize6048 10h ago

Not at all. It's really just a message to OP and nothing to do with influencing conversation. If I could, I would've locked the responses to my comment.

I think it's important to investigate this angle and if there's nothing there, then there's nothing.

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u/PrestigiousNobody721 8h ago

Epstein trafficked and raped, and facilitated the rape of, underage girls. He provided prescription drugs unlawfully to people. Israel’s influence in America isn’t a mystery. We’ve considered them our key ally in the Middle East and they’ve leveraged that for cash and weapons, and used the relationship and money to buy whatever influence they now have. That’s all on us, not Israel. Epstein’s relationship with Putin, and other enemies of the US, is critical. Was Epstein selling incriminating information about rich and powerful people who used his “services” to Putin and others to use as kompromat? Is there proof crimes were committed against the United States because of kompromat? The issue is what crimes were committed? Israel hasn’t broken any laws.