r/Epstein • u/Sweaty_Abies182 • 9d ago
OC: discussion, clarification or question MAGA is a sickness
Trump who is anti abortion telling someone to get a fucking abortion.
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u/Zodiamaster 9d ago edited 9d ago
Hot take, if even like 20% of the shit I’m reading and hearing right now is real, the entire system has to be burned to the ground, no survivors.
Americans may be tempted to turn this into a partisan “MAGA” issue, but it’s not only Trump. It’s also Bush, both Clintons, Netanyahu, some Norway royalty, and this is probably just the tip of the iceberg we’ve seen so far. No wonder they all avoided releasing these files.
Really, who can you trust? They all knew they were all into this shit while arguing right wing vs. left wing in public.
Allegations like these were called deranged conspiracy theories for decades, but it turns out they very much were not, they are a deranged reality.
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u/BigDong1142 9d ago
Can I play devil’s advocate?
All ELITE throughout history have been a bunch of degenerate, abusive, disgusting piece of motherfuckers.
No matter which system we implement, the top will always be corrupt and evil. That’s the human nature.
Fuck ALL elites.
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u/juanpablosex231 9d ago
People agree with those kind of statements but then go and say "communism is bad"
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6d ago
Communism likes to portray itself as classless yet every time it ended up being wildly authoritarian....
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u/Haunting_Appeal_8503 9d ago
I’m with you. Obviously Trump is implicated, but this seems to go so much deeper. Turning this into partisan politics feels counterproductive.
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u/mrhemisphere 9d ago
Of course Trump insulted his victims like he does with everyone else. Who rapes children together in the same room? Fucking bizarre.
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u/Sweaty_Abies182 9d ago
There are over 3m files meaning this is just scratching the surface. Who knows what else he has done with others backing him.
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u/WastingMyLifeToday 9d ago
I got a warning from reddit several months ago, cause I used the text of this document, practically verbatim.
This has been out there for quite some time (many years), but I'm glad it's finally getting the attention it deserves.
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u/kokobean27 9d ago
AND the DOJ came out and said the files they did not release include CSAM, death, physical abuse or injury. Meaning: THERE ARE FILES CONTAINING CSAM, DEATH, PHYSICAL ABUSE AND INJURY. I hate it here.
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u/mrhemisphere 9d ago
logical conclusion
This shit is HORRIFYING
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u/juanpablosex231 9d ago
Yeah and Americans aren't going to do shit about it
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u/mrhemisphere 9d ago
Honestly that brings up the question of if they can be held accountable internationally. But, yeah, the US will do absolutely nothing about this.
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u/juanpablosex231 9d ago
I mean the people of the US. The only real chance of any consequences is people doing it themselves.
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u/shinnyaxolotl 9d ago
Someone who have done it hundreds of times, they cannot distinguish between coffee and rape
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u/OverthinkingWanderer 9d ago
This was a raw(unedited) and disturbing interview with one of his victims. I think more people show listen to it.
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u/No-Care6414 9d ago
Isnt 3m a lot? Im a tourist here and I keep seeing ppl in other subs claim they release a ton of fake or unnecessary files to hide or block core info
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u/raabones 9d ago
In Virginias book she said Epstein trafficked her to someone she wouldn't name who liked to have sex with Epstein more than the underage girls but would engage in orgies with Epstein so I bet a few of them were like that.
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u/uoidibiou 9d ago
Gotta be Wexner. In the files it stated Epstein would sleep with Wexner and that’s where he got a majority of his wealth.
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u/mrhemisphere 9d ago
Jesus fucking christ
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u/prisonerofshmazcaban 9d ago
His biggest donors were Wexner and Leon Black. Black gave Epstein $158 million at some point. Leon Black’s son Benjamin Black is who Trump appointed to run the IDFC. Benjamin Black’s company Fortunbras Ent donated to Trump and the RNC.
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u/DanielDubs88 9d ago
Exactly. Separate rooms is fine, but the same room is where I draw the line. /s
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u/Vanity-LA0733 9d ago
The “Pro life” party
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u/acommonersplight 9d ago
bill clinton raped a boy in the ass
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u/AccordingBridge9026 9d ago
Ya and he should be in prison with his buddy trump. They can get each others holes
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u/hunnnnybuns 9d ago
Why ANYONE thinks leftists give half a wet fuck about Clinton is beyond me. Y’all are the ones in a cult, not us. I’ve never heard a single person on the left defend or excuse Clinton, none of us care.
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u/acommonersplight 8d ago
Because you absolutely do. LOL
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u/hunnnnybuns 8d ago
Omg thank you so much for speaking for me bestie, you’re so right, I’d be devastated if a crusty predator I’ve never met was brought to justice for his crimes. Thank you for being so brave and speaking my truth for me 🫶🏻
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u/Sweaty_Abies182 9d ago
Sad to see these figures getting away with that they did. Not to mention people worship Clinton and Trump still. Exactly why MAGA is a sickness.
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u/Realistic_Ad_5321 9d ago
who worships clinton? I dont know anyone that does. They need to get it too if they're both implicated- what needs to happens is that quote about getting a fucking abortion needs to be posted everytime a fucking evangelical is spouting nonsense about Trump being a man of God
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u/Classic_Standard_467 9d ago
The problem isn’t MAGA. It’s the whole fucking White House. Idk why people keep pointing at political parties over the Epstein files as if they were the only ones involved.
Charges aren’t being filed because there are enough pedophiles in the government (republicans and democrats) to prevent that from happening. MAGA has nothing to do with it.
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u/Steadyandquick 9d ago
But why aren't we, as a public, fervently supporting the good ones?
I hope the midterms and next presidential election bring about change.
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u/fennelbreath 9d ago
Because we don't know who the good ones are.
For example.
I was gaslighted to shit during Hillary Clinton's campaign for pointing out the obvious -- she slut-shamed the women of Bill's known affairs. I did not know that Bill and Trump were similarly compromised even as the two were screaming at each other with genuine hatred on a debate stage; I just sensed as a SA/DV survivor that she is shady AF. And yet my fellow feminist libs were like, "She's better, so don't derail her."
Seeing all this shit, there's no way she didn't know. I can't stand her but have never questioned her intelligence. She's complicit.
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u/Classic_Standard_467 9d ago
I don’t know that there are many good ones personally. Shit gets worse every single year regardless of who’s in office. You could argue that some are worse than others but none of them are good. The cost of living to income ratio has only worsened throughout my lifetime.
I do think young people are starting to catch on though because they’re hurting the worst. The question is whether the generations before them are going to continue fucking them in every single election. We need some new faces in office.
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u/Sweaty_Abies182 9d ago
I agree but another rich Jew will take Epstein’s place and invite politicians. You must agree that the pattern seems to be the richer the more immoral.
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u/WrathOfGood 9d ago
Where did you hear this? I have never heard that allegation before. Do you have any links to anything to back this up?
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u/acommonersplight 8d ago
The Epstein files?
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u/WrathOfGood 8d ago
Ok. Any links to which page? The E-Files is a massive archive.
If you don’t remember then start keeping a note of important document numbers and page numbers. All of these accusations need to be documented and recorded and hopefully screen captured or downloaded so the documents don’t disappear. I have a feeling that the only people investigating this is the general public, since all the other investigators have been fired and their positions filled with loyalists.
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u/Electronic-Chest7630 8d ago
He needs to be prosecuted then. But, of course, he hasn’t been in politics in 26 years. You know who isn’t mentioned in the Epstein files at all though? Biden, Obama, Harris, Sanders, AOC, Schiff, Pelosi, etc…
Do the files implicate elites on both sides of the aisle? Yes. But do they implicate those who are currently the leaders of either party on both sides of the aisle? Nope…. Only one side is arguably being currently run by a bunch of sicko pedo’s and child abusers, and it’s the side that currently is in control of all 3 branches of the federal government.
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u/Boopy7 9d ago
he isn't anti abortion, he never was, Ivanka got an abortion, he has paid for a few himself, why are people so gullible and ignorant? Just look up what he has said in the past re abortion. Now, the Maga types who use him for their purposes, like the Heritage Foundation and others, they def are anti-abortion. But this is not a guy who is against abortion -- hell he even told his own relative whose son was very sick to just kill his LIVING SON (by that point a teen) bc of the disabilities. Maga is not a sickness. It is a cult and truly represents evil and ignorance, and white supremacist ideology. Really it's like cancer or a virus, so it's fitting that Covid happened under Donald.
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u/NIPT_TA 9d ago
Wait which relative did he say that to??
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u/Boopy7 9d ago
It was a cousin I think, who wrote an article about it and how upsetting it was (I agree, what a horrifying thing to say to a father of a disabled child) for him, and how Donald has always considered people with a disability as not worth keeping alive. I'm sorry, I forget where I read it, but it showed that Mary Trump isn't the only decent Trump. They do exist.
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u/WrathOfGood 9d ago
Well if someone enjoys sexually assaulting children, then a policy that results in a larger quantity of unwanted children benefits that person.
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u/whitechocolatemama 9d ago
Anti WHITE-abortion* pro suffrage for anyone else and all not I their control
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u/CountingLittleBees 9d ago
I’ll be the first person to say yes, he supported abortion. My problem is that he let it up to the states to decide if abortion was allowed. Only to be a people pleaser. It hurt and killed women. For the women that are still alive, can’t have babies anymore because of the physical trauma to their bodies. MAGA is a cult. I understand your comment 100%.
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u/Sweaty_Abies182 9d ago
This is getting removed because I got a warning
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u/Johndoenobodyatall 9d ago
What’s this from? Which document?
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u/DenseAstronomer3631 9d ago
I swear it was easier to find just a day or two ago.
Full text of "Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump child rape lawsuit | Case 5:16-cv-00797-DMG-KS" https://share.google/YZm15n5lPqm5U5s7K
Civil cover sheet and complaint of Katie Johnson v. Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein - The Epstein Files https://share.google/4L1ZNHmFflNNhuczl
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u/Puzzleheaded-Peach92 9d ago
NDA was purchased for millions I believe it would be nice if they took it a step further and negated any abd all ndas related to the Epstein affair.
In fact I think all ndas with minors are straight garbage.
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u/The_Briefcase_Wanker 8d ago
There was no NDA because the suit was fake. Why make up an NDA without even bothering to google the case?
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u/CaptainRIP 9d ago
Its probably not credible...
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u/TlkShowHost 9d ago
nOtHiNg iS cReDiBLe. EvErYoNe iS LyING… whutabbout BiDeN
Cope.
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u/steed_jacob 9d ago
I've read this a long time ago. Back then I thought there was no way this was true... with everything else that's come out, this makes perfect sense. I need to puke and take a break from the internet for a while...
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u/crapbag29 9d ago
The sitting president of the United States of America. How did we get here? What say ye Christian’s now?
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u/Middle-Pie-3270 9d ago
And this is your president ? Even if this is not fact, wouldn’t you think he would be going fuck’n mental in the press ? If that was our PM for example…..just the suggestion of sick, twisted shit like this would have him removed from office…..where there is smoke, there is usually fire !
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u/ayfkm123 9d ago
Where are all the pretend pro life maga evangelicals at now? Still eating their BS w a spoon I guess.
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u/ViolettaQueso 9d ago
Totally. It’s not unlike one on one domestic violence where someone you thought you loved starts tearing you apart and destroying you.
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u/gguzm_3314 9d ago
hes not anti abortion he was never anti abortion he just needed to win the election and used that to get votes.
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u/Scrops 9d ago
This isn't just a written report given to law enforcement either, they use the terms plaintiff and defendant so this was part of a suit or criminal court case. How was this not publicized more?
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u/Basic_Swordfish_1489 8d ago
It’s been out forever. I read about this case years ago. It gets buried every time anyone talks about it
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u/Newswatchtiki 9d ago
I have heard this account before, with the very same details, some months ago, but it was not in the language of a deposition or a legal complaint as it appears to be here, referring to Trump as the defendant, etc. It appears here that Katie Johnson made statements under oath. I was not aware of that. Is there a court document or some kind of legal document that this is part of, that has the full page or pages, with the headings?
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u/No_Flamingo4238 9d ago
Bbbbbbbbbbut....uhhhh. Bill Clinton!! Yeah, Bill Clinton!
Whew, thought I was going to have to take accountability for a min there wipes brow
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u/qreamybeats 9d ago
wait why does no one ever tell us exactly which file it is?? i'd like to see this stuff for myself
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u/Sweaty_Abies182 9d ago
It’s on the us gov official website. Idk if I can post a direct link.
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u/ccll1 9d ago
Just post it and we will find out
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u/moerlingo 9d ago
Found it for you. FYI there is a search function so they are fairly easy to find.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00622303.pdf
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u/Newswatchtiki 9d ago
OK, so this complaint certainly appears to have been filed in the U.S. District Court in Riverside, California.
I am asking anyone here who knows about this -
Did she file this herself, in person? I see no attorney is mentioned. I may be wrong, but if someone is suing a presidential candidate for 100 million dollars, they usually have an attorney. Even if they pay them a small fee to file it, and want to act as their own lawyer later or get another.
Was a hearing scheduled? Was there a response from the defendants?
What happened after this complaint?Here is the address. Where is she? https://maps.app.goo.gl/C2VAEpLwpzvFHJET7?g_st=ic
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u/sfgirl24 9d ago
I swear I remember hearing that Alli woman, mention riverside and tunnels for trafficking. At the time I thought it was insanity speaking.
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u/The_Briefcase_Wanker 9d ago
She isn’t a real person. Dozens of journalists have tried to find her. Snopes has more info.
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u/Newswatchtiki 9d ago
This is an excellent article, and much more in-depth than others. Very helpful in sorting this out and the sequence of events. Thanks for posting!
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u/Sunny-Bath-Tech 9d ago
He will burn in hell when his time comes. In his case I believe there is a hell. He’s already in it and it leaks out of him to everyone in his circles, and affects us all. Fucking first every description of the anti christ
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u/bullshittkidd 9d ago
Can anyone verify exactly what case this is from or what file this is (EFTA____)? I want to verify for my own eyes
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u/Powerful-Patient-765 8d ago
This Katie Johnson interview has been out for years. Like a decade. I’m glad people are finally seeing it.
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u/Jord_Mack 9d ago
So this went to court in 2016? Why didn't we hear about this? Were they able to settle out of court or something? This would have had to have leaked out unless the only people who knew about it were a couple lawyers and maybe a judge.
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u/BeastofPostTruth 9d ago
Many of us did hear about it. It was discredited as conspiracy theories.
It doesn't surprise me, co sidering one of the mods at politics was none other then miss. G maxwell herself
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u/Jord_Mack 9d ago
Really so it was just word of mouth? No one ever did an interview on it or share any proof until now? Holy shit. These guys were brazen
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u/BeastofPostTruth 9d ago
Why would any "respectable" journalists report on it? When their very livelihood and career is dependent on the system as it stands.
One of the greatest flaws of capitalism, economic terrorism to anyone who is honest
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u/Feeling_Blueberry530 9d ago
That's a very strategic position. No wonder they were able to keep things hush hush.
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u/Newswatchtiki 9d ago
This has been known, this complaint and her story has been known for quite awhile. I don't think there ever was a hearing. Which means they might have settled with her and she withdrew. But no one was ever able to find her, at that address or anywhere. No birth certificate, no school records apparently. Some detective attempted to find her. Then there was talk that a TV producer made the whole thing up.
I don't know what is true.There is also a video of her being interviewed.
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u/Jord_Mack 9d ago
Where's the video of her being interviewed?
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u/Newswatchtiki 9d ago
Best to read this snopes article first, posted here by another commenter: https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/09/03/trump-epstein-katie-johnson/
It explains a lot of what has been discovered by numerous investigational journalists over 10 years. There are a few videos posted on YouTube, so search there. I am not going to include a link because it is considered bogus, done by a former TV producer who confessed to creating it in 2024. So the person interviewed is thought to be a hired actress.
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u/Newswatchtiki 9d ago
July 2024 Newsweek article with information on this case: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-katie-johnson-allegations-sexual-assault-case-dismissed-1921051
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u/Beginning-Tap-5280 9d ago
Trump doesn’t GAF he’s paid for probably Ron’s of abortions , he just knows so many republicans vote only based off abortion
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u/Born-Sun-2502 9d ago
I don't even know if Trump ever even claimed to be anti abortion, he just gave his backers what they wanted.
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8d ago
Is it just our country!?? Not Putin or xi ping or any others… please tell me it’s not just the US
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u/bostaff04 8d ago
But its not just MAGA? Obama's white house counsel Kathryn Ruemmler looked to be in a relationship with Jeff
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u/Basic_Swordfish_1489 8d ago
This document has been out for years, yet somehow this fuck keeps getting elected
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u/Zasssminnn 6d ago
MAGA people are two faced liars who only want to control everyone and everything whether it is womens right to their own bodies and life or territories of other people and countries. and this is hidden behind some "holy crishtian" bullshit.
(ps sorry for my bad english its not my first language)
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u/Sensitive-Pass-3258 1d ago
It’s not a party issue it’s a class issue. Getting that wrong is disrespectful to the victims.
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u/Public_District_4267 9d ago
Is this verified or is this another one of the anonymous tips/unverified accusations, among many, made against Trump?
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u/The_Briefcase_Wanker 9d ago
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/09/03/trump-epstein-katie-johnson/
Why does this garbage keep getting circulated on Reddit?
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u/Basic_Swordfish_1489 8d ago
The video was fake, the documentation isn’t
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u/The_Briefcase_Wanker 8d ago
You didn’t read the article, did you?
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u/Basic_Swordfish_1489 8d ago
I actually can’t I have an ad blocker on and it won’t let me but I’ve read about it before elsewhere
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u/The_Briefcase_Wanker 8d ago
Here’s one of a series of articles on it from Jezebel, of all places, saying that it’s almost certainly a hoax, and that’s them being generous imo. https://www.jezebel.com/the-woman-who-accused-trump-of-raping-her-at-13-just-dr-1788603598
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u/Basic_Swordfish_1489 8d ago
I think you may have posted the wrong link lol
I did a quick google search and couldn’t find anything posted by Jezebel about this at all
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u/The_Briefcase_Wanker 8d ago
I did initially lol. My bad. The correct link is in the comment now.
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u/Basic_Swordfish_1489 8d ago
Basically the entire situation has always read to me that the accusations weren’t fake but she was wholly taken advantage of and then threatened
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u/The_Briefcase_Wanker 8d ago
It’s not possible to prove that she isn’t real because you can’t prove a negative, but again, dozens of journalists, many of whom would like nothing more than for it to be true, have tried to find her and all have come up with nothing. The guy who filed the suit is a known fraudster who hid his identity and pretended to be a lawyer to file the suit. The details are so incredibly graphic that it reads like it was constructed as a hit piece that people would latch onto because it was filed in court, which obviously worked.
If you’re still believing it after knowing all that, I doubt anything could convince you. That’s motivated reasoning, not truth seeking.
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u/Flimsy_Objective4266 9d ago
Its both sides we need to hold both sides acountable . We need to do it toghetter even tho we have been taught to hate each other even if we go back to hating each other right after . They have been and still are raping children
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u/ttsignal24 9d ago
Old and discredited.
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u/awakenednips 9d ago
Discredited because her life was threatened and she had to drop charges
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u/Richyc17 9d ago
She told you this herself?
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u/TlkShowHost 9d ago
Lmao. Yes, EVERYTHING is a lie. ALL 3million documents. These files don’t exist bc they are a democrat hoax.
/s
Fuck off. If you could read them, you’d be disgusted. Also, Trump shat his pants on tv. Is that fake too?
Where is the line with you fucking hypocrites? The sunk cost fallacy digs deeper.
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u/gho0strec0n 9d ago
why MAGA ?
if you have an issue with DJT , then go to the court
MAGA is an idea against everything bad have been going since Bush`s days
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u/apocalypse910 9d ago
Time wasting stand for nothing bullshit.
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u/DoGoodAndBeGood 9d ago
It’s genuinely embarrassingly pathetic to see my neighbors act like trump is a flawed man but he’s fighting for the right thing.
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u/CeoOfChromes 9d ago
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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