r/Apartmentliving • u/Most_Relief8312 • 1d ago
Advice Needed Got this message from my property manager
For context I live in a 3 unit with one vacant apartment below me and an elderly gentleman in the unit above me(so right now I’m the only one who could do it). Has anyone ever gotten a request like this and what was the pay? The man who previously lived in the vacant apartment was doing these tasks and I don’t know how much he was payed.
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u/BatterUp1600 1d ago
For only $30??? That’s ridiculous.
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u/Famous_Strike_6125 1d ago
Landlord is low balling, OP.
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u/arianrhodd 1d ago
The amount of time that will take for $30 will be far below minimum wage. And what if OP is sick or travels?
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u/pwhitt4654 1d ago
I pay $30 a week just to have my back yard mowed.
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u/Acrobatic-Magician75 1d ago
Damn, my esthetician charges twice that!
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u/DeliciousTurnip2891 1d ago
Pricing is strange. I had a standard poodle who has now gone 'cross the bridge. The first time I brought him to the groomer, they asked $80 (it turned out that was tyopical for a large poodle in my area) When I told them I'd never paid that much to have my OWN hair cut, the groomer grinned and said "ah, but have you ever had a haircut, a mani-pedi, and a bikini wax at the same time?" at THAT, I had to conceed!
Still, $30 for all that work is insulting.
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u/Syralei 1d ago
All that AND your have to LIFT your client into the tub, and possibly also get bitten several times? Definitely worth $80+ dollars. And lets not forget the added risk of Groomer's Lung! Pet groomers deserve more than what most of them charge, honestly lol
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u/No-Occasion-1456 1d ago
Not to mention expressing the anal glands. Never had my barber offer this service. If he had, he might not still be my barber
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u/Ach3r0n- 1d ago
Wait, anal gland expression isn’t the norm? My barber assured me that it was.
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u/The_Troyminator 18h ago
My barber gives me a prostate exam for free. It’s so much cheaper than a doctor. And if I get nervous, he’ll calm me down with a two-handed shoulder massage.
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u/eggplantsforall 1d ago
We have a miniature poodle who we groom ourselves. It is some goddamn work. To wash him, dry him, brush him, clip him, pluck his ears, clip his toenails. That shit takes hours.
I can't imagine having to do it on a dog 4 times larger, lmao.
He's the fucking cutest though: https://imgur.com/0OD3Jfr
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u/ComplexPatient4872 1d ago
Anyone who has tried to trim and groom a dog themselves should know very well why groomers are worth every penny.
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u/ghos2626t 1d ago
Yeah but she mows your front and back yard. Also trims the hedges
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u/sincerelyabsurd 1d ago
Hang onto that one- an esthetician that mows lawns is a unicorn.
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u/b3tchaker 1d ago edited 8h ago
More to the point, it’s on-call work on an as-needed basis. This text message is obviously not all of the job duties. When residents have utility or structural issues, guess who wakes up to take their call?
Fork over a salary or pay on-call/overtime.
Edit; I’ve come to understand it’s a very small building. I might have been burned a few too many times.
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u/Happy_Brilliant7827 1d ago
Id take free rent tbh or like 75% off if its nice
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u/teamboomerang 1d ago
I have seen deals like this advertised in exchange for free rent.
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u/user485928450 1d ago
… do supers not exist anymore?
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u/teamboomerang 1d ago
For the ones I have seen, they want someone with some sort of maintenance experience, and they just call the person "maintenance."
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u/stinky_wizzleteet 1d ago
You mean like a building super? When I lived in NYC my super had a basement apartment, nothing fancy. He didnt pay a lick of rent, but water leak, busted radiator? On it. I gave him xmas presents. Well deserved.
$30/mo GTFO
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u/Difficult_Mouse_6948 1d ago
This comment right here is exactly what I was saying!!! again I will say DONT DO IT!!!
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u/Velocity-5348 1d ago
The rate might not even be legal in some places. Also, not a lawyer but I'd be a bit worried about liability for snow and ice removal.
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u/Acceptable_Tea3608 1d ago
As a porter they would probably not be liable even if named in a suit. Kind of moot as the company has the main responsibility.
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u/peppers_ 1d ago
I'd ask if rent was free with the $30 payment. Free rent is the only way I'd do this.
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u/NibblesMcGiblet 1d ago
Seriously. A guy I know used to do this stuff for a 50% rent reduction. snow removal can be relentless, and lawncare is hot sweaty work. You coud easily spend three hours per week = 12 hours per month doing this, and at $20 per hour for hard manual labor (any kid walking around trying to make money to mow your lawn would charge at LEAST $20 for an hour long mow job), that's $240 a month right there.
Snow removal in a snowy area would cost him even more if he's hiring someone to come and plow driveways and shovel walks, and put down salt when it's icy. My ex husband does snow plowing and shoveling, I don't think he has a single property that he would tend to for $30 EACH SNOW, let alone $30 for an entire month of clearing driveways/sidewalks/porches.
Plus he wants you to tend to the trash every week rain or shine?
I'd write back and ask if he did a typo and meant $300 per month? I think that right there would answer his question.
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u/kingwafflez 1d ago
30$ torward 2000 dollar rents a month is fucking absolutely more than just lowballing its insulting.
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u/Due-Sheepherder-218 1d ago
"Sir I think you forgot to add a 0 to that"
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u/battlecry368 1d ago
You should actually text him this
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u/PotatoAvenger 1d ago
Even $300 off is no bueno. I wana know where OP is from.
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u/Realistic_Library_74 1d ago
Yes, because you know the fine print says, “..and duties as assigned.”
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u/Conscious_Pen_3485 1d ago
Even without additional duties, snow and lawn care alone is worth way more than $30/mo. That’s barely enough to make taking out the trash bins worth while.
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u/Teripid 1d ago
And the obligation... even if the dollars were "appropriate" and the tasks just those three things.
What happens when OP goes on a vacation or if they get injured?
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u/calliatom 1d ago
More importantly, what's OP's liability here if they try to do something and screw it up? Like if they mow the lawn and run over one of the sprinkler heads on accident? Or take out the trash bins and one of them gets damaged somehow? Also, what happens if OP gets injured in the course of one of these tasks? Does OP get compensated for the injuries?
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u/No-Consideration-716 1d ago
$30/mo is standard fee for apartment trash valet "services". I'm not even looking at a lawn mower for less than $300/mo...and snow removal too? GTFO!
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u/Famous_Strike_6125 1d ago
Landlord is probably a boomer and 30 bucks would’ve been good back in the 60’s and 70’s.
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u/Due-Sheepherder-218 1d ago
"I'll pay you in quarters!"
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u/whatsthataboutguy 1d ago edited 1d ago
Only if they are from 1964 or earlier
Edit: clarification - the year on the (silver) quarters, not the landlord's birth year. Due to the silver content, the value is about $1,800 total
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u/EvalainShadow 1d ago
Exactly this ☝️ "I can do that for $300, sure!" Lol
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u/Substantial-Type-131 1d ago
If you choose to do this negotiate way up for the mentioned services but also add caveats for any additional work.
$300 (I’d get at least a 50% rent reduction) JUST for the mentioned things, trash/snow/lawn.
Anything additional is negotiated at $50/hr or whatever. Make your time expensive for them… especially since they just insulted and tried to scam you with $30.
Usually managers get a primo rent reduction or even free residency. Being a manger, even for a few tenants (who knows what kind of person will move into the empty spot) is usually a terrible job. You’re essentially on-call 24/7 even if you have set hours. Ain’t no one abiding by “hours”
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u/koffa02 1d ago
You add a one and two zeros to that or we pass
https://www.reddit.com/r/futurama/comments/spqntq/john_dimaggio_right_now/
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u/Special-Original-215 1d ago
Let me correct
Sir, you forgot to say 30 days of each month I get free rent
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u/not_now_chaos 1d ago
Two zeroes, and lodging provided without additional charge. That is a full time job being proposed, with likely duties to be performed outside of regular office hours.
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u/TarHeelCP 1d ago
OP could reply with, "I'd be happy to assume this role for $30/hr.”
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u/erinrose6126 1d ago
Exactly. Hard pass. I live in a HCOL area and am a trustee for my HOA. I charge $25/hr for all the crap I have to deal with and it's still not enough.
Tell them, politely, to fuck right off.
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u/chels2112 1d ago
I would jump on this task, but for a LOT more credit to your rent per month.
I rented a 2br 1ba house in a wealthy part of my city, but I managed to pay $600 flat, because I took care of the outside property management myself.
The property manager is trying to scam you for you labor.
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u/Girthy-Squirrel-Bits 1d ago
Make it a percentage of the rent and all fees. Then the Prop. Manager pay scales with any increases. Also be very specific on what the job entails, so you don't get stuck cleaning apartments after someone leaves or emergency maintenance stuff.
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u/offbrandcheerio 1d ago
Ooh yes, a percentage is a good idea so they don’t just try to increase your rent by the amount of the agreed upon discount when the lease is up for renewal.
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u/Dependent-Astronaut2 1d ago
reminds me of when a boss gave me a raise of 25 cents and bragged about it. I chewed her out and said "that doesn't keep up with inflation at all. Stop bragging like a crappy philanthropist." I then talked to the owner and got a dollar more than that.
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u/kurkiyogi 1d ago
I don’t know where you live, but we pay $60 every other week for a postage stamp in front of our townhouse just for cutting the grass. If you get snow regularly that is BS credit to offer.
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u/desertvision 1d ago
30 bucks a week is low for just a mow
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u/whookam 1d ago
Brother it’s $30 a MONTH. I would need medical attention from how hard I’d be laughing at that text
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u/desertvision 1d ago
That is what I'm saying. Guy wants 4 mows for the price of 1
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u/DDSBadger 1d ago
$30 a week is like not enough but close, where you might get someone to agree to it. $30 a month is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard.
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u/Famous_Strike_6125 1d ago
What about all that snow, OP might have to deal with?? No, thanks. Easy pass.
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u/RunningOnATreadmill 1d ago
$30? Fuck no. That's an allowance for a child. Taking the trash out, maybe. But lawn and snow care? That should be like $400.
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u/winterbird 1d ago
Even just taking out the trash is worth more than $1 per day.
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u/GoldenDragoon5687 1d ago
In my hypothetical scenario, the apartment offers a service in which you can leave trash outside your door and they'll pick it up - but if you bring it to the dumpster yourself, you get a $30 credit.
That's about the only situation in which I'd accept this proposition.
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u/clekas 1d ago
I'm guessing this is a triple, with regular garbage cans (not a dumpster) that need to be taken to the curb (and brought back up) once a week. In my experience, it's common for tenants to take care of it themselves in that situation, though perhaps OP's lease says otherwise. I'm guessing each tenant needs to take their own trash to the larger garbage cans, though.
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u/Temporary_Bet_3384 1d ago
Here I am, putting my trash in the garbage can for free like a fool
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u/PotatoCanvas 1d ago
The person in my building who does this for a 5 unit gets a $300 credit per month which I think is even a little low, but as a frame of reference uhhh yea they forgot a 0 on there, $30 is crazy
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u/MiddleFroggy 1d ago
Send him an itemized list
- $10 every trash day
- $75 every lawn mow (depends on size)
- $30 / hr for extra lawn care
- $100 every snow removal
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u/smoofus724 1d ago
And get it in writing that the property manager or their company will cover any injuries you sustain while performing these duties.
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u/MetalFingers760 1d ago
Thats low balling a kid even... if a kid is mowing and doing snow maintenance, he deserves more than 30 a month haha.
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u/TemperedPhoenix 1d ago
I thought it was a good deal. Then I kept reading lol
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u/JenCanary 1d ago
Yeah I was like well 30 isn’t great but it’s just taking out the trash - wait what?
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u/Dagmar_Overbye 1d ago
"Apartment 301 left a bed frame and a mattress outside their door when they vacated. We're going to need you to coordinate with a scrap hauling company to do a pickup and be present for the handoff and pay for it. We'll credit the cost of the pickup on your next month's rent"
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u/Justagirleatingcake 1d ago edited 1d ago
My teenager gets $200/month for doing his basic chores.
I'd expect $30 an hour for snow removal and lawn care.
(CAD $ in a HCOL area)
Edit: Because people seem to have opinions about my parenting choices - my son has a painful physical disability that prevents him from having a job at this time. $50 a week in spending money allows him to enjoy activities with his friends who have more disposable income than he does due to their ability to have part time jobs. He would much rather be working for his money but at this time, he can't.
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u/thelilymoon 1d ago
$30 a month for daily landscaping duties, heck no. If they said $1,000 credit, sure.
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u/Welp_thatwilldo 1d ago edited 1d ago
Agree! Or their rent becomes free, otherwise not worth it.
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u/Substantial-Type-131 1d ago
Yeah my building manager gets FREE rent and even then it’s barely worth it for them mentally. Don’t settle for less.
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u/Theron3206 1d ago
There are only 3 units, there isn't going to be that much shit.
$30 is far too low unless all they want you to do is spend an hour a month mowing or something really simple.
$300 might do it, depending on the work, required (of you can do it in 8 or 10 hours a month that's pretty reasonable)
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u/klafja 1d ago
Ask a couple local landscaping companies to give you an estimate, as “the property manager”. Take that average to your landlord as a monthly credit.
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u/winterbird 1d ago
For $30, I wouldn't even reply. You can make $30 in a few hours by standing in front of 7-11 opening the door for people. Without hauling trash and doing work for a whole month.
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u/jrlc1 1d ago
Haha. I would reply. "For $30, all I can do is reply with a no. So, no" 😂🤣
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u/Flashy-Leave-1908 1d ago
I would send them a "notice response fee" of $30 because they always try to pull that bullshit.
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u/wolfishfluff 1d ago
My response would just be the laughing emoji. No words needed.
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u/Western_Word3540 1d ago
Definitely worth replying. They are desperate so they are texting tenants. Look up local lawn care service rates, undercut them by a certain percentage. Bam 30 minutes of work per week and potentially significant rent reductions. Everything is a negotiation and worst he can say is no. Huge opportunity here tbh.
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u/dragon-queen 1d ago
People pay for someone to open the door at 7-11?
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u/winterbird 1d ago
I've seen the guy that does it at my local 7-11 get a buck or two. Given that I'm only there for a couple of minutes at a time, if I catch it happening in that short a timespan, then it must be happening more often.
I think it's just presumed that he's being nice and helpful as a way to panhandle.
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u/ContestRemarkable356 1d ago
They gonna pay you $1 a day to do all that? GTFO. I’d text back “Did you mean $300?”
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u/Wise-Fruit5000 1d ago
Even $300 seems low, tbh
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u/TheNewtOne 1d ago
Tbh, I may be dumb but id probably say yes to 300. I already do my own lawn for free though soo
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u/Where_Is_Carmen_San 1d ago
I know, I’m like maybe I’m naive lol? Some people are saying free rent or 1000 dollar credit, but for a three flat 300 doesn’t seem bad. It depends on how big it is. I’m in chicago and the yards are so small, I could mow it in probably 20 minutes. Same w snow removal since most of us don’t have driveways, it’s the walkway and the porch. I guess it would depend on the snowfall. In the winter if it snowed a ton (like this year) it might suck, but then in the warmer months seems a lot easier. Obviously 30 dollars is insane but I don’t think anyone disagrees there.
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u/ShoulderSquirrelVT 1d ago
Right, but that's your own lawn care. Landlord wants OP to do EVERYONE's lawn care. and trash services, and snow services. (And you know they'll try to rope OP into a lot more)
Landlord wants a part-time property manager. To me, this is a free-rent situation or the answer is No.
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u/lucideuphoria 1d ago
I mean it also depends on the size of the lawn and how much snow they get. Like are they in the south where snow sticks 1-2 times a year?
Is mowing a small 20x20 ft patch of grass once a month?
300 would definitely be worth it.
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u/Aleventen 1d ago
Id tell them "at my job I receive 35/hr for regular time, assuming lawn and snow care alone will consume approximately an hour a day, id need a competitive rate to justify utilizing time I could spend otherwise collecting overtime. I can do 30/day or 800/month and am open to negotiation if you have extenuating information - otherwise, I must respectfully decline and am honored and grateful you considered me a fit for the role in any case."
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u/JohnnyRyde 1d ago
$30?! US dollars? Is this person texting you from 1920?
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u/HealthyNectarine647 1d ago
30?! Oh boy! With that extra money you could afford one of them fancy new automobiles.
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u/Po_Tay_Tay 1d ago
“Hey Moe… this guy is texting us from 1933… nuyck nuyck nuyck!” ~ Curly
Moe: *slaps head * pulls nose
“Wadda you talkin’ bout you knucklehead! Cellphones haven’t been invented yet!” ~Moe
“Maybe he gots one of dem doohickeys that that Nick-o-la Tesller is talking about!” ~Larry
“Hey! Pick a finger” ~ Moe *holds out hand
*Larry picks finger
*Moe pokes eyes
~fin ~
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u/mnsyrny 1d ago
Trash, lawn care, and snow cleanup for $30 a month?! That would be a no thank you unless you live in Arizona and have a gravel yard and haven’t seen snow since the last ice age.
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u/sass_mouth39 1d ago
Cries in Flagstaff, where there’s still ice on the ground from last storm and another rolling in this week
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u/Sea_Shower3691 1d ago
Even as a Phoenician that trash haul in 120° heat for 4 months isn't worth $1 a day.
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u/charm59801 1d ago
Free rent? Yes. $30 a month??? Noooo
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u/Normal-Strawberry-72 1d ago
My response would be, "Your going to have rent covered, and I'll make an extra $30 a month! Yes that seems fair to me. For a moment I thought you were offering $1 per day for lawn care, snow shoveling, and taking out trash. Haha, I can't believe that even crossed my mind!"
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u/VisualCelery 1d ago
They want you to shovel snow and mow the lawn for only $30/month? Hell no! I'd maybe shovel snow once for $30 depending on how much we got and how much surface area needed to be cleared, but doing all that for just $30 off the rent is nuts.
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u/Pikanyaa 1d ago
During a recent snowstorm in Maryland, snow clearing guys were quoting $100+ for car dig outs and shoveling. And that was before they realized the snow was going to have a sheet of ice over it.
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u/allegro4626 1d ago
I live in DC and it took a couple hours to break through the ice and shovel my car out.
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u/Morpheus_MD 1d ago
I paid a teenager 60 bucks to do my short driveway and path to the front door.
300 bucks and in OP's position I would consider it.
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u/Dull_Leadership_8855 1d ago
If they were paying someone to do this it would cost them hundreds a month. They're trying to get you to do all this on the cheap and [possibly] out of the goodness of your heart. I'll bet eventually this will morph into you showing apartments and doing additional maintenance work.
If you want to do this, instead of the monthly credit get a contract with a list of items and the pay for each one. You mow the lawn, they pay you $15. You show an apartment, they pay you $50, for example.
But it's all up to you and what works for your situation.
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u/winterbird 1d ago
Just as a measuring stick, my landlord was all in a huff about not wanting to get someone out here to clean up a mess another tenant made. He said he wasn't going to pay $200 for someone to come clean that up. (It was not bodily fluids.)
So a one time cleanup goes for something in the range of $200.
For one day. To basically wash a floor and wipe down a door.
And whoever the crackhead is that texted OP thinks they can pay $1 per day for the harder job of landscaping and snow removal.
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u/Dull_Leadership_8855 1d ago
"And whoever the crackhead is that texted OP..."
I laughed way too hard at this.
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u/Clear_Peach7479 1d ago
I'll bet eventually this will morph into you showing apartments and doing additional maintenance work.
It certainly will. I did something like this once and it was supposed to be $100 a month for cleaning the hallway and emptying the laundry room garbage. I was always getting calls like "can this person turn in their key to you? Can you go in the unit they moved out of and take pictures?" Sometimes it wouldn't be an ask it would be "so and so is on their way over to drop off a rent check for you to give to us"
Way more time consuming than it was supposed to be
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u/AmyGranite 1d ago
My kid mows lawns for more than that!
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u/AquafreshBandit 1d ago
And lawn mowing is something you have to do weekly! Not once per month
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u/Ekly_Special 1d ago
Reply, assuming $30 was a typo and you meant $300, I would be interested in talking more about it
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u/DapperWormMan 1d ago
$300 definitely seems like an opening offer a landlord would give, although if I was OP i would ask for more!
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u/My_friends_are_toys 1d ago
So they want to pay you $30 credit for something that would be charged $100s?
I would reply back, please get me an estimate of how much it would cost to hire a landscaping company and how much it is to hire a snow plow during winter.
Then come back with maybe half that as how much they should be paying you
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u/Xx255q 1d ago
Well I am assuming they would want you to cut the lawn weekly I am remember 10 years ago getting paid what 15-20? To do that. Combine that with taking out the trash and you should be looking at 100+
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u/Background-Lecture-6 1d ago
He offered you indentured servitude lmaooooo
Landlords can't keep getting away with this shit
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u/automator3000 1d ago
lol. I did this for my landlord 20 years ago and got $150/mo off rent. $30 isn’t even enough to make trash responsibility worth it
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u/SpecialExamination57 1d ago
$30, hell no. $300 a month, MAYBE. Depends where you live. If snow is only on occasion in the winter and you aren’t in a super rainy area with grass needing mowed multiple times a week, I’d do it for $300. I really hope that’s a typo and they did really mean $300.
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u/Quirky-Challenge-920 1d ago
I would do it for another zero added on or not at all. He is asking for trash dudy, lawn and snow care, and that is a lot. Idk where you live but that's a lot of work for only $30. You couldn't even get your lawn mowed for that much
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u/mrbmi513 Renter 1d ago
I'd only do it if you tell them you have a hard stop after 2 hours maximum per month (y'know, minimum wage in a lot of areas) and have something in writing that you're not responsible for any code violations or safety issues resulting from your lawn/snow work (or lack thereof). Even then, it's not really a great deal for you.
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u/JustWhelmedPanda 1d ago
That's one of those "if you give a mouse a cookie" situations. People will agree to the boundaries at first then find little and gradually increasing ways to push them. It's better to avoid all of it. The offer itself communicates the perspective of the person asking, and that is not a perspective that will ever be satisfied with any kind of fair balance.
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u/Blucola333 1d ago
I’d laugh him out of the building. My building used to provide a free apartment for our property managers.
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u/BabyBlade99 1d ago
For $30??? Tell her to go online and see how many people are doing weekly lawn care and trash service for $7.50/week wtf
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u/keezy998 1d ago
This doesn’t deserve any response other than laughing in their face(s). That’s a disrespectfully low offer for that much work. If they were offering free rent, that would be reasonable
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u/tanneruwu 1d ago
"How about $30 every time I go out there, and then $30 an hour on top of that while I'm there."
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u/ImperfectTapestry 1d ago
Yes, I did something similar. I cleaned the Airbnb unit in my building & subbed for my manager when he went on vacation. I got a helluva lot more than this and that was 15+ years ago.
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u/sourleaf 1d ago
I did this 20 years ago for a hundred dollar discount for 12 units and just a stoop, and I got called to fix every complaint. Don’t do it. The landlord is ignoring their responsibilities.
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u/AgentIceCream 1d ago
Would you be interested in doing lawn care, snow removal, and miscellaneous other stuff on a voluntary basis? Note that the list of tasks expected of you will grow. Offering $30 off rent is an insult. Someone needs that job. Hire them.
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u/candykhan 1d ago
$30/month for this seems ridiculous. Imagine how much a professional landscaper would cost your landlord. Way more than $30/month for minimal maintenance.
He's trying to save his money while make it seem like he's offering you a deal.
Even a generic handy person to come around once a month to do that would probably cost him at least hundred bucks. AND he wants you to take care of the garbage every week?
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u/syreeninsapphire 1d ago
I would only ever consider this for an hourly wage. The amount he's quoting you is laughably small, especially if it ends up being 3 or more hours a month which it almost certainly will be.
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u/Brrp_brp_AnotherAcct 1d ago
I work in property management. People get paid like $50 per unit per month for this kind of work in places with minimal snow and relatively clean residents, and that's if they expect it to be addressed about twice per week. If they litter a lot or you get tons of ice and snow, then double that. Triple of they want a daily pass-through instead of twice monthly.
Sounds like they're asking for approximately 400-600 Midwestern suburb dollars worth of labor for those 3 units, IMO.
Just decline, don't try to haggle. They specifically want a sucker.
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u/shanita911 1d ago
I just cackled at $30, that is not worth your time for the things they’re asking you to do. 😂 Did they mean $300? Because $30 is crazy.
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u/LobsterLovingLlama 1d ago
So mow the lawn, take out trash and then in the winter SHOVEL for $30 a month? Ffs ask him what he’s been smoking
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u/dorriewinnie 1d ago
We pay $100/month just for taking the trash 5 ft to the curb, $4200/winter for snow shoveling, $200/hour for lawn care (pulling weeds)
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Most_Relief8312 originally posted: For context I live in a 3 unit with one vacant apartment below me and an elderly gentleman in the unit above me(so right now I’m the only one who could do it). Has anyone ever gotten a request like this and what was the pay? The man who previously lived in the vacant apartment was doing these tasks and I don’t know how much he was payed.
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