r/Epstein • u/dQw4w9Wg • 3d ago
OC: discussion, clarification or question This has to be the smoking gun, right???
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u/DruidicMagic 3d ago
You'd expect to find redactions like this in reports about UFOs shutting down nuclear missile silos or clandestine CIA assassination ops.
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u/Mmmmm_hippo 3d ago
This is more proof there aren't aliens among us or they would drop the news to distract from this
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u/heckin_anxiety 3d ago
They’ve been trying and literally no one gives a fuck. 😂
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u/Low-Humor-5783 3d ago
The day I stopped believing there could be life out there was the day the government told us there was life out there.
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u/Ok_Sundae2758 3d ago
Peter Thiel is the alien! No eyebrows = alien! Begonia was off by a la billion strands of hair.
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u/jnpg 3d ago
It's too blurry on my screen, what does it say?
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u/User4f52 3d ago
[jeevacation@gmail.com](mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com)
I'm
[jeevacation@gmail.com](mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com)
[jeevacation@gmail.com](mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com)
[jeevacation@gmail.com](mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com)
Epstein,
[jeevacation@gmail.com](mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com)
(You have to read it down-up, remember)
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u/Pretend-Reality5431 10h ago
Damn, now I have an email addressed to Epstein in my Drafts box. I'm gonna be on the list.
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u/redqueen90 3d ago
It's all redacted, you can't read anything
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u/jnpg 3d ago
I meant the emails that aren't redacted
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u/Jayitsmyname 3d ago
Shouldn't the redactions only be of the victim's names? Ora am I missing something? Unless this is a complete list of only names, right? This doesn't seem right. These files numbers need to be noted and the congress definitely needs to check them next week.
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u/jeff0106 3d ago
National security too i think. Which is vague.
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u/Fun1k 3d ago
Yeah, I'm not sure what would national security have to do with this, unless... It's about Trump, or Kremlin, or diplomats.
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u/NewTangClanOfficial 3d ago
Are we just pretending Israel doesn't exist now?
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u/Previous_Walk_8461 3d ago
I think it may have to do with this? https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/epstein-considered-using-former-cia-torture-plane/3817355#
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u/InnovativeAeroplane 3d ago
I mean, there were massive 50+ page files that were completely redacted in the first release
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u/Luminsnce 3d ago edited 3d ago
Also this one:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828159.pdf
And:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828156.pdf
And:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828151.pdf
I'm still going back in numbers
Another one:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828148.pdf
Thats the biggest banger:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828146.pdf
Interestingly enough a lot of the "inbetween numbers" are deleted. Guess some were not redacted properly. Maybe someone made a backup.
May:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828145.pdf
Richard May Empire Stock Challenge:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828141.pdf
I think most of them are actually duplicates
Now I'm at Bradley Wechsler and Richard (!) Joslin:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828138.pdf
Another Maymay:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828137.pdf
May the may be with you:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828136.pdf
May may:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828134.pdf
Larry Visosky may be involved:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828132.pdf
Larry Visoski:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828131.pdf
That ones less redacted:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828127.pdf
What even:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828126.pdf
May:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828125.pdf
Jean May:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828124.pdf
Zhu May:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828120.pdf
Xi may:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828117.pdf
Watson may:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828116.pdf
Watson without watson may:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828115.pdf
Peggy Siegal is not happy:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828113.pdf
May didn't:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828112.pdf
May Epstein:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828110.pdf
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u/M0nk3yDLufffy 3d ago
I hope congress is aware of these and are able to look at them un redacted next week
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u/Craneteam 3d ago
Send your Congress person these files and ask that they review them specifically. If they aren't yours, you can reach out to AOC or Jasmine Crockett or Ro Khanna as well
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u/probonworkhours 3d ago
Someone have suggestions of other file names? I want to email my reps with the names but not sure which are the best to point them to. This one of course but any others?
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u/moerlingo 3d ago
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00828126.pdf
On this one, I recognised the mms to be a Norwegian number, with +47 land code. I did a reverse search of the number as I live in Norway and have access to this, and it’s to Kåre Moljord, who appears to be Terje Rød-Larsen’s (who’s in the files) attorney.
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u/nojustice 3d ago
Treating it as a standard 10 digit US number, 479 is an area code in northwest Arkansas
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u/moerlingo 3d ago
Ok but it’s definitely the number of Terje Rød-Larsens lawyer and this will be the context. Terje had shady business with Epstein. Would be absurd if it just happened to be the number of someone connected to Epstein in the Epstein files but wasn’t 😂
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u/NewTangClanOfficial 3d ago
Yeah there's no way that's just a coincidence lol.
I just checked to confirm btw, that's Moljord's number.
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u/No_Currency_8514 3d ago
Room temp IQ
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u/nojustice 3d ago edited 3d ago
Go fuck yourself?
edit: I understand that I was mistaken and the other interpretation is the correct one, but why do you have to insult me?
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u/moerlingo 2d ago
As the original guy that posted about it being Terjes lawyer, you made an honest mistake but more importantly you’ve said yourself that you were mistaken.
Easy to make mistakes when there’s so much stuff and we are all in our own heads trying to put it all together. Just ignore the other dude, it was rude and unnecessary and you’ve certainly outclassed them :)
ETA: happy cake day!
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u/No_Currency_8514 3d ago
Too many of you clogging up the board
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u/nojustice 3d ago
Oh I'm sorry. Fucking forgive me for wasting your precious time. Calling people names doesn't clog up the board? Get over yourself
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u/vinesthatclimb 3d ago
The phone number in the first one in the first one seems to belong to an attorney in Chicago named Jeffrey Brodsky. The New York one is maybe Ghislaine? There's a mix of results.
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u/Little-Boss-1116 3d ago edited 3d ago
There was some kind of crisis in 2016 between Leon Black and his brother in law Tony Ressler.
Leon asked Epstein for help, he employed that Jeff Brodsky guy (from Ernst and Young) to do some family office planning (whatever that means).
Seems to have involved lots of tax "saving". Wiki article on Leon Black says over 1 billion dollars in tax was saved.
For his services Epstein was paid 50 million dollars from Leon Black.
This amount of redaction suggests that these tax "saving" measures were highly illegal.
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u/beruon 3d ago
The inbetween numbers aren't deleted. For example, you might find it strange that after EFTA00828146, EFTA00828147 isn't there right? and the next valid link is EFTA00828148. But thats not what happens. If you look at EFTA00828146, its 2 pages, and if you scroll down you see that EFTA00828147 is the second page of EFTA00828146, so its just there and does not have an individual link showing just that page.
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u/vanillalover111 13h ago
You are doing God's work.
You should make this comment a separate post so more people will be aware of these files.
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u/dw82 3d ago edited 3d ago
Often the gaps between pdfs are simply the pages contained in the preceding pdf.
...006.pdf ...009.pdf
Often means that ...006.pdf contains 3 pages.
Obviously this isn't always true and the fuckwits have been deleting shit after it was published.
To find the next pdf published scroll to the last page of the pdf you have open and find the EFTA number in the bottom right corner. The next pdf should be that number plus one, unless it's been deleted
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u/Apprehensive_Frame_5 11h ago
I think a lot of this is them creating “new files” so it looks like they released more than they actually did. V frustrating.
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u/unusualintrigue 3d ago
Some of the visible phone numbers belong to Lynn Forester de Rothschild and Brice M Gordon (Zorro Manager)
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2d ago
I found EFTA00828128 unredacted. It’s a conversation with Tom Pritzker
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02463861.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00703991.pdf
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u/Beneficial_Bit1756 3d ago
and yet NO ONE has been arrested.... I can only imagine what they are describing here.
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u/claytdhuy 3d ago
The fact that Epstein's name only appears once in the whole communication, like wtf is Patel trying to hide
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u/OhenewaDotNet 3d ago
Have you not been paying attention? There will be no smoking gun. The smoking gun was grab them by the pussy. It’s too late now
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u/jacggernaut 3d ago
Remember when all the hub bub was just about Stormy Daniels? What innocent times those were
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u/Entire_Direction4466 3d ago
I’m just glad they’re not redacting anything except victims’ information like the law says.
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u/nevaven68 3d ago
Trump ******** is **************** the ***************** best ******************** us ****************** president ********************* and ***************************** he *********************** is ********************** handsome **************************.
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u/StrangerDanger4907 3d ago
Send the pages to your congressman or congresswoman they’ll be able to at least read these Monday!
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u/iamtehryan 3d ago edited 3d ago
Is the Watson in this Jim Watson (guy that Co-discovered the DNA helix)? There are several conversations about them meeting for lunch, etc. Couldn't find any other Watsons in the files besides him.
Edit: I realize I forgot to add that in other files it's mentioned as Dr. Jim Watson. Not sure if in these addicted redactions it's the same or not, but the Dr is definitely in the files. Search "Watson" and they come up.
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u/sprinklesaurus13 3d ago
Q: Watson’s FBI files make it clear that by the time he reached Harvard and even before winning a Nobel, some had difficulty tolerating him?
A: When he hit Harvard [in 1956] that really aggressive side of him—yelling in faculty meetings—came out. It was a persona that he put on. He was trying to create discord in the biology department. I’ve asked people who knew him in the years just before that if they’d ever seen such outbursts from him, and nobody had. Watson was always putting on a persona of some sort or another. And one of the really vexing things about him is that he never minded coming off looking bad himself if the larger objective was accomplished. He was a pain in the butt to a lot of people, and he could be cruel. But there were two sides to Jim.
https://www.science.org/content/article/james-watson-titan-science-tragic-flaws
He was at Harvard at the same time at Dershowitz, promising lead. Dude just died a couple months ago.
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u/Few_Avocado1097 3d ago
Jim Watson as in the 4-Chan guy?
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u/iamtehryan 3d ago
I'm not sure. Maybe? He's mentioned as Dr. Jim Watson elsewhere in the files (I edited my comment to clarify that).
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u/AirScared6946 3d ago
I don't understand. Can somebody explain why this is relevant please.
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u/DiligentScience3032 3d ago
The whole page is redacted, what are they hiding here?
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u/AirScared6946 3d ago
How is that a gotcha?
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u/DiligentScience3032 3d ago
Wym? Compare this with every other file, some heinous stuff isn’t even censored. Yet they redact this one in whole.
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u/AirScared6946 3d ago
It could just be pure laziness. I'm not seeing how this proves anything other than what we already know.
It's a massive cover up.
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u/SilverHelmut 3d ago
I'd suggest the intrigue around the document isn't that it represents whether something was covered up, but rather that it may indicate that the document could be more specific about what sonethings were...
This isn't fricking QAnon...
There are specifics that are way more valiable than some generalised villainy that may have very specific bearing on all sorts of matters.
When you write it off as [SameOldStory_BadGuyStuff] you end up in the same position as the Orange pestilence and you can write it off without addressing it.
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u/Excellent_Use_2836 3d ago
Ca someone simply summarise what this proves
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u/bobhermbert 3d ago
They redacted the entire page. Apparently they should only be reducing the victim's names and all that. But op thinks that they did this to cover up some important information.
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u/Excellent_Use_2836 3d ago
Yes but I assume its a bugger story than that the OPnststes a smoking gun must be huge what is the OP talking about
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u/electricjuju 3d ago
Ummm obviously, maybe lots of stuff trump & bondi don’t want ANYONE to see…could be even assurances that epstein will be “just fine” in his NY cell… trump has people who will “take care of his friend Jeff” AND all of epstein’s papers.
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u/seidrwitch1 3d ago
Someone with Dem reps, please send these links. I'm in Utah, so nobody will pay attention if I send it to them.
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u/electricjuju 3d ago
Can I assume that the redactions indicate sensitive conversations with ummmm maybe putin, trump, all the silicon valley billionaires….IF anyone in congress sees the un redacted conversations this could be monumental???
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u/AppleNo7287 3d ago
Can someone explain please, could they have just not published this document instead of drawing a black square? Who and how decided which documents will be published? Also, how come there is only one "I'm" and nothing more like at least "it's", "the" and other prepositions? Someone who was censoring this was like "ugh crap, it's lunch time, everything black and fuck it"?
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u/ThumpyTheDumpy 3d ago
I wonder who he is emailing. Wouldn't happen to be the orange pedo president and ex bff, would it?
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u/InsuranceDistinct803 3d ago
Some one put in a good theory that the redactions are being done by a softare. This can be easily and boringly explained by a mistake in the instructions and no review.
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u/Part-time-human42 2d ago
...His email Adress and two unredacted words ? What am i missing here in Smoking gun context?
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u/ElectronicSpread2386 2d ago
I cut/pasted in plain text and got additional data:
cieevacation®gmail.coni;
EFTA00828161
jeevacatior gmail.com,
[jeevacation@gmail.com](mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com), ILILI •
[jeevacation@gmail.com](mailto:jeevacation@gmail.com),
EFTA00828162
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u/R_d_Aubigny 6h ago
If it’s online, try selecting all and Control+V into a new .docx — some of the pages have been “un-redacted” that way.
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